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mechanical teeth edition

Robinhood
>Commission free and no minimum to open
http://www.robinhood.com

Interactive Brokers
>Cheapest trading platform for Europeans, very good API, anal registration process. $0.005/share, $1 minimum. Lowest margin interest. Free API access
http://www.interactivebrokers.com

TD Ameritade
>$6.95 commission per trade. No minimum to open. Fantastic data/charting through their free ThinkorSwim service
http://www.tdameritrade.com

Degiro (Cheap broker for Europeans)
>2nd cheapest platform for Europeans, they announced an increase of their commission fees. Very quick registration process
http://www.degiro.eu

Instant news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free in depth charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
http://www.nasdaq.com/extended-trading/premarket-mostactive.aspx
https://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/
https://www.cnbc.com/pre-markets/

Earnings Report Calendars:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

CNBC Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/cnbc-america.html
Fox Business Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/business/fox-business-network-fbn.html
Bloomberg Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

Basic rundown on options:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBAQtjyqNHw [Embed] [Open]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTTzfa4ePE [Embed] [Open]

Suggested books:
https://pastebin.com/jgA5zTuC

Previous thread: >>10960057

>> No.10962190

First for limp Bizkit

>> No.10962193

MBNAB great buy :^)

>> No.10962209
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>>10962190
>First for red day everyday

>> No.10962211
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Im really going for 1k this week, and hopefully stay consistant with it, last week i was short 200$ but labor day kinda fucked shit up

>> No.10962222
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>You're a big HODLer

>For you

>> No.10962239

>>10962222
>UUUU
>2222
checked

>> No.10962241

>>10962159
I went to elementary school with some Asians, they're all quiet and really nice. Good at math and piano too. I like the Japanese ones the best, they wear funny little spectacles and nice suits usually. I couldn't see one of them raping someone.

>> No.10962261

>>10962241
chinese =/= japanese senpai
they literally couldnt be more different

>> No.10962267
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>>10962241
>rape of Nanking
lol
>>10962209
I know that feel

>> No.10962271

>>10962241
Japanese women are my weakness

>> No.10962286
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10962286

the SPY is a buy
Buy the SPY

>> No.10962306

Hypothetically speaking, would it be a bad idea to buy AMZN on margin?

>> No.10962307

Hello sirs kindly tell me money makings stocks
Buy bazinga

>> No.10962313

>>10962241
japanese aren't chinese. Chinese are literally like the heartless peoples of asia.

nips are cool. when I went to japan last summer they were very welcoming and fun. one of the best and funnest business trips I've ever had.

When I went to china 2 years ago they smelled something awful, the air was toxic, they spat and shit all over the place, and were literally trying to give away their kids in the street so they would have better lives.

>> No.10962318
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ENOUGH

>>10962241
The Japanese can be pretty fucking brutal when they need to be. Didn't they shoot at medics and blow up hospital ships in WW2?

>> No.10962329
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10962329

Make the call, reversal to green on SPY and NASDAQ near close.

>> No.10962335

Feels like Emerging Markets are crashing as we speak... My MSCI EM tracker is down nearly 15% from all-time high. My EM stack which I've built up over a year down about 5% total. I should be happy to buy cheap and retire early (since I'll hold long-term anyway) but the red numbers fuck with my mind.

>> No.10962343

>>10962307
AMD if you can buy on sale

>>10962318
imperial japan was a really different time. now most of the guys are really beta and even a guy like me can pull 8's and 9's in japan with a little whiskey in me.

>> No.10962359
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>>10962306
it's like 2% under the ATH and we've been in a securities bubble for almost a decade and it has a P/E ratio of 185.

so it's a great idea! in fact, fuck margin, just go all in on OTM calls

>> No.10962362
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>>10962313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAKa2IDD2Cg
Reminder to everyone.

>> No.10962364

How safe do you think calling MU at 50 by years end is?

Think I'd make money on it, basically? I mean, even if memory prices collapsed by 25% MU is still undervalued.

>> No.10962368

>>10962335
How do you distance yourself from paper gains/losses?

>> No.10962371

>>10962335
>the red numbers fuck with my mind.
they should
EMs are in an absolutely perilous spot desu senpai

>> No.10962393

>>10962364
The risk reward isnt there, theres trump tariffs, a conference tomorrow and earnings that could all go sour

>> No.10962403

>>10962318
Im bothered by how long it took just get back to 50s now its selling off again. Meanwhile fucking weed stocks and amd have pumped up for no reason its so fucking stupid. There really is no strategy other than buying stupid apple and amazon. Meanwhile my facebook shares are getting raped by boomers on capital hill.

I think a balanced portfolio can kiss my ass there really is no justice the only way to really get returns is doing some aggressive trading while things get pumped. Buy and holding is for suckers

>> No.10962406

>>10962364
>MU is still undervalued
why?

>> No.10962408

yall ready for a bulltrap on CGC?
if i can get back below my initial cost on my putss im buying moar

>> No.10962416

>>10962371
I got nearly $10K in an EM ETF which I intend to hold for 20-30 years or more. I know I should not be worried since returns are pretty much guaranteed to be good over this long of a time period. It doesn't affect my decision-making, but still it feels bad to see the red numbers.

>> No.10962423

just bought the fuckin' dip on SGMO, how tarded am I? I plan on holding for at least a year

>> No.10962445

>>10962408
>not buying more right now

>> No.10962449
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RAD

>> No.10962462

>>10962362
China ks one of those places I'd like to visit as an American. I'm not afraid of chinks because I'm a 6'1" bearded Midwestern man, and it would feel nice to walk down the street towering over everyone.

>> No.10962463

I was the autist that bought TLRY at the top. It just surged by like 10$. I'm gucci

>> No.10962466

Whew what day @_@

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>>10962416
>Longing third world shit holes
The only country you should invest in is the US of A you filthy commie.

>> No.10962477
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Blackrock to 500

>> No.10962480

>>10962466
Please explain

>> No.10962490

>>10962449
How long till moon mission

>> No.10962493

>>10962469
I want to buy you a beer

>> No.10962498

>>10962423
The real catalyst on SGMO is their hemophilia gene therapy
The other stuff are icing on the cake

Lord Shkreli likes initially this stock for that

>> No.10962504

PNE3 is a good stock,
It went up a lot lately. Maybe more upside. maybe not.

>> No.10962506

I am officially all in on AMD puts. Holding 25 contracts that break even at $25, and 5 more that break at $27

>> No.10962510
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The DOGS of the DOW
Bark at the moon

>> No.10962512

>>10962416
>hold for 20-30 years or more
then youll be fine
but wew, those numbers have a HIGH likelihood of getting FAR more red before this is all said and done imo
dollar is pulling back today and still most of the currencies are seeing no relief. i smell continued trouble for EMs for as long as FED keeps tightening

>>10962445
meh i dont ever avg up w long options positions senpai. not worth the risk imo

>> No.10962519

>>10962406
It's current P/E valuation is 5.0. NASDAQ is trading at like 23 right now and it's average is somewhere around 15.

There's other metrics I could point out that show MU is undervalued, too. I've legitimately no idea why it's trading as low as it is.

>> No.10962543

>>10962519
The market is deemed as cyclical. The next downturn is priced into today's price. Just like the next upturn will be priced into that price.

>> No.10962546

>>10962506
AMD price target is 40 dollars before the collapse, you're gonna get bogged

>> No.10962560

>>10962519
call me retarded or whatever, but i think P/E is an absolutely useless metric for tech. its literally never been effective in the last decade for valuing tech

>> No.10962575

>>10962490
What will it climb to?

>> No.10962593

>>10962519
low PE is a bad thing
it means there is something wrong with the fundamentals and smart large specs dont want it

>> No.10962610

>>10962543
>Market deemed cyclical
>Demand for memory growing exponentially

Pick one, protip analysts are usually wrong.

>> No.10962633

>>10962575
Another anon said it'll jump up 5% before earnings report later this month

>> No.10962637

>>10962593
intel has low P/E but it's not going to die, it has plenty of aces.

>> No.10962646

>>10962593
yea
this
if the low P/E was a good thing, then some analyst wouldve spotted it ages ago and bought it up. but they havent. in fact theyve dumped it. HARD

>> No.10962672

>>10962637
the difference is that Intel is on the DOW and actually a safe stock while MU is just another semiconductor stock...

>> No.10962683

oils about to get bogged again overnight

>> No.10962706
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10962706

Who here /buyingEveryAMRSdip/

>> No.10962713

>>10962546
$24 correction is not a collapse. It will be the dip before the slow climb to $40.

>> No.10962727

>>10962672
i see yes. Carry on.

Let's look at Qualcomm, not the biggest P/E either, nasdaq listed, seems not to be affected, infact i say it's a good buy.

>> No.10962736

>>10962706
It better, this is my first call

>> No.10962751

Fuck you, mgm

>> No.10962768
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DUDE

>> No.10962783

>>10962449
How do I know theyre not just going to die?

>> No.10962801

>>10962768
went from down 5k to up 5k feelsgreat

>> No.10962804

intradasting
my CGC puts are actually rising in price as the stock rises. IV is getting HOT

>>10962783
you dont

>> No.10962805

>>10962768
up 311.00% this year. shorting this bubble too.

>> No.10962856

>>10962706
still too high desu
I would buy at low 8/hi 7

>> No.10962861
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10962861

>>10962768
yes that was quite exciting, i dont think its over yet though
I also hit my 1k goal for the week because of this >>10962211

>> No.10962890

>>10962768
Too late to FOMO in?

>> No.10962910

>>10962890
Nah , I been fiddling with the stock since was like 20 bux,
The reason for its growth is Beverage companies are pumping mad volume into it.

you can gain alot just be cautious.

>> No.10962926
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THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>> No.10962931

>>10962910
What’s the eoy price looking like?

>> No.10962932

>>10962890
yes

>> No.10962986

>robinhood will soon be rolling out candlestick charts with volume bars
Took them long enough. The lack of volume bars in RH was my biggest gripe. Fingers crossed they implement a landscape chart view and ability to zoom in and out. Naturally next comes studies. With options and now non-US equities RH is getting pretty good these days desu

>> No.10963018

>>10962931
By the end of the year we will be trading Moon rocks cause thats exactly where we are headed.

>> No.10963025

>>10962469
Can you show me proof that USA outperforms MSCI EM over 20-30 year time periods?

>> No.10963033

>>10962986
OTC and other markets and I'll get rid of my IB account

>> No.10963035
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>>10963025

>> No.10963047
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>>10963025
imao
are you serious?

>> No.10963060

How do I into dividens?

>> No.10963068

>>10963025
nigga is you serious?

>> No.10963075
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>>10963025
unfortunately the only EM ETF i have hasnt been around that long, but it seems that, barring US financial crisis, the US will tend to outperform EMs

>> No.10963082

>>10962768
Bro...

>> No.10963090

>>10962890
Anytime a stock has already pumped 15+ percent, you can bet your sorry ass its (usually) too late

>> No.10963111

>>10963090
/laughsinAMD/

>> No.10963147

>>10962986
>Robinhood is finally a real broker
Now the boomers can't laugh at us anymore. Good to see they're putting our losses to good use.

>> No.10963157

There too many people trading SPX & NDX
algos are using traders during day as some sort of liquidity makers

>> No.10963177
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>>10963157
>reluctant kneepad girl

>> No.10963200

$SENS I tried to tell you guys to get in, hopefully some of you listened

>> No.10963246
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ALL MY AUGUST GAINS GONE AFTER TWO DAYS OF SEPTEMBER

>> No.10963261

>>10963246
down 2 months of wagekek salary in 2 days.

>> No.10963284

>>10963157
Heckies!

>> No.10963294
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>>10962162
G- GERN is going back up right guys?

>> No.10963362
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Chink stocks are so massively fucked imao

>> No.10963368

Am I the only one in the green? Up 2% thanks to selling premarket and buying the dip.

>> No.10963384

>>10963368
I've been all over the place man, was green for 5 minutes in pre-market then dropped like a rock once the market opened

>> No.10963388

>>10963368
up 0.4% based food

>> No.10963391
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ALT, time is running out anon. When they announce they are being bought by Novartis it will be too late.

>> No.10963397
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amazon WILL close under 2000 today

>> No.10963467
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.10963484

>>10962211
Looking good anon, if you keep that up you'll be comfy in no time

>> No.10963518

>>10962706
Damn that's really good. What are your holdings right now?

>> No.10963521
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who here /stoppedbuying/ three weeks ago and has been slowly taking money off the table and is now ready to /rideitout/ with the value stocks left in their account?

>> No.10963535

Hey it's not so bad /smg/
At least we're not holding crypto
I think binance just got hacked

>> No.10963540
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Anyone else see SLV gapping up a lil bit tomorrow?

>> No.10963555

is this dip done?

I want to buy some more but are we still collapsing for a while?

>> No.10963565

>>10962986
If they eventually add futures and commodities then it'll be up at the top with the big boys

>> No.10963584

>>10963261
damn how much do you make a month?

>> No.10963593

>>10963555
checked

and if you continue to put the same amount of money monthly into the market, regardless of it its going up or down, you're going to come out on top (as long as you pick good companies, etfs, mutual funds, etc. and not memes)

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>he thinks the dip is done

>> No.10963669

>>10963593
I'd be buying more QQQ/SPY and some 2x leveraged ETFs.

Blue chips seem like a meme I dont have enough money to drop 5 figures into MSFT

>> No.10963683
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10963683

AMZN UNDER 2000

SMALL SPEC'S REVENGE

GET FUCKED NICOPOSTER

>> No.10963744

Why is NLST pumping and should I dump now? Average .105

>> No.10963769

Applied materials or Lam?

Both have the same pattern on the charts

>> No.10963810
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10963810

its 3 o'clock

nobody is coming to save you today bulls

prepare your angus

>> No.10963820

>>10963284
Omgies!
>>10963177
Me seriously!
Things no moving right!
Dump incoming!

>> No.10963826

>>10963810
Bitch please, this is power hour. Get rekt.

>> No.10963842

>>10963669
I just put in $1000 into my accounts per month

$500 auto invested into my mutual funds and Roth IRA

$500 auto into my brokerage account. Sometimes I add more (just added an extra $100 today). then i buy when I feel like it.

Bluechips make up about 90% of my portfolio. (KO, AAPL, MSFT, JNJ, PG, T, VZ, V, IBM, LOW, etc).

Its a tried and true strategy. Sometimes I beat the market, some times it beats me, sometimes we tie. I know I could SPY it and forget about it, but that's what my mutual fund is for. I like picking stocks I like and seeing how I do. I'm going to inherit like 3 million dollars anyway so its not like I really NEED to invest most my money, I just like being self sufficient.

>> No.10963844
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>>10963826
its not too late to join the dark side

feel the power of the big short

>> No.10963870
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SOTP FUICKING SLELGIN1!!!!!!!1

>> No.10963888

>>10963844
It's coming but it's not now.

>> No.10963892

>>10963870
Stop buying!

>> No.10963904

>>10963870
Maybe you should sell too

>> No.10963921

>>10963842
How are you 90% bluechips if you are adding in 50% into mutual funds?

Your plan is basically what I want to do too, tight now im about 60% QQQ/SPY and 40% leveraged ETFs and a few blue chips, just V and MSFT.

>> No.10963943

>>10963921
sorry, 90% bluechips in my divvy stock portfolio

no idea whats in all my mutual funds, a lot of amazon, apple, Facebook, home depot and lord knows what else

>> No.10963971

what do you guys think would be the next meme after the weed stocks?

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>>10963025
can you show proof that is doesnt?
protip: all world stocks - usa stocks are -0.8% for the past ten years, also pic related (USA was only 45ish % of the worlds stock market capital in 2008)

>> No.10964010

Took off for a couple weeks. Is anyone still defending Musk?

>> No.10964011

>>10963971
nootropics

>> No.10964020

>>10963842
>I'm going to inherit like 3 million dollars anyway
No offense but you just discredited yourself on giving investment advice. You have zero stake.

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HAHA WOW ITS ALMOST LIKE THE MID DAY RALLY ON LOW VOLUME WAS FAKE AND GAY

>> No.10964037

A red day is long due since we've had a pretty good mini-run now. I just hope this doesn't trigger the start of a bear market, its much easier to make money in a bull market.

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>>10963683
>implying a man who holds almost entirely puts would be long tech bubble shit

>> No.10964057

>>10964010
He's doubled down on his baseless pedo insults towards that cave diver lol, he's a lunatic
>>10964011
Nicotine is the greatest nootropic of them all, invest in XXII

>> No.10964069

>>10963996
Tried and couldn't find data going back enough. Basic theory says more diversification means more returns for equal risk or less risk for equal returns. Therefore it must be that World > US over long-term. Not sure about EM vs. US (again, over long-term) which is why I asked. Past 10 years US has outperformed indeed, which could mean that ex-US is undervalued currently. Also, 10 years is not sufficiently long-term for me personally.

>> No.10964078

>>10963294
Watch it goes up $5 next week.

>> No.10964090

>>10963810
>daytrading
Stop playing checkers

>> No.10964113

People who are bitching about losses are too heavily weighted in large cap tech

>> No.10964124
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reminder AMZN was at 1500 just 4 months ago

reminder the way down is much faster than the way up

reminder this is the start of the small spec's revenge

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>when you're up 20% for the year

>> No.10964158

>>10964124
I will short Amazon after a greater tech and stock market crash begins. Until then I'm staying away.

>> No.10964165

>>10964158
at what price will you short AMZN

>> No.10964181

>>10964069
yeah and freshman physics says that air resistance doesn't matter, but if you design a plane or even a car with that in your head you'll fail. in practice "emerging markets" aren't a thing and will continue to not be a thing

>> No.10964197

>>10964069
to expand on >>10964181 read this:
https://www.epsilontheory.com/it-was-barzini-all-along/

>> No.10964199

>>10964057
>Nicotine is the greatest nootropic of them all, invest in XXII

Radient Technologies is barking up that tree as well.

>> No.10964211

>>10964165
I dont care about the price, I care more about the activity on the chart and on the nasdaq chart as a whole. When spy throws a big sell signal like busting a weekly support, its time to short.

>> No.10964219
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>>10964069
>Also, 10 years is not sufficiently long-term for me personally.
ill concede to that, since im too lazy to look back any more

but if you want to own a diverse array of stocks from the worlds markets, about 50% of those stocks are going to be american stocks

its a rigged game, you cant have diverse world stocks without including american stocks
owning stocks from every market in the world besides the US means you handicap yourself from 50% of the worlds stocks, so is it truly considered diverse then? can you be diverse without half of the worlds stocks?

basic theory does say that diversification means less risk, but diversification without american stocks is not true "diversity"

if youre losing the game do you complain about the rules? no, you get good, whatever it takes

world is not > US in the long term, since half of the world IS the US (as far as stock markets is concerned)

either play by the rules, or get reckd scrub

>>10964113
doesnt make their bitching any less valid

>>10964124
by that logic it could be up to $3k a share in 6 months too
volatility is not a one way street
but go ahead and stay salty that you didnt buy in sooner

and friendly reminder that if AMZN ever splits their stocks, they will see a 10% or more bump in one day, because small specs will rush to buy in
if they 10:1 split at $2000 would mean those shares worth $200 a piece would easily rise $50 within a week, vastly expanding AMZN's market cap

>> No.10964225

>>10964069
That may be true if you consider long term = 2000+ years.

In my opinion, over the next 50 years and between:

1. Holding 33% Portugal, 33% Greece, 33% USA.

2. Holding 100% USA,

Option 2 has both less risk and higher expected return, while being less diversified.

>> No.10964235

How do you guys generate trading ideas? I'm new to this whole thing, and I'm struggling to figure out where to look and what to look for in order to generate profitable trading ideas

>> No.10964244

>>10964235
mostly from my gut

>> No.10964253

>>10964225
>owning grease

>> No.10964257

>>10964219
>but if you want to own a diverse array of stocks from the worlds markets, about 50% of those stocks are going to be american stocks
Majority of my money (~50%) is in MSCI World which is indeed about 50-60% US. I have about 40% in EM since I wanted to increase risk since I've just started building my retirement fund - it must be high risk currently. In addition, in MSCI world there's only about 14 countries incuded if I remember correctly, which is not really 'world' to me.

>> No.10964281

>>10964253
Greece will rule Turkey in 2412. Prove me wrong

>> No.10964286

>tfw gotta go to wageslave now
see yall tomorrow

>> No.10964291

>>10964257
>>10964219
>its a rigged game, you cant have diverse world stocks without including american stocks

You must have misunderstood, I am not excluding US from my portfolio. Just saying that world (including US) must have higher risk-adjusted returns over long-term than US alone.

>> No.10964295

Should I secure my amd profits? Will it drop tomorrow?

>> No.10964298

>>10964257
Shorting turkey, china, and Africa was very profitable for me, shorting Australia probably will be as well. The fact is that other markets aren't riskier they are just lower performing. To be high risk they need to actually have a possibility of high return. Which has yet to ever happen.

>> No.10964305

>>10964225
>1. Holding 33% Portugal, 33% Greece, 33% USA.
Yeah, no. I'm building a retirement fund here and that would only work if I'd be willing to retire in Greece.

>> No.10964311

guys wtf is going on with GME Gamestop, that is one hell of a candle.

>> No.10964313

>>10962408
weed stocks are still the hot meme and hype. you can still ride bubble for longer.

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>>10964295
how many times to I have to tell you that tech is in a huge fucking bubble that is literally bursting in front of our eyes today and yes you should fucking sell everything before your face gets ripped off

god damn

>> No.10964326

>>10964286
Take care fren.

>> No.10964331

>>10964311
rumors of a buyout

>> No.10964336

>>10964291
>Just saying that world (including US) must have higher risk-adjusted returns over long-term than US alone.
you hypothesize this, however this has not been true for a decade and there is no evidence to suggest that it will become true in the future

if you are looking for higher risk in a portfolio have you considered a leveraged fund like DXSLX? (or DXRLX if you prefer that index)

>> No.10964341

>>10964316
We’re gonna reach a new paradigm.

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>>10962890

Okay it's time to talk about fomo, why it's dumb, why chasing stocks is dangerous, and why you shouldn't even if it turns out that by declining to fomo buy you missed out on 25%+ gains.

The problem is statistical risk/reward ratio + current share holder sentiment. The faster a stock rises the less support is built on the way up; this is called a gap. A gap occurs on a rising stock when the price rose so fast, the amount of people holding at any given price between previous support level and resistance is slim and insufficient to hold up to sell pressure when sell pressure builds. The result is a price that falls just as fast as it rose, ie, very high risk. If majority of recent shareholders bought in 25-50-100% or whatever below where the price is currently trading, all of those people are going to be very nervous and twitchy about taking profits the instant a little bit of sell pressure appears. Essentially, when you FOMO you are relying on a pack of very nervous squirrels to hold the inflated price up. One loud noise and the whole group scatters leaving you holding the bag if you were't quick enough to sell.

So don't fomo. Successful trading isn't about maxing out moon shots. It's about making consistent gains week after week after month after year. Consistent strategy maintains gains and keeps losses to minimum.

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10964365

>>10964341
>gonna

this is the meme chart of parabolic gains

good returns will come to you but only if you go short and type "I'm ready for the big one" in this thread

>> No.10964399

Are there any good paper trading apps that work with options? The couple I've tried so far only have buying and selling.

>> No.10964431

>>10964365
unironically new paradigm

>> No.10964449

>>10964311
Pump and dump from buyout rumors

>> No.10964451

Someone recommend a trade that can be put on, right now, and will be profitable in the next 4 weeks
>inb4 fuck you dyor
I am, I'm just interested in biz's ideas

>> No.10964459

>>10964451
$ROPE

>> No.10964472

>>10964451
LCI.

>> No.10964474

>>10964451

You can pay off a good set of kneepads within a week of sucking.

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>>10964451
buy TGTX for phase 3 data readout before "end of summer"

the data will be good i fucking believe it
the stock is hated on and overshorted
the squeeze will be beautiful

>> No.10964479

>>10964451
Shorting GameStop and UnderArmor.

>> No.10964482

>>10964336
You can't read risk-adjusted returns from the 10 year graph. Unfortunately, a quick google search does not give me any data on US vs World risk-adjusted returns.

>> No.10964516

>>10964475
>tfw my house isn’t much bigger but has a better layout
It’s incredibly comfy desu

>> No.10964534

>>10964313
lol
no

>> No.10964541

>>10964482
You are aware that "risk" is measured in variance, rigth? It's not rocket science to compute it

>> No.10964544

I bought my first boomer stocks this week and last week on robinhood and I'm holding them to the grave

now how do I open my first short?

>> No.10964570

>>10964544
Go to Robinhood find ewa buy a 21dollar put for the 21st probably profit.

>> No.10964579

>>10964534
everyone and their mothers are buying weed stocks.

>> No.10964591

>>10964544
RH doesn't let you short directly but you can buy put options instead which is usually a better idea anyway

>> No.10964597

>>10964544
robinhood doesnt allow short selling

so you can either do it with options (buying puts or selling calls)

or you can find a real broker

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>>10963035
>>10963047
>>10963068
>>10963075
>>10963996
Take a moment to process pic related. Next decade might just be the decade for rest of world to outperform US equities.

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10964614

Ding ding ding! how did everyone do today? I'm up 1.04%, based smuck!

>> No.10964615

>>10964570
I don't have options set up on my RH. I have a Merrill Edge account I was thinking I might fund that and use it

>> No.10964622

>>10964479
get on the gamestop buyout meme train while its hot

>> No.10964634
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>tfw AMZN closed below 2000

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>>10964614
1.25%

>> No.10964645

>>10964614
+14% for day, +4% total

>> No.10964649

>>10964613
sauce

>> No.10964652

>>10964614
I want to fucking kill myself, if I don't come close to breaking even on my SPY calls by Friday I'm going to nuke my account and pay off my car

>> No.10964655

>>10964336
>you hypothesize this, however this has not been true for a decade and there is no evidence to suggest that it will become true in the future
Found it: https://www.theatlantic.com/sponsored/fidelity-2016/five-myths-of-international-investing/1046/

>In combination with U.S. stocks, international exposure can actually lower risk in a stock portfolio. Over the past 65 years, a globally balanced hypothetical portfolio of 70% U.S./30% international stocks has produced better risk-adjusted returns (Sharpe ratio)1 and lower volatility (standard deviation) than an all-U.S. portfolio (see chart below, left).

>> No.10964657

>>10964613
why, though? what is your actual thesis here, what's the story that will do this? just reversion to mean, or do you have something more than that?

for that matter what's with "international" anyway? in the 80s, "international" didn't outperform the US, Japan did specifically. the Chinese market and the German market and the South African market and the Nigerian market are all different things.

>> No.10964659

>>10964614
I'm down 2% but it's my fault for longing chinaman memes.

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10964661

Man, this shit is tiring. It feels like everything I buy goes bad. Maybe I should just start selling drugs. This is hopeless. I need a hug.

>> No.10964668

>>10964613
It's not that easy. The late 80s EM bullrun is basically just Japan. The early 00s EM bullrun was basically just China. Now look ahead to 2020, who do you think will be the next Japan or China?

>> No.10964669

>>10964655
you are literally citing an advertisement as your source

>> No.10964672

>>10964652
Are you still holding your EZA puts Comfy?

>> No.10964677

>>10964614
up 1.03%, based KO and JNJ

>> No.10964685

just registered degiro and sent 45e, now waiting for the money to go in the account.
what am i in for?

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10964687

>>10964614

-1.5% on the day. Good trading day for me. I hit some nice lows for cost averaging current positions that then went on to rise a couple points from my entry. There is a biopharma meme I'm trading called Bellus Health Inc. that is doing very nicely. It's not a weed stock so I haven't mentioned it in the usual weed update posts. They have some med in early clinicals for chronic cough.

>> No.10964690

>>10964668
superpooer by 2020

>> No.10964702

>>10964668
India, good sir we have many streets for shitting very good much business here

>> No.10964707

>>10964541
Ok, go ahead lol. It's past 22:00 in my timezone and I've wageslaved pretty hard today so not really feeling like computing.
Rather, see >>10964655

>> No.10964713

>>10964668
maybe India ?

But I think EM outperforms just because there are plenty of USD floating around (=moar global trade)

I don't think that is the path of Emperor Trump

Maybe the next shithole bullrun will have something to do with the chinks and the small countries under its sphere of influence

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10964719

me was scared pig today
scaling up am HARD

only took safe scalps >_> for 100% of me trades today if just would have held longer would made bank aghhhhh!

anyways confirmed dump last min buys were WEAK

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10964724

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1037369707110772736

thank you for standing up to bezos

bernie is the hero we need right now

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>>10964661
/hug
just remember entries are not important its your exits

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10964738

Had a pretty good day today. Should be even better tomorrow

>> No.10964743

>>10964719
Just pretend you have less money
The only thing costing you money is your own fear, assuming you usually made money before you came upon more

>> No.10964747

>>10964738
bruh wtf happened to your fonts

>> No.10964748

>>10964736
And I panic sold my FB after it nosedived today. And I'm still sitting on 100 shares of DBX which is also shitting the bed. Fucking nothing works. I'm down 2% today alone.

>> No.10964750

>>10964020
i have approximately 300K of my own stake in the market right now. pretty sure that's a significant amount. and i can't count on inheritance, so I invest as if its never coming. Just like I don't count my work 401K in my consideration of yearly investments (when it usually maxes out), that way its a forces me to live within my means, keep low-no debt, and save/invest as much as possible

>> No.10964759

>>10964747
He's a photoshop anon from a week ago, just carry on

>> No.10964761

>>10964747
what you mean?

>> No.10964770

>>10964713
ever worked with real pajeets?

>> No.10964775

>>10964657
>why, though? what is your actual thesis here, what's the story that will do this? just reversion to mean, or do you have something more than that?

In a 40+ year time period, I don't see structural outperformance of US stocks over international stocks. I don't see why this should be expected for the coming decades.

>>10964649
https://www.theatlantic.com/sponsored/fidelity-2016/five-myths-of-international-investing/1046/

>>10964669
> you are literally citing an advertisement as your source
Facts are facts though

>> No.10964781

>>10964748
Go all cash for now and do some reflection. Read some investing books like Trading for a Living and The Disciplined Trader

>> No.10964784

>>10964748
> Panic selling with 2% loss

Stop investing in stocks

>> No.10964785

>>10964724
commies and socialists deserve to be hanged from a helicopter

>> No.10964791

>>10964713
>But I think EM outperforms just because there are plenty of USD floating around (=moar global trade)
This is only true for foreign-debt fueled markets, like Turkey. Both Japan and China's success are down from their export powerhouse, and ironically the downfall of Japan was also due to its export reliant economy, and China will probably follow suit very soon.
As far as I know, India's economy does not rely that much on dollar denominated debt. So the US QT shouldn't have a huge long term impact. However their export economy has also been patchy, which at least goes part way to explain the lack of growth you would expect from a booming popn.

>> No.10964800

>>10964759
Okay I'm curious now, what's shopped about it?

For the record right I've got puts on SPY, LABU, FB, and ABMD.

>> No.10964801

>>10964781
>>10964784
I'm gonna invest in a gun and fucking shoot myself.

>> No.10964802

>>10964775
again you are linking to a mother fucking advertisement, are you actually retarded?

>> No.10964821

>>10964801
Please don't. Some of the best tradersbdidnoretty bad themselves early on. Just have to soldier on and study.

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>>10964225
>Option 2 has both less risk and higher expected return, while being less diversified.
option 2 is more risk on paper, and more diverse

youre failing to clearly state that USA risk<POR or GRE risk, which just so happens to be true for the past 100 or so years
but you cant know if that will remain true in the future (although its a bet I'd be willing to make)

and depending on your capital, option 1 could be less diverse (since POR and GRE dont make up nearly the same portion of the worlds markets as the US does)

>>10964291
>You must have misunderstood, I am not excluding US from my portfolio.
ah, my mistake indeed, then its not a bad strategy

>Just saying that world (including US) must have higher risk-adjusted returns over long-term than US alone.
no, there is no must be, you dont know the future
it could be, but the odds of the current probability curve for the future wouldnt make that the median outcome

if every country on earth gets wiped out besides the US in WW3, then the worlds markets would be worth nothing, and no matter how bad US would be, they would give better returns just because they still exist (the opposite could happen too of course)
the world has a higher potential in theory to outperform, but yoou cant know that it does outperform, and past and current data does not indicate that it will (or that that is a better probability to happen anyways)

>> No.10964837

>>10964668
Could be India (not joking), China (again), pretty much literally all of EM through Chinese investments or Europe. It's pretty to hard to look 10+ years in the future which is the entire point for me to invest in MSCI World and EM.

>> No.10964849

>>10964748
>investing with emotion
you can't do that anon. also, its only money, you can always make more.

>> No.10964857

>>10964821
And I could have sold just three weeks ago and been up a huge amount. But no, I just had to fucking hold on to them for god knows what reason.

>> No.10964866

Anyone know what happened to Icahn Enterprises (IEP)? It dropped like 15% the past couple days.

>> No.10964873

>>10964849
I don't normally panic sell. I bought FB after it got rekt for like 20% in one day. I figured it would go back up. And it did, but I held on to it and then it just got ass raped over the past few weeks. Every single day has been red or just barely green.

>> No.10964876

>>10964849
This

>> No.10964884
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>>10964827
As if they could even touch daddy Bezos

>> No.10964892

>>10964873
Well the consolation is that FB will probably stay in a decline for a little bit at least so there's money to be made on puts

>> No.10964897

>>10964802
Bro, source for that chart is Factset.

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>>10964614
Ahem
+0.25% today

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>>10964884
ahem

this is happening now >>10964724

Bezos about to get REGULATED

>> No.10964935

>>10964837
I think India is probably the most likely candidate right now, but I confess I don't know enough about pajeets to really understand the development of their economy and whether its likely to boom in the near future. Never did understand why their exports are poor despite cheap labour.

China IMO has had their moment in the sun. It's showing all the signs of an overheated economy. Slowing growth, skyhigh property prices, wages picking up but spending isn't due to aforementioned property prices. But unlikely Japan I don't think the chink government will let a total crash happen like Japan did, instead it will be a decades long slow deflation. Either way growth is basically dead in the water.

Europe has long been a lost cause, the more recent political uncertainties clearly did not help.

>> No.10964938

>>10964614
14% today yeet

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>>10963683
Despite it being a red day for the spx, It still feels like Bulls won
So bulls won

>> No.10964951

Anyone got any stocks to recommend?

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>>10964939

YOU SMUG CUNT

ILL FRY YOU FOR THIS

RED DAY TOMORROW BITCH COUNT ON IT

>> No.10964953

>>10964836
>you dont know the future
That's pretty much the entire point to be as diversified as possible. By investing in the whole world, I'll always be right (although just a little bit). Most people here put their eggs in 1 basket and they'll either be very right or very wrong which is not how you want to go about saving for retirement.

>> No.10964966

>>10964475
That's actually nuts, the doctor leading this study was one if my brother's teachers during med school... It might be worth asking my bro to drop him an email asking how it's going.
What makes you so confident that the data report will be positive?

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>>10964365
you arnt seeing how their potential customer market keeps rising in value aswell
when they started, they were just a company that traded textbooks, so it only competed in the textbook market, their maximum profits possible was only what people are willing to spend on books
now they have a piece of just about every market, besides aerospace, automotive, other heavy industry, finance, healthcare, and insurance in general.

their potential markets have been exponentially rising at a similar rate to their companies value, and their revinue has been exponentially rising while their operating cost has been quite linear. thats why they are such a scary company to other businesses. they have enough capital to destroy most businesses if they want too, since they can use money from another market segment and run at a loss in that department for decades, while the company overall will not be operating at a loss
none of their competitors in any of their markets has the capital to operate at a loss for nearly as long as they do

while they are probably reaching a limit to their maximum value at some point, they are not the severely overrated bubble that some people think they are, they are not going to be sub $1000 a share unless they start selling bits and pieces of their company away, like GE did

>> No.10964983

NASA just called and offered me a job. They said I can't bring any rocks back with me though
NLST
L
S
To the moon!

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>>10964613
>Take a moment to process pic related. Next decade might just be the decade for rest of world to outperform US equities.
it "might" not be too
you cant know without a magical crystal ball that sees into the future (or more specifically, your future)

>> No.10964991

>>10964951
MU, ABMD, WIX, and FB look like real winners if you're able to place puts on them

>> No.10965003

>>10964770
Surely no worse than working with chinks
I would say: same shit, different colors

>>10964791
EMs are characterized by their sweat-shop and commodity based economy
Even without debts, they get growth mainly because they get USD for their shit

I stand on my opinion that EM outperforms thanks to an abundance of USD

But I agree with you the EM to be in when things settle down are those with little external debts labeled in USD... but I also think things won't be like before with Emperor Trump in charge

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>>10964966
I happen to know someone who was in the clinical test 1-2 years ago and his lymphoma was basically cured 100% progression free, he hasnt been taking the drug for a year now at least

also i read tweets like this one

>> No.10965022

>>10964988
>you cant know without a magical crystal ball that sees into the future
Yeah, I'm trying to make a point here to invest in MSCI World (incl. US) and you're helping me.
If US outperforms, I'm happy since MSCI World is 50-60% US. If not, I'm also happy since 40-50% is not US.

>> No.10965032

>>10964966
if you are able to seriously get in touch with a doctor and ask him this PLEASE post here and let me know about it

i would greatly appreciate it thanks

>> No.10965035

>>10964935
The problem with India is every male thinks himself a prince and a genius even the most cross eyed street shitter. The fraud and scams are just as bad as in China but the nepotism is worse. India and it's people get by by thinking they are the best thing ever when they can barely match 40 years ago, and don't get me started on the India tech circle jerk. I'll take the fucking black kid over a Indian man for IT any day.

>> No.10965039

>>10964475
That looks incredibly comfy

>> No.10965046

>>10964924
Hahhahahahahahhahaha
You think a republican controlled government will pass anything that raises taxes on business owners???? Especially to pay for social service programs! What country do you live in? This is red blooded America, not some shitstain socialist immigrant rape camp

>> No.10965054

>>10964975
>yfw they streamline and synergize and there profits go through the room

AMZN is AMaZiNg

>> No.10965061

Is AMZN worth buying?

>> No.10965062
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>>10965022
yes sir buy (or sell) all your Emerging market etfs through Ishares
Ishares by Blackrock, helping the world grow

>> No.10965063

>>10964475
>Therapeutics
>biotech
Sign me up

>> No.10965076

>>10964935
>Never did understand why their exports are poor despite cheap labour.

Because the chinks are undercutting them. In fact they are undercutting everybody
Many industries in scam chinkland are more or less openly subsidized
And the chinks literally suck the nigger cocks to prime access to ressources

I know the ChinkCom is making a lot of propaganda shit on their homemade electric vehicules, because you know, this is the future, they are hi-tech as fuck and that creates jobs for the people in the countryside.
But with the tarde war and the end of the credit cycle, they won't be able to sell
It is a bubble waiting to burst imo
A textbook malinvestment example

>> No.10965075

>>10965046

republicans are not a monolithic identity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7CJpUO-cqE

>> No.10965081

>>10964235
I use a site called Simply Wall Street to look up good companies (undervalued, growth, etc) combined with some TA for when to buy and sell.

If you're halfway decent with TA and have emotional discipline you'll do well

>> No.10965093

>>10965061
Yes, 1 trillion marketcap is the new support
Buy buy buy!

>> No.10965114

>>10965003
Maybe, but hard to call what Trump will do. Worth remembering he wants a weak USD and is against QT.

>>10965035
I have limited experience working with pajeet subcontractors. But personal experience is while they are not the most competent, they are pretty much boot-lickers (even to someone like me who is in a relatively junior technical position). So I'm not sure I agree with your assessment that they think themselves genius. But I could be wrong and it could be an outward facade I'm getting fooled by. I'm not the best judge of character.

>> No.10965133

>>10965046
also cutting government spending (in the form of passing the costs onto giant corporations) is totally in line with Trump's platform

>> No.10965147

>>10965075
Wow, Tucker Carlson got so many good boy points from drumpf for that investigative hit piece. Anyway, money runs this country not some orange cheetoh and his personal vendetta against a REAL businessman so, no, this stupid commie legislation will not pass.

>> No.10965161

>>10965114
Bootlicking is part of their culture, the whole cast system and shit. It's always a facade.

>> No.10965210

>>10965147
breaking up monopolies is a time honored american tradition

>> No.10965217
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Picked up some FNGU last minute at 63

>> No.10965231

>>10965076
But wages are already rising in China, labour costs are going up. It's becoming infeasible to produce a lot of low value items which was traditionally made there. Like cheap items of clothing and whatnot, which is all moving to SEA. Also I think India has a lower labour cost than China now.

Govnmt subsidising key industries is the correct strategic move for any country. Anyone who don't do this is an idiot and I can only add points to China for this.

As is scrouging up resources in Africa. Again the correct strategic move, and another point added.

The move to high-tech is interesting, and I actually believe they are having some success. Brands like Lenovo and Huawei are slowing growing in the west as well. I would also have to add another point to them there.

The single biggest issue, by far, is the lack of domestic spending. The average chink just doesn't get enough money to spend, because the property bubble is so bloated. Waiting for it to burst now like most others but its sure taking its time.

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>>10965046
>You think a republican controlled government will pass anything that raises taxes on business owners
two words blow your argument out of the water:

Infrastructure Funding

>>10965054
Bezos really created the best loophole to make the biggest company in the world, while not being a monopoly

pretend there are 100 markets in the world, each worth $10
you could go the microsoft in the 90's route and own 100% of one market, but you will only be so big, and lawmakers WILL break you apart
max size=$10/$1000

but Bezos instead aims for a 10%-20% share of almost every market, which means they have plenty of competition in each market that they are in, but they are valued
max size = $2*100 = $200/$1000

now of course the world and various markets are not actually equal, but the principal is the same, One company has more capital than any of their competitors, and legally they havnt done a damn thing worng

if he wanted to, Bezos could make Amazon a monopoly in any one market, by using funds from every other sector to opperate the one at a loss, but undercutting every other company long enough to drive them out of buisness

but doing that would result in antitrust regulation, so it would be suicidal
so instead Amazon competes in as many markets as they can, not always being the biggest or best player in that market, but making a profit in each sector, increasing the companies overall value, which gives them rediculus amounts of capital, which can be used on R&D, or to enter into a new market

he found the loophole for log-scaled growth (although i doubt the company will ever be worth infinity dollars, since theres only so much money and customers in the world...)

>> No.10965237

>>10964935
>I don't think the chink government will let a total crash happen like Japan did
Shit man, I know the Elevens took almost a decade to start injecting money, but given the size of the Chinese bubble, they should pray for the malaise to be merely as bad as Japan's two decades. Beijing has a larger toolbox, but a lot of that flexibility only exists on paper when you consider the political difficulty in unwinding party members' fiefdoms to pay for bail-outs or tax cuts. You're right the government will never allow an acute crisis to develop, but in the long-run that might prove to be a mistake if it allows unproductive firms to remain in business en masse.

>> No.10965239

>>10965114
Emperor Trump is basically shitting on the NWO (no conspiracy shit here) and the imperial status of the USD
Doing that would btfo immigrants from shithole countries and actually making stuff in the USA instead of paying them by just printing dollars
And Trump is willing to accept and negotiate with countries that share the same view and that is the end goal of the tarde war: a return to a more sound trading practice in which 2 parties exchange real goods and services

Now, China wants to be the big boy and desires for the RMB to have that imperial status.

I think in 10 years' time we will be witnessing 2 spheres of influence: those following the USA and those following China

>> No.10965291

>>10965231
I don't care if China is correct to do all of its bullshit
I was just airing my view about why India is lagging China in the export scene

And yes, wages are rising in China but many low value industries have already relocated to SEA shitholes

Also, the shenanigans of China may be the right things to do to grow out of poverty, but those are precisely casus belli for China's competitors. Trump's outbursts are totally justified and sensible

>> No.10965305

>>10965291
>And yes, wages are rising in China but many low value industries have already relocated to SEA shitholes
And of course the owners are chinks

>> No.10965315

>>10965235
>Infrastructure funding

Has nothing to do with Bernie's proposed plan or Trump's policies so wtf are you saying again?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/need-know-infrastructure-funding/

>> No.10965337

>>10965291
>yes, wages are rising in China but many low value industries have already relocated to SEA shitholes

this is accurate
I am aware of some electric bicycle manufacturers who are in the process of moving facilities from china to vietnam right now to avoid tariff shit

>> No.10965339

Is it common for the market to bomb like it did today?

>> No.10965347

>>10965239
Only if china can survive the bubble popping which is a big if and that's not even factoring other major concerns. Like the Russia problem. Ie Russia is only a friend to China when China has money. You know Putin would love to fuck them.

>> No.10965370

>>10965291
Ah OK, yes those points would explain why India's exports are not doing well. Honestly I think they could take a page out of China's playbook. I think Modi is trying to run before he even learned to walk. You have to start with low value-added stuff before moving onto the higher value stuff, try making plastic toys and shit before IT projects. The "superpower by 2020" really isn't helping him.

>> No.10965382

>>10965235
>>10965315
Don't you know that public deficits are made to sort of counteract uncle Powell's QT ?

QT=less credit=less income for corporations and individules
but more public spending=more income

It was the same trick Reagan-dono and Volker-sama did in the 80s

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>>10964719
>DOW green yesterday
>DOW green today

why do you even bother with thr virgin index

>> No.10965425

>>10965347
China has indeed a debt problem
But it also has a yuuuge foreign reserve

It is using it to create its own sphere of influence with RMB at the top

Domestic debts in RMB will be taken care of by printing money and ripping off the chink population (get rekt faggots)
ChinkCom will burn through its foreign reserve to service debts in USD of its companies

The only unknown for them is social unrest (because inflation, risk of another lost decade due bubble bursting)

And I don't think Russia is only friend with China because it has money. Putin also knows he has to create the next new sphere of influence.

>> No.10965458

>>10965370
I admit I don't know much about India's policy and how their people view things in general
But I feel they still have a long way to go to "unify" and modernize their country (eg. the designated shitting street meme... India must mostly be a nigger-tier underdevelopped shithole)

>> No.10965469

todays only a mimor dip and not the start of the recession. we r winning the trade war bigly

>> No.10965470

>>10964614

%16.90, naise

>> No.10965473

>>10965425
Yeah domestic debt is not really an issue for any country. Same reason why you hear people bang on about the trillion dollar US debt, but since most of it is held by the fed and other other US entities, its not really an issue.

I'm not all that convinced the chink sphere of influence is working that well. Sure they have undertaken some pretty ambitious infrastructure projects, but real influence stems from far more than building projects.

>> No.10965637

>>10965473
I respect Ron Paul and his pundits but they are late on the concept of debt and money imo

But I think they misunderstand the modern meaning of money and its real power: it is like a score in video games. It is created out of thin air, it is intrinsically worthless but it makes everybody running in circle by tinkling their greed.
I believe the most dramatic progresses mankind has made were because some smart guys managed to make money more virtual and abstract and ever more readily available.

Going back to gold standard would create a giant recession.

Also, yes, China still has a long way to go in their quest for influence.
Imo, the success of the USA in that regards comes from:
- its military
- the USD
Why the USD is commonly accepted ? Because you can invest with it in the most dynamic, secure, easily researchable market in the world. Plus, you are protected by the anglo-saxon legislation (habeas corpus and shit)

The China financial market is a fucking joke. Just look at all the chink scam tech companies trying to IPO in the USA to steal gweilo's money.

What use would you have of the RMB ? buy moar fake cheap plastic crap ?

>> No.10965725

>>10964614
Up 3% today, with Gamestop leading my winners

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>> No.10965800

>>10964614
Down 3%, bleeding dry thanks to that nigger here who said to go long on DF

>Dude it's at a 52 week low it'll go up
>Keeps going down

Fuck me

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Hey guy's you seein the greeks on AMD?

The Ligma is through the roof.


LIGMA ASS HHHHH GOT EM

>> No.10965809

>>10965425
3 trillion is indeed yuge, but their bad debt load is yuger. The remainder is going to come from (hyper)inflation, depending on how much good money is thrown after bad to try and rekindle growth.
With other countries in the region rapidly developing and maintaining superior relations with the West, there's nothing on the horizon to suggest China could grow their way out of such slump any time soon. And one can only print money so long until the middle class revolts over their savings losing value (also, a food-importing country sapping its ability to pay for imports bodes very poorly).
Lavish loans are virtually the only thing keeping anyone in China's sphere of influence, so I predict that whole project collapses as soon as funding become an issue. Their military build-up is a money pit that they'll probably see as essential, and I won't rule out a crisis-rattled Beijing eventually deciding it's time to use it to conquer new markets.

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I always put the most money into my low IQ positions.

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>>10965800
Buffet says,if you buy undervalued companies in a group, its impossible to lose money
Keyword is GROUP

>> No.10965851

>>10965843
based and redpilled PTE poster

>> No.10965856

>>10965800
also, its at 20 year lows
not 52 week

>> No.10965858

>>10965836
Same, LB better go down for my portfolio's sake

>> No.10965873

>>10965800
I warned everyone, they're SOUR!

>> No.10965883

>>10965858
What's your expiration? What's your due diligence for betting against good smelling soap?

>> No.10965897

>>10965800
paleo is the craze now, everyone's cutting out dairy products

>> No.10965910

>>10965809
Social unrest, inflation, indeed
Their foreign reserve is the key

As for the relation with other countries, they are basically trying to reenact the Marshall plan (with the RMB in lieu of the USD)
But the chinks being chinks, they loan the country to the host country and it has to spend it in infrastructure projects carried out by chink companies... so the money goes back to China and the host country is indebted and potentially enslaved.
Malaysia just recently called out China on that
Many see their new silk road meme as a mean to use their industrial overcapacity and to subsidize their companies

Yeah, definitely a long way to go

>> No.10965914

>>10965800
Lol I made that mistake with some other tickers. But I learnt my lesson now, there is no value, only hype.

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>>10965800
> Dean Foods Co. engages in the manufacture, sale, and direct-to-store distribution of fluid milk and other dairy and dairy case products. Its portfolio includes the DairyPure and TruMoo brands, along with other regional dairy brands such as Alta Dena, Berkeley Farms, Country Fresh, Dean's, Friendly's, Garelick Farms, LAND O LAKES milk and cultured products, Lehigh Valley Dairy Farms, Mayfield, McArthur, Meadow Gold, Oak Farms, PET, T.G.

In other words, they're poised to make some gains if we can tear down Canada's milk trade barriers. You went long on the Trump administration to succeed, there's your problem.

>> No.10965952

>>10965395
Kek did you see the volition on SP today?
It was scalpers paradise

>> No.10965987

>>10965883
9/14
I bought shares early last week and sold after seeing how it took a plunge. Bought a put because spite now this.

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>>10965952
>scalping
>gpro
>spy
Soulless

Your company will fire you, so here is the tip: long the DOW

>> No.10966026

>>10965910
The key issue being that the One Belt/One Road crap is mostly pearls before swine that will never turn a profit, no matter how hard China tries to squeeze them.
I always harp on the inflation issue, because we've never seen China do shit during periods of social unrest. The last 25 years have been the easiest of easy streets for China, and history suggests their government is incapable of handling crises without teetering on civil war.

>> No.10966035

>>10965910

Protip: the Marshall plan had the same outcome for Europe.

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>>10966010
Good to know Buffet-sama appreciates thickness like all genius investors.

>> No.10966067

New bread
>>10966063
>>10966063>>10966063>>10966063
>>10966063>>10966063

>> No.10966108

>>10966026
Yeah
Those countries are shitholes for a good reason : because its people are shit and incapable of creating value
I don't have tangible proof but the path of hardening and moar control taken by the ChinkCom suggests that they might be on the verge of losing it
We shall see

>>10966035
You are right
And fortunately there was USSR because the money spent could be justified as defense against communism
Plus, they were actually spent on useful people

I am not sure in the case of the Silk road crap

>> No.10966149

>>10963683
>I can't afford even one stock

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>>10964316
>A hardware company that's can only get more orders creates a good product that gets purchases from business and consumers alike while their sole competitor is suffering
>Bursting any time soon

>> No.10966423

Bought CGC @ 56.29... How rekt am I

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>>10964479
>Shorting GameStop
>up16% today