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I'm 28 years old with about 1.4MM in assets given to me by my parents, and will probably inherit another 15MM within a few years.

I made over 800k in crypto over the past two years, and still have about 230k invested across btc and various other shit coins. (took home about 490k after taxes)

I'm looking to start a business, probably fund the development of a product then sell it through kickstarter, hoping it gets picked up by a private equity firm.

I read a lot of business/success oriented books and what I'm getting from between the lines is:

"You must be moral in business because I want to sell books and not be considered an asshole by the public... but what is morality, really?"

The people who are most successful in business tend to be people who conduct their business in an unscrupulous and predatory manner with no inhibitions, which would normally upset the public and cause their ideas to fail if not for the fact that they are so manipulative that they can literally change morality surrounding their business strategies.

Soda is an obvious example but good because it's very easy to understand. Sugar is literally toxic to your cells when it is ingested in high volume without fiber to slow it's metabolic breakdown, this is completely understood and proven by modern science, and no doctor or scientist, corporate or holistic, would ever recommend drinking soda. Yet coke is a life style brand now, it's everywhere making children fat as fuck and giving 13 year olds heart conditions.

I'm wondering, is it a sign of immaturity to believe in ideas such as right and wrong? Are we just animals with a less violent society which is only in place because it creates a greater net utility than the opposite? Basically, am I just a pussy pretending that I'm a good person and not a pussy?

I enjoy thinking about how to extract money from other people. Some of the prototype designs for products I've come up with are retarded but I know they would sell given proper marketing.

>> No.10922184

Should I try to just make as much money as possible in the most unethical but legal way? I think I could be good at this because I might be a shitty person who pretends to be good. I think I have morals but maybe I don't, and as I get older I'm starting to realize that a lot of the people I know are pieces of shit who masquerade as good people. I may only be a good person because I was born rich and was well educated. I never experienced and significant amount of scarcity, and that might be the reason I feel the way I do. What does biz think?

>> No.10922194

your ok op

>> No.10922206

your ok op, we know ur not gonna start a business anyways

>> No.10922209

hows everything


you need to live life on the edge


where ya located maybe splurging on a vacation could help

>> No.10922222

no op, if youre a good person you'd start righting wrongs and keep it right.
if youre gonna jew might as well jew it hard

>> No.10922225

>>10922222
WITNESSED

>> No.10922235

>>10922175
>am I just a pussy pretending that I'm a good person and not a pussy?
Unironically this is a really profound realization and you should be proud of yourself for thinking it. I have zero answers for you but the fact that you can look at yourself in such an unbiased way is a really good quality to have.

>> No.10922246

>>10922235
This

>> No.10922245

how about a room full of woman

please you in every way

>> No.10922248

>>10922175
>I'm wondering, is it a sign of immaturity to believe in ideas such as right and wrong?

99% of people believe in right and wrong. The remaining 1% are psychopaths and sociopaths, a lot of them working in finance or as business leaders.
Of course psychopaths can make load of money thanks to their skills, but you have to ask yourself if you will be happy by imitating people that have an actual issue in their brain (lack of empathy and feelings).

>> No.10922268

>>10922175
ur retarded thats for sure, die

>> No.10922270

>>10922184
After reading your second post I understand you're probably a sociopath.
So go ahead with your plan, you cannot repair yourself to feel empathy anyway.

>> No.10922276

>>10922184
Starting to feel this way too, to be quite honest.

People who are helped are the ones begging the most.
Top execs in firms are asses more often than not. I wanted to believe otherwise, maybe I'm wrong.
With women it's the same, the kinder you are the harder they step on you.

This last part is maybe why everyone is so shit. For a vast majority, chasing women is their prime directive in life, they miserably fail when they are being good, and this acts as negative reinforcement.

I have no clear answer as I'm wondering about this myself, but latest evidence suggests one shouldn't really give a shit. Or you do it like Billy .G, be an absolute piece of shit and redeem yourself by putting it all in charity later. How many times did I head that Gates is an angel to Jobs, obviously none of them have read anything about the whole Netscape story.

>> No.10922279

>>10922206
I might not, but I have the option to, unlike you, YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.

>> No.10922285

>>10922175
The difference is you can choose to be tough versus cruel.

It's a sign of immaturity to believe in the concept of immaturity.
Do what makes you happy is the only ultimate truth.

>> No.10922312

>>10922270
>>10922276
I think there's a difference between strength and bully/tyrant energy. There's a very fine line and people are attracted to strength often gravitate towards tyrant energy because their signals are similar, though no one (especially women) would prefer tyrant energy over strength if given the choice.

However I think a prime directive of marketing strategy (overall) is to weaken people who are strong. People who are strong make other's strong, and strong people don't buy stupid shit and give up their money/resources/time in order to fill terrible emotional voids within them.

>> No.10922319

>>10922285
Personally, being nice and kind to people makes me happy. Seeing smiles on others faces.
But I have no illusions that we don't live in a dog eat dog world, and if the shit hits the fan I will look after that which is important to me. My wife and close family.
Do good when you can and within reason, anon. But don't sacrifice yourself.

>> No.10922326

>>10922175

Everyone does that and where are we at? We're living in China, lobsters dragging us back into the pot. Virtue is it's own reward. You have plenty of money, why do you need to cheat?

>> No.10922391

>>10922175
There's probably just as much money to be made in the health industry than in the unhealthy industry, if it bothers you so much then find your own niche, what matters is how you use the weapons of marketing to sell your products, you can sell an ethical product unethically for example. The 'godfather' of modern marketing became famous for selling cigarettes to women using the new feminist freedom movement by claiming it was good to lose weight. Zumba classes or smoothie blenders use the same strategy, sell the same goal but their products are ethical. A smart company could be able to use the marketing strategies of soft drinks or fast food to sell tea or quinoa salads, add a friendly logo and some toys and kids will beg their parents to buy them veggies.

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>> No.10922416

>>10922175
Money itself is basically an evil. Just look at the entire financoak system, its just a huge ponzi.

>> No.10922424

>>10922399
timella, i prey for the safety of your asshole

>> No.10922429

>>10922391
The health industry is just as unscrupulous too. Everything is just selling quick fixes when the only real answer is a lifestyle change and exercise.
Look at gym memberships. The way the gym makes money is to get subs THAT DONT TURN UP TO THE GYM

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I remember seeing athletes like Michael Jordan and seeing Bill Gates and thinking wow those are good successful people. Then you look a bit behind the scenes of what they have done like Jordan investing in prisons, Bill Gates stealing shit etc etc. It's all "shady" at the end. You play by the rules if the rules are enforced. Everything else doesn't matter. It's like nigger rappers who are like "yeah foh muh hood", but when they make money from "hood" buying their shit then they will shill themselves as much as possible to make more money(Jay Z, 50 cent).

Most successful people realise that 99% are normies aka sheep that should be exploited because they'll get exploited somehow anyway. With the money they get from the 99% they can start supporting causes that matter to them whether it's science research, supporting their own nation, preserving the environment etc etc.

Basically exploit the 99% so you can create a better future for your causes while keeping in mind the effects of the exploitation on the future.

I'm only 18 so what the fuck do I know.

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> is it a sign of immaturity to believe in ideas such as right and wrong?

Why are we normalizing sociopathic behaviors? Amazing the length sociopaths will go to rationalize their behavior.

This faggot has over 1 million dollars and still he "enjoys thinking about how to extract money from other people." Absolutely disgusting. I hope you get hung from the nearest lamppost, you parasite -- you have done nothing for society, just inherited wealth and now you think you're above people. As if people don't deserve an ounce of decency.

What a scum of a human being you are and I bet you would be ashamed if these thoughts were not anonymous.

>> No.10922462

>>10922429
Yes that's what I meant by selling an ethical product unethically. Fitness industry is very scummy but overall it does more good than harm. For my own conscience, I'd rather open a gym or sell whey rather than sell cigarettes, even if it meant exploiting consumer ignorance or stupidity to stay in the green from time to time. Those who are looking for quick fixes will get burned but those who educate themselves properly will get something positive out of it.

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Also what the fuck is up with the governments? $6 trillion "LOST" from Pentagon books. $6 trillion of tax payer money just fucking lost. How can you lose $6 trillion. You can't. It's all bullshit. And yet nobody gives a shit because that's how the people have designed to be. Dumb and docile.

>> No.10922482

>>10922462
No, there is no ethical product. What they need isnt a thing they can buy.
Consumerism isnt ethical at all, its just selling as much as you can.

>> No.10922486

>>10922434
>I'm only 18 so what the fuck do I know
You sound like your head is pretty well screwed on.
It hardly even counts as exploitation when consumers clamour for these things. Those doing the "exploiting" are their idols.

>> No.10922495

nobody cares if youre an asshole if they want your product. this statement summarized everything you could possibly read, send me money please

>> No.10922508

>>10922175
>>10922184
>>10922279

You're an absolute spoon-in-mouth mongoloid and you'll never make it apart from always being mommy and daddy's special little drop of semen that inherited the money

Anyway enjoy wasting your time on your business "idea" of being unethical, sure is a great way to spring board an entire business - a practice with an incredibly high failure rate that requires all of the drive, insight and talent that you absolutely do not have, hence why you're discussing it here on an Irish Lithographic Illustration board with a bunch of 15-21 year olds who, on a percentile basis, will exceed your investments simply gambling on shitcoins with their student loans

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>>10922184
>I never experienced and significant amount of scarcity, and that might be the reason I feel the way I do.

You have not lived life to its limits, for its struggles, in there is its beauty -- you have lived like a spoiled brat. And for that, you have no shred of actual social intelligence and all your illusions about yourself are ultimately only based in narcissistic grandiosity and nothing more or less.

You have given nothing to this world, have experienced nothing of value, and therefore will remain where you are: useless, pondering your self-importance, and squandering life because its fruits were given to your in a silver platter. It's a pity really that you see your thoughts as even remotely insightful because they sound like the musings of a pathetic manchild who thinks he does not own the world anything.

So keep up your insincere 'good behavior' while you rot inside and rationalize why you feel no empathy. You think everyone around you doesn't notice it? They do. Frankly, everyone likely knows you're full of shit --they're just playing nice for the other eyes watching or some other motive.

>> No.10922587

>>10922399
who is this, it's not timella

>> No.10922604

>>10922482
Do you cultivate your own vegetables, butcher your own meat, only live off berries like McCandless? There are products that fufill basic human needs, and there are products/services designed to improve quality of life. I don't need a computer and internet but they allow me to talk with you easily, otherwise I'd have to travel halfway around the world. You could debate the ethics of technological innovations endlessly, but the point is there's a clear purpose and it's up to you to decide if they're useful for you or not, if they're worth trading your spent-time-earning-currency for. I don't mind paying for a gym membership because it's more convenient to have specifically designed optimal weight equipment in a dedicated space rather than lifting rocks in my garden. Then there are products like soda or cigarettes or reality TV or porn, etc. which are objectively unethical garbage, poison for mind & body.

>> No.10922632

>>10922455
There is nothing wrong with inheriting wealth you poor faggot. In a capitalistic and free society you are free to do with your wealth as you wish. If my parents wanted to give me a better life then it's their right to do so, as I will do with my kids. You aren't bringing any ideas to the table, even bad ideas, you're just expressing how butthurt you are.

>> No.10922680

>>10922508
>>10922553
Why do you retards think in polar opposites? I didn't struggle to the point of pushing human limits of suffering, so I must be some spoon fed brat? I assure you that in my spare time I have contributed more to this world than either of you faggots ever will in a life time. Keep living like edgelord incels I'm sure that will work out.

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>>10922222
Checked

>> No.10922701

>>10922553
I don't agree with you at all and I'm a poorfag. Seriously, just cause rich fag over here was born into wealth and hasn't had struggles doesn't mean he's useless. What's the human experience anyway? in the end nothing matters, it's all sorta pointless so just enjoying this life counts in the end. the whole morality of being useful or not is your own conditioning.

The no empathy thing is fucked up tho, I'll give you that.

>> No.10922707

>>10922175
How did you do your taxes when you sold crypto?

>> No.10922749

>>10922707
His daddy's accountant took care of it obviously. Don't expect someone like that to do something complex by himself.

>> No.10922771

>>10922749
Seriously why are you fags so butthurt over anon here being born into money? you guys come off salty af, lol. Just cause he's got money doesn't mean he's stupid.

>> No.10922826

>>10922175
make money by giving people what they want. what happens next is not your problem, don't stress over it. that fat fuck wants soda? it's his problem. sell him soda (make him happy) and make money (make yourself happy).

>> No.10922917

>>10922399
NAME OF THE GIRL RIGHT NOW!

>> No.10922920

>>10922771
All people born into wealth are like that. They can't help. They always had people to do everything for them.
It doesn't mean they are dumb or less intelligent, they're just less practical, because of their education.

>> No.10922943

>>10922175
>>10922184
Here OP

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CaH2ZvFzQf8

>> No.10922955

>>10922604
>i prefer x over y therefore its good
Thats just like, your opinion man

>> No.10922969

OP you sound like an atheist.

>> No.10922997

Do what you need to op. Business is business. What is right is what people agree to, and if you don't have to put up a bunch of screens and mirrors to sell, I'd call that pretty damn ethical. Start asking these questions when you are the size of crapple, at&t, jewgle, faceberg, or Amazon. When you are reaching for the top of the control pyramid, start checking your decisions this way. Until then, ethical and acceptable are set by corporations much bigger than you.

>> No.10922998

Sauce on girl?

>> No.10923026

>>10922184
You are asking whether you should be a good person ...on the chans. You already know the answer, you are just asking in a place which you know will justify that answer.

>> No.10923033

>>10922587
>>10922917
>>10922998
Marta E

>> No.10923038

>>10922997
A tip though, really try to get people to buy you and your brand. Even though you can undersell someone else doesn't mean you, yourself can't be undersold.

>> No.10923085

>>10922222
Checked

>> No.10923146

Provide a service. Preferably a passive income based business. This leaves you with freedom and income, which allows you to do what you choose with your time. Be a betterment to your local society, instead of one that feeds from it. Money will not replace your soul, spiritually. The ones that feed on others are not trying to make money. They seek power, which is measured against those less fortunate. Always pay attention to the difference between those who seek to be a businessman, and those who seek to lord over others. The difference; once identified; is clear. Balance of life is key, not success as measured by others. Keep your head level, always keep over eye open for opportunity, and realize that having capital AND the will to take a gamble on a valid idea is what separates the successful from the average joe who talks much but acts little.

>> No.10923154

You should be moral to your investors. Customers are fair game, unless hurting them would hurt your investors

>> No.10923198

Additionally, remember that true wealth is not measured in shiny things, but rather in the ability to do little as a necessity yet maintain current lifestyle. You will watch people throughout your life of all income levels chasing the next raise, thinking that will be the one, things will finally be proper. Most people do not have an income problem, they have a money management problem. Keeping your wealth, once aquired, is typically harder than making it. Understand risk mitigation, and the power of incorporation. Realize that hiding your wealth from others leads to a more fulfilling life than brandishing it, especially in interpersonal relationships of all kinds. Learn tax code at least to a minimum, and spend moderate amounts in finding a good tax man, as taxes account for your biggest losses throughout life. Lastly, may the odds be ever in your favor.

>> No.10923276

>>10923198
Sir, it has been an absolute honor to witness your wisdom here today on /biz. Please sir, do not leave us yet. There is so much more I want to learn and ask of you.

I am a young bizzer living in London. Crypto has done me well but I want to create more wealth. I want my kids to become upper class. I myself want to live a lavish lifestyle for short periods to enjoy myself but remain wealthy. How does a young male today enjoy the flashy lifestyle (and the women that come along with it) but not destroy their future?

The difference between adulthood and childhood is the removal of toys.

>> No.10923293

>>10922707
>>10922749
It's important to treat the income as basically winning the lottery, because if you classify yourself as a trader you will pay more in taxes.

>> No.10923294

SOMEONE SCREENCAP THIS THREAD HOLY SHIT

>> No.10923300

>>10922920
>assumptions about things he knows nothing about as if they are law.

lol stfu you angry idiot. you sound like a communist antifa member with basedmilk for blood.

>> No.10923439

wow

not a single person doubts the veracity of the OP
not a single person asking for evidence it's not a LARPer

sad days

>> No.10923481

>>10923276
Only the hungry venture out in search of food. Providing your children with a upper class childhood is okay. Providing your children with a highly privileged childhood will turn into supporting your children before you realize it. Contrary to popular belief, the majority of millionaires are not silver spoon. Most millionaires are single generation. The mindset cultivated that brings wealth is the goose, the money and assets are the golden egg. Removing the need to have the goose destroys the mentality that seeks the goose. Provide yourself with a mental experiment. Keep two kids separate from birth. Have one work for every gift and privilege, have the other granted it because
he is "special". How will the kids turn out?
Toys are okay, as long as they do not skew your finances. A good rule of thumb is to always spend as if you are one income bracket down. The shiny things are a trap. You like cars, but can afford a mustang. You then socialize with others that have mustangs and similar vehicles. You then lust for the Cobra. Your income triples. You now have a Gallardo. You now hang out with others who have similar cars but lust after the aventador. Your income triples again. You now have an aventador, and hang out with others who have similar cars, but lust after the agera. Your income triples again. You now have the agera, but lust after the Ferrari GTO. If chasing the lavish, you only seek to feed the ego, and the ego is never satisfied. The same applies to watches, to homes, to everything. It never ends. As your things grow flashier, you hang out with those who also have flashier things. you then compare your self worth to your friends. If you must, keep the Cobra. Put the money into the engine instead and be a god amongst your group. The people you meet driving the mustang are more interesting and less interested in dick measuring pettiness anyway.

>> No.10923511

>>10923439
This. Fucking this! Where THE FUCK are we? On a retard naive board where we talk ethic or is this fucking 4chan? What is this normue invasion? Is this reddit? The base in this thread is at 9gag level. Something needs to be done to cure this retard cancer!!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>10923439
yes wow. This is my checking which I use for bullshit and paying off credit cards (which I use for points, I have zero debt)

>> No.10923546

>>10923511
Checked
>>10923515
Why should anybody care about your money? What's your use here? This discussion goes round and round to nowhere. It's not even useful to you. Are you bored?

>> No.10923578

>>10923546
discussion sharpens the intellect even if it goes nowhere, which it rarely does. So sorry for starting a conversation that might bring some meaning to the meaningless lives of the average biztard.

>> No.10923604

Nothing good comes from brandishing your wealth. All you will do is attract people wanting to do the same. The people, the women.... Especially the women. You cannot convince a girl to like you. Flashing money, fancy cars, expensive dinners, they are all a form of manipulation. You are trying to manipulate. Saying "here, I can provide this" is an attempt to convince. You cannot convince attraction. You will only bring yourself frustration. Your advantage is that men are mostly visual. I could show you the most amazing girl on the planet, but if she's homely in your eyes, it doesn't matter. Likewise, I could show you the most wrecked girl on the planet, but if you think she's a ten, you'd still take her to bed. Women are not like that. They get hit on all the time. They need a way to weed out the numbers. Character is usually that critique. How often do you see a stunning girl with a homely looking guy and wonder "why??". Now think about how often you see the same situation in reverse. One way is common, the other is not. This is your advantage to being a man. Be in at least reasonably respectable shape. Have good hygiene. If you live in the us, id tell you to fix your teeth if they're screwed up, but in the UK it is far less a thing. Experiment with your haircut to find what suits you. Ask the hairdresser what she recommends. You don't need expensive boutique clothes, just respectable ones that are quality and fitted well. Don't fall for fads. Dressing classy is knowing what's popular and finding your style within it. If you think skinny jeans are stupid, don't wear them. Don't dress pretentiously. A good woman doesn't care about the flash, she wants to see that you're well sorted. Invicta makes 100$ watches that won't make you cry when you break them. Pay attention to detail.. in yourself. Be confident but humble. Prop others up, only the weak tear others down. Be affable, but do not tolerate disrespect. Only fight when it's justified

>> No.10923611

>>10923578
You don't give a shit about this discussion. You were looking for confirmation to soothe the decaying remains of a barely used conscience you decided to leave behind for good.

>> No.10923628

>>10923300
>assumptions about things he knows nothing about as if they are law.
I know these things very well.
You assumed that I didn't know what I was talking about as if it was a law.

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>>10922175
>having doubts that successful businessman are immoral

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>>10923633
Oh and also: could you send me like $5K through paypal real quick? It would literally change my life

>> No.10923677

>>10922175
how do I unsubscribe?

>> No.10923691

>>10922175
>I'm looking to start a business

Sure, you can try. But you should also research how many entrepreneurs outperform just simply buying the S&P500 and letting it sit for a few years.

I would do some variation of an Austrian investor portfolio and try to build a business from literally zero. Like no investment, especially no debt. Only the money you rake in from dividends and interest.

> Should I try to just make as much money as possible in the most unethical but legal way?

I would frame it differently: you should try to make the most money possible, as long as it's legal. If it happens to be unethical TO YOU, you should still do it, I think.

As long as you don't rob, rape, murder, steal,... from people, I think you're in the clear ethically. People have free will and if they choose to drink soda and do Xanax all day, that's their choice.

>> No.10923693

>>10923578
Discussions that goes nowhere are masturbating the intellect. That's jerking off. Here the talk is about ethic and your money. What do you want to do with that money? Buy more LINK? Please go ahead.

Now if you want to talk about right or wrong...
There would not be an internet and planes and most techs if Hitler didn't trigger a reaction to fight him. The world corrects itself. So in the end it doesn't really matter which side you chose.
Nobody could walk if the skin didn't got harder where it is rubbing the most.
Where do you stand OP? Are you the creator of something unstable and evil? Are you the catalyst that will trigger it's fall? Or the reactant, a relentless warrior?

>> No.10923725

>>10922175
Right and Wrong is always subject to your perspective. If people are themselves willing to go out and buy coke even if they know it's not good for them, then you can't stop that. It's the same as people reaching for drugs, you can put in all the effort to keep them away from it but if people want it then they'll have it. Marketing to children is immoral in my opinion.

>> No.10923739

I think our idea of morals are poisoned by Christianity. In Christianity the most moral thing to do is to give up all forms of personal power. This means having no power over reality which helps fucking no one.

I think of morals in business as follows:
Fuck all other businesses, they're in the game.

Your employees are a gray-zone, but I think it's other institutions job to make sure they're ok? If exploiting them is the only way to remain competitive you don't really have a choice.

Your product on the other hand is completely your responsibility, if you make something bad like Cigarettes, or Coke then you have chosen yourself to be immoral.

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>>10923739
>our morals are poisoned by Christianity

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>>10922222
Checked

>> No.10923785

>>10923725
Free will is only true in a spiritual sense. Physically, you can get people addicted to soda/sugar etc and then just throw your hands up and say "hey man people are going to do what they're going to do" when people question your ethics. You can absolutely trick people into getting addicted to sugar and other vices in the same way as tricking someone into trying heroin a couple of times.

>> No.10923796

>>10923760
how does having no power over reality help anyone then

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>> No.10923841

>>10922175
>>10922184
Are you interested in brazilian boipucci?

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>>10923739
Shalom

>> No.10923861

>>10923841
Free will is only true in a spiritual sense. Physically, you can get people addicted to brazilian boipucci etc and then just throw your hands up and say "hey man people are going to do what they're going to do" when people question your ethics. You can absolutely trick people into getting addicted to brazilian boipucci and other vices in the same way as tricking someone into trying heroin a couple of times.

>> No.10923926

>>10923853
I think OT is better in the sense that it doesn't fear Power, but it has to many fucking oddities to it:
anti-gay, anti-foreskin, anti-texture-mixing, pro-goat-sacrificing, pro-giving-away-your-daughters-to-protect-strangers e.t.c.

>> No.10923942

I hope you fail and have a bad life op

>> No.10923951
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If not larping, just keep the money and make money off interest and off holding bitcoin as fiatmeme deprecates against it. Chances are you are too dumb/will not have the luck required for a business to do well and you will just lose money.

>> No.10923961

>>10922184
I think you should read crime and punishment by Dostoyevsky.

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>>10923926
>anti-gay
>odd
Blue pilled as fuck

>> No.10924013

I have to pay my debt.
Court is pushing me.
I'm not a lazy fuck who doesn't work and waits for a miracle but I want to find a nice solution for earning a fine amount of money to cut this shit forever.

For those who want to know how I ended up like that: 4 years of court cases with my ex co-owner of my company. I won, but I've taken his last move on my shoulders which was basically a "freedom buying" strategy to not have any contact with this tiring and boring psycho again. It wouldn't reach the end if I didn't take this on me.

I've invested most of my available money in other business related things and now I'm fucked. I want to pay my remittance asap.

Darkweb illegal things not really wanted.

Any ideas?

>> No.10924195

>>10924013
Sell some of the business related things or ask for a loan.

>> No.10924254

you sound immature and jewish
for white people there is unironically more money to be made in ethical business, because we don't have strong ingroup preference. so proving yourself to be a reliable guy on high end jobs secures you contacts who will bring you the next deal, and so on
being a conman as a white guy is the fastest road to the trailer park

>> No.10924302

To be a good businessman you need to understand and anticipate/deliver on the needs of others

Even though you may achieve that by being psychopathic and immoral, the end goal is always to satiate people other than yourself. This is why the immoral businessman is always doomed to be a little man, and why nobody ever remembers people who are 'just' rich

>> No.10924328

>>10922175
Good post OP, absolute right and wrong don't exist but things can be a set of rules can determine what percieved as right and wrong in 'models' of morality then other actions can be determined as right and wrong inside of the 'model'

>> No.10924779

got o Mauritania and start a nigger slave business

>> No.10924911

>>10922175

Standing up for what you think is right is a sign of maturity.

Children tend to act selfishly.

>> No.10924953

>>10922175
Buy several hundred thousands of dollars in boomer dividend stocks like coca cola, p&g, j&j etc use this dividend money to learn to trade and live off of. You will be able to learn money management from the interest alone as your inheritance is a stagnant pile of cash. Good luck op

>> No.10925176

>>10922175
It's all subjective. Buying a diamond is the most beautiful thing you can do for a woman and everyone will praise you for it. Meanwhile, poor starving africans are digging it out of mines. It's still legal though?

Can't wait to get the new iPhone? Apple is the greatest company ever. Meanwhile, asians are working in factories for a bowl of rice a day. Or the new Jordan's from Nike, etc. You get the picture.

You're not immature. You're just waking up to the realities of the world.

>Should I try to just make as much money as possible in the most unethical but legal way?

This is kind of vague without knowing what you are trying to do. I mean, if you could achieve the same profits without being unethical...that would be better? But yeah you're going to have to be ruthless in some ways to achieve massive success.

Business is ruthless. People don't understand this.

>> No.10925185

>>10922175
just go to thailand and live there until you expire

>> No.10925305

>>10922175
join this discord and ping me, MadDoggo
i've got something for you.

>https://discord-gg/dEgPJ8

>> No.10925316

>>10925305
>i want ur monies

>> No.10925401

>>10925316
nope, got a business deal for the guy.
wont cost him anything.

>> No.10925419

>>10925401
sweet, i'm in bro. where do i sign up?

>> No.10925423

>>10922184
You don't need to lose your morality since you can just delegate immorality by hiring marketing people that do the dirty work of gross manipulation of the masses for you.
Contract-making, people/location-scouting, networking, you can do all that without having to become a jew.
In fact, delegating and making the goyim do everything for you, i.e. being a jew is how you can not become a jew yourself paradoxically, because there is nothing more immoral than a slave and the work it does, no matter whether its collar is blue or white.

>> No.10925489

>>10922175
Two things OP: reputation management and actually doing harm. If your product does real harm to people no amount of reputation management will help. Lets consider say a spinning fidget - its a complete waste of fucking time and is probably bad for your wrists. Nevertheless its not catastrophically bad, and sold decently

>> No.10925505

Depends on ur iq. If it's low, dont waste time pondering things like good and evil. They're good shorthands and concepts that evolved to help brainlets cope with the world.
If it's high, you can go real deep read some nietzsche and philosophize about these things or gain control over your empathy (if not natural sociopath) and squeeze the lifeblood out of normies to fuel your personal goals.
Don' t feel bad for inheriting wealth, but do build on what your forebears gifted you. The people deriding you for inheriting wealth are the vilest scum who will leave their decendants in the same situation they complain about.

>> No.10925535

>Am I immature?

If you have to ask other people for their opinion about you, probably.