How long until the next 2008 level recession?

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Anonymous Sat Sep 1 10:26:52 2018 No.10912631 [Reply] [Original]

How long until the next 2008 level recession?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 10:27:36 2018 No.10912640 >>10912631 Will happen in 2018 or 2019 for several reasons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 10:27:43 2018 No.10912641 File: 46 KB, 1000x900, nupepe_smile.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It'll be any second now

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 10:33:08 2018 No.10912667 >>10912631 >"everything bubble" Otherwise known as "growth".

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 10:35:33 2018 No.10912685 You will never be able to afford housing again - give up millenial trash, this is our time. You pay your rent like a good little millenial.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 10:40:37 2018 No.10912715 >>10912667 "Growth" - printing more and more cheap money via QE is called growth nowadays. okay

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 10:42:13 2018 No.10912727

>>10912631
2021. G20 banks have until then to enact bail-in legislation. The next one is going to be cataclysmic for savers, wiping out uninvested money greater than 100K. Allowing it to happen before the deadline for banks will force bail outs that most governments can't endure and carries with it unacceptable risk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 10:44:23 2018 No.10912747 >>10912715 Yep. >" ".

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 10:45:44 2018 No.10912765 >>10912727 >The next one is going to be cataclysmic for savers, wiping out uninvested money greater than 100K So how do I protect myself against this? PMs and treasuries?

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 12:02:48 2018 No.10913318

>>10912667
Nothing has grown but debt

Most companies are seeing flat business and more cautious customers. Buy backs are pushing stocks up, along with crumbling currency values.

Things are close to bad than good...but i don't anticipate much down trend till late next year. Everyone is using every trick in the book to keep markets propped up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 12:04:03 2018 No.10913332 >>10912631 Whenever the student debt bubble bursts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 12:05:29 2018 No.10913345 File: 48 KB, 553x626, mytat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10912640 Care to share those reasons?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 12:07:50 2018 No.10913371 >>10912765 Buy Bitcoin.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 12:08:55 2018 No.10913384 >>10912685 this is why millinials are becomming more socialist. they have no stake in the system anymore so might as well tear it all down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 12:10:38 2018 No.10913398 >>10912631 i expect it in 2020 market cycles have grown longer and longer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 12:13:04 2018 No.10913421 >>10912631 2008 was nothing. The next one will be real and will spark off civil war in US and Europe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 12:15:46 2018 No.10913447 >>10912631 The fed has been manipulating the bond yield curves, and the stock market currently lines up with the bubble meme chart perfectly. 45 days.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 12:21:04 2018 No.10913497 the longer it holds the better and harder the outcome i've been prepping since 2010, quite funny how things are ending up way way WAY worse when i thought it couldn't get any worse, life is full of surprises i guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 12:24:01 2018 No.10913520 >>10913345 >that 40 year wine aunt who only drinks starbucka coffee

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 14:12:59 2018 No.10914496 >>10912631 max 3 years

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 14:14:30 2018 No.10914512 >>10912715 /thread Your scale sucks. USD hyperinflation

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 14:15:13 2018 No.10914522 >all these broke zoomers sitting on the sidelines during the greatest bullrun of our lifetimes LOL O L

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 14:16:16 2018 No.10914529 >>10914522 So you are boomer who will be part of the mass suicide? Nice to meet you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 14:18:52 2018 No.10914541 File: 92 KB, 1280x543, 590c4d44f66e91f8a224f2a645286a67f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10914529 >i-it'll crash a-any day now LMAO A M B O

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 14:18:53 2018 No.10914543 >>10912727 So where to invest if everything is bubble? Crypto and pm :d?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 14:20:28 2018 No.10914562 File: 11 KB, 248x187, 1477435688883.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck off commies stay fucking mad. Seriously how mad are you that the SPX keeps growing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 14:21:59 2018 No.10914574 >>10914543 Crypto will cause a bank run before that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 14:25:23 2018 No.10914597 File: 79 KB, 738x741, 1527523688142.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10913345

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 15:03:06 2018 No.10914899 That's a fucking gross butterfly pattern. Whatever you're supposed to short, fucking short it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 15:04:49 2018 No.10914915 File: 20 KB, 125x125, sneeki-krugman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10912667 Who's behind this post?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 15:06:29 2018 No.10914929 The funny part is deluded bizraelites think the crash will pump crypto

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 15:14:18 2018 No.10914994 >>10913520 glad to see the wine aunt meme again

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 15:19:51 2018 No.10915042 >>10912765 Tether

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 15:23:31 2018 No.10915072 File: 56 KB, 290x352, 1535787513040.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10914915

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 15:54:04 2018 No.10915359
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>>10913421
This. The next bubble popping will be the match that starts a Civil (really a Race) War throughout the Western world. Once the golden goose runs out the diversity will eat away at each other.

>>10914929
>The funny part is deluded bizraelites think the crash will pump crypto

The crash could be so bad crypto will be worthless. You'll want hard goods, not some private keys on a USB. When the grocery stores run out of food because of a fiat collapse ain't no niggers gonna be trying to steal your btc bruh. Maybe some white people will barter with you for btc, but nonwhites won't.

>>10913345
First it will be housing. There are multiple threads in the past month discussing were in a bubble. My parents are trying to sell their home in the Chicago suburbs and have has less than 10 showings all summer. Out of the dozen listings in their neighborhood, only two have sold all summer. Most Chicago suburbs are slow. A lot of markets are starting to show "Cold" on zillow.

Come next spring once boomers start marking their homes down 30-40% foreclosures will start.

The state and municipal governments in places such as IL, Chicago, NY, NJ, CT, MA, KY, and CA NEED higher property values because they have hundreds of billions of dollars in unfunded pension liabilities that they need to keep feeding with higher property taxes. This list also includes thousands of municipalities throughout the country. The list of public debt at the local and state level is $4 trillion, all these smaller governments will go bankrupt and need a Fed bailout.

If not, we will see a MASSIVE cut to government services. In Harvey, IL they laid off half the police and firefighter force due to pensions.

However, this will hyperinflate the dollar and eat away at the last of America's paltry savings. Also once boomers lose money in the real estate bubble they are gonna cash out their 401k;s and run for the hills. Stocks will crash.

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 15:56:35 2018 No.10915390

>>10915359

I should also mention that the reason properties are moving so slowly in places like Chicago is because buyers don't want to be on the hook for the property taxes or an increase. This works as a double-edged sword, because even though the state needs the property tax revenue their residents won't be able to sell the property for what it is worth due to the taxes so the property sits on the market for months. It is a vicious cycle.

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 16:00:57 2018 No.10915432
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>>10915359
Eventually the Fed will have to bail out too many sectors of the economy to rely on them for a recovery without causing massive hyperinflation.

We're gonna see some serious fucking shit go down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 16:02:13 2018 No.10915443 >>10912685 Why the fuck would a millennial buy a house when he knows he’ll have to switch jobs in the near future because Mr. Shekelstein won’t give him a raise?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 16:05:45 2018 No.10915484 File: 33 KB, 652x315, 1524517545034.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10915432 How did we get here anon? Where did it go wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 16:13:15 2018 No.10915554 >>10915484 boomers handed over every part of their lives to megacorps in exchange for convenience, then they let the TV raise their kids so none of us knew what was going on until we grew up and noticed everything was shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 16:13:23 2018 No.10915555 File: 93 KB, 310x440, 1463235495081.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10915484 idk goyim you tell me

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 16:14:25 2018 No.10915567 >>10915432 Bail in legislation is already ready to go.

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 16:17:01 2018 No.10915597
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>>10915567
>Bail in legislation is already ready to go.

Go where. Interest rates were at 4% in 2006, we had room to go down to zero. Also the Fed only had to bail out the housing market.

Now interest rates are barely half that and the Fed will have to bail out not just housing but hundreds of governments and god knows what else. We will see negative interest rates and complete collapse of what's left of the middle class' savings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 16:37:44 2018 No.10915786 >>10915359 What happens to the bond market in such a case? I'm currently considering hedging the stock market with bond ETFs. Am I a brainlet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 16:53:50 2018 No.10915927 >>10912715 This

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 16:59:11 2018 No.10915982 About an hour.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 17:01:12 2018 No.10915999 >>10912727 Hey wait shit I have 160k in a checking account. Wat do?!?!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 17:07:02 2018 No.10916039 Nobody knows what will happen Everything might crash within the next 2 months or go up for 5 more years Feels bad to be a brainlet and not to know where to invest

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 17:08:55 2018 No.10916053 >>10912631 >>10912640 >>10912727 >>10915359 >>10915390 >>10915432 kewl how do I short the housing market? all I see is $$$$$$$$$$$$

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 17:30:42 2018 No.10916269 >>10916053 watch the Big Short kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 17:30:59 2018 No.10916274 >>10912727 >The next one is going to be cataclysmic for savers, wiping out uninvested money greater than 100K Yeah right, why would it wipe out any uninvested money, you realize you can have bank accounts in more than one country

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 18:14:21 2018 No.10916708 >>10912631 >2008 level recession More like 1930s level recession.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 18:16:03 2018 No.10916731 >>10916708 Coming depression will be the worst in human history bar none. Might lead to complete collapse

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 18:16:55 2018 No.10916745

I honestly believe the market will not crash under a Trump presidency, reason being he knows his presidency is over the moment he can't run on his economy theme. Also this time is different, the bull market shows the same patterns as before the 2008 recession but other economic factors do not and are showing positive middle developments.

However, a recession is coming within 15- 20 years and it will be a very nasty one. Probably one that won't recover in atleast a decade. Also civil unrest will destroy most of European countries and US. China will have big problems before that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 18:18:52 2018 No.10916766 >>10915484 Central banking/fiat money, corporate personhood, and female suffrage. Those were our fuckups and now it's time to pay the piper

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 18:21:33 2018 No.10916792 >>10916745 He doesn't have a say in the matter you aspie, only the fed and it's owners do. He will never see a second term after this coming crash

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 18:28:01 2018 No.10916855 >>10916792 I wouldn't underestimate him and the exploding market that we've seen since his election proof otherwise. He's not gonna save us but I bet you he can delay what's certainly coming.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 18:38:22 2018 No.10916997 My plan: - Hold muh stocks as they continue winning - If shit starts crashing, just fucking short every market in sight with inverse ETFs. cant-lose.jpg

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 18:41:53 2018 No.10917035 >>10916997 Already too late when shit is going down. But you will for sure outsmart the market, i believe in you anon. :')

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:08:03 2018 No.10917259 >>10915359 > race war > fiat savings accounts becoming worthless > rock hard erection at thought of fallout larp I knew this site was full of morons, but I didn't know the king of morons would post. Welcome, your majesty!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:10:32 2018 No.10917285 File: 76 KB, 1257x764, sergey.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10915359 Based and redpilled

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:10:47 2018 No.10917288 >>10912715 WOKE this guy >>10912667 is a fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:13:16 2018 No.10917309 >>10917288 Yep. And if the fed doesn't pull the balance sheet hyperinflation will soon set in. We are un-ironically fucked

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:15:16 2018 No.10917324 >>10915597 This. There is no room to implement monetary policies anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:16:18 2018 No.10917330 >>10916745 Trump will be the scapecoat

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:17:19 2018 No.10917340 >>10916997 Have fun shorting when they ban shorting like they did in 2008

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:25:17 2018 No.10917413 File: 62 KB, 989x741, signal-2018-06-19-172519.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10916997 "Can't lose" Holy shit you're a retard. Have fun shorting the market faster than the hft supercomputers

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:29:13 2018 No.10917451 >>10917413 NO they will ban shorting! goddamnit

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:31:53 2018 No.10917486 >>10912631 is bitcoin safe?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:33:39 2018 No.10917500 >>10917330 >Trump will be the scapecoat this is why (((they))) allowed him to be elected.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:37:10 2018 No.10917527 >>10917500 It's a theory, which I do not necessarily believe but it sounds like a very very very plausible outcome ""they"" will use when he was elected.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:38:21 2018 No.10917537 I like reading such stuff. Finally some people with real financial knowledge have joined us NEETs to educate us. Thanks guys. You will be here forever though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:39:18 2018 No.10917545 >>10917486 >stocks crash >gold crashes just like in 08 (LOOK AT THE CHART GODDAMNIT) >people/institutions/everyone losing money faster than they can count >"Hey I have an idea let's buy btc"...said literally no one

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:39:51 2018 No.10917552 >>10917330 This they will blame him and openly forbid parties that are even slightly right-leaning.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:40:34 2018 No.10917560 >>10917545 >not buying a worldwide tech currency when the worlds traditional systems go to shit KEK

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:45:00 2018 No.10917593 >>10917560 If everyone rushes into BTC during the crash the mempool will get overwhelmed and people will realize it's not fucking scaleable yet The price will crash and they will fomo into pms

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:45:49 2018 No.10917601 I only have 50k in gold I bought after 2008, yikes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:45:50 2018 No.10917602 So what’s the safest way to protect your money then? Gold?

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:46:13 2018 No.10917605
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>Every single thing, even things that are inversely-correlated, will soon crash with no survivors and you will somehow not be able to short successfully, nothin' you can do, everyone's gonna lose everything and die except me and the other preppers, better stock up on guns and food and watch out for niggers hurrrr"

I've been hearing all of this shit from masturbatory permapreppers for as long as I can remember..

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:46:39 2018 No.10917612 >>10917330 Exactly fucking this. The plan is clear as day. Trump will never see a second term. He's claiming complete credit for an economy he does not control

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:47:25 2018 No.10917619

>>10917560
>The financial sector completely collapes
>Far far worse than 07/08
>"Hey I have an idea...let's all just you know use blockchain this time...because you know that's where it's at"
>"How do you mean there is nothing left?"
>"But I told you to buy gold didn't you?"
>"Wait what it collapsed like it did during every crisis...ah ok..."
>"Wait crypto went to 0 because literally everyone cashed out to quickly buy commodities which at least have a sort of tangible value"
>"What do you mean btc isn't tangible...it's literally digital gold....oh wait"

Cmon anon, i've been in btc since 2015 and when it finally happens every single person will cash out into dollars and bankruns will happen. Do you really think that if we are in a situation where bankruns are at the order of the day that btc will go up? Cmon work with me here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:47:48 2018 No.10917622 >>10917605 And the day they're right will be the day you die and they and their genes survive. You will be selected out of the gene pool as a result of being a happy go lucky faggot with no foresight

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:48:25 2018 No.10917627 >>10917605 This. Always do the opposite of what /biz/ says

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:49:04 2018 No.10917636

>>10917619
Btc would moon if it were scaleable. Right now it's not and that's why it will get rekt during the next crash

Long term the crash will be good for crypto because it will force people start to intelligently questioning the fed. Short term very very bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:50:36 2018 No.10917650 >>10917636 Yes, long term it will. Tell me again how we are in it for the long term? This is a get rich quick scheme. I don't want to be rich when I am 50 (26 now btw).

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:56:21 2018 No.10917702 >>10917622 or he dies wealthy of natural causes because he wasn't paralyzed in fear of an unprecedented black swan

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 19:59:05 2018 No.10917724 >>10917330 >>10917552 >>10917612 Yep, I literally don't see any other way since I truly believe that it will happen in 2019 so what other choice than trump is there? Literally, there is nothing else to blame for (((them)))

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:10:43 2018 No.10917822 >>10912727 >The next one is going to be cataclysmic for savers, wiping out uninvested money greater than 100K brainlet here what the fuck do you mean ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:16:09 2018 No.10917871 >>10917324 >>10915597 USD 6M Libor is 2.5% , 10-year yields are 3% and FED is expecting to hike the rates even more. Eurozone could be caught as Euribor is still negative

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:18:24 2018 No.10917896

>>10917822
He's talking about haircuts just like happenned in Cyprus. Own more than 300k in a bank account? Then 200k is forfeit to the Government, and they'll let you keep the last 100k.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_Cypriot_financial_crisis

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:18:49 2018 No.10917900 >>10917871 Ah but if EU is no bueno, US is going to be no bueno

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:19:53 2018 No.10917912 >>10917896 Fucking hell, imagine that for a second. Work your whole life to have solid savings just to get it stolen from you in an instant without any reprocusions. Jesus fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:24:02 2018 No.10917950 >>10917912 "Savings" are grounds for punishment, and have been since Keynes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:24:46 2018 No.10917957 >>10912727 I was leaning more towards 2022. How severe exactly is anyone's guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:25:19 2018 No.10917965 >>10912727 buy physical gold

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:37:10 2018 No.10918059

>>10915359
I agree with pretty much everything you said. To anyone who's taken econ 101 and actually DYOR, it's obvious there's going to be a recession and it'll most likely start with a housing bubble burst. However, why wouldn't crypto moon?

>people will look for ways to hold on to the money they have saved up, should shit hit the fan
>stock market will fall due to boomers cashing out their savings/people panic selling
>fiat will lose its value/massive hyper inflation
>there's a finite supply of btc, eth, link, etc.
>crypto has real world applications that can add value (i.e. Blockchain, smart contracts, etc.)

My question is why wouldn't crypto moon? From the looks of things, it seems like the three areas you want to invest in are crypto, golf/silver, and foreign stocks in places with emerging markets that don't rely on the US, Canada, or Aus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:44:34 2018 No.10918125 >>10917965 But it is so expensive at the moment...any chance it will go to around 800-900 dollars per ounce within the next months ?

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:46:00 2018 No.10918128

>>10917900
ECB is aiming raise rates too, as Brits kept hiking them in the past year.

Eurozone is a different kind of beast too, as it's de facto Germany's mechanism to devalue their currency to export like mad. Not sure they could be able to export as much and keeping current account surplus by sticking to Deutsche Mark. DM would most likely be much stronger to dollar compared to current EURUSD. In case of turmoil, they'll most likely throw Greece, Italy, Spain and other laggers under the bus again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:49:00 2018 No.10918156 File: 547 KB, 1285x768, 20160612_bubble[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10912631 You know it to be true

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:49:06 2018 No.10918159 >>10917650 The crash will happen before 2020. Do you want to be broke at 28 nigger?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:50:38 2018 No.10918169 >>10917896 I would have fucking gone to the street with a machine gun if this happened. Cypriots are complete cucks

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:56:47 2018 No.10918214 >>10917724 http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/hear-what-peter-schiff-says-is-coming-next-theres-no-way-to-stop-this_02082018

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 20:59:20 2018 No.10918241 >>10917822 This will never happen in the Western World, don't worry. Anon you're responding to is not all there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 21:00:42 2018 No.10918251 >>10915999 Buy physical gold and take delivery. Buy silver if you want some risk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 21:02:42 2018 No.10918263 >>10917330 I knew he was a scapegoat the moment he announced his presidency. Whether or not he got elected was like some sort of Jewish litmus test whether or not the 2008 crash was enough. It was not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 21:19:35 2018 No.10918422 File: 108 KB, 900x900, 1-oz-silver-bar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10918251 Silver is going to 1k+ in the next crisis

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 21:23:28 2018 No.10918462

>>10918422

For retards :

One ounce silver = 15 dollars = 15 cheeseburgers (1 dollar per burger)

Inflation

One ounce = 15.000 dollars = 15 cheeseburgers (1000 dollars per burger)

Physical stacks of metals are for CONSERVING wealth not for getting rich

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 21:27:10 2018 No.10918488 >>10918462 Under normal economic conditions I agree. But in the popping of the largest fiat everything bubble Ponzi in human history, they will make you rich. Very very rich

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 21:48:22 2018 No.10918688 >>10918422 >>10918462 Both of these people are right. Metals are still a good hedge, but keep it under 10% of your portfolio.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 22:03:38 2018 No.10918830 >>10913384 They are being sold a socialist utopia by a bunch of capitalists. This isnt even our final form

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 22:05:58 2018 No.10918847 >>10915786 bond market is rip.

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 22:12:54 2018 No.10918911

>>10912727
>this anon mentions bail-ins
W O K E. Do you have any details on broker dealers and contracts? I haven't really figured out anything for these cases, since life insurance policies have a contractual "Guarantee." I figure that places like Fidelity are going to be pretty safe since the mutual funds are independent and "owners" of the company and not the other way around. This bail-in shit is absolutely fucked.

>>10915999
this >>10918251
You can also diversify with a good whole life insurance policy as well, assuming I'm correct. You will want to make it something like a fixed 10 payment. Usually LI companies are involved in the bond markets, but I really don't know what would happen when the everything bubble pops. I do know that some of the LI companies have huge reserves of cash. It'd be like if Bitcoin was considered a company and then miners were considered to be in a partnership. It'd be absolutely mental and nothing would really be off the table.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 22:14:25 2018 No.10918923 >>10918911 sorry, i think that's vanguard's structure, not fidelity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 23:21:15 2018 No.10919457 >>10918923 you killed a good thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 23:23:28 2018 No.10919477 File: 9 KB, 221x228, 1535677859190.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10912631 soon i hope youre on the right side of the cubicle wall when it happens

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 23:27:13 2018 No.10919505

>>10919457
this shit is 200% mental, and if anons can't figure out this problem we're all fucked and just putting our prayers on crypto. There have been policies enacted worldwide that let a FAILING COMPANY force ownership of that company on its "unsecured lenders" for liquidity. It's an absolute nightmare from all points of view.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 23:34:13 2018 No.10919554 >>10918911 You don't want your money in an insurance company if there is a financial collapse. You do know insurance companies can go bankrupt and then you are just another creditor behind all the creditors when that happens.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 23:36:31 2018 No.10919574 I do think there is a big reset coming and the big question is how do you preserve your money and get it to the other side of the reset.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 23:39:00 2018 No.10919593 >>10916274 >implying the average person has off shore bank accounts you blow in from stupid town?

Anonymous Sat Sep 1 23:46:43 2018 No.10919640

>>10919554
>just another creditor behind all the creditors
that's what i figure, considering that a majority of creditors are corporations and banks. the only thing that makes it different is that you're:
>not an unsecured lender
>you have a contractual "guarantee"
It's weak, and i'd guess that you're probably better to put faith in bitcoin, gold, and mutual funds if you're going to be that paranoid. I'm pissed that my only solution to keep liquid money safe has been to spread money around to multiple institutions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 23:49:14 2018 No.10919655 search for Bespoke Tranche Opportunity

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 23:50:28 2018 No.10919666 The market will crash when the aliens show up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 23:53:24 2018 No.10919686 >>10919640 I am super paranoid. If I thought we were headed for normal market financial conditions then investing in annuities would be okay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 1 23:55:59 2018 No.10919715 >>10919640 Also, you could just buy T bills through your brokerage account. I'm hoping the US government doesn't collapse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 00:02:21 2018 No.10919753 >>10919715 I assume the best way to go about the T-Bills would look like laddering CDs? I'm trying to keep myself 75% USD and US companies and 25% in alternatives like PM and crypto. the term "bail-in" gets me riled up.

Anonymous Sun Sep 2 00:18:05 2018 No.10919835

>>10919753
Yeah ladder. You can just keep rolling over into 12 month t bills. Also, I think bank accounts will be okay if kept under the FDIC coverage which is usually $250k. Although who really knows because the FDIC doesn't have enough money to cover a systemwide collapse. It's all kinda a big pyramid scheme.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 00:22:15 2018 No.10919865 File: 86 KB, 921x637, 360F01CC-5C36-420A-9524-81E90B60DE39.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10912631 Less than a year

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 00:26:08 2018 No.10919889 >>10912631 Looks like it’s overdue. Just depends on when the whales decide it’s time to dump the pump.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 00:31:54 2018 No.10919928 I'm just a regular 28 year old guy and I don't know WHAT THE FUCK is going on or is going to happen.

Anonymous Sun Sep 2 00:35:22 2018 No.10919952

Also, as per the title of the thread; 2008 level recession. Was there even a recession in recent history? I've been around for a little while and from what I can remember there hasn't really been anything bad happen at all. A few top tier people complained about doing rates on this and that and I'm sure some people and some companies went broke, but overall it seems like it's been pretty smooth sailing since like forever.

Anonymous Sun Sep 2 00:41:11 2018 No.10919988

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that life will go on just like it has since forever; no surprises here; I actually think that even if a few high-up people TRIED to rock the system that it would just adapt like everything else, think about it, we were like dumb apes for a huuuuge chunk of our previous existence, and even with all of that RAW shit nature could throw at us we still sailed smoothly into the present. Now we're HEAPS smarter, what could possibly ROCK US TO THE CORE LIKE NOTHING ELSE? We're too smart for that shit now. Everyone just sit back, relax. There is no need to worry, every little thing gonna be alright.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 01:47:02 2018 No.10920487 >>10917552 As if there's more than 2 parties? The republican/democrat duo will continue until this entire shitshow crumbles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 02:04:03 2018 No.10920589 >biz finally agrees with me after I've been saying this shit was unsustainable for the past 2 years God damn

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 03:37:45 2018 No.10921086 >>10920589 2 year ago: >it's totally unsustainable Today: >it's totally unsustainable In 2 years: >it's totally unsustainable Pardon me, anon, but by unsustainable do you mean ongoing and sustainable?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 03:40:33 2018 No.10921101 >>10918488 when everything is in a bubble nothing really is in a bubble.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 05:33:20 2018 No.10921732 >>10921101 That's deep. And wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 06:33:34 2018 No.10922111 >>10921101 Salaries are not in a bubble. It's not an 'everything bubble', it's an 'everything else bubble'

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 06:36:57 2018 No.10922131 >>10913318 Literally the opposite of what you said is true, but ok champ. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/boom-times-83-execs-say-business-is-better-76-see-more-growth

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 06:57:44 2018 No.10922253 so what should one do to prep for the next crisis? will crypto moon when the crash happens?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 07:02:57 2018 No.10922291 >>10922131 fake news

Anonymous Sun Sep 2 07:09:56 2018 No.10922336

>>10918241
It will happen in Australia. The already passed the laws for it earlier this year.

We've got a massive property bubble ready to burst

https://www.ainsliebullion.com.au/gold-silver-bullion-news/senate-passes-e2-80-98bail-in-e2-80-99-law-e2-80-93-how-safe-is-your-cash-now-/tabid/88/a/1722/default.aspx
http://cecaust.com.au/releases/2018_02_16_Govt_APRA.html

Anonymous Sun Sep 2 07:15:03 2018 No.10922372

>>10922253
>will crypto moon when the crash happens?
What I expect to happen is that crypto will crash at the same time, as many who are just using it for trading discover they don't have cash on hand.

But ONCE that immediate crash is over, crypto will recover far faster and harder as those who are unaffected pile in - there's blood in the streets.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 07:21:25 2018 No.10922402 >>10919593 yeah I guess they don't, but anyone reading this thread should. Personally have accounts in 6 countries

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 07:24:42 2018 No.10922415 >>10922372 Hi newfag, check out Cyprus banking in '13 correlate with BTC chart.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 07:25:43 2018 No.10922420 >>10922402 how do you get those offshore account if most banks require you to be a resident

Anonymous Sun Sep 2 07:32:12 2018 No.10922459

>>10922420
Well it is probably harder for US citizens. For europeans there are several non resident accounts, for example Barclays in UK or Isle of Man, Falcon Bank, Dukascopy and more in Switzerland and even easier several mobile banks in different countries that you can open in 10 minutes

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 07:35:24 2018 No.10922481 >>10918462 The intent was to preserve wealth. I was responding to someone who was worried about keeping his money in the bank.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 2 10:27:21 2018 No.10923562 Civil war in America within the next 10 years.

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