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>> No.10991
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nobody else $TSLA here?

>> No.11067

>>10991

Shorted Tesla a couple of days ago; I was starting to get sad

>> No.11093
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>>11067
might be a cool time to buy before they go up after earnings call next week

>> No.11088

>>10907
Cars set on fire all the time. Does anyone care if a Chevy burns? The first fire wasn't even Tesla's fault.

>> No.11108

Would it even rise if I buy it low?

>> No.11117
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>>11088
doesn't matter who's at fault, the market is going to react regardless because ev fires = spooky

>>11108
earnings call next week, production and revenue numbers for Q4 exceeded estimates so it's looking to be exclusively good news

>> No.11154

>>11117
We'll have to wait for the investigation report then.

>> No.11174

>>11093

Yeah, I'll cover for sure tomorrow. Don't know about going long, though. Many companies have been posting decent earnings and I still see their stock price tumble, and I'm skeptic that they will be the exception.

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>>11154
inconclusive, it's never coming. germany cleared it over a weekend, nhtsa has gone full potato.

>>11174
I'm in for the long run but if the drop is more than my trade commission sell+buy break even point then I usually go for it. never had a loss yet, been in since $60.

>> No.11330
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>mfw this is an attempt at mass hysteria on behalf of the oil companies shitting bricks at the prospect of becoming irrelevant in the near future.

>> No.11334

>>11252
Congratulations, anon. I've always been hesitant of buying because of my fear of larger automakers getting serious and coming in the market and squashing out Tesla.

But that's what they said about Amazon and Wal-mart in regards to online shopping...

>> No.11352

http://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-blog-post-on-tesla-fires-2013-11

>There are now substantially more than the 19,000 Model S vehicles on the road that were reported in our Q3 shareholder letter for an average of one fire per at least 6,333 cars, compared to the rate for gasoline vehicles of one fire per 1,350 cars. By this metric, you are more than four and a half times more likely to experience a fire in a gasoline car than a Model S! Considering the odds in the absolute, you are more likely to be struck by lightning in your lifetime than experience even a non-injurious fire in a Tesla.
>you are more likely to be struck by lightning in your lifetime than experience even a non-injurious fire in a Tesla.
>trying this hard

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>>11352

How can one man be so based, /biz/?

>> No.11410
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>>11391
>mfw he takes SpaceX public in the next decade

>> No.11411

>>11330
this, fucking pathetic propaganda bullshit

>> No.11535

>>11330
with the amount of plastics in cars i'd say they're pretty safe

>> No.11550

A used telsa is currently more expensive than a new one due to supply<demand

>Musk being highest paid ceo

>> No.11610
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>>11410
>tfw free market takes us to space

>> No.11614

>>10907
You know, I kinda want a Tesla vehicle. Should I be genuinely worried about a housefire or is it all anti-competitive propaganda being spread around by the competition?

>> No.11620

>>11610

>Free market
>Space X uses NASA labs and equipment and is partially funded by the U.S.

It's definitely not the Free Market. It's basically just NASA's way of getting shit done without having to worry about government funding entirely.

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>>11610
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TFvCy_x8dc

>Humans on Mars in 10-12 years

>> No.11628

>>11620
>>Space X uses NASA labs and equipment and is partially funded by the U.S.
So?

If we had a free market with deflationary currency, prices would be so low that basic research like this would be everywhere. Everyone would have an abundance of savings to invest in basic research if the wanted to.

>> No.11641

>>11614
I'd bank on the latter. If you view fire incidence compared to total vehicles on the streets, Tesla actually comes in better than some other brands (I think GM was one of those listed, not sure).

>> No.11655

>>11628

Just wanted to keep you straight. Shit ain't free market in any way.

And

>Wanting a market with deflationary currency
>2014

>>>/pol/

>> No.11657

>>11330
Daily reminder that this is not wild speculation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ev1

>> No.11659

>>11620
>Space X uses NASA labs and equipment
where do you get that from? They have their own command center, launch pads, their own assembly lines etc. What are they sharing with NASA when conducting their private launches?

>and is partially funded by the U.S.
that funding goes towards rockets that serve NASA missions. This is no different from any other contract arrangement.

>> No.11687

>>11659

>They have their own command center, launch pads, their own assembly lines

All donated by NASA

And the funding is more than contracts, they have shit tons of 'loans' that have no time limit. They're basically a financial backer at this point.

>> No.11695

>>11655
>>Wanting a market with deflationary currency
Fuck yes I do. I want everyone to be lifted out of poverty.


>>>/pol/
You go back to /pol. Economics is one of the reasons /biz/ exists.

>> No.11721

>>11695
Explain to me how a deflationary currency will bring everyone out of poverty.

>> No.11728

>>11687
>All donated by NASA

you got a fucking source for that?

I'm considering the fact that elon started the company with a healthy portion of his own fortune invested, and they were also financed by draper fisher jurvetson and are reported to be extremely profitable. I don't think any "donations" were involved.

>> No.11734

>>11721

I didn't reply to >>11695 because I didn't want to get off topic in this thread. Please delete your post and I'll delete mine.

>> No.11744

>>11734
No, I want to explain your ideas to me.

>> No.11747

>>11610
>The aftermath of the 2012 election
lost it

>> No.11760

>>11610
>free market takes us to space
how would this actually work? fucking seriously asking. the amount of capital needed to get to that point is just too much for any single company or group of companies to bare at this point

>> No.11761

>>11728

http://www.space.com/23963-spacex-leases-historic-nasa-launch-pad.html

There's one. I just typed in "Space X Nasa" and that popped up. They 'leased it', but they barely payed anything. It was a trivial amount.

>> No.11763

>>11721
>Explain to me how a deflationary currency will bring everyone out of poverty.
Prices come down
Wages go up
The cost of capital comes down so everyone and his sister can start a business if they wanted to

Mass production.

inb4 hurrr muh deflationary spiral
http://mises.org/daily/4618/

>> No.11773

>>11763

>Posts a mises link

now I know you need to >>>/pol/

>> No.11774

>>11760
>the amount of capital needed to get to that point is just too much for any single company or group of companies to bare at this point
That's why prices for capital goods have to come down dramatically, that's why we need to mass produce resources in order to do this, then it would be far easier for companies to do this.

The government is just wasting resources and not producing shit.

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>>11773
>now I know you need to >>>/pol/
Get the fuck off /biz/

This is an economics board.
Sorry you cannot refute the article.

>> No.11788

Im kinda sus about such a bad set of headlines from tesla if you look at there history they have frequently been muscled by government agencies and legislators, they tried to put the owner away on drummed up coke charges, shit just seems obvious, maybe im paranoid, but there is totally something going on with these DEA chemists

>> No.11790

>>11761
leasing a launch pad is hardly what you described as "using nasa labs and equipment". Not exactly a 'donation' either.

Thanks for confirming that you have no idea what you're talking about, faggot.

>> No.11792

>>11657
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ev1
>While customer reaction to the EV1 was positive, GM believed that electric cars occupied an unprofitable niche of the automobile market, and ended up crushing all their electric cars, regardless of protesting customers.[6] Furthermore, an alliance of the major automakers litigated the CARB regulation in court, resulting in a slackening of the ZEV stipulation, permitting the companies to produce super-low-emissions vehicles, natural gas vehicles, and hybrid cars in place of pure electrics. The EV1 program was subsequently discontinued in 2002, and all cars on the road were repossessed.
>and all cars on the road were repossessed.
>all cars on the road were repossessed.
What in the actual fuck. I seriously have no confidence in our ability to progress if we have such anti-competitive jews pushing everything back by a few decades purely for the sake of greed

>> No.11802

>>11773
>waaah he's posting an economics link on an economics board
You guys aren't allowed to whine about that anymore, this isn't /v/ or /g/.

>> No.11808

>>11774
>The government is just wasting resources and not producing shit.
Hence my sentiment above. It really is disheartening.

>> No.11814

>>11802
>>11782

>Mises
>Anything resembling a good economics website

I'll continue to laugh

>> No.11823

>>11790

Fuck man, just do the research. I'm not gonna be arsed to.

>> No.11829

>>11792
To me, the worst part isn't actually that they repossessed them, it's that they destroyed them completely after doing so, just so that they couldn't be studied by anyone else.

>> No.11851

>>11829
>it's that they destroyed them completely after doing so, just so that they couldn't be studied by anyone else.
Exactly. Fucking hell. This seriously pisses me off.

>> No.11859

>>11823
I've already done all my research on SpaceX you sad cunt. You get your facts straight.

>> No.11948

>>11352
> However, there is a larger issue at stake: if a false perception about the safety of electric cars is allowed to linger, it will delay the advent of sustainable transport and increase the risk of global climate change, with potentially disastrous consequences worldwide. That cannot be allowed to happen.

this nigga knows what's up

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posting all of my $TSLA sources for you /biz/raelites. let's hope for a green day to finish off the week.

https://www.google.ca/finance?q=NASDAQ%3ATSLA&ei=HjSeUoiyJsODrQG4nAE
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TSLA
https://research.tdameritrade.com/grid/public/stocks/overview/overview.asp?fromPage=overview&display=&fromSearch=true&symbol=TSLA
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/time-sales
http://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=tsla
https://twitter.com/elonmusk
https://twitter.com/TeslaMotors
http://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/new/
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/forumdisplay.php/119-TSLA-Investor-Discussions
http://stocktwits.com/symbol/TSLA?q=tsla
http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/tsla

>> No.12627

>>11535
plastic components = giving them a fish
>gasoline dependence = keeping them trolling the ocean floor

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>>12627
precisely this

>> No.12713

>>12667
Is that plugged into a 110v outlet? It looks like a 220 box is above it

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t-3hr

>> No.13960

you guys really don't think this was staged, and the owners of these two teslas paid off by oil companies? come on.

>> No.14119

>>13960
I don't think it was staged, but it's definitely blown out of proportion.

Maybe the oil companies pay off the media outlets to make a bigger deal out of it than they should. They know this shit hurts the stock price, I'm wondering what we're going to see today because that Toronto fire article went around last night.

>> No.14146

>>14119
I think people in general just like hearing scary stories about new fangled electric cars not being as good as good old reliable American gas guzzlers.

I'll wait to hear the report. Worst case scenario sounds like that it may have been caused by the wall charger, which can be replaced/retrofitted if need be without too much hassle. No need for car recalls or anything.

I understand Teslas are 5x less likely to catch fire than the average gas car and when they do it's safer. I don't see tesla in any real danger here.

>> No.14205

It's so funny because other car mfg's get a bunch of car fires each year. Now, for some reason, when a couple Teslas catch fire due to shit on the road and whatnot, people flip the fuck out. I hate the stock market. I took my money out and I'm investing in some cheap property to rent on airbnb.com

>> No.14227

>>14205
sounds like you hate the media more than the stock market. If what you say is right then just take the chance to buy some cheap TSLA shares while they dip.

>> No.14257

>>10907
WAIT FOR IT TO GO DOWN AND BUY BUY BUY BUY

>> No.14422
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>> No.14526

>>14257
How long will that take?

>> No.14553

>>14422
god i love this comic and any variation on it

>> No.14554

>>14422
>driver perfectly safe
>passenger area not even damaged
>no explosion
>fire safely contained in front battery cell or two.
>5 times less likely to catch fire than gas car in general

If I'm ever in a car that catches fire I'd rather it be a tesla.