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10740385 No.10740385 [Reply] [Original]

Why haven't you accepted the only real crypto as the new bitcoin?

>> No.10740404

>>10740385
Do not, I repeat DO NOT buy monero. You have been warned.

>> No.10740410

>>10740385
because I'm here to make money. xmr is the only true private cryptocurrency but zcash will likely have better returns rest of year

>> No.10740416

>>10740410
>buying zcrap
id rather buy stocks if i wanted boomer returns

>> No.10740424

>>10740404

This. Don't buy for reasons. Keep the price low while i accumulate plz

>> No.10740428

>>10740404
>>10740410

no ones gonna buy your ztrash bags

>> No.10740452

>>10740416
>>10740428
zioncash will have several news driven pumps this year. there's a reason why this is the only coin gemini has added since ethereum. the winklevii know.

>> No.10740468

>>10740452
ZTRASH ZTRASH ZTRASH ZTRASH ZTRASH ZTRASH ZTRASH ZTRASH ZTRASH ZTRASH

>> No.10740475

How many moneroj will i need to make a million?

>> No.10740476

>>10740385
Isn't ZEC better tho?

>> No.10740482

>>10740468
remember this thread when coinbase announces zcash support in the next two weeks. i'll buy monero when i'm already rich.

>> No.10740490

>>10740476
ztrash has a secret ztrash printing machine that they promised they destroyed a long time ago but only actual retards believe that anyone would destroy such a thing, otherwise why would they have created it in the first place? plus it isn't fungible and only 3% of ztrash transactions use the private feature which takes forever to use and isn't user friendly. monero has privacy by default

>> No.10740492
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10740492

>Monero claims to be private
>wallet can be cracked by a child
>when you point this out, Monero hodlers have cataclysmic aneurysms

>> No.10740494

>>10740482
enjoy your 50% gains while every shitcoin out there is pumping 600%

>> No.10740498

>>10740490
>>10740476
plus ztrash founders never offered proof that they destroyed it.

>>10740482
monero will be used by the people like alex jones who are censored. once paypal and visa stop doing business with him he isn't going to use zcrap, he'll use monero

>> No.10740506

>>10740492
>he actually believes this

lmao i didn't know they made autism that potent

>> No.10740511

>>10740492

You DERO shills are absolutely fucking intolerable. Only computer autists even know what the fuck you just posted. Fuck off

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10740518

>>10740506
>don't refute argument
>"H-HE ACTUALLY B-B-BELIEVES THIS?!?!?! ahahahahaha......HAHAHAHAH
>BY THE WAY DERO IS A SCAM :^)

>> No.10740527

>>10740498
>monero will be used by the people like alex jones who are censored. once paypal and visa stop doing business with him he isn't going to use zcrap, he'll use monero
yes i'm sure that's more likely to happen in the next month than my scenario.

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10740531

>>10740511
>Y-Y-YOU S-S-SCAMMER S-SHILLS ARE C-C-CUMPUTER AUTISTS MONERO IS S-S-AFU!
>DERO P-PAJEETS!
>PAJEEEEEEETS!

>> No.10740541
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10740541

>>10740518
no one even knows what "dero" is or whatever scam coin you're talking about. sounds like another wanna-be monero

>> No.10740558

>>10740531
i just looked up dero AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA RANK 818 HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH AND YOU COMPARE IT TO MONERO A TOP 10 COIN AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

>> No.10740560
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10740560

>>10740541
>N-NO ONE EVEN KNOW WHAT D-D-DERO IS BECAUSE IT'S A SCAM
>NO S-S-S-SERIOUSLY IT'S A-A-SCAM GUYS! A SCAM!
>NOBODY KNOW WHAT IT IS
>BUT IT'S A SCAM

>SCAAAAAAAAAAM!

>> No.10740565

>>10740527

Coinbsse adoption isn't really that big of a deal. It's a well known event that the market has mostly already priced in.

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10740570

>>10740558
>L-LITTLE WITTLE W-W-WHITE DERO HOW CAN P-PUNY MARKETCAP S-SCAMCOIN COMPETE WITH C-C-COMPLETELY SAFU TOP 3 CHADCOIN
>B-B-BY THE WAY DERO IS A SCAM P-PLS BELIEVE ME GUYS ;^)

>> No.10740581

>>10740385
mb turtles? turtles are nice, and owls...

>> No.10740583

>>10740565
It's a guaranteed 20%+ move with upside for more. I did well swing trading ETC since they first announced it for coinbase, now i'm going to play it the same with zec and xlm. I'm really not an xmr hater, just think there's better opportunities right now.

>> No.10740605

>>10740570
>>10740560
>volume: $3,600

LMAO IT'S VOLUME IS THE PRICE OF A USED CAR LOOOL IT'S A DEAD SHIT COIN LMFAO BRUHHHHHH IT'S DEAD

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10740608

>>10740570

Calm the fuck down sperglord. You've managed to absolutely kill any potential interest people would have had in your garbagecoin.

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10740636

>post Dero in Monero thread
>accompany posts with smug anime grills
>Monero posters FLIP. THE. HELL. OUT.

I wish you faggots would actually address the flaws with your coin's technology instead of scam shaming everyone that comes in and tries to present a constructive argument. You fags are worse than LINK posters, because at least LINK posters know about their project whereas all you Monero posters can do is spam "muh privacy"

>> No.10740647

>>10740385
>real crypto
>new bitcoin

Pick 1 faggot

>> No.10740681

>>10740583
>I'm really not an xmr hater

You said everything you needed to say earlier when you said you'd buy monero when you're rich. I don't disagree with your short term analysis on zcash considering the institutional investment, but at the end of the day it sounds like you acknowledge monero is the ultimate king of privacy coins

>> No.10740732

>>10740681
it's the only private & fungible coin with any usage and liquidity. it's will be the best form of digital cash once bullet proofs come in september

>>10740636
you're retarded

>> No.10740751

>>10740732
>you're retarded
>it's will be the best form of digital cash once bullet proofs come in september
>it's will be

And by the way, Dero already has bulletproofs as do many other coins, so I don't see why Monero getting bulletproofs makes any difference.

>> No.10740780

>>10740565
So coinbase exploring adding coins is being taken as a guarantee that they will add?
Didn't they say the same about bitcoin gold?

>> No.10740811

>>10740751
>i've never made a typo in my entire life
lol ok

dude you keep saying dero like it's relevant. when a coin has a few thousands dollars of volume that means like 2 people are trading it, it's fucking dead, i'm pretty sure bitconnect has more volume

>> No.10740844

>>10740811
>the first crypto project that has a fully working BlockDAG
>"not relevant"

Calling a coin irrelevant because it's current volume is low shows is pretty sad.

>> No.10740857

>>10740844
it's not low volume, it's zero volume. you're talking about a coin that lived for like a month and died. coins can die ya know, just like bitconnect.

>> No.10740868

>>10740385

> slower than Bitcoin
> FBI honeypot
> Doesn't scale

I wonder why.

>> No.10740872

>>10740857
Bitconnect is a literal exit scam. Dero is still building its code and has had zero marketing done yet.

>> No.10740894

>>10740868
except it's not slower than bitcoin, and with bulletproofs next month it will be faster than it is now

>open source code being examined by thousands of people across the world
>honey pot

pick one

>doesn't scale
it hasn't had the opportunity to scale because it hasn't reached any significant amount of people yet

>> No.10740895

>>10740857

So telling me why no one dumping it more faggots ?

>> No.10740902

>>10740894

FBI use it to catch Pedo and Money launderer.

>> No.10740910

>>10740872
no one in the world but you and a few other people have even heard of dero, you can't compare a coin ranked #10 in the world you bag holding autist

>>10740895
can't really go any lower

>> No.10740923

>>10740902
prove it. oh wait, you can't because you just made that up

>> No.10740924

>>10740910
You sound salty.

>> No.10740933

>>10740910

20k DERO are produce each day why no one seeling them ?

>> No.10740936

>>10740924
you sound broke

>> No.10740943

>>10740933
there's no one left to buy them, that's why volume is non existant. the buy orders for dero are offering like 1 cent per so no one can sell

>> No.10740949

>paying multiple dollars per transaction just because the miners don't give a fuck and the devs are incompetent
no thx

>> No.10740958

>>10740943

Check books orders before telling shit, and BTW Chinese like DERO so much you don't have any Idea.

>> No.10740983

>>10740385
Cause Verge XVG will overthrow Monero at some point

>> No.10740987

>>10740636
How does TCP-IP cause a vulnerability in Monero technically? Vs secure sockets. Is it only possible with a man in the middle attack? Genuinely curious here, also bit of a brainlet, so might not have even asked the right questions

>> No.10740998

>>10740983
XVG is beter than XMR, but inferior to PIVX.

>> No.10741021

>>10740987

Monero Wallet doesn't use any SSL/TLS layer to encrypt transaction, so technycally an Agen in a VAN could niff your wallet with an MITM attack. Or in some country with hostile gvt to Crypto, they could trace you.

>> No.10741052

>>10740949
>what are bullet proofs
>what does an 80% cheaper transaction fee cost after bulletproofs go live next month

questions you should probably ask yourself

>> No.10741068

>>10741021
lmao you think the govt is gonna be around everyone in vans all the time? if this became a problem monero would just implement a fix, but it's not a problem and probably won't ever be one for 99% of people. maybe high profile targets might need to be careful where they are when sending/receiving but other than that, no..

>> No.10741081

>>10741052

TX (Transaction) are cheaper because size of TX are smaller in size (KB), Bullet proofs stand for : Tiny Evidence. (it's same thing that Zcash use but without any trusted hardware)

>> No.10741089

>>10741068

Don't care about 99%, just saying Monero don't take security and Privacy seriously, that a huge trust issue.

>> No.10741097

>>10741021
How difficult would it be for the devs to implement that feature? Also, can't a saavy user prevent MITM attacks with caution? I would think that if Monero had extreme vulnerabilities like this, then we would hear about hacks all the time, no? It could really only take one hacking incident to cause an uproar in the community.

>> No.10741121

>>10741097

That not a hack vulnerabilities issue, but a tracking issue in the wallet. If you work for an ISP you could put a filter to detect instantly who use Monero or any unsafe crypto wallet.

Well if you are Venezuelan or Saudi, you should be in danger for using Monero right now.

>> No.10741135

>>10741121
So what other privacy projects fix that? Are there any that are far enough along in development to compete with XMR?

>> No.10741151

>>10741135

Right now : Dero and Zencash.

But Zencash use only Secure Node and wallet isn't safe too, only with Dero the entire Network and Official wallets CLI and GUI use SSL/TLS 1.2.

>> No.10741154

zcoin is the real deal

>> No.10741160

>>10741089
they don't take movie scene hypothetical rare scenarios into account? yeah huge trust issue man

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10741170

>>10741151
thanks for the info

>> No.10741189

>>10740492
>>10740518
>>10740531
>>10740560
>>10740570
>>10740636
>>10740751
>>10740844
>>10740872
>>10740924
>that samefag shilling Scamdero in every Monero thread
Heavy bags, anon? You should sell them as soon as possible.

>> No.10741199

>>10741160

Playing with your security and privacy is playing with your life.

You should be a fool to put your trust into a bunch of Hobbyist coders, Wasn't Snowden that said something similar about this subject already ?

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10741203

>>10741189
>provide a highly logical and informative counter-argument
>H-HEAVY BAGS ANON? HMM???
>SCAMDERO IS A SCAM AAAAAAAAAH

>> No.10741218

>>10741203
Everybody always refute you and this scam. But you always keep telling "MUH, NO ARGUMENTS!"

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10741384

>>10741218
>Everybody always refute you and this scam.
>"How so?"
>DERO IS A SCAM

Good argument.

>> No.10741448

>>10740492
>Monero wallet can be cracked
Your pic shows an ssl packet from dero and a http response from monerod. The monero daemon provides a jsonrpc API which can also be disabled.
Now explain to me how a monero wallet can be 'cracked' because of this.

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10741493

>>10741448

Cracked:
> no

Privacy issue:
Yes, a government could find who use crypto in their country and when = Evidences. Could be used against yourself and get your ass stuck in jail or worse : be beheaded.

>> No.10741552

>>10741493
I agree, but even if your using ssl your isp can still see to which IPs you are connected. So dero has the same privacy issue as monero. But there is a project called kovri that should solve this problem.

>> No.10741657

>>10741552

Hmmm, I've just watched the video on the website.
Look likes Kovri is just an embedded TOR protocol, you'll still put the first IP router on a watchlist and if you connect to it wou'll be identified like a Monero User.

>> No.10741786

>>10741657
Yes a government that uses deep packet inspection like China could know you are using kovri. But kovri isn't only for monero. It could also be used for anonymous messages and hidden sites.
So you could say that you did use kovri but didn't use monero.
I don't think a perfect solution for this problem will ever exist. A powerful government could always try to identify crypto users.

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10741787

>>10741384
>one single pool has 95% of network hash rate
kek
There's nothing to be refuted.

>> No.10742016

>>10741787

You can solo mine to support the network, pool aren't mandatory.

>> No.10742120

>>10741657
it's not a tor protocolyou absolute brainlet. this just goes to show how much of a retard you actually are

I doubt you work in IT.

Korvi is an I2P protocol, not a fucking lol TOR protocol, that's the retarded protocol for super tardino project like verge to use.


when you get on to an i2p network you don't have an IP address anymore.

It's not TOR.

absotard.

>> No.10742401

>>10742120

Hey dogshit I told I just watch the vids.

And how the fuck tunneling like the Russian dolls with a new bunch of keys between each node isn't similar to the Onion Routing ?

>> No.10742600
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10742600

Monero is the only crypto that makes sense, private as cash.

>> No.10743124

shitcoin

>> No.10743145

>new bitcoin
obviously not, all it would take is bitcoin or a second layer adding privacy, which is not as difficult as monero shills would have you believe (privacy at the base layer is cryptographically meaningless when payments stay in the same layer, as they will in the future).

privacy is a feature not a product, monero is your only choice today, but all it takes is btc, maybe eth add privacy as the feature it is, and monero loses it's only reason for existence. monero is a utility coin for using, not an investment.