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One of the last concerns I had about the CL project was the transferring of Link after each data request and the attendant network congestion as the Link token itself needs ETH/gas to be moved from one asset holder to another.

From Thomas Hodges today in the telegram:

"- Requesters will need to use LINK in order to create and fund their requests for external data
- Node operators will use LINK to provide as a penalty deposit
- Node operators are paid in LINK, funded by the requester for fulfilling data requests

Finally, all transferring of balances once the request is made occurs within the oracle contract. The oracle contract keeps the balanace of all nodes deposits, requesters funded amounts, penalty deposits etc. When requests are fulfilled, instead of doing a token transfer each time, balances are updated within the contract and made available for withdrawl."

So basically only have to interact with ETH when withdrawing your sum total of a time period's worth of payments or initially funding. Which puts to rest the last issue I had in my due diligence on LINK.

Is this real boys? We're just gonna sit here for the next 12 months circlejerking and shitposting while we get rich? What a time to be alive.

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>> No.10692750

>>10692703
Definitely not as important of information as the recent openlaw stuff, but still interesting to those who are digging deep.

For me that's it- I've spent 6 months trying to poke a hole in this thing and can't. Maybe there are smarter anons here who can, but I yield.

CL 1K EOY

>> No.10692816

>>10692683

Thank you for sharing!

>> No.10692862

>>10692750
So, what do you think are the chances of us making it?

>> No.10692884

>>10692862
You’ve already made it anon. You just have to be patient

>> No.10692911

>>10692683
>Is this real boys? We're just gonna sit here for the next 12 months circlejerking and shitposting while we get rich? What a time to be alive.
It is indeed. We were always going to make it brother.

>> No.10692915

>>10692862
My general estimation is anything early stage is 50/50 because of unforeseeable externalities and goes down for each potential flaw.
Since I started looking at CL I can't find any killers (last one was OP) and the team has exceeded development milestones always underpromising and overdelivering.

I dunno, 75%?
Only thing I think people are at risk of is the normal human failures: everyone thinks that residual sell pressure and real life aren't things in their investment. There are guys eating oatmeal to buy LINK. Those guys will sell at $5 or $10 (and rightly so). Biggest hurdle to making it is probably the investors own impatience at this point.

>> No.10692972

>>10692915
i rather live under a bridge for 5 years before i sell under 100$

>> No.10693088

I believe one should keep doing research to acquire knowledge in order to gain the confidence needed for patience. Doubtfulness is what brought you here in the first place, but don't let it live where it shouldn't. Channel your anxiousness towards something positive. -Ra

>> No.10693096

On a side note they upgraded the token contract to handle passing both ether and data IIRC so that should help with load concerns as well

>> No.10693126

This is actually bearish for chainlink.

>> No.10693541

Withdrawal will still cause congestion

>> No.10693602

Please redpill me on staking nodes stuff. I have contributed a lot of valuable research on the business side of ChainLink but I'm tech illiterate.

>> No.10693608

>>10692683
Owning 100k of this is surreal, I am going to be a millionaire in the future. It's going to happen. God bless you all.

>> No.10694393

>>10693088
Didn't you say you'd never post again a few hours ago in another thread?

>> No.10694468

Please let 14k be enough. I hope we all make it

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Big tech companies are trying to solve this problem since before you born, faggot

Do you really think that a FAT philosophy major can?

>> No.10694777

>>10694393
Yeah. Guess I'll just move on from research posting towards more philosophical content.

>> No.10694800

>>10693088
>>10694777
Taking this as an approval

>> No.10694803

>>10694516
Damn, you know your shit.
I appreciate the research you've put into this, and thank you for sharing it. I hope others seriously consider your warning.

>> No.10694866

>>10694800
Please don't.

>> No.10694887

>>10694803
I love this pasta

>> No.10694890

>>10694800
Checked

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OP can you please explain for the low IQ people? If im understanding right, all these payout transactions happen within the contract instead of on ETH, that way eth wont get congested?

>> No.10694944

>>10694908
Correct anon.

To RA: pls don't leave.

>> No.10695035

>>10693126
Why...?

>> No.10695105

Do you guys wanna get together and circlejerk IRL once LINK hits 1000?

>> No.10695141

>>10695105
Nope

>> No.10695148

>>10695035
Why not?

>> No.10695180

>>10695105
Why not?

>> No.10695232

>>10694944
"When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love". Keep this in mind when we make it anons. Let's try to create circumstances where above is possible for everything we interact with

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>>10694944
>To RA: pls don't leave.
He can't.

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>>10694944
>To RA: pls don't leave.
He can't.

>> No.10695398

Alright then boys it’s settled we found the next bitcoin/eth/oil and we no longer need 5 daily chain link posts we can go back to talking about economics we already made it, just wait a year to sell .

>> No.10695414

>>10695325
Biz's ChainLink community is like the land of the Lotus-Eaters. You can't leave. Link-Eaters

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How does it look? Anything I should add?

>> No.10695466

>>10693602
You can stake LinkPool. Running your own node, closest thing to staking would be exposing tokens for penalty payments

>> No.10695488

>>10695418
Pretty good
Line in the middle looks squished though

>> No.10695527

https://foreshadowattack.eu/

>> No.10695552

So serious question: What do people think about 65% of tokens being at the developer's disposal? And 1 billion total supply? I love the network and concept but Jesus. How will it be okay when those hit the market?

>> No.10695681

>>10695552
That is actually crypto economically genius. Sell the tokens OTC to institutions and they have a skin in the game. They get to choose to play long term games with long term people who are in it for utility.

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shout out to NavyAdmiral

What the fuck is this guy? If he's paid to contribute as a freelancer surely the team wouldn't want him running a chainlink shill and info repository? So this nigga is doing it for free, and not stuff that he or his company can use for their own profit. He's knocking out the front end shit. I mean this nigga did the 404 screen wtf

>> No.10695720

Bump

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>>10695681
sell the tokens over the counter? long term games? I understand the words but not what you're trying to say
>pic related is me

>> No.10695742

>>10695685
That’s coolest 404 if I’ve ever seen it

>> No.10695755

>>10695685
That is aesthetic as fuck

>> No.10695773

>>10695418
Looks good to me

>> No.10695839

Bump. Good thread.

>> No.10695858

>>10695685
How do I stick my dick in the fact that link has the best 404 pages?

>> No.10695884

>>10695685
I can fap to this

>> No.10695922

>>10695681
As an investor you want the price to be controlled by the long term people rather than speculators. They will plan and execute it together. Whole supply on an open market and buying enough for years would bloat the price for the buyer. Buying OTC with a fixed price will incentivize to gain more buying power in the network. The early adopters will benefit the most and this will also make it almost impossible for competing networks to attract these adopters, this will further strengthen network effects. Despite of this the network will still be attractive for adoption at any given moment because you always tender out the nodes in an open market

>> No.10695950

>>10695741
>>10695922
Don't underestimate yourself anon. Keep asking questions and learning. You will make it

>> No.10695984

Is 160k enough to make it in 2 years?

>> No.10695993

>>10695741
What that anon is implying is that those coins will be sold to companies early when they're worth less so that those companies are incentivised to do their best to support the project since they'll directly profit from it being a success.

>> No.10696104

>>10695993
Correct. But to specify; sell the tokens for less than the estimated open market cost. This will most likely be more than the current value. There could be all kinds of deals made here of course. "Make a smartcontract that buys us 500.000 Link a year for 5$ a piece for the next 10 years"

>> No.10696131

>>10695418
You could add Hyperledger which is directly associated with Accord.

>> No.10696140

>>10696104
Certain % of tokens will always have the equal % of the buying power in the network

>> No.10696211

>>10696104
It sounds like they're really thought things through, hope this really is the next BTC.

>> No.10696226

Tokenomics
people still have some incorrect assumptions about the remaining 650M not in circulation. Half goes to the team.
Half are used to pay the nodes. Rory has stated this.
They will hold (at least for a while). the half used for node rewards will be locked until they are used to pay node operators, namely, us.
Circulating Supply will not exceed 500,000,000 until 2021 (IMO)
Node operators will be paid a dollar amount in link, depending on the number of transactions it preforms.
If you were to be paid $100 dollars in link, would you rather link be $100 (1 link payment) or $0.50 (200 link payment), I hope
you said 200 link payment.
Now arbitrage will not likely last long as the market catches on, link will not remain a low price given a return on (X)linkies exceeds the other investing opportunities
by a significant amount.
I actually don't think current price is all that far off from a healthy but normal rate of return we may see in the early stages of the network. For example, If you have
A monthly return: 20,000 link in a node (@$0.25) and it rewards 100 link (or $25), or annualized 1200 link = $300. $300 return on initial $5000 investment = 6%.
Now where it gets interesting is when more transactions are processe through the node (more businesses are onboarded), if price were to remain stable you would recieve more link.
So now lets say 20,000 link returns 300 link a month ($75), but that would be an annualized 18% return, this should get people interested therefore buying up link
and driving up the price of link which lowers the amount of link you recieve as reward (but keeping the $ amount of the reward the same).
So in this example lets keep 6% an equillibrium, the price would rise to $0.75 per link and your 20,000 link are now worth $15000 rather than $5000 and your previous rewards that you recieved at $0.25 you could now sell
for $0.75. Continue this processes until link = $1000 :).

>> No.10696284

>>10695681

I remember when I first realized this, that the coins still not circulating were actually a colossal asset rather than a liability because of how they would be used. Sergey is a genius.

>> No.10696285

>>10696140
= amount of transactions reflects token value (not the only factor)

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>>10693088
you really said this at the right time. iron hands anyways, i just had some cognitive dissonance which you solved. thank you.
also checked

>> No.10696394

>>10696284
It's enlightening. The architecture really is genius. Cryptoeconomical masterpiece.

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>>10692915
I’ve been eating nothing but chicken and frozen vegetables. If I make it I just want to go out and get a filet mignon.

>> No.10697277

>>10697071
>first meal after making it not being a big mac

Not gonna make it fren

>> No.10697281

>>10697071
Nice stack, do you have a job?

>> No.10697311

>>10697071
are you me bro? lol. literally eating frozen chicken breasts and frozen veggies with white rice and cans of tuna every other day.

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>>10697071
same stack too

>> No.10697376

>>10697327
just wow

>> No.10697759

>>10697277

Respect.

We must all buy a burger as first meal, after we make it (whatever your definition of making it via CL is)

Me, I will get a blue cheese cheese burger, as ode to Sergey, the colour blue and his tartan.

>> No.10698732

I have 50k. I hope its enough to make it.

>> No.10698818

My friend owns a cryptofund in SF. I keep telling him about this token, and he keeps FUDing it saying it'll only be good for short to mid term.


His biggest arguments is if CL so good, then someone will just copy the code

>> No.10698843

>>10692683
Fuck yeh, good post anon

>> No.10698852

>>10698818
>shadow forking

Either you are FUDing us, or your friend is FUDing you

>> No.10698855

>>10698818
tell him to go copy bitcoins code. O wait his copy of bitcoins code would be worth shit because decentralized networks value is proportional to the square of the number of connected users of the network.

>> No.10698888

>>10698852
Nope just genuinely curious.

>>10698855
Thanks. Checked

>> No.10698987

>>10697327

You know, a decentralised Minecraft server powered by Chainlink would be awesome in it's absolute crystallisation of massive, crippling autism. Yes please.

>> No.10699000

>>10698888
Nice get

>> No.10699040

>>10699000
Checked.

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>>10695362
based mummy Masters <3

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>>10697327
>>10698987
We should make a linky minecraft server

>> No.10700425

>>10699453
Id play with some stinkies

>> No.10700483

How much link should I go for if I'm just dicking around with some spare change and not really expecting to make it or anything?

>> No.10700505

>>10700483
100

>> No.10701385

>>10695685
Does anyone know who NavyAdmiral is? He's contributed a great deal and I've been trying to figure it out who he is but no luck. I asked this in another thread but no response, anyone have any idea?

>> No.10702124

>>10699381
I bet the Rothschilds have fucked the shit outta her

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>>10702124
no... no one fucks mummy... mummy fucks you!
>bend over, marine

>> No.10702270

>>10696289
Implying you wont swing trade it in the upcomming bullrun

>> No.10702539

What a bunch of massive retards ITT, still not a single reason to use this shittoken instead of ETH.
Utility tokens are scam.

>> No.10702612

>>10702539
there's a lot of reasons. For one, the price of the token will eventually always reflect the strength of the network once it starts getting used, rather than being affected by the price of ether, which is subject to all sorts of outside factors that have nothing to do with chainlink, which is especially important considering chainlink is blockchain agnostic and will be used on many chains. This is one reason in particular link tokens have an even stronger argument for existing than other shitcoins whose fates are more directly tied to ethereum's success.

>> No.10702698

>>10702539
hehe

>> No.10703117

>>10702539
Lol

>> No.10703140

>>10692683
Good thread OP.

>> No.10703305

>>10698818
Your friend is a retard if he truly believes that.