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She has secured her bright future, why haven't you? Edition

Popular brokers for stock trading:

Robinhood
>Commission free and no minimum to open
http://www.robinhood.com

>How is it free?
Robinhood earns revenue by collecting interest on cash/securities and fees from their Robinhood Gold service

Interactive Brokers
>$0.005/share, $1 minimum. Lowest margin interest. Free API access
>Cheapest trading platform for Europeans, very good API, anal registration process
http://www.interactivebrokers.com

TD Ameritade
>$6.95 commission per trade. No minimum to open. Fantastic data/charting through their free ThinkorSwim service
http://www.tdameritrade.com

Degiro
>2nd cheapest platform for Europeans, they announced an increase of their commission fees. Very quick registration process
http://www.degiro.eu

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free in depth charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
http://www.nasdaq.com/extended-trading/premarket-mostactive.aspx
https://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/
https://www.cnbc.com/pre-markets/

Earnings Report Calendars:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

CNBC Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/cnbc-america.html
Fox Business Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/business/fox-business-network-fbn.html
Bloomberg Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

Basic rundown on options:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBAQtjyqNHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTTzfa4ePE

Suggested books:
>A random walk down Wall Street (Malkiel 12th edition)

Previous thread: >>10542879

>> No.10548532

How cum the time is passing so fast

>> No.10548537

>>10548532
Time flies when you're having fun anon!
>please let me die good night

>> No.10548538

>>10548508
So I played options for the first time this week, i realized 260 bucks in profit but my DISH call didnt pan out so good... neg 120 atm. got a week or so to change. Fun stuff when youre green. Doubled my 200 bucks on KHC call.

>> No.10548551

>>10548537
whats your podcast link

>> No.10548554
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>>10548538
Based Kraft

>> No.10548565

>>10548551
Here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyHBlT16Zd1arzSCwFoThNw
As previously stated it's not very good, but I will try to continue to improve

>> No.10548572

>>10548538
over 70% of my port is 1 way options with no hedge.

>> No.10548573

>>10548565
needs more 2D gals

>> No.10548576

>>10548565
np, gotta start somewhere. It's tough putting yourself out there but you'll make it. I'll check it out

>> No.10548580

>>10548565
Comfy what's your view on TSLA's price moves over the last 2 weeks and why each move happened.

>> No.10548588
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>>10548572
im sure ill lose my ass eventually, but im following the strategy of making like 5-10 200 dollar calls/puts.
I think in a sideways market like we are in now with many stocks being in indices its a good rule of thumb to have like 50/50 calls/puts incase the market tanks.
Just starting to learn about straddling strategies, looks interesting. Makes me nervous to sell puts/calls though.

>> No.10548608

Should I just buyout HMNY and sell it to pajeets overseas?

>> No.10548670 [DELETED] 

>>10548588
Well it depends. I don't know the exact expected value of calls. I'm pretty sure it's negative overall though because of the leverage premium.

Which means compared to stocks you would have to perform even better to stay positive. I don't know the exact EV though.

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>>10548608
The pajeets would set you on fire. Saying HMNY in some places in India would probably get you mobbed to death.

>> No.10548759

Thoughts on abil?

>> No.10548778

>>10548759
What happened June 19th to 26th? Went from 2 shekels to 12 and then dropped like a potato.

>> No.10548788

>>10548778
that's what I wanna know, some kind of pump and dump?

>> No.10548894

Is there any way to do trading as an european without getting assraped by fees? It seems to me the only profitable way is to go for monthly trades. Day trading is almost impossible

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>>10548894
InteractiveBrokers and trade there their CFDs instead of the underlying stocks

>> No.10548929

>>10548923
thank you, and thanks for the reading recommendations

>> No.10548932

>>10548894
Degiro if you can't make the minimum deposit on IB

>> No.10548941 [DELETED] 

Is HMNY the new DRYS or something? I don't know why people keep talking about this very obviously worthless stock.

>> No.10549028

How much money do you guys have?
I have about 20k, of which 12k or so is in stocks.

>> No.10549052

>>10548929
also, to optimize on fees, make sure you trade only US market, i.e. stuff listed on us exchanges.

>> No.10549061

>>10549028
Nice try IRS.

>> No.10549078

Just curious, does anyone know of a publicly traded corporation, with a positive book value that ceased operations and liquidated their entire enterprise and did a final distribution to it's shareholders? Like they knew their business was doomed and quit while they were ahead and still had positive net assets?

I assume it must have happened but have never heard of an example. Every company seems to dissolve only after bankruptcy, lawsuits and the company is worth less than zero.

Never seen a company just die with dignity.

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>>10549078
this. I am very curious also.

My opinion would be that the company strategy in that case would be to transform ahead. Did you know that CitiBank was a pure canning company in the beginning? Canning as in manufacturing the cans used for canned food. No joke. The most impressive company transformation ever

>> No.10549247

Cd projekt red has a P/E reatio of 110. let that sink in.

>> No.10549307

>>10549158
Haha. Yep, Berkshire Hathaway was a textile mill, originally.

I wonder because one investing strategy implies companies can dissolve for shareholder benefit, so buying even shitty companies with flagging rrevenue, that have market caps lower than their book value. You are at worse, buying office furniture, real estate and gently used lathes or whatever for less than their market value. Your shares are valuable because the shareholders could vote to dissolve the company, sell all assets and pocket the profit. I've just never heard of this happening before.

I know oil trusts dissolve like this, when their oil production slows to a trickle, they bank enough cash to cover capping the wells (their only single liability) and distribute the rest, but they are not real businesses,

>> No.10549335

>>10549061
Isn't it interesting though?
I know there are som real estate people here who are quite rich, and there's that guy with the cleaning/janitor company of his. There's lots of memes on this board but some people are actually inspirational and sharing constructive stuff

>> No.10549355

>>10549078
>>10549158
There's no reason for them not to run it to the ground. There may be a small chance of a last minute bailout, and they can continue to draw wages/benefits from the heavily indebted company until it dies. The directors are under no obligation to return anything to the investors, rather it's your duty as a shareholder to bail out before it all comes down.

>> No.10549370

>>10549028
Like 14k and 9k in stocks. But I only just got a job and started saving. Putting away $1200 a month currently..

>> No.10549391

>>10549247
My only regret is that I didn't invest in them back when TW2 was released. In retrospect, that's the one time I was ahead of the market. But of course I couldn't be bothered buying stocks through the god damn Polish stock exchange.

>> No.10549395

>>10549355
I have a similar figure as you, with about 3k in unrealized losses, $2000 in realized losses and 12k more than you, sitting in a money market account because I don't know what to do with it. My bags are not as heavy as they were and I hope I can recoup them before the stock market collapses.

>>10549355
Eh, oftentimes activist shareholders will start to attempt to coup d'etat the management when things get bad. I agree they usually hope for a buy-out or simply run the company into the ground. The latter usually happens with companies that were highly leveraged. Usually a business with little debt that starts to fail will no longer have access to leverage, so an orderly dissolution would make sense.

>> No.10549413

>>10549158
>>10549355
Okay, found one example. Emrise Corporation. It was a small defense contractor and it's shareholders voted to an orderly dissolution of the corporation and got a series of distributions from it.

>> No.10549423

>>10549370
Nice! Fun to make progress?

>> No.10549434

>>10549028
100k
1.5k in stocks

>> No.10549436

>>10549434
You into bonds or what?

>> No.10549461

>>10549436
Always been into real estate (rents), just started trading this month.
Family sadly thinks that investing means gambling just like betting red or black at the roulette.
I've only recently started taking control of my life and saying a much needed "fuck you" to the rest of the family.
Fucking hell. Putting 11k kilometers of distance between us was the smartest move of my life.
Sorry for the rant.

>> No.10549509

>>10549370
Nice
You gonna make it

>> No.10549552

>>10549461
>real estate
I think the main plus of RE is leverage

You can manage to get a piece of RE with little money down (I am not saying it is easy to do, nor it is easy to manage after acquisition, I am just saying it is possible).

But I find many people are understating the risks of owning RE, notably factors that are totally out of your control (for example, what if a pack of niggers/mudslimes/gypsies decides to infest the neighborhood ? legislation and taxation regarding renting because politicians can use that to gain votes etc)

One customer from my previous job told me the story of his Venezuelan brother-in-law who was very wealthy and owned many RE in Caracas. I think you can guess the rest of his story...

Many people find financial markets are tantamount to gambling because they don't understand the game and the logic behind.
The game sure seems very abstract, but really it is not. I find them to be much more down to earth and accessible than some mathematical or physics concepts.

>> No.10549567

>>10549461
Cool, I feel the same about my family desu. What do you rent out? I want to do real estate.

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>>10549567
Some years ago a town in Italy got overrun by chinks. literally 15 chinese living in 10 square meters apartments.
Now, they all went to this town because it's where all the italian textile manufactories are, and for some reason chinks are allured by the idea of slaving in sweatshops making booleg clothes for rich people.

So I bought some warehouses and rent them, made some money. I only had to keep the chinks from living in them. Wasn't pretty, but it paid. With the money I bought a house on the Alps away from all the mudslimes.
Moved to Japan, I'm renting said house on AirBnB, it's going decently IF IT WASN'T FOR MY DAMN MOTHER WHO JUST DECIDES TO GO THERE OUT OF NOWHERE TO HAVE HOLIDAYS WITHOUT GIVING ME A CENT.
But what can you do, gotta love mom.
Sooner or later I'll sell all I fucking have in Italy and move all the money to Japan.

>> No.10549730

>>10549674
lol
Your story reminds me the one of the Paris Jewish during the 70s/80s/90s

Sephardi jews basically ran the wholesale business and employed illegal chinks. The latter scrimped and saved and became wholesalers themselves.

These jews no basically own a good chunk of Paris real estate.

>> No.10549751

>>10549674
Why do you want to move to Japan? Living in a nice countryside house in the Alps sounds much more attractive.

>> No.10549768

>>10549751
Western Europe is literally becoming an annex of Africa
The best outcome in the next 30 years will be the Balkans situation in the 90s with the accordeon playing funny soldiers.
The worst is South Africa.

>> No.10549787

>Philadelphia, PA — August 3, 2018 — Lannett Company, Inc. (NYSE: LCI) today announced that it has entered into an exclusive perpetual licensing agreement with Andor Pharmaceuticals, LLC for Methylphenidate Hydrochloride Extended Release (ER) tablets USP (CII) in 18 mg, 27 mg, 36 mg and 54 mg strengths. Andor’s pending Abbreviated New Drug Application (ANDA) of Methylphenidate included all bioequivalence metrics recommended by FDA and is expected to be approved as an AB-rated generic equivalent to the brand Concerta®. Total U.S. sales of Methylphenidate Hydrochloride Extended Release (ER) tablets were approximately $1.8 billion for the 12 months ended June 2018, according to IMS.

LCI at 13,95 on Afterhours

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>>10549751
>Living in a nice countryside house in the Alps sounds much more attractive.

First of all, too close to my family.
Second, I wanted to travel around the world.
Third, not even the alps are safe anymore and migrants are starting to get there too.
Fourth, I'm fed up with italians in general.

But I agree, Alps are very pretty. Here it is the pic from the town where I got the house.
If you manage to find me on AirBnB, feel free to stop by whenever you want, I'll make you a special discount. Something like 50%

>> No.10549840

>>10549768
>Western Europe is literally becoming an annex of Africa
>>10549817
>Third, not even the alps are safe anymore and migrants are starting to get there too.
I don't want to live in this stupid world any more

>> No.10549853

>>10549840
I used to be enraged at this reality
But it is pointless because what you gonna do ? Kill them all ?
Nigga please

Exploit your so-called clarity, get rich and get prepared

>> No.10549862

>>10549853
>Kill them all ?
Why yes

>> No.10549881

>>10549862
I too think it would be the most effective and simple solution that will actually lead to real progress of Humanity

But that is totally unrealistic. Just think for yourself for now

>> No.10549882

https://mega.nz/#F!2P4BHAzK!qXhFNWATPPc6CLdkBWsiGQ
Link to Hedge Fund Market Wizards pdf and audiobook. Most recent book in market wizards series. It's essentially the transcript of interviews of the biggest hedge fund managers (that accept an interview) at the time.

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>Random Walk down Penis Street
meant for say yesterday
TA is USELESS for stocks, just because Fundamentals + Audits are far superior to TA for investing !

>> No.10549962

>>10549889
TA kinda works for stocks in absence of news. MLPs, utilities and other reliably predictable companies that do not grow quickly will trade on TA in nice boring channels. News never moves MLPs for example. Too bad the tax laws for them discourage swing trading of MLPs

>> No.10550003

Random Walk Down Wall Street

This book shit both on TA and fundamentals, it crushed my hope of ever making it.

Well at least I will stop working when Im 60.

>> No.10550013

>>10549889
Why are you so stupid and ugly, mentally and physically damaged both here and in reality? I have literally never seen you post anything remotely intelligent, original or funny here. All you do is shit up the place with you 8 syllable sentences and let everyone know it was indeed you who dropped that turd of a "thought" on this board.
Thanks to you I have started to advocate for euthanasia to be accessible without any specific reason to everyone, so you could freely end your existence on this planet, because you will NEVER EVER find happiness nor wealth with your cruel handicaps.
Kill yourself.

>> No.10550054

>>10548588
straddling hardly ever works out in my experience, unless you sell one option on an upswing and then it goes down far enough to put your other option in the money

>> No.10550136

>>10549028
About 33k total with 22k in stocks. Adding 300 to my savings account and 1250 to my investing account monthly. (In EUR so multiply by 1.15 for USD).

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>>10550013
you are so pathetic already with this pasta.
your brain would dissolve into puddle of insanity and dementia if life randomly hit you with such grave health disasters as RKG, yet she manages to prosper, develop unique humour and help anons here.
How does it feel that a person battling death is far more profitable trader and more successfull and active person than you?
also kys

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>>10550187
I usually just drop the pasta and leave but your post gave me a truly hearty kek, it is dripping with virginity and white knighting you betaorbiter. Lmao thanks for that

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>>10549889
hi kneepads, how are you today?
do you have any favourite books on trading and markets? what sources influenced most your trading style and evolution as a trader?
pic related a josif ratsu just for you

>> No.10550254

Just a thought, but does anyone here trade in leveraged ETFs? I was wondering if its worth it to buy both the bull and bear 3x ETFs for whatever, natural gas and just sell them whenever they go green.

>> No.10550293

I bought Sonos. Pls no bully.

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>>10550013
>mfw me have own copypasta now
>>10550187
#@_@#

>> No.10550317

>>10550303
I mean everything I said in that pasta.
Kill yourself, you worthless piece of cancer.

>> No.10550355

>>10550303
listen u little bitch, ive told u i willd pay off ur debt if u let me fuck you, give me a contact , im rich,

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>>10550317
your post gave me a truly hearty kek, it is dripping with virginity and incel you betaorbiter. Lmao thanks for that

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>>10550355
kek you severely under estimate me debt

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who else /all-in options/

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10550662

The boredom is seeping in.

>> No.10550666

>>10548608
Yes. It's better if you sell it to AMC the app.

>> No.10550678

>>10550590
Did you finish Dead Tube?
Read Dorohedoro next!

I'll continue 6 billions.

>> No.10550687

>>10550662
Yeah a weekend in the flattest, overbought market in history.

Even dodgy biotechs and crypto shit is trading flat. Maybe its time to go to cash and wait?

>> No.10550711

>>10550687
Take positions on commodities, long in general.

>> No.10550749

>>10550645
Don't do this unless you have <1k in capital

>> No.10550771

>>10550303
Please post nude feet

>> No.10550794

>>10550711
I used to trade in commodities but I hate the oil market and other commodities just keep going down with no end in site.

I might give it another whirl though, for lack of anything better to do.

>> No.10550900

>>10550572
While what you just said is likely true, what is said in the pasta is also true. Here's the attention you so desperately seek with your trip

>> No.10550907

>>10550666
>666 Satanic businessman man

LISTEN TO ME.

>> No.10550954

>>10550749
up 400% ytd desu

>> No.10550962

>>10550794
I'm long oil right now, and you could PROBABLY long wheat successfully based on the memes I've seen here and almost nothing else

>> No.10550987

>>10550954
That's cool if you started out with <1k USD. If you have more, then you should consider your Sharpe ratio.

>> No.10551023

>>10550987
I started with 300$ and I've started putting some of my gains in divvies. Still 80% in various options positions, though.

>> No.10551094

>>10550962
I like more niche commodities. Oil pisses me off, oil speculators have to be the dumbest fucking faggots on the planet and I cannot get into that brainspace and get anything right.

Best trade ever was uranium after a mine in central asia closed.

>> No.10551133

>>10551094
oil swings have been basically free money for me for the last 6 or so months

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Hope everyone is having a good weekend! I noticed everyone is shitting on BIG5GUY over GME, so I took a look at it. He's right, it seems likely to reverse trend. Stop making your decisions based on emotions. This is a trade, ride the wave, make some $$$.

>MACD reaching bottom of range
>Green Cloud, is trading above cloud.

HA trend will emerge next trading day. Look for the following before taking position:

>Conversion crossover of baseline
>HA with a higher high, higher close, with no lower low
>MACD crossover

Holding GME through earnings would make me very nervous. I would sell before or hedge position.

>> No.10551186

>>10550254
Seems like the problem with this would be that as one etf goes up, the other is simultaneously going down.

>> No.10551210

PAPA JOHNS IS ABOUT TO POST THEIR QUARTERLY REPORT. BETTING THAT ALL THE NIGGER TALK AND BAD PRESS BROUGHT THE COMPANY DOWN, BUT IT'S STILL DOING FINE IN PROFITS. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?

>> No.10551212

>>10550254
Leveraged ETFs suffer from beta-slippage and low volume, much better to buy options leverage on the underlying

>> No.10551218

>>10550136
Nice!

>> No.10551222

made a shitty compound ROI calculator and figured I'd share it for newfies

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tNkGWzRI3IQ4d9JEiSS21fXG18n04JLX_-0ni-1dv8/edit?usp=sharing

>> No.10551255

>>10551210
The removal of papa John from his own company, and subsequent downfall of stock price is a Jewish plot to take over the pizza industry.

No, it will probably miss earnings.

>> No.10551281

>>10551255
how can a CEO being removed in a times month effect earnings that much? No administrative impact could be felt yet.

>> No.10551354

>>10551281
No longer 'official' pizza of NFL & nogs, SJWs no longer eat there. It has missed the last few earnings as well. It's really great, they have been putting out some great coupons in my area to try to boost sales. Better than the other cheap pizza chains like domino's and pizza hut.

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>>10551210
i think you should stop using all caps in a slow thread

>> No.10551494

>>10551354
alright fair point, I think i'll sell Monday then

>> No.10551505

>>10551354
>>10551281
>>10551255
>>10551210
I've had more papa johns this month than i have had pizza for the past 6 months.. i didn't really think about it till you guys said something. Does anyone have a recording of papa john saying nigger?

>> No.10551748

>>10551210

> Elon Musk walks out
> "I've acquired Papa John's pizza, no pedos allowed"
> Negative EPS
> Stock moons

>> No.10552048

>>10551255
>>10551210
It was a conspiracy to remove John Schatter, yes, because he was running the company into the fucking ground, look at the numbers for the year or two before all this nigger shit hit the press

they will miss earnings and it will already be priced in. if John fucks off forever the stock will get a solid boost but the boost will only sustain itself if they improve the business

>> No.10552081

>>10550590
U several underestimate my wealth n how bad i want to fuck u in every hole

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So robinhood just gave out extended hours for free, does it work like normal buying and selling? As in that if someone was to hit market order/sell the request would execute at that price? Asking because it seems like that's the case it would be super easy to jump into premarket positive earnings calls and ride the wave until the market opens and cash out.

>> No.10552189

>>10552133
Yes, it works the same as normal hours. However, volume is much much lower, so you should really use buy & sell limits instead of market orders. Don't set your limits to low if you are trying to ride an ER. You are totally speculating what the price will be during the day, if your bullish, you need to reflect that in your bid. Again, this is due to low volume.

>> No.10552218

>>10552189
Awesome, thanks for the heads up

>> No.10552246

>>10548565
speak up lad, work on getting that quality up. Start referring to yourself as uberguttenhiemfuher Comfy.

>> No.10552268

>>10552133
Robinhood enters it's "market orders" as limit orders at 5% higher than the current market price

After hours you aren't really trading on the market where they need to fill at national best bid offer (NBBO), you're trading in some low volume dark pool.

Volume is lower but that's not really the problem, the problem is that the entire 5% that I mentioned earlier will get scalped from you by somebody, and by "somebody" I mean Citadel, the company that Robinhood sells order flow to. This is how RH makes money, not the line of bullshit you see in the OP. This is why they "gave" everyone extended hours

tldr: only use limit orders after hours or you'll get fucked

>> No.10552271

>>10552246
i really do think comfy has a hearing problem, he really can't pronounce words. That can stem from hearing problems.

>> No.10552325

>>10551210

> Peyton Manning walks out
> "I'm the boss now, any questions?"
> Nails any questioners in the face with a football

>> No.10552366

>>10552271
Perhaps. He also has a shit quality mic.

Have you already taken position in GME? See >>10551177

>> No.10552388
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>weekends

>> No.10552410

>>10549567
Why not buy a REIT? They pay dividends and you don’t have to do any of the dirty work. O currently pays 22 cents a share monthly

>> No.10552414

whats everybodies strategies for next week what you buying and selling and holding

i recommend long tech long USD

short turkey into the ground

>> No.10552422

>>10552366
I haven't taken a position in GME not sure if i am going to be able to get into it i'm in some other things right now. Wouldn't be suprised to see a run up to 16 then break out from there. Theres alot of things to it but don't want to get into it becuase DD on stocks in here is considered "autistic screeching"

>>10552325
Or have Tom Brady talk about balls and pizza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tVHbdqGYOU

>> No.10552518
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>>10552414
Holding the remainder of FNGU to 70

>> No.10552551

>>10552414
Buying TMT, GSKY, TNXP, NBRV
Holding MNK,

>> No.10552555
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BILI is adding even more popular games to their library.

>> No.10552612
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K R A F T
R
A
F
T

>> No.10552625
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>>10552388
this

>> No.10552774

>>10552271
I wouldn't be surprised if it has something to do with whatever meds he's on.

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>>10552422
DESU You have been very defensive; but on the same token this general has evolved more into a shitshow than a good place to discuss stocks in an intelligent manner. It seemed like only a few months ago most people would post TA or FA. Don't mistake me, we had our memes. Maybe an influx in cryptobois?

>> No.10552846

thinking about buying some SNAP calls. please someone convince me otherwise.

>> No.10552874
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>>10552846
You should straddle. Very difficult to determine direction on this one, but it'll be a big mover. Snap averages ~30% move on ER. See chart, pic related.

>> No.10552889

>>10551255
>removal of papa John from his own company
This was probably the most retarded move ever by this company.

>> No.10552890
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10552890

Buy ROBO, UBOT, and FONE
These all have BULLFLAGS and havent popped up yet, dont forget to purchase

>> No.10552906

Everyone ready for the BLACK SWAN event that'll tank the market this week?

Bears rise up.

>> No.10552922
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10552922

BUY INTEL AS LONG AS THERE IS A DIP
COMFY 30%

INTEL FIRED LEFT WING CEO BRIAN KRZANICH

AMD CURRENTLY AT 224% DEBT

>> No.10552928

>>10552906
buy some puts and screenshot them you faggot, no prizes for guessing "market crash" every week when you don't have skin in the game

>> No.10552933

>>10552422
>Theres alot of things to it but don't want to get into it becuase DD on stocks in here is considered "autistic screeching"
Man you really need to get thicker skin. Unironically believe in yourself. At worst you get laughed at. At best you have the last laugh. No?
>>10552906
pls no

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>>10552922
INTEL ALSO CONTRACTED JIM THE SHITWRECKER KELLER
WITH A FUCKING BLANK CHEQUE TO DO ANYTHING
AND POO IN LOO TRAITOR RAJA IS MAKING GPUS

>> No.10552950

>>10552928
I'm 300 shares deep into UVXY you homo. I'd buy calls if Robinhood let me.

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10552981

Just bought a $40 call for HEAR and I'm going to hold through earnings. How retarded am I?

>> No.10553042

>>10552783
>DESU You have been very defensive
>Maybe an influx in cryptobois?
i think that might be the cause of it, some very fucking stupid people have been flowing into these threads the past few months.. like really fucking retarded. Comfy doesn't help the cause since he is one of the retards and then he encourages other retards to be retarded with him..

>> No.10553060

>>10548608
I was considering that as well. Yahoo finance only valued their company at 400k as of now.

>> No.10553071

>>10553042
Comfy needs encouragement. He keeps getting JUSTed and losing his damn mind. Gotta set that fucker on the right path.

>> No.10553080

>>10552949
they did just get kicked in the nuts for all that in the last ER though; I remember because I made a couple hundred bucks with a put (and then dabbed, of course)

so it may be priced in now, in which case this could be a good opportunity if your timeframe is at least a year

>> No.10553094

>>10552874
what do I do with my calls if it tanks? hold them until it recovers? or try to cut my losses early?

>> No.10553097

>>10553071
>Gotta set that fucker on the right path.
he doesn't want to listen to people more experienced than him. Not everyone is cut out for stocks. His best bet is to dollar cost boomer stocks and walk away.

Not trying to be mean, just being real, not everyone is cut out to trade.

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>>10552422
>>10552783
>>10553042
>>10553071
>Tripfags complaining about other tripfagas and the degradation of the general that they caused
You can't make this shit up. Must be the weekend slump.

>> No.10553144

>>10553126
>he degradation of the general that they caused
well hello newfag

>> No.10553152

>>10552551
What made you buy TNT?

>> No.10553154

>>10549028
>IRS
How about a less-revealing question. What percent profit have you turned since Nov 2016??

>> No.10553176

>>10553080
>so it may be priced in now, in which case this could be a good opportunity if your timeframe is at least a year
Two years. It'll take that long for a new architecture from Keller that isn't fucking hot even with solder in it.

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>>10553094
I think you need to go read up on options before you start trading them. Here is what a straddle is: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/straddle.asp

Sell it when you are sure it is tanking. There is no way it is recovering before your call expires. I recommend 8/17 expire contracts. You need a move of >~10% to make money on the SNAP straddle.

>>10553097
True, he really needs to stop falling for the memes. If he doesn't he would absolutely be better off buying up as much SPY, FAANG, as he can and holding it.

>>10553126
here is your (((you)))

>> No.10553213

>>10553176
two years, then. point is, Intel isn't going away so this dip could be a buy and hold opportunity, but it's definitely not a good short term play

>> No.10553225

>>10550771
this.

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10553227

bears on SPY can now make a formidable setup with clearly defined stop-loss and uber-huge R/R ratio
RKG, are you in?

>> No.10553289

Would anyone join my stocktwits room if I made one?

>> No.10553317
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>>10553213
>dip could be a buy and hold opportunity
I already bought at the dip since I was too late to get in last year, so you're preaching to the frogs here. Now if only NVDA would drop to prices I can afford to buy a ton.

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>>10553227
/everyone/ on Twitter has been short since 2802.
2802 when me went bull
that statistic guy has interesting stuff but he has been losing people money

Here what 3k SPX looks like
me WOULD NOT short here, yet, need for be under 2800 for short

>> No.10553438

>>10548508
is that Lucina from Fire Emblem? Is she why HMNY is falling?

>> No.10553495

>>10553289
yes.

>> No.10553499

anybody wanna watch great gatsby on their saturday it's playing on filthy casuals channel 416

>> No.10553530

>>10553495
https://www.stocktwits.com/r/SoupsKitchen

>> No.10553555

>>10553495
>>10553530
should make a /smg/ one too

>> No.10553647

After a a week of lurking this general (and 2 years of a business economics bachelor) I finally made an account on Degiro.
I'm hoping my theoretical knowledge of finance and business coupled with the shitposting here will help me lose money less fast.

>> No.10553652

>>10553184
Why 8/17 instead of 8/10 contracts? If you are just banking off making money on the ER move aren't you gonna sell it the next morning on Aug 8th anyway?

>> No.10553676

>>10553555

Someone just make an official /smg/ and I'll join. It has to be called official /smg/ though to cement the room.

>> No.10553738

>>10553676
make it i'll join it

>> No.10553800

>>10553738

Alright. I've never made one but let me see. Also, I'm going to start tripfagging from now on. Weee.

>> No.10553841

>>10553800
>Also, I'm going to start tripfagging from now on
just be prepared for people to go against your trade right away without doing any DD

>> No.10553844

Hey, check out SMGOfficial, a room on StockTwits that I think you would like to join. Check it out: https://www.stocktwits.com/r/SMGOfficial

Yeah you get the gist.

>> No.10553860

>>10553841

Yes I'm fully prepared. Someone asked a couple of days ago to start tripfagging so they can go on moon missions with me. Well this is it.

>> No.10553910

>>10553844
i'm on waitlist

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Just finished the podcast and I did a section reviewing anon and tripfriend calls this week.
It reminded me I was actually right on shorting DVN, feels good to be right desu

>> No.10553941

>>10553910

Cool.

Everyone join the room if you're on stocktwits.

>> No.10553985

NEW PODCAST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlhj-46sH5o
This one is /improved quality/, plz suggest more improvements and sections you'd like to see in the comments

>> No.10554012

>>10553844
Someone already made a room called /biz/. Which one is the real room?

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>>10553985
Use a logo
>pic related

Feel free to suggest

>> No.10554043

WHAT ARE SOME ANIME INVESTMENTS I CAN MAKE FOR QUALITY GAINS

>> No.10554053

>>10554043
TQQQ
Probably try to get a buy limit around 62.30

>> No.10554055

>>10553985
You need to name it the Comfycast

>> No.10554058

>>10553985
>not including options to monetize manlet football camp fun

get it together /smg/

>> No.10554060

>>10554022
Dude this is a great logo!! Every video will now feature it
Thank yu Anon

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>>10553985
>Cramer 5'6"

>> No.10554066

buy fb calls

>> No.10554089

Need some memestock to squander money on next week. Any ideas?

>> No.10554094

>>10554089
QQQ

>> No.10554105

>>10554012

Calling it /biz/ makes the room a bit broad, might attract cryptos. But if everyone is find with that then whatever.

Whichever room gets the most traction becomes the official one I suppose.

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>>10553985
too memey, imo

>>10554089
buy and hold GALT until it spikes

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>>10554089
AMRS
ROAD

>>10554060
you're welcome senpai

>> No.10554154

>>10553184
I've traded options for months, but when you straddle it you will lose on the one just as much as you lose on the other. Unless you are supposed to accept the 100% loss of the losing position?

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>>10554154
It could work out if you made 200% or more on the winning position, assuming you equally divided the positions. Perhaps that's what I was missing when trying to understand these two way positions.

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>>10554123
Ho Lee Fuk

>> No.10554189

>>10554176
In that case then you'd be retarded to buy expensive options, to leverage your gains as much as possible.

>> No.10554203

>>10553652
The 30% move is over a 7 day period

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>>10553985

>> No.10554215

>>10554089
SNAP

somebody in here was saying to buy straddles. me personally I'm only buying calls

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>>10554089
short the vix down to 9

>> No.10554250

>>10554094
Meh, sure. I guess +0.4% is better than nothing.

>>10554114
What's the next catalyst?

>>10554123
>AMRS
Maybe, but this will probably announce dilution immediately after ER. They must manufacturer red ink with their Frankenstein yeast to help print their ER statements.
>ROAD
I like a good busted IPO.

>> No.10554292

>>10554189
If you're going to buy OTM options call & put, that is called a strangle. You pick a %, say 10% +- from current underlying and purchase your calls/puts respectively. This is a riskier strategy; you need the underlying to move more than a straddle.

>>10554176
>>10554154
Yes, you will absolutely lose on 1 of the calls or puts. You lose on both if the underlying does have a big move. The whole point of it is that you don't know which way it will move; you simply believe it will be a big move in either direction. You don't necessarily have to love 100% on 1 of positions. It is up to you to pull out from it when proper.

>> No.10554304

>>10554292
Bear here BTW so you can shit on me for being a Tripfag

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>>10554250
earnings report on 8-13 and a drug called GR-MD-02 that has promise in treating non-alcoholic liver cirrhosis

>> No.10554375

>>10554306
Seems legit but they also look like they're ready for a round of dilution. Last Q they had just enough cash for 3 months of cash burn..

>> No.10554442

>>10554306
ah the NASH meme
Who is going to get it first ?
GLPG ?
ICPT ?
GALT ?

>> No.10554459

>>10552783
>namefag
>complains about general

>> No.10554480

>>10553985
KLAC carried me so hard last week. I blew nearly all of it on ATVI calls though

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>>10553437
thanks, insight much apreciated. We have same bullish bias, wanted to bait out to hear out bear minds

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>>10554480
you pushed your luck

>> No.10554583
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>>10554555

>> No.10554600

>investing in individual stocks
>ever
This is such a bad idea I can't imagine why so many people fall for this shit. Yes you all feel great that you're making a shit ton of money right now, but that's because the market has been on an upward trend for over a decade and is due for a correction.

The only reliable and safe way to make money long term is through indeces and funds.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/02/24/investing/warren-buffett-annual-letter-hedge-fund-bet/index.html

>> No.10554711

>>10554600
Individual retail investors are not hedge funds. The latter have tons of money and they cannot buy or sell into small companies without drastically impacting the price and are limited as to how much they can buy, legally.

A individual can easily go into and out of positions. Hedge funds cannot. You can exit your entire position in the blink of an eye and sell if a stock doubles or sell if the stock dips 5%. Hedge funds cannot. They are so large their results start to mirror the broader performance of the stock market because they run out of stocks to put money into.

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>>10554600
yeah whatever guy

>> No.10554766
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Who let this boomer on the internet again?

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>>10548923
>>10548929
terribly small amount of reading recommendations

i bet you only read 1 book a week, like some sort of low-IQ brainlet

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rq9DS_rEFIy8JrEeiDDqRhrviAy0Nnqj

and thats not even including good books to read for life advice, like the autobiography of benjamin franklin, or marcus aurelius's Meditations


you should be able to read at least one book a day, or youre never going to make it brah

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>>10554459
>calling a tripfag a namefag

is /smg/ noob central or something? so many fucking newfriends this summer

>> No.10554831

>>10554600
lol enjoy your 5% yearly gains

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>>10554831
even a conservative fund beats that

>> No.10554927

>>10554900
Why would anyone choose such a slow fund? It's easy to find another that will beat it

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>>10554600
i cant hear you over the sound of all these gains wannabe boomer

>> No.10554944

>>10553647
pro tip: the finance education won't help much. Trading is a different kind of animal. Better to rip off this bandage right away rather than pulling your hair out at the irrationality of the market relative to any particular company's financials.

>> No.10554952

I'm decided
I'm leaving the FTSE MIB to hop on the superior burger markets

>> No.10554961

>>10554927
it's a more diverse fund and intentionally setup to not have significant change in either direction. The idea is that it will grow steadily at approximately the same rate as the market, but if the market crashes then the fund won't crash by the same amount.

>>10554942
good luck with that strategy in a bearish market.

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10554995

I will be genuinely surprised if the Dow can fill this gap this week.

I'm not seeing it.

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>>10554952
enjoy your infinite growth friend

>> No.10555115

>>10554089
SVXY paying a dividen in 2 weeks get in now

>> No.10555144

question why doesnt everybody just buy dividend paying equities the day before the snapshot then sell afterwards into more, and get dividends almost every day? Prices dont moon and tank before and after dividend snapshot day

>> No.10555183

>>10555115
That shit pays a dividend? How is that possible?

>> No.10555197

>>10555144
they do though, the div gets priced into the share price

>> No.10555209

>>10555183
Anon, I...

>> No.10555250

>>10555144
It doesn't really work.
You'd break even buying before the ex-div date and selling at a loss after and sitting on resettling funds if you have RH or paying brokerage fees if you don't use RH. Also you have to sell stock or sit in cash when it's not divy season.
Give it a whirl and try and see. You'll just break even.

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>>10553647
trading isnt about knowing how business and economics work, its about knowing how you react to good and/or bad news

when your long term pick drops suddenly, will you panic and sell, only to realize it was a mistake? when you hit your profit target will you get greedy and convince yourself that it will continue to rise, and hold onto it as it crashes eating up all of your gains? will you ignore other's advice because of your perfect TA, then watch the moon mission take off without you on board? will you find the buy of the century, only to watch it crash into the floor and delist?

the biggest obstacle to trading isnt math, it isnt the markets, its not even the other investors
the biggest obstacle in trading is you

you as in the decisions you will make in the future, you as in the decisions youve made in the past
not you in this moment right now, but the you who overslept and wakes in a panic at 11am and panic buys something when its already surpassed your target price. its the fight against the you in a few months, or few years, who has become apathetic to the losses those heavy bags are causing, so you just continue holding as the price drags down more
the you who decided to take a chance and gamble on a stock because a coworker suggested it
the you who is drunk as fuck 3 years from now, who accidentally sold one of your long positions

making profits is not a fight between you vs the market, its a fight between you and yourself
or in other terms, you need to predict how your id, your ego, and your super-ego will react in the future (and later, understand how they(you) reacted in the past

you can make money in a bear market, you can lose money in a bull market, the challenge isnt knowing what stock to pick, but how you will react, vs how you should react

the only thing you need to do to make money is buy low and sell high, thats it, nothing more

it's really quite zen

>> No.10555329

>>10555276
Just buy QQQ with a -1% trailing stop loss order. EZPZ

>> No.10555345

>>10555276
deep bruh

>> No.10555364
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>>10555144
tried it, that was my first investing strategy
but it doesnt work at all
price drops to reflect div payout, every single time
and the gains you miss between selling after exdivdate and buying before the next one is a massive chunk of gains
literally every single person whose ever heard of a dividend has thought of this

and even if it did work, theres not enough good companies out there to have a dividend payment every day of the year

>> No.10555403

>>10554555
I've been reverse tithing for years and its been giving my portfolio ebin gains. Can I get any deeper?

>> No.10555426

>>10554942
> What is a Sharpe ratio?

>> No.10555451

>>10555403
Take loans to pay the additional 10%

>> No.10555478
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10555478

Reminder that diversified ETF's will always beat you gamblers in the long run

>> No.10555493

>>10555478
but what if you make your own ETF in essence by buying the god tier companies and avoiding all the trash ones

imagine owning 50/50 AMZN/GE right now
instead of 100/0 AMZN/GE lmao

>> No.10555527

>>10555478
Is it true that ETFs are helping to inflate the market because they invest in everything under their fund regardless of how well the individual companies are doing?
I'm mostly in ETFs
pls no bully

>> No.10555650

>>10555527
Yeah, especially market-cap weighted indexes.

Everyone buying SPY is why FAANG is responsible like 40% of the stock market's overall gains. Highest stock market valuations in US history. Means your ETFs will crash that much harder, as well.

>> No.10555662

>>10555493
That's what (active) fund manager have tried for many years and they never succeed (consistently). A great deal of the 'lmao' companies actually make great returns.

>>10555527
You could say that, but on the other hand 'popular' stocks are probably over-represented in active funds

>> No.10555678

>>10555276
Zen was originally a philosophy of slaughter and disfigurement !

>> No.10555736

>>10555650
I can buy that dip though, r-right?

>>10555662
>'popular' stocks are probably over-represented in active funds
You mean like, mutual funds over representing something like Apple?

>> No.10555746

>>10555276
that's pretty much the gist of it, yep. Also don't get caught in the trap of getting mad about market manipulation. Assume (correctly) that everything is rigged and run a strategy that takes that in to account. If you have reason to believe a stock is under coordinated short attack, for instance, you shouldn't sit there hodling like a moron because you are an ever so virtuous long hodler. Sell that shit or better yet join the shorts if the chart has room to drop. Just remember shorting near year low is the same as fomoing in near year high.

>> No.10555749

>>10555736
>You mean like, mutual funds over representing something like Apple?
Probably. I'm not sure how transparent active funds are about their holdings but you could compare with MSCI world which holds a bit less than 2.5% in AAPL

>> No.10555767
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>>10555276
this guy gets it.

>> No.10555774

>>10555749
Okay, so you say "on the other hand" meaning what? That mutuals will tank just as hard as ETFs could?

>> No.10555793
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Rate my boomer holdings.
The stocks I'll be adding over the next few months are only KDP until I have 10 shares

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>>10555276
Thank you for this, genuinely. /smg/ needs more like you.

>> No.10555812

>>10555276
Capped and saved

>> No.10555820

>>10555774
Yes. You're asking whether shitty companies are over-represented in index ETF's which will invest regardless of fundamentals. My answer is probably yes, but stock that are popular (because of past performance for example) are probably over-represented in active funds compared to index ETF's. In other words, those active funds are probably buying overpriced stocks which will not perform that well in the future.

>> No.10555850

>>10555820
>In other words, those active funds are probably buying overpriced stocks which will not perform that well in the future.
Okay, that makes sense.
So in that case, be it ETF or mutual fund both aren't the best choice and I don't know much about individual stocks so maybe, wait it out a bit? Do some reading instead?
I've been basically just buying the ETF meme but it seems like everyone is doing that at a very high rate.

>> No.10555862

>>10555793
3/10 boomer. GE is not that much of a boomer stock anymore as its dividend has been cut by quite a lot and the stock price is very volatile. Does RAD even pay dividends? Stock chart looks too scary for boomers.

>> No.10555877

>>10555862
Fair, I'll categorize myself as autistic degenerate boomer

>> No.10555890

>>10555793
Get out of RAD. I got out this week. There's a vote coming up next week I believe that might tank the stock.

It's the Albertsons merger.

>> No.10555901

>>10555850
I'm in ETF's as well. If you're not buying sector ETF's, there's not much of a problem. For example, MSCI world is in pretty much all the developed countries stock markets. It's pretty unlikely all stocks in the developed markets get overpriced due to too much demand for World ETF's. If you're in sector ETF's, it's more likely you're riding hypes. I would say stick with the ETF's, they provide good diversification for a low price. If you compare ETF's to any other funds, you really need to take into account costs (total expenditure ratio). A 1% difference in costs adds up to an insane difference over 10+ years.

>> No.10555904

I've decided if I make enough money this year in the market I will buy a $2k sex doll

>> No.10555905

>>10555793
Contrarian investing usually don't work out well anymore. Even Buffet mostly quit this kind of cigar butt investing. Least GE has it's spin-offs going for it and RAD has, idk, somebody might acquire them all the sudden. SNAP is totally worthless and you should sell this.

>> No.10555910

>>10555890
I know about the potential merger, I'm going to ride this wave into the sunset.
If it crashes I'll average down

>> No.10555931

Where do I start? I wanna save my future and all I have is 100$

>> No.10555978

So if I straddle SNAP isn't it basically guaranteed money? If it moves ~10%, although it averages much more, in either direction, one option generally goes down 75% while the other is up 300-400%. So if it does as it has done for the last 5 ERs you will make money

>> No.10555988

>>10555910
You really want to own a struggling pharmacy and a struggling grocery chain?

>> No.10555991

>>10555931
Can you set aside a fixed amount every week/month? I would recommend you to buy an ETF such as MSCI World or MSCI Emerging Markets if you want more risk. Then, just buy the same amount every single month (or week), regardless of market circumstances. If you can, you can buy extra if the market goes down by 10, 20 and/or 30 percent.

Also, some important questions are:
> What is your investment goal?
> How long is your horizon? In other words, how long until you need to take the money out of your investment account?

>> No.10556013

>>10555978
Probably the IV is quite high and you'll risk losing everything if the stock doesn't move. A strangle would cost you less.

>> No.10556116

>>10555988
Honestly you're probably right desu. Monday morning I'll probably switch it into Kraft and Dr pepper for some comfy holds

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>>10555767
Now if only I could get those sweet gains like last (calendar) year

>> No.10556241

>>10556116
It might work, since grocery sector is in a horrible slump of a business cycle and a recession would send more people into these bottom-market type businesses, but the problem is you'll probably be sitting on them for a couple years and the merger, other things will disrupt their already underwhelming finances.

Better things to do with your money unless you really go full boomer and buy and hold.

>> No.10556327

>>10554815
I just woke up, and I like namefag better, so suck my cock.
t. newfag circa '12

>> No.10556347

>>10556127
That is awesome. Congratulations on that.
Also: who called you? Have you called them back?

>> No.10556510
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Do you trade to fill the void /smg/?

>> No.10556554

>>10556510
yes it am only thing that veils void behind everything
its the risking money that do the trick

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>According to the Complaint, the Company made false and misleading statements to the market. Helios and Matheson was promoting the future profitability and high valuation of MoviePass throughout the class period. The MoviePass business model could not be sustained, and the Company would run out of capital. Based on these facts, the Company’s public statements about its business prospects and operations were materially false and misleading during the class period. When the market learned the truth about Helios and Matheson, investors suffered damages.

Lol

>> No.10556652

>>10555276
So what's the point of all the stock valuation techniques I've been studying for two years then?
God, the irrationality of the market is exactly why I'm going into corporate finance.

>> No.10556670

>>10556652
The irrationality is just a symptom of being late in the cycle. Tons of dumb millenial money is flowing in.

>> No.10556678

>>10556554
you trains?

>> No.10556872

>>10549817
>But I agree, Alps are very pretty. Here it is the pic from the town where I got the house.
>If you manage to find me on AirBnB, feel free to stop by whenever you want, I'll make you a special discount. Something like 50%
Beautiful place. You're very kind anon. How much would you consider selling your house for? Not sure if you'll see this, but still worth a try.

>> No.10556891

They just tried to assassinate President Maduro of Venezuela with a drone strapped with explosives.

That's the third assassination attempt on a world leader in just two months. Ethiopia and Zimbabwe being the first two.

Really heating up. I can see that Black Swan event happening any day now.

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>>10556872
>How much would you consider selling your house for?
It's not on sale atm, need them rents.
But of course a proposal around some millions would make me change my mind. Still, I'm sure you can find a cheaper place in the same town

>view from the terrace

>> No.10556993

>>10556745

pls respond

>> No.10557011
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>>10556891
>Implying these are not USA sponsored events, and that they will have any impact on markets
>Implying it's not priced in already
>Implying you don't own a bunch of defense stocks to profit off the blood of 3rd world peasants

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>>10556510
>weekend
>No reason to wake up tomorrow
>no reason to go to sleep either

>> No.10557016

>>10556993
Open an investing account online or through a bank or use robinfeels. Put cash monies in account. Buy stocks.

>> No.10557022

>>10556971
location of pic?

>> No.10557024
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>>10556510
I used to before I found the faith & love of Jesus Christ.

>> No.10557030

>>10556971
is this in italy? if it's switzerland i'm sure you could find someone to drop a couple million easy

>> No.10557032

>>10549817
>If you manage to find me on AirBnB, feel free to stop by whenever you want, I'll make you a special discount. Something like 50%
holy shit really? so how much would it be if i wanted to stay for about 4-5 days?

>> No.10557045

>>10556993
Open an accountant with a brokerage. Look at the OP >>10548508

You can trade yourself or have a stock broker assist you (pretty much any brokerage outside of Robinhood & similar). A brokerage assisted trade will cost you more than a trade you do yourself.

>> No.10557060

>>10557011
>Implying you don't own a bunch of defense stocks to profit off the blood of 3rd world peasants

Damn, you just made me remember the time I missed out buying Raytheon when it was at 80.

>> No.10557112

>>10557016
>>10557045
hmm okay thank you lads

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I think I might take a crack at the livestreaming thing in a couple hours -- I guess a practice round for Saturday August 11th at 9:30pm EST

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>>10557030
Italy, border with switzerland.

>>10557032
Yeah, special discount for /smg/ buddies.
Price really depends from the season and I don't take guests who stay less than 5 days. But 5 days for you would be something around 250 EUR (290 USD) with the 50% /smg/ discount. But mind you, the more people you bring along the higher the price goes.
Also beware, if you come in winter it will snow. A WHOLE FUCKING LOTS. The town is 1500 m of altitude. Has a fucking huge ski resort next to the house. You can even go to switzerland directly by skiing.
Plus, awesome stuff to eat. The building you see in >>10556971 is a dairy, you can see them working every night on the cheese they will sell the day after.

>>10557022
Italy, Valle d'Aosta, Valtournenche.

>> No.10557191

>>10557140
Italy, Valle d'Aosta, Valtournenche.

how much are you asking for the property? The view looks almost exactly like what I want -- there was a scene in Band of Brothers where 3 US military troops end up shooting someone in a small lodge with a view that was similar to what you have. I have wanted a view similar to that since I saw Band of Brothers.

>> No.10557224

>>10554089
SBUX buy on the 7th, iirc .36 div on the 8th. Unless they do something retarded in the next 4 days it should be safe quick buck

>> No.10557254

>>10557011
This. Looks like the CIA is at it again.

>> No.10557260

>>10557191
Told you my dude, it's not on sale at the moment. Although an offer around 2M USD would probably change my mind... Still, I believe the current value would be around 600k USD after the renewals.

I really don't remember that band of brothers part, post pic.

>> No.10557287

>>10556510
Do something that’s exciting and dangerous but also helps people, like firefighting. I think I would’ve an heroed long ago if it weren’t for that.

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>>10557260
I think you may have been talking with someone else. It was the first time I asked if it was on sale. What do you charge per night for AirBnB?

>> No.10557292

>>10557140
>Price really depends from the season and I don't take guests who stay less than 5 days. But 5 days for you would be something around 250 EUR (290 USD) with the 50% /smg/ discount. But mind you, the more people you bring along the higher the price goes.
thanks i'm pretty interested i'm going to talk to my family to see if any of them want to go

>> No.10557324

>>10556971
I have family in Feldkirch and Schlins in Austria. They make me jelly with all the pictures they send.

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>>10557134

>> No.10557355

Anyone investing in AGI startups?

>> No.10557418

>>10550231
That is NOT a rat

>> No.10557480
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>>10557291
Around 80 to 100 EUR per night, depending on season, number of guests etc.

>>10557292
Well a trip to Italy is always a good idea. Still, getting on a plane for that many hours to stay only 5 nights is a bit sad.

>>10557324
Sounds like it's time to visit the family and crash at their place.

Here, have a "town" (more like a couple of houses) you can only reach on foot in the area.

>> No.10557521

>>10557343
I'm not killing myself lol
If you want people to fucking dial into a livestream though, you gotta start putting the time out there a solid week or two ahead. That's the reason for a focus on a specific time.

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>>10557480
>>10556971
>that feel when want to turn these places into smoldering graveyards -_-;

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>>10557534
No worries, mudslimes will take care of that in a few years. And they are way more efficient than you

>that hidden chapel in the trees on the left

>> No.10557553

>>10557534
Woah there, settle down, Hitler.

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>>10557553

>> No.10557606

>>10557553
>>10557534
>>10557546
The worst thing in the world is if I'm actually right.

The worst thing is that every day I become even more sure I've been right.

>> No.10557656

>>10557480
Yea I wish lol. That area sounds like a dream.

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>>10556510

>> No.10557705

>>10556510

I trade to fill the void in my bank account

>> No.10557715

>>10556510
Trading is the worst. You are rewarded for behaving less human against other humans.

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>>10557546
kek that make me feel better
the ironic death of being barred alive by beautiful land am satisfy

>>10557606
>>10557553
what, kek

>>10557715
mobs dont think, they not human

>> No.10557790

>>10557715
But greed is good.

>> No.10557800 [DELETED] 

>>10557778
I wrote out a basic AGI architecture in a few minutes and it was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Starting a mentalbreakdown for a few hours. It was just very high level though so no evidence it works. I'm just crazy.

>> No.10557823
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>>10557778

>> No.10557857

>>10557778
Optimal trading is achieved by preying on human emotion while minimizing your own except for modeling purposes. Then also noticing stupidity in their reasoning.

It's basically predatory behavior on humans.

>> No.10557861

>>10557715
stocks are a necessary evil

>>10557778
Imagine being in the middle of literally nowhere.
Beautiful landscape. Nature only. Snow, open fields. Only a wooden roof on your head.
No net, no computers, no phones, no TV, no gas. Pure boredom. Isn't it basically death?
I really want to kidnap you and leave you there, forcing a healthy lifestyle on you. You don't even speak a single world of the language that the other few people who live there speak. No way to go back. I'm sure it'd be torture. And the best is that after a few months you'd get used to it and become a normie.

>> No.10557884

>>10557861
Yes, but if you can do good at stocks there are many other things you could do good at while benefiting society. Unless you are just running a major hedge fund or pension. A retail trader has no impact.

>> No.10557898

>>10556510
trading created the void

>> No.10557924

Most of the time I do the opposite of what Le reddit and SMG says and I’ve been relatively profitable. No one here has said to buy $SNAP calls... only to straddle as it’s a flip of the coin which direction things will go. The 2 minute shareholder meeting, the failure of basically every initiative they’ve undertaken, I’m truly curious to know how anything other than stellar user numbers will hold this stock up in the wake of Facebook destruction. Maybe just the fact that tards are paying for private access to porn streams?

>> No.10557941

>>10557861
Stocks are not evil. It is the fulfillment of man's nature to the highest degree possible within a society, alongside having a family. Literally the pinnacle of man's works.

>> No.10557957

>>10557941
>>10557941
Mankind's clock is ticking.

>> No.10557993

>>10557987
>>10557987
>>10557987
>>10557987

baked, MIGRATE

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>>10556347
Thanks! My buddy, just went over to see him and his newborn, so cute

>>10556327
Stills bugs my autism
T. Oldfag from '08 or '09 (honestly don't remember, life is suffering)

>>10556510
Is there even any other reason to trade?

>> No.10558282

>>10548508
Just made my first buy ever this Monday. 11 shares of FB. Am I a retard?

>> No.10558568

>>10557480
>Well a trip to Italy is always a good idea. Still, getting on a plane for that many hours to stay only 5 nights is a bit sad.
i would have my family go and it's not easy to pull them together to do things for a long period of time