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[Anonymous No.10543417]

Are people really that retarded that they believe anything some obscure company says that has no authentic proof to back its claims?


https://www.reddit.com/r/Vechain/comments/9491ff/daily_vechain_discussion_august_03_2018/

[Anonymous No.10543432]

>>10543417
no
where's your authentic proof to back the claims it's a scam?
oh yeah
right

[Anonymous No.10543448]

>>10543417
shut up retard china president xi jingping is asking a no-name 1 year old startup with no publicly working product to accomplish all of china's goods tracking goals and you know it. everybody knows it.

[Anonymous No.10543449]

>>10543417
lol

[Anonymous No.10543509]

>>10543432
This alone + cck + lbank + token split + lottery + warcraft tier thor meme marketing nodes, tells you everything about this centralized fake volume chink insider traded pos scam.

[Anonymous No.10543583]

>>10543432
Vitalik once said on a now deleted thread but can still be found if you scroll through vitaliks reddits history

" have heard the name and met some of the people in china but know almost nothing about what vechain is. I invested nothing into them and am not an advisor"


Vechain claimed a false partnership, they said Vitalik was their advisor and Vitalik immediately said no and Vechain ended up doing damage control and deleted their tweets regarding it and then updated after people asked why
Vechian then wsaid " ohhh vitalik was ex advisor of a company that is now partnered with vechain"

as for BMW(rumour is true) start up garage and China national level partnerships, they're pretty much self explantory, if you believe they got their hands on national level partnerships despite Xi ruthlessly cracking down on blockchain, then you're a retard confirmed.

[Anonymous No.10543649]

>>10543583

[Anonymous No.10543752]

>>10543583

there's one china company that actually did gain a national level partnership today, but it never gets talked about here because it has no shills and has flown under the radar. I'll leave the name as an exercise for the reader.

[Anonymous No.10543756]

>>10543649
Do you have any idea what they were implying when they announced this? They were basically trying to create a giant FOMO that they were in a big business with BMW.

Investors started emailing BMW to find out if it is the truth and do you know what Vechain tweets "please don't email BMW" aka "we will be exposed just buy our bags that we are dumping and calling them whales"

JFL at start up garage.

[Anonymous No.10543773]

>>10543752
Crypto cannot gain a foothold while the nationawide ban is in place, there are warnings for Hong Kongers too despite them being free from China's economic laws.
I will believe it when i see a Chinese media reporting the partnership, not some crypto news site reporting false info like they did for vechain.

[Anonymous No.10543800]

>>10543509
not authentic proof of a scam
>>10543583
>if you believe
not authentic proof of a scam

you fucking kids are bad at this
CMON
FUD BETTER OR GTFO
FUCKKKKKKK

[Anonymous No.10543839]

>>10543800

so the proof you want is china mentioning no partnership with vechain when they don't even know about its existence?

Nice try shill.

[Anonymous No.10543872]

>>10543839
no i'm looking for any verifiable, viable proof that vechain is scamming people. not memey biz fud points that don't actually prove anything.

fud is fud
proof is proof

[Anonymous No.10543900]

>>10543756
>JFL at start up garage.
what about it? seems legit pretty good to be a part of

[Anonymous No.10543906]

>>10543417
Imagine being this affraid of a coin success

[Anonymous No.10543918]

>>10543872
You think bitconnect just admitted to being a scam? Get a grip on reality vetard. You're on the titanic, and you're just cheering on as the captain drives straight into an iceberg. PLEASE HOLD VECHAIN I BEG YOU. THE WOJACKS WILL BE SAVAGE

[Anonymous No.10543937]

>>10543900
Never understood the BMW fud. The program is legit and selective and 90% of start-ups end up winning BMW contracts at the end. Anyone can apply but being selected is a big deal.

[Anonymous No.10543945]

>>10543918
Yeah well why do you care so much anon?

[Anonymous No.10543954]

>>10543918
anything other than pure speculation will do for now
i'll then compare its credibility to that of multiple billion dollar companies and VCs

[Anonymous No.10543975]

>>10543752
cpchain is a chink scam aswell. nobody gives a shit you naive retard. buy btc and monero. everything else is heading to zero.

[Anonymous No.10544010]

>>10543945
Because we hate you vetards, your all annoying fucking mongoloids who havent been in this market long at all.

>>10543954
Keep your purse tight bitch. You'll need that tampon when your asshole gets blown open by sunny's lil eggroll.

[Anonymous No.10544022]

>>10544010
>ven cultists are so emotional

[Anonymous No.10544075]

>>10544010
I understand anon, witnessing others success can be annoying

[Anonymous No.10544281]

>>10544075
>success

Down 80+%

[Anonymous No.10544333]

>>10544281
Yeah if bought at ATH it's true but buying now though...

[Anonymous No.10544372]

>>10544333
Is you buy in now, you’ll only be down 30% by next week. Not bad investing anon.

Everybody is on to this scam. 0 pump from this “huge” news today. It’s dead anon.

[Anonymous No.10544417]

>>10543945
because you vefaggots ruined this fucking board. you brought your cck bullshit along with an army of normie retards that are still lingering around to this day.

[Anonymous No.10544464]

>>10544417
Checked

[Anonymous No.10544483]

>>10544417
>Things that never happened
Every VEN thread on /biz/ has always been fud or ironic fud

[Anonymous No.10544492]

>>10544372
So you suggest waiting for next week?

[Anonymous No.10544527]

>>10544492
I suggest not buying this shit at all. People seem to be catching on to sunny lus shit. Their iot tech is non existent. Everything is hype. Literally 0 evidence to back anything they have claimed to date.

[Anonymous No.10544547]

>>10544417
you're basically talking about yourself anon
anyone here for the first time after 2007 is the problem
used to have fun here but now this entire site is just a cyclical mess
day after day same threads; same results

[Anonymous No.10544686]

>>10544527
You really think they faked their iot? You should contact dnvgl if you have that kind of info they might reward you

[Anonymous No.10544754]

>>10544686
Not faked, But it’s literally a fucking claw game that looks to be a 8th grade science project. But hey, they had vechain hoodies in the video right!!!!

[Anonymous No.10544791]

>>10544754
Ok so it's not faked then thanks for clarifying

[Anonymous No.10544842]

>>10543417
stop being such a pussy and kys

[Anonymous No.10544843]

>>10544791
Enjoy tracking your aids medication on the vechain blockchain

[Anonymous No.10545730]

damn vetards got completely BTFO itt

[Anonymous No.10545811]

>>10545730
how

[Anonymous No.10546430]

HOLY SHIT. YOU GUYS REALLY WANT US TO SELL.
FUD FUD FUD.
IM NOT SELLING FUCKING FAGGOTS, IM RIDING THIS CHINK TRAIN UNTIL THE END.
VET $0.10 EOY.

[Anonymous No.10546475]

>>10543945
I told you faggots in the last thread that we are in a trade war against the Orient. Did you know that treason is punishable by death under US law? Fucking chink shill.

[Anonymous No.10546486]

Vechain is the most obvious scam since bitconnect,.just waiting for there next announcement to be a picture of a pyramid explaining their core business. Actually it's worse than a pyramid, literally prefer Tron.

[Anonymous No.10546509]

>>10546486
don't worry anon, your high school english classes start back soon enough. summer's nearly over.

[Anonymous No.10546544]

>>10544417
lol you are so fucking butthurt. How does one ruin a board? VeChain threads are far outnumbered by LINK, REQ, and other meme coins. Why does VEN generate so much hatred for you? If you don't like it, just scroll past.

your persistence and vitriol reeks of psychological issues, not of some backhanded empathy for the VEN bagholders.

[Anonymous No.10546595]

>>10546544
The issue is it's an obvious scam and that means it brings brainlets into the fold, shitting up the board. Link marines have quality memes, reqtards have self awareness, Vechain users are just plain retarded. They shit up the board with their relentless pursuit of idiocy, they can't converse unless you count the saliva dripping from their chin as discourse. The only good thing about vechain is the inevitable mass suicide that lays at the end of the rainbow. Hopefully the last of the Thor that they have accrued can afford some rope or perhaps bleach to make it quick.

[Anonymous No.10546630]

I sincerely hope all you vechain brainlets lose all your money and die of cancer you fucking scums

[Anonymous No.10546645]

>>10546595
it's not an obvious scam, but rather 900m overhyped vaporware

the FUD to shill ratio on this board is at least 2:1 for VEN. The few people who ardently defend it are from leddit. Just go to the r/vechain sub and shitpost. That's where the truly deluded reside. Listening to you cunts over and over again is painstaking and indicative of psychological damage

[Anonymous No.10546663]

>>10546595
>vechain shills are the ones shitting up the board
>in a vechain fud thread
>10+ vechain fud threads today
really makes you think

[Anonymous No.10546693]

>>10546663
Shut the fuck up cunt and go back to your cancer ridden leddit community where cunts suck each other off of anything sunny poo says

[Anonymous No.10546727]

>>10546693
>baby's first anonymous internet experience

[Anonymous No.10546729]

>>10546630
>>10546693
kek so let's assume your proposition is correct. VeChain is a complete scam and it's going to zero. Clearly the people invested were too stupid to see that.

why do you express visceral hatred towards people who were stupid enough to invest in a scam? Why do you wish death upon them? They had no choice in being born this stupid

you are projecting your personal emotional trauma onto people you will never know for pretty meaningless reasons

[Anonymous No.10546731]

>>10546693
>Exposed, again
>Gets mad
lmao what a fag

[Anonymous No.10547079]

>>10546729
Now your only rebuttal is don't be mean to idiots on an anonymous forum. Haha get chinked, oh, it appears you already have.

[Anonymous No.10547703]

>>10543417
Kys nigger

[Anonymous No.10548579]

>>10546729
We hate such people because we fell for the same trap in the past.
This board had more shills and pro vechain posts in the past and anyone who questioned is was brutally shunned, now the tides have turned and we are just "mindless haters" when the reality is, Vechain is just exposed.
They have no product
No proof of their partnerships
NOTHING
and that is why the coin is being dumped hard.

keep buying the "tasty discounted" VET

[Anonymous No.10548617]

>>10548579
stop being such a fucken pussy and kys.

[Anonymous No.10548664]

So most of biz sold their Ven, even the biggest of brainlets but of course they waited till much lower prices to sell.
The only ones left are delusional tier REQ holders. They will have their time too anons, i've seen it with my own eyes. Once VEN gets so butchered like what happened with REQ they will start shit talking it as well. Just wait till it becomes 10 cents or so

[Anonymous No.10548665]

>>10546475
You are a fucking burger.

[Anonymous No.10548711]

>>10548664
This but Sunny is a master marketing dickhead desu.
He keeps coming out with ways to manipulate the coin to keep it alive(Daily lotteries, 100M airdrop, 0.5% of balance reward)
if he had done this in the open stock market, he would be jailed but in crypto, there is no regulation so he is getting away with it and shit tier investors are too blinded by the freebies(the rewards are literally worth $20 and you have tiny chance of winning it)

Now he came up with the Xi Jinping lie.
talking about some import expo where Xi will be present and 2000+ other companies. He might take advantage of this news and retards will believe Xi came for Vechain when Xi came for the expo itself.
This is once again false shady misleading marketing by Vechain like the "rumour is true" which they tried to indicicate and create a fomo to dump bags desu or the vitalik advisor shit until vitalik warned them not to misuse his name(vitalik was an ex advisor of a company vechain was now partnered with)

I mean look at these tactics.
How can one believe Vechain is genuine when they constantly do shit like this.

[Anonymous No.10548758]

>>10548711
soon you will be able to track the meds you have for your multitude of mental issues you have. be better if you just kys though but you are too much of a pussy. vechain built a city in your head and they are all living rent free.

[Anonymous No.10548798]

>>10548758
wanna fight!

[Anonymous No.10548863]

>basing your system on PoA with secret node operators
>using stupid cringy names like "power of Thor"
>claiming you're the most adopted crypto with 0 proof and 1000 blockchain transactions a day
>having 75% of your volume on a chink wash trading site and praising them for it
>claiming the nodes are decentralized even though one "foundation" picked them all
>setting up a bullshit "foundation" with handpicked insiders that dumps propaganda all day
>recruiting the shittiest possible ICOs and calling yourself a platform
>claim your poaching talent of ETH by forking ETH with no devs
>not being able to spell check your medium bullshit spam
>having a fanbase that discusses cryptic "predictions" by a twitter account and a telegram fag
>thinking VTHO or whatever faggot coin it's called now is going to be worth anything with no demand and unlimited supply
>thinking "billion dollar partnerships" means billions in revenue
>thinking PwC doesn't have other partnerships
>diluting your main coin to copy TRON scamshit
>offering giveaways and contests after your coin shits the bed
>claiming you have a product that no one can publically use
>releasing financial reporting that's impossible to verify or audit as real
>bragging about retard angel investors like Tim Draper (Theranos? Six Californias?) as geniuses
>thinking Western companies are going to trust a chink scamcoin while we're in a trade war

Pic related. Guess who?!

[Anonymous No.10548912]

[Anonymous No.10548921]

>>10543417
I thought he killed himself.

[Anonymous No.10549077]

[Anonymous No.10549116]

>>10543752
Matrix AI

[Anonymous No.10549177]

>>10548863
I seriously hope someone goes full journalist mode and exposes the piece of shit sunny desu
This is getting out of hand already, the way he is openly manipulating and the retards are still licking his diarrhea filled arsehole clean and spreading the cancer here

[Anonymous No.10549188]

>>10543417
Anybody who invests in Vechain is a retard

Also Vechain shills are cancer and they have the most toxic crypto community, can't wait until their piece of shit scam chink coin goes to zero, probably in six months

[Anonymous No.10549217]

>>10548579
>No proof of their partnerships
Does DNV GL not count, or something? Is VeChain FUD basically FUD for DNV GL, or what? Is the suggestion that they’re scammed? It can’t be that they’re lied to, they literally have two seats on the governance board for VeChain. So they have to be scamming everyone too, and that seems...ridiculous, they’re a hundred year old company whose business is literally trust.

VeChain’s Steering Committee:

CY Cheung
PwC Cybersecurity and Fintech Partner

George Kang
CEO Greater China Region, DNV GL Business Assurance

Jay Zhang
CFO/CoFounder VeChain

Margaret Rui Zhu
Assistant Professor City University of Hong Kong

Peter Zhou
Chief Scientist/ VeChain Partner

Renato Grottola
Global Digital Transformation Director, DNV GL Business Assurance

Sunny Lu
CEO/CoFounder VeChain

[Anonymous No.10549221]

>>10549217
>muh DNV GL PwC partnership

It doesn't mean shit and your coin is a scam

[Anonymous No.10549225]

>>10549116
Please don't tell me you are falling for another chink scam?

[Anonymous No.10549233]

100% of all of these vechain fud posts are all bait. There no way anybody, even on this board which is 90 % retards, could be this dumb to continue to hate on this. It's comedic at this point and I'm ok with keeping the joke going.

[Anonymous No.10549238]

>>10549221
Let’s say it doesn’t mean shit, let’s say you’re right and VeChain literally is a scam and has no real product and will never be used for anything.

Does that mean that DNV GL, a company founded in 1864 whose business is literally in trust, standards and certification, deliberately misled everyone for some purpose? They knowingly scammed everyone since they’re literally in charge of VeChain, sitting on the governing board?

Or are they idiots, and somehow ignorant of VeChain’s empty promises despite the fact that they run the company?

[Anonymous No.10549286]

>>10549238
DNV Gl did not pay market price
They got free millions of tokens from vechain so that vechain can use their name to promote the shitcoin, this is an extremely old tactic in the business world and it is more rampant in Chinese businesses as reported on “the China hustle” documentary.


You’re insane if you think the billionaires are paying market price

[Anonymous No.10549303]

>>10549217
brainlets cant refute this lololol
watch them go mad now

[Anonymous No.10549316]

>>10549286
Read what I wrote, try again. I don’t know who you’re responding to but it can’t be me, nothing I said had to do with paying market price or anything to do with tokens.

[Anonymous No.10549336]

>>10549286
Or are you saying that, again, DNV GL is lying (!!!!) when they put out this article?

https://www.dnvgl.com/news/dnv-gl-buys-stake-in-leading-public-blockchain-service-provider-vechain-as-it-strengthens-commitment-to-raising-trust-and-transparency-through-digital-solutions-119749

This is a quote by the CEO and President of DNV GL. The whole company. Not a Chinese branch. The guy on top, based in Norway:

"DNV GL has been in the business of building trust for more than 150 years and blockchain is the latest way we are using technology to further strengthen this position," said Remi Eriksen, Group CEO & President of DNV GL. "This investment in VeChain is part of our multi-tiered approach of using digital solutions to improve quality, efficiency and transparency in our targeted markets."

Are you saying that the CEO of this 150+ year old company based in Norway is lying, or that he’s a fool? Has to be one, which is it?

[Anonymous No.10549347]

STOP THE FUD YOU FUKKEN SALTY WALTIES I BOUGHT VECHAIN AND THIS THREAD IS HURTING MY BRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

30 MLN SHANGHAIIANS WILL DELIVER VECHAIN MEDS TO ME!!

[Anonymous No.10549373]

>>10549336
Doesn’t mean shit when Vechain is a confirmed shady coin.
You cannot defend what they do.
They go ahead and promote false ads for their shitcoin(BMW, Vitalik) until exposed
Then when their coin starts dying
They start manipulation by offering 100M airdrops and daily lotteries


If vechain was a stock and they practiced this behavior
They would be arrested.
Crypto is unregulated so they’re safe.

It won’t be long until they piss off one of their autist investors who will hunt them down and get them jailed.

[Anonymous No.10549390]

>>10549336
Read my post and try again moron
DNV is only a name that vechain is using.
They paid DNV to allow them to use their name.
DNV gl will never ever pay $4 for 1 obscure coin called VEN.

Sunny made a shit ton of money dumping the coins he got on retarded investors like you who thought they were battling “whale walls”

[Anonymous No.10549394]

>>10549373
This BMW? The company that retweeted this last week?

Do you actually believe the FUD on this board? Half the people here are joking, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.10549404]

>>10549390
Two of their executives sit on the board of governors and the CEO of the entire company promoted their direct investment in the company.

Are you saying that VeChain paid DNV GL to have two of their executives run their company for them and also bought off the CEO of the company headquartered in Norway?

(That’s not what China Hustle was about btw - in that documentary, those scammy companies would pay off subsidiaries, like PwC Shanghai instead of the real PwC. In this case, the real CEO of DNV GL in Norway promoted VeChain)

[Anonymous No.10549438]

VeTards never learn..

[Anonymous No.10549457]

>>10549404
Renato Grottola
Global Digital Transformation Director, DNV GL Business Assurance

His twitter account:
https://twitter.com/rgrottola?lang=en

He sits on VeChain’s governance board. This DNV GL guy is one of the people in charge of VeChain.

Are you saying that VeChain bought this DNV GL executive and he’s lying about this scam because they gave him a bunch of tokens?

Or maybe...just maybe...bear with me here....

DNV GL invested in VeChain because it’s a natural extension of the services they offer and they hope to make money through this venture in the years to come.

[Anonymous No.10549495]

>>10549394
When sunny said “rumour is true” he was trying to imply that he is a big partner of BMW and not part of some garage program you fucking imbecile.

Literally every retard with a decent income can start a startup garage by applying on BMW website

[Anonymous No.10549499]

>>10549457
answer me why the fuck ven does all this stupid retarded shit like tokensplit, lottery, x nodes, warcraft thor names, cck marketing and all other crap to attract fucking round eyes retail investors when their solution is only for enterprises.

these dumb chinks legit piss me off. it wasnt for all above i would have already bought in because dnv is legit so there must be some substance behind ven. i just dont get why they have to do all that retarded shit

[Anonymous No.10549511]

>>10549457
Oh boy
I am sure DNV invested in Vechain aka ERC20 aka 0 original coding to help track wines and apples and oranges lmfaooooo
Brb placing 10 cent sticker and claiming I can track or better yet making a buggy slow app that scans barcodes and claim “revolutionary”

It’s funny how you completely ignore the key points I made about their shady tactics of marketing and how they would be in jail if they practiced this in a stock market.

[Anonymous No.10549512]

>>10549495
https://hbr.org/2017/07/what-bmws-corporate-vc-offers-that-regular-investors-cant
>BMW would not consider a startup unless it has graduated from a prestigious accelerator, has received professional venture funding, or includes a successful serial entrepreneur as part of its senior leadership team.
>Even so, less than 5% of all potential startups will make it past a screening process.

https://en.munich-startup.de/2017/06/26/talk-bmw-startup-garage/

>The next step is to choose the best applicants, meaning market leaders who offer something that we at BMW and our current suppliers do not have yet.
>Startups that work with us have to be better than say Intel, SAP, Qualcomm, or whoever might work in that specific field.

Hard to reconcile that with “every retard with a decent income can start a startup garage”

Try again

[Anonymous No.10549536]

>>10549511
I think their marketing is shit. I don’t think they’d be thrown in jail for it. I think that we can’t trust VeChain on their own, they’re an otherwise unknown startup. I trust DNV GL and I can’t believe that they’d be running a blockchain company that scams people.

[Anonymous No.10549578]

>>10549536
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insider_trading


Read it
These 2 things are active in the Vechain team
It is no secret

And they would be in jail if it was done in a stock market, denying this is a sign of brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10549632]

>>10549578
This is unfortunately true for every single cryptocurrency. There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone who works at any crypto company from buying tokens before they make an announcement. There’s no proof any individual does it but I’m not naive and I would be shocked if no one at VeChain does it, but I’d also be shocked if employees at every other blockchain company didn’t do it given that this space is unregulated.

That there’s insider trading in an unregulated market doesn’t necessarily mean this company isn’t going to grow or that their business partnerships and clients aren’t authentic.

[Anonymous No.10549731]

>>10549578
I have to go but I just wanna say that if you’re genuine I totally see where you’re coming from and a lot of VeChain’s marketing practices and things like the X-Node fuckery really doesn’t sit well with me and in isolation would completely turn me off from this coin. DNV GL’s heavy involvmenent though in not just promoting it, or in usecases, but actually running VeChain itself, makes me reconsider. Personally, my take on VeChain is that they have shitty scammy Chinese antics but that they’re also a serious company with real solutions being backed and partially run by a trusted European company. I also think the majority of the FUD on this board (like regarding BMW) is either just for fun or seriously ill-informed. When I did my own research the majority (but not all) of the FUD falls apart.

[Anonymous No.10549828]

>>10549731
The rare biz post by a non-idiot. Refreshing.

[Anonymous No.10550135]

>>10549828
non-idiot because he agrees to your shit view.

[Anonymous No.10550319]

>>10548664
Ven: Shills fake partnerships with vitalik and bwm among others
Req: Gets shilled by pwc themselves

Yeah like totally the same bro. Pass me the mozzarella.

[Anonymous No.10550576]

>>10550135
>9 posts by this ID

[Anonymous No.10550646]

>>10548579
>Turns out all the FUD fags are mumbling retards who literally bought the top and sold the bottom
Wow color me surprised /biz/ is once again retarded as fuck, guess the real CHINKENING was inside you all along

[Anonymous No.10550663]

Foxyit you are completely subhuman the absolute most pathetic person I’ve ever seen on this board

Again 10 Walton’s to post a selfie so everyone else can see how pathetic the fudster truly looks

[Anonymous No.10551052]

The DNV partnership is legit but their marketing/pump tactics are scam tier. I don't think this is going anywhere for now.
Don't forget that during the dot com boom legit companies invested/partnered with pets.com tier shit, it's just part of booms/bull markets (everybody wants to cash in on the hype).
Technology won't solve China's rampant corruption and forgery "problem" (hint, the government couldn't care less, it puts money in their pocket and fucks over competing economies). Building a reputation for honesty is done by, here it comes, being honest for years, decades.

[Anonymous No.10551239]

>>10551052
You got to love how fudders are lowering the bar, partnerships aren't fake anymore but Vechain is too young to have built a reputation yet? At least this argument makes sense, it's true they'll have to prove their worth

[Anonymous No.10551456]

>>10551239
There are no "fudders" or even worse, paid "fudders". Just people calling out scammy practices of a coin that people have been promoting on this board as being the next big thing.
Step out of this retarded idea that people are trying to bring the price of your shitcoin down by "fudding" on biz.
I simply try to buy low and sell high, and VEN simply isn't an appealing investment at the moment for the reasons I listed.

[Anonymous No.10551503]

>>10551456
Based as fuck

[Anonymous No.10551530]

>>10551456
kek. btfod

[Anonymous No.10551571]

>>10546595
>reqtards have self awareness
8/8 b8

[Anonymous No.10551578]

>>10551456
Funny how you clinged on one word of my post. Fair enough let's say you really are trying to save this board from financial ruin. Let's also say that I agree that Vechain uses malicious marketing practices to keep its token price up (lottery, xnode). Why do you think that, given all the announced clients that will use their block chain, Vet price will not appreciate?

[Anonymous No.10551600]

>>10546595
>ink marines have quality memes,

This so much. The only good OC around Vechain is the sunny lu in the sewer macro. They literally have no memes at all.