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[Anonymous No.10487241]

Clean your room.

[Anonymous No.10487287]

>>10487241
FUCK YOU FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.10487302]

gieb antidepressants and dopamine enhancing drugs plox

[Anonymous No.10487332]

clean your controlled opposition

[Anonymous No.10487378]

>>10487241
Buy my Self-Authoring program.

[Anonymous No.10487415]

Is there any problem he cannot fix?

>do a good job at things
>apply yourself
>be responsible and feel better
>wear a jacket when it's cold outside
>wash your hands before eating
>turn your ringer off when at the cinema

[Anonymous No.10487470]

>>10487415
The point is the explanations as to why those things are important, which makes the difference for people attempting to sort themselves out.

[Anonymous No.10487531]

>>10487470
the point is he's the same as malcom gladwell in that he's found a way to make money by regurgitating common sense advice; but he delivers it in a way in which brainlets get all fuzzy by his delivery system (i.e. vocabulary, tone, etc.) and think he's touching on something new.

[Anonymous No.10487532]

This guy lost me for good when i saw him on his most recent rogan show. He is clearly disturbed and not someone who people should be looking to for guidance. Eating a diet of literally nothing except beef? That's just bizarre I don't care what anyone says.

[Anonymous No.10487589]

>>10487532
What is disturbing is that he clearly uses a lot of skin cream. He's an extremely thin and twitchy old man who is obsessed with keeping his skin youthful, it's no surprise he also comes up with weird and desperate diet attempts to retain youth. His big problem is that he was a loser all his life, and only in the last years has he stumbled onto something that works. But he is aging fast and not able to appreciate it, I'm predicting he will have a lol meltdown shortly.

[Anonymous No.10487650]

Fuck off jew

[Anonymous No.10487664]

>>10487531
common sense is discarded as useless and 'basic' nowadays, which is also one of the points his trying to make. Be emphasising the fundamentals for the people who were robbed out of them, he introduces something of value. the fact that you don't see value in what he says and therefore declare hi as meaningless is what makes hi important, as your view of things is what makes the underclasses rot even more.\
>same as malcom gladwell
>unapologetic namedropping
It's clear now that you're trying to partake in a dick measuring contest instead of making good for people that need help. kys

[Anonymous No.10487680]

>>10487532
Look up Owsley Stanley, he lived to 76 and survived throat cancer eating like that.

[Anonymous No.10487687]

>>10487532
>being this closed minded
1) it made good in his life
2) his willing to experiment on himself to achieve point 1
all this is admirable. by decrying this, you try to reinforce your own worldview bubble that you know doesn't correspond to reality that much, only serves as a device to shield yourself from it.

[Anonymous No.10487694]

>>10487664
you seem like a sensational fuckwit

[Anonymous No.10487699]

>>10487664
>hurr durr Jordan Peterson compelled me to do shit i already knew to do while triggering dem libz

[Anonymous No.10487701]

clean your room bucko bingo bongo. if you drop out of society you're a scumbag loser. keep working like a good slave bungo

[Anonymous No.10487719]

>>10487532
>>10487589
I am not sure what to make off of this. You do know he is only trying out the carnivore diet because his daughter whom virtually eliminated every symptom of her auto-immune disease, told him to? He clearly stated multiple times that it is not advisable and he is only doing this due to his daughter and there is no scientifical evidence to support that it would work.

Am I just getting baited? I don't know.

[Anonymous No.10487740]

>>10487694
You seem like a circlejerking idiot, disconnected from reality.

[Anonymous No.10487751]

>>10487680
A couple of people doing it doesn’t mean it’s healthy. Lots of people smoke a pack of cigarettes daily and live until they’re 90.

[Anonymous No.10487759]

>>10487699
>find some person doing enormous good in people lives
>shit on him, seemingly out of pure unadulterated jealousy. Most likely just inability to understand why his work and delivery is important.

[Anonymous No.10487780]

>>10487694
I don't get it. Why are you so engaged in anti-social behaviour?
You're not really doing yourself a favour, you're just temporarily making yourself feel better by afflicting pain to others to make your own misery bearable, even for just a moment.

Why don't you just watch Jordan's videos and fix your mental health instead? Are you too proud to admit that you're not perfect? Get over yourself.

[Anonymous No.10487799]

>>10487751
No one said it was healthy, and Jordan even advised against doing it.

[Anonymous No.10487804]

>>10487680
>>10487751

Your genes determine how long you live.

[Anonymous No.10487808]

>>10487532
>>10487589
He had skin and health problems for years and years. His daughter had many of the same problems and she managed to fix it by changing her diet, so he did the same and it worked for him too.

[Anonymous No.10487810]

>>10487751
>I won't try anything unless it's 100% tested by an army of human lab rats
>will decry everything that's not tested by an army of human lab rats.
This is the main category of people impeding any scientific progress. All the while clothing themselves as its biggest advocates

[Anonymous No.10487812]

>>10487302
Is it true antidepressants shrink your dick?
>>10487415
>wash your hands before eating
Why?

[Anonymous No.10487831]

>>10487532
>his doing something different that works for him
>must be disturbed

[Anonymous No.10487843]

>>10487740
>>10487740
I side with the other Anon. You seem like a major dunce. I’m not just trying to be mean either. Maybe it’s because you considered Malcolm gladwell to be “namedropping” which suggests you’re clearly not even reading the most germane/banal of literature put out in any field.

[Anonymous No.10487845]

Top laughs @ all the juden peterstein shills itt. The guy is weak, listening to him only ensures you will never make it and will be a butthurt failed "intellectual" barrista enraged at how nobody cares about Jung for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.10487851]

>>10487804
Wait, so environmental factors do not play a part at all? EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.10487852]

>>10487812
Only in the presence of your naked mother
>>10487804
>what is epigenetics?

[Anonymous No.10487877]

>>10487812
>Why?
Because your parents fucked you by never exposing you to any dirt or roughage growing up so now you are a sensitive little fag.

[Anonymous No.10487896]

>>10487810
Really great stretch you did there with the point I was making. Even if I were being that extreme, do you really take anecdotal advice from someone, like Jordan Peterson, who certainly isn’t an expert in biology, nutrition, biochemistry, or anything related, and figure he knows what he’s talking about because it “seems to work for him” and he wrote a completely unrelated book that you read?

[Anonymous No.10487901]

>>10487759
I think his message would make some people really uncomfortable

It's a very easy to be critical/cynical and casually dismiss shit that you know would cause you to be better but might take some real effort, much harder to fail if you don't try and wave away good advice as "too basic" brainlet brainwashing"

People hate being told to do what they know deep inside they should be doing.

[Anonymous No.10487906]

>>10487843
It was namedropping. The inability to differentiate the context those two people executed their vision in makes all the difference that you guys don't seem to recognize.
So, I consider you two dunces as well, and malicious at that. Even if you are unaware of your malice.

[Anonymous No.10487922]

>>10487680
And Inuits and other peoples near the arctic areas have lived off almost exclusively meat diets.

[Anonymous No.10487930]

>>10487804
That was partially my point. Although longevity is much more complex than mere genetics.

[Anonymous No.10487938]

>>10487812
>That ID

[Anonymous No.10487950]

>>10487896
>get burnt while trying to touch the stove
>I'm not an expert in stove-making technology, I'll disregard my sensory aberration and try again

[Anonymous No.10487955]

>>10487851

Only at the extremes. If you smoke a pack of day and drink a liter of vodka everyday, you will obviously shorten your lifespan. But if you eat a perfect diet, you're not going to live to 100 when your ancestors average 75

[Anonymous No.10487959]

>>10487896
Well, he never advised people to follow the diet. He clearly states he has very shallow knowledge in the field and thus wouldn't advise.

[Anonymous No.10487973]

>>10487922
>>10487901
>>10487896
>>10487751

Also I would expect /biz/lets to know better than to trust the food pyramid created by the corrupt institution that is the USDA and based on (((science)))

cmonnn

[Anonymous No.10487977]

All the Cathy Newmen in this thread. Almost the same grasp of what is actually being said.

[Anonymous No.10487978]

>>10487930
>Although longevity is much more complex than mere genetics.

It's really not. It's the strongest determinate. You can kill yourself more quickly through environmental extremes, but you're not going to add any significant amount of time to your life.

[Anonymous No.10487997]

>>10487906
Oh the hypocrisy

>>10487955
So you're saying that the studies done on blue zone areas are a hoax?

[Anonymous No.10488014]

>>10487812
>ID: COPE
Kek

[Anonymous No.10488018]

>>10487241
get a hair transplant

[Anonymous No.10488027]

>>10487997
>So you're saying that the studies done on blue zone areas are a hoax?

No, they actually support what I'm saying.

[Anonymous No.10488043]

>>10488018
Lobsters have regenerative properties, no transplant needed.

[Anonymous No.10488044]

>>10487950
What are you even trying to do here? Compare burning your hand to something as complex as nutrition? I don’t follow.
>>10487959
Then why is his biggest fan, in this thread, trying to imply that a carnivore diet is a good idea because it “worked” for Jordan Peterson?

Do we have blood work from Jordan Peterson of various biomarkers? Is he in an objectively healthy mental space from this diet? Or are we saying an all meat diet is a good idea because Jordan Peterson is doing one?

[Anonymous No.10488054]

>>10487241
Why should I clean my room when my wife can do it for me?

[Anonymous No.10488073]

>>10487978
It is. Blue zones are just one interesting example of MANY of environmental/lifestyle factors increasing longevity.

[Anonymous No.10488098]

>>10488054
From what I gather, Jordan Peterson appeals to lonely guys who are probably largely afraid to talk to women, play lots of video games, and are largely unemployed. You’re probably not his target demographic.

[Anonymous No.10488112]

>>10487532
>Smart person does something i don't understand
Pfff.fppfff lol what an idiot.

[Anonymous No.10488129]

[Anonymous No.10488145]

>>10487978
I’m also not arguing that it isn’t the largest factor. It’s just not the only factor.

[Anonymous No.10488174]

>>10488044
There's a lot of ancedotal evidence that it is good for some people that don't process carbs well, just google it

The problem is that the fuckwits doing nutritional science the last 50 years have been on a misguided crusade against saturated fat so there hasn't been much if any research done on a pure meat (high saturated fat) diet, much in the same way that since Marijuana became a scheduled drug it made it difficult to research its effects through traditional means.

An all meat diet has many similar properties to a low carb or ketogenic diet, however, and there's a lot of newer science coming out that those are actually quite effective at promoting health and curing chronic disease.

We're fucking meat eaters from a biology standpoint, we traded the big gut structures you need to process a non-meat diet for bigger brains so we could kill shit.

[Anonymous No.10488183]

>>10488027
/facepalm

[Anonymous No.10488192]

>>10488073

They're also genetically isolated areas. You can argue their lifestyle has led to increased longevity due to many generations of genetic modification, but that's as far as you can go. If you were to take an American who's family has an average lifespan of 75 years old and have that person spend the majority of his/her life in Okinawa Japan, I doubt that person will live into his/her late 90's. We already know that your odds of getting many cancers and diseases are heavily affected by your genetics.

[Anonymous No.10488223]

>>10488183

You can't take a genetically homogeneous and isolated population and claim that their longevity is mainly due to their lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.10488226]

>>10488044
No one is advising, I am just stating that there might be a correlation between eating solely certain meats and reduction of inflammatory response in the bodies of people with auto-immune diseases.

I furtherly stated that no one really knows the long term effects of such diet, as no SUPER reliable studies have been done, although there are some, however, with small sample sizes.

[Anonymous No.10488236]

>>10488192
Well yea, because that is a huge percentage increase. They’ve done studies of non natives in these regions and natives moving to other areas (especially Sardinians between the US and Sardinia). Increased longevity in Sardinia even in non natives, decreased life expectancy of Sardinians living in NYC.

[Anonymous No.10488275]

>>10488223
Those are still humans. The difference aren't that huge to consider the thing you describe as a major factor, even if it can contribute a wee bit.

[Anonymous No.10488281]

>>10488236

source? link?

[Anonymous No.10488290]

>>10488226
>I furtherly stated that no one really knows the long term effects of such diet, as no SUPER reliable studies have been done
Therefore nobody should try them ever. Especially when they work for what ails them.

[Anonymous No.10488302]

>>10488223
Following that logic, blue-zone studies (which are largely studies of environmental factors and their positive effect on longevity) are invalid?

[Anonymous No.10488322]

>>10487973
No one has mentioned the food pyramid except you.

Just because humans can survive on meat alone, doesn’t mean they should. I doubt you’d feel particularly great doing it anyway.

Also, “there might be a reduction in immune response from an all meat diet.” There also might not be. The nature of “autoimmune disease” is extremely nebulous. My girlfriend suffers from some undiagnosable condition with symptomolagy of autoimmune disorders. Eating a ketogenic diet doesn’t help her and actually exacerbates the way she feels.

[Anonymous No.10488343]

>>10488281
It’ll take me some time to find it. Was reading the study (epidemiological obviously, fwiw) while I was in Sardinia.

[Anonymous No.10488356]

>>10488302

>every study done has good methodology
>every conclusion from a study is correct
>every study done only has one way to interpret the data

[Anonymous No.10488380]

>>10488290
Fine, do a study then if you want. But to me, eating the most expensive and environmentally destructive diet imaginable (that would probably make you feel shitty) because a neurotic psychiatrist said it helped him isn’t a particularly good reason.

[Anonymous No.10488447]

I started the carnivore diet like 1.5 weeks ago. I did a blood test beforehand so I could compare how it will be later. So far I'm feeling awesome and I enjoy eating meat more and more.
Here's my diary about it: https://steemit.com/carnivore/@ctrl-shift/going-carnivore

[Anonymous No.10488466]

>>10488322
The food pyramid is responsible for the core beliefs of our doctors/scientists/nutritionists/health teachers etc, kind of like how if you argue with a christian they may not mention the bible but all the knowledge they have is derived from the bible at some level whether directly or indirectly.

I've been doing low carb/ketogenic type meals for around 2 years on and off and for me it has had huge benefits on energy/mental clarity/fitness etc. Some people with certain ancestries (example: northern europeans) who were late to adopt agriculture (and the carb based diet that goes with farming wheat) do much better cutting out the carbs. We aren't well adapted to them compared to races who have had agriculture for a long time (Mediterraneans and asians).

It is not a cure-all but if you are the kind of person who easily gains weight and experiences lethargy/mental fog on the Standard American Diet (SAD) you might do a lot better eating more meat and fats and cutting the grains/sugars.

[Anonymous No.10488494]

>>10488290
>Evidence supports limiting carb intake has major health benefits
>Evidence supports that certain auto-immune diseases are caused by the inflammation due to the inability to process carbs.

Etc etc.

It's not like they are blindly trying to kill themselves by eating skiddles only.

[Anonymous No.10488504]

>>10488380
Readingcomprehension101

[Anonymous No.10488514]

>>10488380
it's the most natural diet imaginable. All modern plants are custom bred and not natural at all. Raising them involves grinding animal matter into fertilizer. Meat is now how it always was in our evolutionary journey. Find me a vegan substitute of liver and bone marrow.

[Anonymous No.10488544]

>>10488514
ask vegans about the brain shrinkage

it's real, look it up

We got out big brains from eating a fuckton of meat

[Anonymous No.10488551]

>>10488356
Hurr durr, what a cop.