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I have studied the whitepaper for hundreds of crypto projects and have come to the conclusion that HOLOCHAIN will render most crypto projects obsolete. 5 years from now, Bitcoin will be worth $50,000. Ethereum will be worth $5000. Holo will be unironically $1/HOT. Dapps now utilize 20%-30% of all internet traffic. Every major IT corporations will deploy on Holo.

>> No.10444309

it'll hit 10-20 cents later this year.

>> No.10444326

It will hit .25 usd in 2019

>> No.10444337

>bitcoin $50k in 5 years
kek, you have no clue, why even bother opening a thread

>> No.10444359

>>10444292

Still patiently fucking waiting for a proper dip to buy some. Feels like it's just going sideways.

>> No.10444384

>>10444337
Higher or lower?

>> No.10444418

>>10444384
higher of course. the only people that don't know this bought in 2017/18

>> No.10444689

I have studied the HOLOCHAIN whitepaper for hundreds of hours and have come to the conclusion that HOLOCHAIN will render my wallet balance obsolete.

>> No.10444702

How is this better than Sky coin?

>> No.10444713

We are gonna get rich

>> No.10444753

>>10444702
mai aspect is that it doesn't have global consensus whilst also eliminating the potential problems that you can get without global consensus. This technically makes it infinitely scalable. There's a lot more to it, but I cba to go into details now.

>> No.10444770

>>10444689
kek. but i think thats unironically a possibility. first of all, the boomer team holds 25%+ of total token supply. fuck that shit. on top of that the dynamic supply model and general uncertainity about adoption are further red flags. huge gamble in my opinion.

i'll play it safe for now with NKN and Rchain.

>> No.10444781

Can someone remind me when is mainnet coming out? Q3?

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>>10444292
Tru senpai we goin 2 da moon

>> No.10444829

>>10444292
Pls moon so I can buy a ps4

>> No.10444989

>>10444359
nope, this market isn't rigged at all.

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>>10444292
bought in when it was at 3sats
feels good to be alive

>> No.10446231

>>10444781
October or near then.

>> No.10446371

>>10444753
How the fuck is not having consensus a good thing?

>> No.10446417

>>10446371
Massively more scaleable. You can have working distributed systems without global consensus.

>> No.10446525

>>10446417
Scalability of a system without consensus leads to upscaling of the negative effect of lacking consensus. I repeat, how the fuck is not having consensus a good thing?

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>>10445286
How? :(

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WHERE IS THE VOLUMEEEEE

>> No.10446658

>>10446525
Don’t bother asking actual technical questions. .01% of crypto holders understand the fundamentals of the projects they’ve invested in. Don’t worry hologoys, your “not-a-crypto-or-blochchain” coin is going straight to the moon in the crypto market. Oh....wait....

>> No.10446735

say what you want, but this is exactly why i bought into holo. 99.9% of crypto investors are only interested in surface level details. holo is different in a way that is going to wow the market like iota did. idgaf if it ever gains adoption. this shit is going to pump hard like tron when we go bull.

>> No.10446773

>>10446417
whithout consensus and one ledger it's totally useless. blockchain was about censorship resistance, cutting out banks and very important public auditability of transactions.

holochain is actually a step back technologically. fuck scalability issues, blockchain will scale sooner or later.

>> No.10446836

>>10446735
even the founding devs admitted holo has only a small chance to moon. it's not a fixed supply crypto and not designed to increase in value that much, they try to have a stable currency. good lord, did you all fall for the binance pajeets?

>> No.10446863

>>10446836
have you learned nothing about crypto yet? follow dumb money and you'll make it.

>> No.10446877

>>10444292
>Literally a project founded by an occupy wall street lunatic who wants to overthrow the government and thinks he's going to re-invent the entire world, but has zero record of doing anything of remote value on this planet
Good luck with your actual shitcoin. I'm sure Joe Shmo used to live on the street guy is a force to be reckoned with and will BTFO every major corporation, bank, and government in the world.

>> No.10447042

>>10446560
It was $0.0003 on ForkDelta. There's where a lot of us bought in, lol.

ICO was $0.0001.

>> No.10447320

>>10446525
are you retarded or you don't know how to read? I said it doesn't have GLOBAL consensus. Where the fuck does it say it doesn't have consensus? Read a fucking technical paper before sperging out like a dipshit.
Here, I'll even spoonfeed you:
https://medium.com/holochain/hashgraph-vs-holochain-eb38d7dc1f8a

>inb4 "neet debunks holochain 5 minutes after reading an article"

>> No.10447401

>>10447320
local consensus is fucking retarded. how are you supposed to audit transactions on the "chain" for example if everyone owns just a fraction of the total ledger. totally inefficient. almost all real world use-cases of blockchain depend on global consensus. have fun bagholding.

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>>10447401
>"neet debunks holochain 5 minutes after reading an article"
you faggots really show up like clockwork

>> No.10447482

>>10446371
It doesn't need it because its agent-centric and not data-centric like blockchain. Blockchain has a lot of different perspectives that need to come to an agreement, Holo has 1 universal perspective and so it doesn't need consensus, there's never an actuall argument.

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>>10447468
>inb4 "pathetic pump and dump pajeet tries to save his shitcoin investment from crashing even further"

>>10447482
the agent-centric design defeats the whole purpose of having a blockchain in the first place. when will you guys understand this. go back and read about the issues blockchains try to solve.

>> No.10447992

>>10447320
Wow, thanks for the spoonfeeding, you folks really are alot more friendly than the Skycoin community.

>> No.10448021

>>10447614
Nice, but holo isn't blockchain

>> No.10448026

>>10447482
This is reassuring. Its like, centralized, but you use different words to describe it?

>> No.10448066

>>10448026
No its not centralized at all. Its Agent-centric, its probably one of the most decentralized architectures out there.

>> No.10448133

>>10447614
>defeats the purpose of blockchain
Exactly

>> No.10448285

>>10447320
I read your little article. Holochain is apparently based on the assumption that 99.9% of interactions will be harmonious, something that does not square with uncontroversial historical observations. Human history is paved with blood soaked earth, they are and always have been fiercely adversarial. The Holochain soft consensus will lead to a hellish entropic morass, with it follows destructive phenomenon, scaling, scaling...

>> No.10448305

>>10448021
holochain still competes will blockchain, no matter if the technology is a little different. your argument is fucking brainlet tier.

>>10448066
then read about the role of holo foundation. they control who gets paid for hosting through their reserve account. i call that semi-centralized.

>>10448133
holochain is a less useful data structure than blockchain in case you didn't get it by now.

>> No.10448363

>>10447042
How do you find out about brand new projects so you can get in on ground level?

>> No.10448399

>>10444292
https://blog.openai.com/ai-and-compute/

Why we need to unlock as much compute as we can. IoT and AI will just network hop and get resources as they need and Holo is going to be perfect for that. Please read this if you want to understand why we need compute networks. I am all in on Holo and Constellation and will try to get involved with Perlin & Oasis Labs.

These are the projects actually looking to the future.

>> No.10448401

>>10448363
You sit behind your computer 24/7 typing keywords into google

>> No.10448418

>>10448363

>>10448401
This

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>>10444292

>buying coins with chain in the name

>> No.10448638

If OP really believes that he is legit retarded lol.
It's just shitcoin #1879.

>> No.10448658

>>10448399
For science

>> No.10448667

>>10448638
I don't really get this project but it has performed pretty well. Certainly better than some of the shit I've bought this year. I might put $100 bucks in this shit.

>> No.10448892

>>10444292
I read the whitepaper too, the math is clearly made to confuse people into thinking it's scientific, when the proofs provided currently mainly explain other things than holochain itself, majority of the paper is focused on the proofs behind Bitcoin, lmao ok but isn't holochain not anything like Bitcoin? Why go into detail on something irrelevant.

t. Math minor compsci major

>> No.10449035

>>10448892
ikr, seems like they didn't know what to write about but needed a whitepaper for their charity ico. they just threw some math formulas in there to make it look scientific, they knew no one without a math background would ever read it kek..

it's just yet another shitcoin desu, sorry for the anons who got pajeeted.

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>>10449035
It's on binance anyone thinking it won't go up is an idiot, but don't treat it like some long-term moon mission, pure speculation and the whitepaper doesn't ease that feeling imo.

>> No.10449150

>>10449035
Also the whole section about gossip is ripped from hashgraphs whitepaper. Nothing here hasn't been said before, and if I'm correct hashgraphs gossip system is copyrighted.

>> No.10449440

>>10449150
wow, didn't know about them stealing IP from hashgraph, could end badly. i didn't really believe their "10 years in the making" bullshit anyways, it's totally obvious they just had a general interest in talking about currencies and decided to turn it into a blockchain project after they saw the hype.

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>>10444292
Basically /biz/ is full of neets who wish they had money and financial people who know jack shit about technology.

The rest of us who, do understand the tech, easily see how blockchain is mostly a scam (altcoins), and that Holochain will actually do what most of these scams wish they could do but much much better.

>> No.10450017

>>10444292
>>10444309
>>10444326
You faggots will be lucky if this neet wet dream reaches $.01 ever

>> No.10450071

>>10450017
it's fucking impossible due to holo's dynamic supply / mutual credit system. this shit isn't designed to moon, that's not even a secret kek.

>> No.10450215

>>10450071

This. The creators have that retarded "making money is bad" attidute and they're going try their hardest to NOT make anyone(else than themselves mabe) rich.

>> No.10450328

Holochain (HOT) Review: Making the blockchain obsolete
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/92bodf/holochain_hot_review_making_the_blockchain/

this is the real deal

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>>10444292
A challenger appears...its super effective!

>> No.10450414

>>10444702
Plus holo is literally a minimum of 10 years ahead of sky,, and you dont have to gamble on the level of synth's autism

>> No.10450445

>>10450353
Completely unrelated as far as tech and goal.

>> No.10450450

>>10450414
>>10450328
holo shills are unironically more deluded than linkies.

>>10450353
future top 10 coin for sure

>> No.10450587

>>10444337
that will be a huge dump by that time...the next bull run ends bitcoin at either 112k or 54k

>> No.10450861

>>10444309
I see no reason why it can't $1 this year. I think it could easily pull a XRP. If it has XRP market cap, we are indeed looking at $.80 - $1 HOT.

XRP was 10x more useless than this, and the logo/team didn't appeal nearly as much to normies. I'd be scared to bet my life that this wouldn't hit a $ this year. If we get another bullrun that BTC even hits 16k, this could happen. Let alone if we have a bullrun that is a bit bigger than last years, if we hit ATH again HOT is easily worth over $1.

>> No.10450988

>>10449440
>>10449150
skycoin faggots detected

>> No.10451011

>>10450988
>Cloud storage on blockchain
Shypddt

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>>10450861
> imagine being this deluded

you are either mentally retarded or a fucking discord pajeet (pic related). there is no other option.

>> No.10451221

>>10450861
>I see no reason why it can't $1 this year. I think it could easily pull a XRP. If it has XRP market cap, we are indeed looking at $.80 - $1 HOT.
>XRP was 10x more useless than this, and the logo/team didn't appeal nearly as much to normies. I'd be scared to bet my life that this wouldn't hit a $ this year. If we get another bullrun that BTC even hits 16k, this could happen. Let alone if we have a bullrun that is a bit bigger than last years, if we hit ATH again HOT is easily worth over $1.
Art beock, co founder of Holidays even said it could go to $1 on Reddit.

>> No.10451248

>>10447614
ok pajeet, how's that 3G cell service working out in your shithole desert?

>> No.10451297

YOU TALK THE TALK BUT LITERALLY NO ONE IS WALKING THE WALK THE VOLUME IS GARBAGE

>> No.10451335

>>10451115
What's this picture mean?

>> No.10451361

>>10451335
trade signal

>> No.10451390

Holo will definitely test 1B cap sometime soon

>> No.10451398

>>10451361
yeah sure, hey guys, lets pump bitcoin, or ethereum

>the next 1000x

>> No.10452659

>>10444292
How much does HOLO COST?

>> No.10453981

>>10451221
Yeah. I don't get why a shitcoin like XRP can get to 100 million but this can't. It has better tech/better memes/better everything than Ripple or EOS. The difference is HOLO is actually useful. During a bullrun this is a 100 billion dollar coin. $1 is not crazy. Ripple had a similar marketcap.

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>>10444292
>studied the whitepaper of hundreds of crypto
>shills HOLOCHAIN

Imagine being this retarded Anons.