/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.10354197]

holy fuck I overheard a job interview at a restaurant today and there were TWO fucking managers there (from a diff restaurant down the street) interviewing this guy for a shitty cashier job for over a fucking HOUR. one of the managers even had their laptop out.

>"the position is $8.25/hr"
>"are there tips?"
>"there's no tip jar. but there is...potential for tips, it's a great opportunity"

how fucking insane is employment for young people

[Anonymous No.10354232]

Too many people, not enough jobs. It’s that simple.

[Anonymous No.10354246]

>>10354197
don't worry we need a couple of million more 3rd world immigrants

[Anonymous No.10354293]

at my job we all get salary at less than minimum wage, most of us work 60+ hours, myself working 70-80

in my location we get tips because there's a many years-old tradition where we bark like dogs when tipped, but in the other location the tips go in the drawer

[Anonymous No.10354358]

>>10354293
Wat
What in the actual what?

[Anonymous No.10354444]

>>10354197

i don't know how common this is in the corporate world but i had five one hour long interviews for a position about a year ago. i didn't get it, but thankfully i got a better position as a systems analyst instead. still, it seemed pretty preposterous. i feel like managers are just masking their incompetence with shit like this.

[Anonymous No.10354457]

We are reaching peak capitalism

[Anonymous No.10354476]

>>10354197
If you pass round one panel interview you get to take the corporate personality test

[Anonymous No.10354482]

>>10354293
>in my location we get tips because there's a many years-old tradition where we bark like dogs when tipped

[Anonymous No.10354488]

>>10354293
we really do live in a society

[Anonymous No.10354496]

i for one am preparing for the criminal uprising of homicidal millenials and zoomers

[Anonymous No.10354539]

>>10354197
>>10354293
>>10354444
>>10354457

I don't know man, this shit will get worse and worse as automation progresses. Initially there will be a phase(which I think we're basically almost in already) where people think they can outwork the machines. Millions will get killed by complete burnout/suicide and maybe at some point when we're at nearly 100% automation of all jobs people MIGHT wake up and realize that this forced wagecuck job meme is fucking retarded as fuck and we'll actually make some progress again as a society. Millennials are propably in the shittiest spot imagineable for this. Most of us will propably die by suicide.

[Anonymous No.10354843]

Had a five hour interview for a £18,000 a year job the other day, I got free lunch so I can't complain. Also have had a three hour one for a £21,000 a year one.

t. 21 year old graduate boomer looking for my first real job

[Anonymous No.10354878]

Hugely bloated middle management classes that have to poke their noses and overelaborate on everything to justify their jobs. I don't mind the wealthiest people in the world having what they have, it's these boomers and women in make work jobs that get to me.

[Anonymous No.10354951]

I know 16 burger bucks an hour isn't great but that's what i get paid.
Work 6pm to 2 30am which is amazing hours for me.
I work front desk at a hotel / apartment (high class apartment....)

I show up in a suit, sit down on the chair and trade crypto the whole fuckin time and watch youtube.

I also rack lines in the bathroom every few hours. Ultimate comfy job imo.... 0 interview

[Anonymous No.10355731]

>>10354951
>sit down on the chair and trade crypto the whole fuckin time
so... you are basically losing money while working. That must be next level wagecucking shit there.

[Anonymous No.10355743]

True story:
My first and only job interview 12 years ago for a stupid job at Best Buy (which I didn't really want), I didn't get a call back for. Instead, I got a job at some other stupid place and my teacher had a good connection with that place, so they hired me without interview, if I remember correctly. Well, fast forward a few weeks later, I was at the right place and right time to buy a website in a huge online niche that was currently blowing up. Pair that with an advertisement company which was trying to compete with Google, which I also was lucky to discover early AND was lucky enough to be accepted to their Beta program. Fast forward to the end of the school year. I was finally kicked off the program because my traffic was all 15 year olds who used MySpace. But I had already received over $200,000 in checks from them. They owed me an additional $65k, but reduced it to $50k. So over $250,000' Yes, all while having an $8/hr job in the meantime and still being in high school. But one critical piece of this story is missing that you should know. I'm the Lord's servant and I pray every day. Back to my point. My point is after all was said and done, I remember thinking back to that stupid Best Buy interview. I still think back to it actually, and I just laugh. Fuck that shit. Fuck Best Buy. Fuck job interviews. Fuck minimum wage. Fuck a lot of things. Like you for example. Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.10355762]

>>10354951
Kek
That's doing crypto the right way
May your trades always be in the green fren

[Anonymous No.10355780]

>>10354232
And yet we need MORE immigrants

[Anonymous No.10355782]

>>10354293

>we bark like dogs when tipped

humans of late capitalism

[Anonymous No.10355800]

>>10354293
Holy fuck, this can't be real

[Anonymous No.10355811]

>>10354197
that 20 y.o. zoomer who knows literally nothing about any practical

it's ok I used to be like that too... here's what you do
-learn how to use tools, read a fuckin micrometer, caliper, multimeter, etc
-learn basic electrical shit/electronics
-maybe learn some basic welding/machine tools

now that we have practical stuff down
spec down the correct talent tree you want


i should honestly build a talent calculator for careers, that mite b cool

[Anonymous No.10355828]

>>10355811
what the fuck are you on you spastic retard

[Anonymous No.10355838]

>>10355828
https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=maintenance+technician&l=

woe is on me to get a job

[Anonymous No.10355862]

>>10354539
>Most of us will propably die by suicide
why?

[Anonymous No.10355874]

>>10354293
jesus christ anon..

[Sometimes rarely No.10355880]

>>10354878
Same here. I hate HR

[Anonymous No.10355904]

>>10354197
You an american? You'll get tipped anyway if so.
>>10354293
>at my job we all get salary at less than minimum wage
Ye, that's common. (imagine running a business where 1/6th of the cost to customers is never accounted for. (1/6th if everyone tips 20%))
Your pay has to be at least minimum wage including tips.

[Anonymous No.10355928]

>be a sub-100 IQ normie
>get a sub-100 IQ normie job

I don't see a problem.

[Anonymous No.10355936]

>>10354539
>Initially there will be a phase(which I think we're basically almost in already) where people think they can outwork the machines
That already exist. It's called the entire continent of Asia

[Anonymous No.10355942]

>>10354197
HR are the worst people in any company ever. They interview people for jobs they have no idea about and they seem to be enjoying the false power trip. If you ain't an engineer or someone who understands the job then get the fuck out of here and let someone competent interview me. I pray to God that all of these faggots get replaced by AI soon.

[Anonymous No.10355947]

>>10354293
>in my location we get tips because there's a many years-old tradition where we bark like dogs when tipped
This...this is an American thing isn't it?

[Anonymous No.10356144]

>>10354197
Just a bunch of dog cunts getting off on having the absolute bare minimum of power over someone.

[Anonymous No.10356331]

>>10355743
Excellent post, particularly the part about being a man of God.

[Anonymous No.10356415]

>>10354197
>tfw make 30 an hour out of school in engineering
>tfw surrounded by brainlets so my boss thinks I’m a literal genius
>tfw only need to do shit like half of the day and still significantly outperform everyone else
>tfw effortlessly succeed in everything
It is pretty comfy being a big fish in a small pond. I suggest you find a job like this.

[Anonymous No.10356593]

>>10354197
>and old boomers tink I am a loser for being a NEET im 10x smarter than u retards working ur only literally only chance at life away for a jew slavemaster fuck you

[Anonymous No.10356648]

[Anonymous No.10356689]

>tfw I live in Estonia
>tfw I'll get a degree in IT and get a job asap(probably get one during uni already) paying me 2-3 more than the average wage because there's a shortage
>tfw no immigrants
>tfw I realise I live in the best country in the world
I think I already made it. Now if LINK goes to $5 EOY that'll be really fucking nice.

[Anonymous No.10356698]

>>10354444
skilled work demands rigorous interviews. as a senior dev I get interviews to any job I apply for, but there will be 3-5 of them and I'll be competing with candidates I know personally. rigorous interviews for shit jobs is pointless though.

[Anonymous No.10356736]

>>10355731
90% of trading is research and risk management

[Anonymous No.10356797]

>>10354197
lmao 8,25$ would not even wake up for this

[Anonymous No.10356830]

>>10354197

you gotta be kidding

[Anonymous No.10356836]

>>10354197
When I was 17 I interviewed at Outback Steakhouse for a server job. I had to take 3 different personality tests, interview with the assistant manager and head manager. Took like 3-4 hours total for something that paid like $5-6/hr. At the end they offered me a job and I actually told them to go fuck themselves and left. It aggravated me.

[Anonymous No.10356894]

hello gentlemen, might i recommend if possible starting your own business? its hard but if you do it right worth it and you dont have to lick your boss' anus 5 days a week

[Anonymous No.10356900]

>>10354197

ahh, the land of the free. nice job market you got there pal!

im 24 year old zoomer and i recently landed my first real job. had a 20 minute phone interview and a 3h interview at the company with hr and a partner. ez pz.

[Anonymous No.10356967]

When i went for the interview for my current job (paying 17 freedom bucks an hour) the ad said it was “15-22 an hour” I knew and everyone I spoke to knew I was overqualified for the job during the two hour interview my boss essentially told me himself.
He asked me how much an hour I wanted, I said 20 an hour but negotiable (while his ad said up to 22) and he said “the job pays $17.” Couldn’t budge it an inch. I asked why it pays 17 when the ad said up to 22 and he admitted “We put that on there to get a better pool of potential employees”. Fucking go figure they want the best but wanna pay minimum wage for it. It’s not even in my trade either and some of the people are just complete fucktards but that’s everywhere ya go anyway. Only took the job because I’ve been unemployed for over a year and need to pay debt and it’s close to home.

[Anonymous No.10357007]

>>10356967
supply and demand anon, he really did nothing wrong. learn new skills of you want more money.

[Anonymous No.10357044]

>>10356967
>boss told me to go fuck myself
>b-but I took the job anyway
>but I'm NOT a cuck
Delusional.

[Anonymous No.10357057]

>>10354232
>Aktuchulley
In many places it is quite the opposite. All the good people are taken. One hour spent over lunch saves you from hours of drama down the road.

[Anonymous No.10357059]

this is america right?

i know its really, really bad here in australia. journalists should be hung by street lights for brushing this shit under the carpet.

[Anonymous No.10357073]

>>10354293
living the life

[Anonymous No.10357075]

There's literally no reason to even be interviewing people for an entry-level position that requires no training. Just hire on a first-come first-serve basis.

[Anonymous No.10357139]

>>10354197
So insane that I've been fired over 6 times, lost count of it actually.

[Anonymous No.10357156]

>work my ass off all day
>get one 30 minute break a day
>30 year old boomer in the same job as me and getting paid the exact same as me gets a 30 minute break plus four 15 minute breaks every day because he smokes

[Anonymous No.10357378]

>>10354843
Mate im 26 still earning 14k in a supervisor role.

[Anonymous No.10357401]

>>10357156
vape water or something?

[Anonymous No.10357565]

>>10355862
sweatshop chinks suicide en mass, it's only a matter of time until we're in the same boat

[Anonymous No.10357599]

>>10357007
I’m not saying he did anything wrong, I’m just annoyed he advertised x and wants the benefits of x without giving x.
>>10357044
I’m not saying I am or am not a cuck, I’ll probably btfo and start my own business shortly after getting out of debt.

[Anonymous No.10357974]

>>10356689
What kind of job? Do finance positions pay well at all there?

[Anonymous No.10358015]

>>10356894
Or get a sales job...I never, ever see sales being shilled on /biz/ but:
1.) it's easy to get a job because if you work for commission your company only pays you money if you make money for them.
2.) create your own schedule
3.) easier than starting a business because you have guidance and advice through your company
4.) amount of money you make directly correlates to effort
Only thing is you need to have some people skills, and motivation to start...but don't you for every job worth having?

[Anonymous No.10358027]

>>10358015

BBBRRRRAPPP

[Anonymous No.10358044]

>>10354197
>MFW then last two interviews I had went like this because they were so short staffed-

>Hiring manager: The job entails XXXX, The Pay is XXXX, Do you want the job?
>Me: Yes.
>Hiring manager: You're hired.

[Anonymous No.10358058]

>>10358015
Sales is never being shilled on biz because for sales you actually need at least some minimal social skills...

[Anonymous No.10358064]

>>10358058
it's also soul sucking bullshit

[Anonymous No.10358065]

would have been more jobs if jealous decadent caucasoids hadn't of destroyed Black Wallstreet in Tulsa OKC. We had the majority of American wealth at that time.

Kys neaderthals before I do it for you

[Anonymous No.10358305]

>>10356415
What job/industry? Also just graduated in engineering and looking for a job.

[Anonymous No.10358363]

>>10356698
Hiring for high demand positions means not wasting the applicant's fucking time unless you never ever want the position filled.

[Anonymous No.10358462]

>>10355942
We're in a bubble, they'll get purged first.

[Anonymous No.10358501]

>>10354197
This has more to do about not many jobs and too many people.

Why do you think they bring 2 managers and waste 1 fucking hour ? So they can pretend they're busy and don't get fired.

With technology society got more and more productive, of course a bit is spent on feeding niggers and healing morbidly obese people, but most of the surplus went to useless bullshit jobs.

[Anonymous No.10358554]

>>10358462
>they'll get purged first.
I can't wait for this to happen. They are the most useless fucks ever. When the company is not looking for a job what exactly do they do? They add zero value and they are mostly hired through connections.
Fucking pieces of shits, I hate them so fucking much.

[Anonymous No.10358612]

Middle management has to make itself seem relevant somehow.
They do this with the hiring and hr circus since their other duties take like 1 hour a day.

[Anonymous No.10358643]

>>10354232
This is absolutely false
Fake news
Die

[Anonymous No.10358693]

>>10355780
Don't be racist. You love burriots, right? No mexicans no burritos.

[Anonymous No.10358746]

>>10355928

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

Business owner here: I fucking hate hiring people, every time I get some unreliable cunt, its rediculous. $14/hr training pay/$15/hr starting, for a fucking easy 9-4 job, yet there is always some fucking ghetto drama going on with their personal lives that ends up fucking them up for work (heroin addiction, videogame/internet addiction, relationship drama, getting pulled over for not keeping their car inspected, going to prison for parole violation, fucking everything).

Look, I want to hire people, but I have to work side by side with these degenerates. It's gotten to the point that I would rather take out massive (((loans))) to finance expensive equipment and put in few more hours a week myself instead.

All the UBI advocates that expect me to pay for them being a useless meatbag can suck my cock. The instant Ubi becomes reality, me andy operation are noping the fuck out.

>T. 30yo boomer

[Anonymous No.10358910]

>>10358746

>The instant Ubi becomes reality, me andy operation are noping the fuck out.

Nah, you won't. People like you would never be satisfied with just living on UBI so stfu.

[Anonymous No.10358956]

>>10358363
>being this naive
Why would they give a shit about an applicants time. I would assume you also think Realestate agents want to sell your home for the most possible money.

[Anonymous No.10358990]

>>10358746
Maybe noone wants your shit tier job making shit tier wages.

[Anonymous No.10358999]

>>10354878
Underrated post

[Anonymous No.10359000]

>>10354293
The real question is why haven't you killed yourself yet? Barking.. like.. a dog. When I waited tables I would hide when someone wanted happy birthday singers. JFC

[Anonymous No.10359002]

>>10358305
EE in Aerospace industry

[Anonymous No.10359021]

>>10355743
I'm the Lord's servant and I pray every day.

[Anonymous No.10359123]

>>10358990

>Maybe nobody wants an indoor $32k/year starting with paid holidays and benefits for a job that only requires a high school diploma,that's easy and doesn't require any nightshift work.

Horseshit, this is exactly the type of job every loser complains they can't get. From my viewpoint, our biggest problem isn't lack of jobs, it's lack of people who aren't narcissistic cunts with zero interest in self improvement, all they want is that next dopamine rush, fuck the consequences to themselves and everyone else around them.

[Anonymous No.10359202]

>>10358554
Totally agree, every time I saw the HR folks they were goofing off and talking. I really can't estimate how productive they really are. Also agree they know nothing about jobs they are hiring for (engineer) and they are the first filter.

[Anonymous No.10359327]

>>10359123
>$32k/year starting
>good

What part of the country are you at? If you live in a large metropolitan area, you're not going to get any quality candidates at this price. You'd be better off upping the salary requirements and going after recent high school graduates.

[Anonymous No.10359368]

>>10359123
>it's lack of people who aren't narcissistic cunts
>Look, I want to hire people, but I have to work side by side with these degenerates.
You get what you pay for, you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.10359414]

Job interview. They tell me they only want me partrime. Everyday from 12-5. Cunts. How is that partrime if they want me everyday during the prime time hours

Am I suppose to get another job that only wants me from 8-11.

[Anonymous No.10359504]

>>10354951
Nice

[Anonymous No.10359616]

>>10358064
LoL yeah sales is a grind.

[Anonymous No.10359647]

>>10359414
they mean they want the benefits of a full time employee without actually paying for one

[Anonymous No.10359699]

>>10355942
seconded. I'm a developer and there is nothing I hate more than HR. Always women, always massive fucking cunts. Always completely clueless as to who is doing a good job and not. Why the fuck do they get a say in so much? Fuck I hate these useless, spineless shitty people so much why do they even exist. Quit working at IBM just because of retarded HR women and swore to never work for a company big enough to have HR ever again.

[Anonymous No.10359715]

>>10359699
What are some negative experiences with hr.

[Anonymous No.10359727]

>>10359647
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.10359735]

>>10359414
>prime time hours
what do you mean

[Anonymous No.10359858]

>>10358746
Can this job be done remotely?

[Anonymous No.10359864]

>>10359715
When they run my background check haha

[Anonymous No.10359892]

>>10359699
In most consulting / contracting roles, you get better money and almost never have to deal with HR (hired by senior developers and architect types who know their shit)

[Anonymous No.10359897]

>>10357378
Feels bad.

I had a comfy job in the shipping/procurement industry making that but I left because it's not too smart from a career perspective to stay in a shit job.

ID might be different because dumb phoneposter.

[Anonymous No.10359901]

>>10359002
how difficult is the schooling honestly?? like how wrinkly of a brain do I need to get through the physics and calc

[Anonymous No.10359969]

>>10359901
>physics and calc
not even the hard part of engineering. you dont go that deep into physics and calc is all work, no deep critical thinking required.
you dont need significant smarts for engineering courses. you need top tier organization and work ethic.
an engineering job is completely different though. you’ll need good communication skills and some creativity. else you’ll just be a glorified technician.

[Anonymous No.10360027]

>>10354232
Remove welfare, reduce minimum wages to $3/hr.
Problem solved.

[Anonymous No.10360221]

>>10359327
>>10359368

Why should I pay more than $32k/year (starting!) with benefits for completely unskilled labor? I live and work in a pricy suburb, but lots of affordable housing is within 10 minutes drive (clean mobile homes for $20-50k in nice parks, and row housing in decent neighborhoods for $50-100k). My top pay rate is $28/hr after being fully trained and about 6 years on the job, people are just too dysfunctional to get there.

>>10359858
Not until they develope affordable commercial romote operable workplace drones based on the tech the Air Force uses to bomb brown people.

>>10358910

I'm not saying I'll stop working, I'm saying I'll keep working in whatever country wants productive individuals without burdening me with welfare to leeches who aren't my people. Just like Zambia benefiting from getting all of the productive white farmers Zimbabwe kicked out, or Luxembourg benefiting from fleeing french millionaires, or America benefiting from global entrepreneurs, productive people seek places that allow them to prosper without undue burden (of which any serious UBI program will be horrendously expensive)

[Anonymous No.10360356]

>>10354539
This.
Technology will continue to exponentially increase, and owners will always seek to replace human labor with AI untill nobody has money to buy their products anymore.
We have a scary depression coming our way.

[Anonymous No.10360786]

>>10360221
Long shot here, what state are you located in?

[Anonymous No.10360932]

>>10354197
>>10354293
>>10354843
>>10355743
>>10356836

Kek this thread made me realize how bad it sucks to be poor in he US. The lowest workers at McDonald’s make $20/hour + like 4 weeks of paid vacation/year and pension in my country.

[Anonymous No.10361014]

>>10354951
How’s ayndryl?

[Anonymous No.10361051]

>>10360932
if you are poor in the US without any family to rely on you will literally starve

[Anonymous No.10361068]

>>10358693
becuase I cant just download a fucking recipe right? commit death beaner.

[Anonymous No.10361090]

>>10354293
>in my location we get tips because there's a many years-old tradition where we bark like dogs when tipped, but in the other location the tips go in the drawer
Hooters?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4T7dDS5UrY

[Anonymous No.10361092]

>>10354197
when i was younger i interviewed for a dishwasher job that was like that
i was “interviewed” by some faggot emo kid with lip piercings and his black boyfriend that owned the restaurant it was fucking hilarious some of the questions they asked me

[Anonymous No.10361093]

>>10354293
To be fair, I used to work at Cold Stone Ice Cream and you had to sing when someone tipped. Very dehumanizing. Only the most dedicated of basedboys continue to work there.

[Anonymous No.10361094]

>>10360356

Automation lowers prices proportionally to the decrease in required labor. It's why food is only a fraction of people's budget instead of half your income like it would be without modern farm equipment. Hundreds of thousands of restaurants employing millions of people are allowed to exist because of that food price reduction. Restaurant jobs are much nicer than manual farm labor. This same economic mechanism applies to all goods and labor. Decreased pricing from automation with lead to new industries that employ more people, not less, all while increasing the physical standard of living.

[Anonymous No.10361095]

>>10354293
Are you waiting for a German doctor to come by and take you as his headhunting associate?

[Anonymous No.10361123]

>>10354197

The game is rigged and the only way to win is to not play. Let the cock sucking management fags eat their own shit.

[Anonymous No.10361126]

>>10361051

>Implying 99% of poor people in the US aren't fat fucks that will most likely die from chronic diseases that come from eating too much food.

>>10360932

The average American has far more disposable income that just about any other advanced country that isn't a tax haven micronation. Cost of living is much lower as well.

[Anonymous No.10361191]

>>10355811
Or just thumb through the handbook https://www.bls.gov/ooh/

[Anonymous No.10361372]

>>10354197
I once had to have three separate interviews just trying to get a minimum wage busboy job at a hotel. Interview with two supervisors, then interview with assistant manager, then interview with general manager.

[Anonymous No.10361416]

>>10354197

Dude I just saw a double interview going down at Starbucks. Better believe I was evesdropping... the individuals interviewing for the same position for a work from home sales job... the guy running the interview had his laptop out, when I left, I glanced over his should and he was playing fucking minesweeper. Why even waste peoples time like that?

[Anonymous No.10361460]

>>10361126
Disposable income is obviously high in the US because the US has a pretty low average tax rate compared to most other rich countries. Pre tax income would be a much better measssure. That being said, even the median disposable income is lower in a few countries and not all of them are tax havens, e.g. Denmark, Switzerland, Australia and Norway. On top of that these countries have a lot more welfare than the US. Norway and Denmark have free education, free health care, 1k/month in financial aid for students, large government funded pensions etc. If you only look at the the poorest 20% the US is worse off than most other rich countries. That’s why I said it kinda sucks to be ->poor<- in the US. The US is one of the worst rich countries to minimum wage cuck in. The US is great if you’re upper middle class/ upper class.

[Anonymous No.10361514]

>>10361126 #
Disposable income is very high in the US because the US has a pretty low average tax rate compared to most other rich countries. Pre tax income would be a much better (but not perfect) indicator of how well off the average citizen is. That being said, even the median disposable income is higher in a few countries and not all of them are tax havens, e.g. Denmark, Switzerland, Australia and Norway. On top of that these countries have a lot more welfare than the US. Norway and Denmark have free education, free health care, 1k/month in financial aid for students, large government funded pensions etc. If you only look at the the poorest 20% the US is worse off than most other rich countries. That’s why I said it kinda sucks to be ->poor<- in the US. The US is one of the worst rich countries to minimum wage cuck in. The US is great if you’re middle class or better.

[Anonymous No.10361530]

>>10354232
Too many people applying for the same jobs.

>>10354539
Not everything can be automated. Machines are still not dexterous or intelligent enough for many tasks and we are no where near the point where menial laborers can easily be replaced with robots.

Elon Musk fell for the automation meme in manufacturing Teslas, but there was no improvement in manufacturing efficiency.

[Anonymous No.10361548]

>>10361372
>had to
you chose to participate, you are the useless faggot everyone ITT is complaining about

[Anonymous No.10361564]

>>10361094
How do you know even restaurants aren't going to be 100% automated, like some stores already have? I don't see how that will lead to more jobs. Especially shitty service jobs are already being phased out.

[Anonymous No.10361576]

>>10361564
Will only lead to more free time and higher quality products, people crying about automation are absolute mouthbreathing retards

[Anonymous No.10361682]

>>10361416

[Anonymous No.10361715]

>>10360356
Well also this phase is happening already
Workers do not have the money to spend
So state established the caste of neets and gibs receivers
All at the cost of borrowing money and increasing the tax burden on upper middle class.
These mostly niggers, spend government bucks on stupid shit keeping the consumption afloat

[Anonymous No.10361740]

>>10361514
>That being said, even the median disposable income is higher in a few countries and not all of them are tax havens, e.g. Denmark, Switzerland, Australia and Norway.

Kind of an apples-to-oranges comparison though. Financially speaking, white Americans are on a whole different level from blacks (10% of the population) and even Hispanics (another 25% weighing down the stats).

[Anonymous No.10361747]

>>10360221
>Why should I pay more than $32k/year (starting!) with benefits for completely unskilled labor?
Seems like you answered your own question here >>10358746 Again, keep your wages that low and have fun for dealing with lost productivity due to turnover.

[Anonymous No.10361771]

>>10361715
>Workers do not have the money to spend
Everywhere I go I see people with new cars and new phones, new tvs etc.

[Anonymous No.10361798]

>>10360932
>price of a big mac is $16 dollars

[Anonymous No.10361890]

>>10360221

What's the job?

[Anonymous No.10361956]

>>10357156

He's stealing company time. Fuck his shit up.

[Anonymous No.10361980]

>>10359123

I can live like a king on 32k a year.

[Anonymous No.10361997]

>>10359699

HR is known as the "Pink Ghetto".

[Anonymous No.10362019]

>>10358746

Where are you and what is the job? My record is squeaky clean, I have no gf, I don't do any drugs or drink, and I rarely play video games.

[Anonymous No.10362031]

>>10361771

That's because they went into debt for that stupid shit.

[Anonymous No.10362042]

>>10354197
The number of high-paying jobs is constantly shrinking due to automation and these are not replaced.
The population is gradually increasing.
As a result there is a massive underemployment, despite the fact that unemployment seems to be at its lowest. Soon we will end up with college graduates doing 5 interviews to get loo cleaner's position.

This situation only gets worse and is scary, because we might see social unrest, revolutions, another world war

[Anonymous No.10362045]

>>10359699
My last interview felt like a meme
1. HR roastie cracking offbeat jokes, clueless about the job
2. VP- Basedboy hipster smiling all the time
3. CEO rectangular jaw postwall childless female

[Anonymous No.10362089]

>>10362031
Is this true or just a 4chan meme? If I even have a dollar of debt I focus on attention on paying it off asap.

[Anonymous No.10362090]

read Marx and Lenin, it’s our only way out of this

[Anonymous No.10362120]

>>10354539
You people are fucking retarded. The machines are owned by people. They enhance their productivity, not replace it.
Cars and computers were once only affordable to the rich. Mass production and competition led to where now anyone can own them.
Stop creating hindrances for the free market, and we will avoid the depression - if it occurs it will entirely due to your socialist economically illiterate bullshit.

[Anonymous No.10362149]

>>10362089

The U.S is a debtor nation. People are stupid pieces of shit.

[Anonymous No.10362266]

>>10362149
It's just hard for me to believe that people actually max out high interest credit cards just for material goods that will feel good for about a week. Surely people can't be this shortsighted.

[Anonymous No.10362481]

>>10362266
>[Event] is coming
>Need/Want to pay for [Expenditure] but can't/won't to spend cash on hand
>Pay with credit card now with intention of paying if off later
>Fall behind because X,Y,Z came up and now you need to focus that
>Interest rate slowly becomes a higher and higher percentage of your monthly payments
>Rinse and repeat

Not everyone is like this, but this is what happens to a lot of people so far as I've seen.

I think most people are just terrible with money. Different story I do have a friend that makes some odd 60k-80k a year waiting tables who is always fucking broke. I mean, she can walk in on a Friday night and pull $300 in cash plus $11.00 min (in CA they don't have a tax credit for tips) for between 6-9 hours of work.
Constantly mismanages because she has no budget and assumes she'll make big a lot of cash tips the week before rent, says her bank statements are mostly to wholefoods, go figure.

[Anonymous No.10362498]

>>10354197

This thread legit makes me want to kms

[Anonymous No.10362519]

ITT: brainlets that do not understand the LTV.

[Anonymous No.10363625]

>>10362519
>LTV
Life time value or loan to value?