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How'd you do today /smg/?
Popular brokers for stock trading:

Robinhood
>Commission free and no minimum to open
http://www.robinhood.com

>How is it free?
Robinhood earns revenue by collecting interest on cash/securities and fees from their Robinhood Gold service

Interactive Brokers
>$0.005/share, $1 minimum. Lowest margin interest. Free API access
http://www.interactivebrokers.com

TD Ameritade
>$6.95 commission per trade. No minimum to open. Fantastic data/charting through their free ThinkorSwim service
http://www.tdameritrade.com

Degiro (Cheap broker for Europeans)
http://www.degiro.eu

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free in depth charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
http://www.nasdaq.com/extended-trading/premarket-mostactive.aspx
https://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/
https://www.cnbc.com/pre-markets/

Earnings Report Calendars:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

CNBC Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/cnbc-america.html
Fox Business Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/business/fox-business-network-fbn.html
Bloomberg Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

Basic rundown on options:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBAQtjyqNHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTTzfa4ePE

Previous thread: >>10304089

>> No.10307475

buy MNST

>> No.10307504
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>>10307475
>Recovered from my Netflix gamble and then some

Today was a good day

>> No.10307516

first for JNJ mooning above 133 tomorrow

>> No.10307520
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>>10307473
I made 0.0% today

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10307533

lol

>> No.10307535

DAILY REMINDER THAT BOOMERS WIN AND DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

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10307540

Where my IQ bros at

>> No.10307542

>>10307473
TLT went down, which means I got some of those losses back. Waiting for these fucking puts to moon is like watching paint dry. Should have just took a small profit when I had a chance and went short oil instead of holding the bag on these fuckers, but they'll eventually be worth twice what I paid for them so I don't even give a fuck.

>> No.10307576

>>10307504
Good job bible bro

>> No.10307583
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>>10307540
>tfw searching the thought vector space

>> No.10307607

>>10307542
im long oil rn
saw that 35M share order on USO come in and bought in

today was the most volume that ETF got all year

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>>10307535
To a point

You don't see many %100 yearly increases from dividend stocks, unless it's defense stocks

WM is a fantastic recession proof dividend stocks, but it's almost always sideways

LMT and BA are great dividend stocks to own though, no idea why any American would refuse to hold military industrial stocks

>> No.10307656

>>10307609
>wm almost always sideways
Nigger what? Wm steadily increases over time

>> No.10307669

>>10307609
is LMT better than Boeing, GD, etc? i don't know enough about it

>> No.10307708

>daddy is is kicking me out because im 19 and still living at home
>ask him for a 2 million start up loan to help me get on my feet
>hes reluctant but later agrees because he doesnt want to see me on drugs and living in the street
> Invest it all into a leveraged trust fund

probably wont even need to work outside of washing my own clothes
feels pretty nice but i doubt ill be able to afford any regular fancy vacations like u see on instagram

>> No.10307724

>>10307708
also he only gave me 1.3

>> No.10307738

>>10307708
>leveraged trust fund
come on this isnt funny if you get the buzzwords wrong

>> No.10307746

>>10307535
Dividends are a waste of time unless you have 500k to fuck around with.

>> No.10307770

>>10307746
dividends are a waste of time unless you're a NEET without any significant income

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>>10307656
Too slow for my taste, considering most indexes grow twice as fast

I more biased to LMT, but it's been crap to me since march
I'm +%20 total from LMT, +%126 from BA, so I'll have to say BA
(Bought both late 2016)

But I like LMT more, since if any company is going to figure out cold fusion, it's LMT, and then they'll be able to print money (not that this will ever happen though, realistically)

Ford is nice for dividends too, if you own a certain amount of shares for over 6 months, you will get discounts at dealerships, I think most car companies offer something similar
Gotta be careful with auto companies though since they are so cyclical

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10307799

okay so to everyone saying “just limit buy” last thread, that doesnt fucking solve anything because the chart isnt fucking accurate apparently

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>>10307799
then when i go to limit buy WHY THE FUCK DOES IT SAY THE CURRENT PRICE IS SO MUCH HIGHER

seriously what is this horseshit. how the fuck am i supposed to reliably limit buy this shit when the two current prices arent even the same?

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10307819

>>10307396
how did you lose it all this time grim

>> No.10307825

>>10307799
this is why I dont use robinhood
but regardless of the broker you use, your trading data will be delayed by at least a few seconds. and even if you have instantaneous data via faster-than-light technology, the price is actually the price of the last trade and the stock may never trade at that price again
the risk with market orders is the trade may never execute

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>>10307708
>mfw leveraged vanguard trusts will be the first to get rekt in crash

>> No.10307831

>>10307475
Why. Sell me it

>> No.10307837

>>10307825
dude its not even delayed, its straight up innacurate. I placed a limit buy at .003245 and the chart literally went BELOW THAT and it didnt buy

>> No.10307840

>>10307809
First mistake is buying crypto. Second is using robinhood.

>> No.10307841

>>10307799
>4% battery
So this is the kind of subhuman trash that buys shitcoins

>> No.10307843

>>10307809
The "current price" is an average of the bid price and the ask price

And crypto has a large spread

>> No.10307846

>>10307746
>>10307770
I'm a 36 year old attorney with a good income and I invest about $25K a year not including my work matched 401K which I pretend doesn't exist.

I put about 10K into my dividend portfolio per year and then about 10K into my mutual funds and then 5K into my Roth IRA.

Reinvesting Dividends (and then using them for income later) is how I'm planning my retirement by pretending my 401K and my Roth IRA don't exist.

We're all playing the same game, I just play it different than you. I'm risk adverse minus the $~100 i add to my spec trade account every month

>> No.10307856

>>10307819
I was up almost a whole entire percent today then I went to go take a shower because of the heat. I came back and my percent was ripped out of my hands and instead I got a -.05%. Truly one of the worst days of my life. On the other hand my MSFT option is doing great!

>> No.10307862

>>10307809
oh and you're trading crypto so the spreads are terrible due to low trading volume.
the "price" on the graph is probably the last time the trade exectued
the price on the order screen is probably the lowest asking price, but robinhood isnt clear on that
since you're trading crypto, please move this to another thread

>> No.10307866

>>10307843
why not just have that proce that pops up on the limit buy page be the number on the actual chart, seeing as how your limit buy will only actually go through once the former hits the desired price and the latter seems to be completely fucking inaccurate?

>> No.10307878

>>10307846
if you have high income, consider the tax effects of dividends

>> No.10307881

>>10307866
Because suckers like you will market order and give them mad stacks of cash, so that they can continue to do it for free

>> No.10307883

>>10307846
enjoy your future billions

>> No.10307885

so did anyone else notice the large as fuck volume on NUGT today?
this was, by a LARGE margin, the biggest day ever for that ETF in terms of volume. what did they meme by this?

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>>10307791
>"most indexes grow 30% a year"
>ignores the longer view on a buy and hold div stock

>> No.10307896

>>10307464
It's time to unironically buy HMNY stock now.

>> No.10307903

>>10307520
I beat you again Ratsu
my portfolio will soon surpass yours and there is nothing you can do about it

>> No.10307923

>>10307881
how is it not illegal to deliberatly mislead people like this? i dont think it says anywhere on robinhood “hey by the way the only accurate price is the price in the limit but window”

its like robinhood is deliberately tricking people into market buying. even if that IS in their TOS somewhere, how is this not a problem that more people talk about? the fact that your broker is actively trying to mislead you?

>> No.10307937

>>10307881
and also

im a sucker if i market buy because the price isnt accurate

but on the flip side, nothing fucking happens if i limit buy because the price isnt accurate

why does anyone use this fucking garbage app?

>> No.10307942

>>10307896
if you guys are so interested in gambling on penny meme stocks like HMNY that are struggling to keep from getting de-listed, why not just buy OTC memes? theyre usually round 100th of the price of HMNY right now, and with the added benefit that they are already de-listed

>> No.10307952

>>10307840
What's wrong with using robinhood?

>> No.10307954

>>10307923
almost fucking no one ever uses market buys m8
i dont know how you never noticed this

>>10307937
RH frontruns your limits too
>why does anyone use this fucking garbage app?
i have absolutely no fucking clue

>> No.10307962

>>10307923
Because you would be making the opposite complaint if you were trying to sell it, and noticed your selling price is lower than what the market price is

Also take it to another thread, this is stock market general, not Robinhood customer support
>>10307937
No one is forcing you to use it

>> No.10307967

>>10307937
that's true for every broker
if you want 100% to-the-micrcosecond accuracy, you need to move to next to the exchanges and compete with the high-frequency guys
either market buy, or put in a limit order for the maximum you'd be willing to pay and walk away

>> No.10307974

>>10307923
Rh is quite up front about market orders being a limit with 5% margin over current price. The prices they show are the same as what you'd see elsewhere. Congrats, you learned an important fundamental of trading for pretty cheap and the lesson is probably strong enough you won't forget it

>> No.10307980

>>10307826
that wasnt very Golden Bull of you

>> No.10307999

Why is this market so cock suck right now?

>> No.10308008
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10308008

srsly tho
why did this >>10307885 happen?

>> No.10308010

>>10307952
Its delayed as fuck man. I guess if you're holding for longer than a day it's ok but for day trading its shit

>> No.10308012

>>10307999
Because you called (((them))) out and are being punished

>> No.10308015

Convince me why investing in stocks is a better idea than investing in crypto

>> No.10308016

>>10307903
maybe in the long term, but not the long-long term

>> No.10308024

>>10308010
Day trading is a meme

>> No.10308041

>>10308016
That's fine, I'm playing for the long-long-long term
btw thanks for the GIS rec, I'm already up $1.15 on it

>> No.10308055

>>10308024
in crypto maybe because it's all chink whales liquidating margin fags. But people can actually do well in stocks.

>> No.10308060

>>10307974
so robinhood says there is no fee yet you have to limit buy everything 5% higher than the current price and sell everything 5% lower than the current price

are these not fees??

>> No.10308066

>>10308041
shit nevermind I'm down in AH

>> No.10308067

>>10308015
you buy stock, you own part of a company
that company (provided you dont buy pajeet shit) exists.

they are also more stable, and there are many more vehicles for you to hedge. dividends are a bonus, liquidity is no problem, and if you want leverage to give you similar returns as crypto, you can have it via trading derivatives, or hi risk OTC memes.

the real question is, why would you buy and hold non real commodity?

>> No.10308080

>>10307885
There was huge volume on GLD, like this is the bottom and shit's in accumulation for the next distribution. You could make a fuckload just loading up on GDX calls for the month.

>> No.10308081

>>10308060
no retard, when you put in a limit order at a price higher than the lowest ask, the trade executes at the lowest ask
christ

>> No.10308098

>>10308080
thats what i thinking
sadly i think my SLV calls will not live to see that day

>> No.10308101

>>10308008
Same thing with oil but that one is understandable given the drawback and macro
>>10308060
No. If you place a market buy it's submitted as a limit at 5% over current price. This is why it's a stupid idea. Go read up on bid/ ask spreads

>> No.10308104

>>10307937
because some people are good at math and some aren't
traditional broker: $5 per trade
$500 trade. 1% = $5
1% on each trade is going to cut into your bottom line enormously. with a RH limit order you pay nothing.
So unless you're averaging at least $5000 per trade it really isn't worth it to use a traditional broker
and even at that level the benefits of switching are questionable

>> No.10308105

>>10308081
why woildnt it just execute at the price i set?

>> No.10308120

>>10307609
LMT has been and probably will be garbage in 2018 and CEO Marilyn Hewson has basically communicated such. I sold it earlier in the year at 326. I would expect a big 2019 from them though.

>> No.10308133

>>10308060
srsly faggot, we dont care. almost every day we tell people RH frontruns your orders. were not RH customer support.

go read the ToS m8
they say pretty clearly how they sell your orders to citadel

>> No.10308148

>>10308101
yeah on USO that was mostly done in 5 mins
35M shares bought today

>> No.10308149

>>10308105
why would you want to pay more than you had to?

>> No.10308162

>>10308105
why dont you read a fucking book about liquidity you stupid nigger?

>> No.10308164

>>10307878
it'll be at 15% for at least the next 5-10 years. Unless my firm grows and its profits grow huge, i don't have to worry about it going to the 20% tax bracket

>> No.10308168

anyone else holding a little overstock.com, here?

>> No.10308178
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>>10308041
>>10308066
theres no turning back

>> No.10308179

>>10307540
careful with IQ on earnings. it can turn in to the next TWTR, TWLO OR SHAK. "Netflix of china" is extremely overhyped and with high net loss.

>> No.10308199

>>10308164
jealous that you can save $25k + $18k while the 15% bracket
thats what a 50% savings rate assuming you're married and filing jointly at the top of the bracket

>> No.10308233

>>10308199
Qualified divs follow a different tax schedule than regular income

>> No.10308253

>>10308199
>25K + 18K
huh? I just save 25K for investments

>> No.10308263

>>10308233
oh yeah I forgot about that. that makes more sense.

>> No.10308275

>>10308253
you said you 401k it up which has a yearly limit of 18k

>> No.10308297

>>10308275
401k is taxed on gains, honestly without the match pretty meh desu.

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>>10308178
>already back up in after hours
I'm gonna make it
time to eat some Wheaties

>> No.10308302

>>10307942
What are the OTC memes?

>> No.10308320
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>>10307464
>>10307475
>>10307504
>>10307516
>>10307520
>>10307533
>>10307535
>>10307540
>>10307542
>>10307576
>>10307583
>>10307607
>>10307609
>>10307656
>>10307669
>>10307708
>>10307724
>>10307738
>>10307746
>>10307770
>>10307791
>>10307799
>>10307809
>>10307819
>>10307825
>>10307831
>>10307837
>>10307840
>>10307841
>>10307843
>>10307846
>>10307856
>>10307862
GET OFF MY BOARD BOOMER FUCKS
BITCOIN IS KING, GO DIE OF OLD AGE SOMEWHERE ELSE

>> No.10308327

>>10308253
>>10308263
its basically $1000 per paycheck I put away to invest in my portfolios, then put a little in an online savings acct and prep for the gov't to rape me come tax season

>> No.10308335

Down .31% today, not bad considering yesterday I gained like 1% or so, I was afraid of a bigger pullback today but everything went better than expected.

>> No.10308359

>>10308275
I don't think I max my 401K. I contribute 5% of my income to it and my company matches 3%. I actually don't even know how much I put per year in it but I could calculate it likely.

>> No.10308366

Looks like SPY closed above 280, did Comfy and RKG an hero yet?

>> No.10308380

>>10308320
Heh... Sorry kiddo, did you make 7% off bitcoin today? Didn't think so...

>> No.10308381

>>10308335
how the hell could u be down today

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>>10308366

>> No.10308392

>>10308302
over the counter stocks

theyre stocks that are delisted or havent been listed. sometimes OTC stocks will be legitimate compnies too, but from other countries, like nintendo, or the proxies that a lot of burgers have been using to trade leafland weed companies.

more often than not, theyre hopeless stocks that will die, but you can find some that arent totally doomed. and its pretty easy to get +100% RoI in a day if the stock is worth one tenth of a cent.

cant trade em on RH tho

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>>10308380
Fugg forgot pic

>> No.10308420

>>10308366
kneepad had a meltdown

>> No.10308433

What happened to sunrun? Kind of looks like a good place to get in to me.

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>>10308359
Yesterday almost everything I was holding closed green so I'm not too worried.

>> No.10308444

>>10308435
T could get rough soon.

>> No.10308449

>>10308435
brkb was so shit today
its almost like buffet panic sold BAC right before it mooned

>> No.10308455
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10308455

Anybody know when tesla will start going up for real? It went up like 11 dollars today but how long until it start going to mars?(hehe get it instead of the moon)

>> No.10308456

>>10308433
i think energy stocks will surge as oil takes off again
thats not a bad idea desu

>>10308395
>portfolio diversity 97%
this seems a little irresponsible desu comf

>> No.10308464

>>10308444
It's possible, if the lawsuit goes their way then it's gonna moon though. I'm gambling on that one and have my stop in place.

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10308466

>>10308381
I bought FNGD at open based on Nasdaq futures before open

Down 2% reeeeeeeee

Not sure if this is gonna slump more or if I’m bagholding til the (((crash)))

>> No.10308483

>>10308455
TSLA will never trade anywhere near its ATHs ever again

cap this

>> No.10308490

>>10308433
Sunrun's CEO is fugging hot
>>10308420
Tomorrow's red and she'll get bogged in cruel irony

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>>10308455
Earnings 8/1. Possibly some small run up before then. Or after if the unthinkable happens and they don't disappoint

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10308505

>>10308490
Pic related is the CEO

>> No.10308507

>>10308466
NASDAQ Is the fucking greatest dude im up 2% on 'da daqqq I guess if u bleed today youll be green tommrow though

>> No.10308523

>>10308505
>>10308490
Not Asian enough, that's how I prefer them.

>> No.10308534

>>10308505
>ms
Offer to be her sex slave, you could triple your portfolio easy

>> No.10308535

>>10308490
>>10308505
not bad desu senpai
but on the other hand, id be wary of trying to bang some bitch whos a CEO. unless you like gettin dommed the fuck out

>> No.10308551

>>10308523
AMD is more your speed then

>> No.10308553

>>10308449
I'm getting a little tired of holding BRK to be honest. I've had it for 1 month and it's not doing anything but move .5% up or down from where I bought it. I could've stuck that $5k into an index tracking fund and been better off.

>> No.10308576

>>10308505
MOMMY

>> No.10308577

>>10308553
buffets fucking retarded and went all in BAC
expect that to continue to happen until BAC crashes, when you will lose absolutely everything

>> No.10308592

>>10308553
jeez i sold that 6 months ago and it still hasn't recovered.
boring boomer stock

>> No.10308599

>>10308551
Not a good time to buy them right now, going to wait for Mama Su to take a dip before I make my move.

>> No.10308629

>>10308577
I'm probably just going to dump my BRK.B soon. I'm $8k into margin at the moment and I'd like to get that back down to $0.

>> No.10308631

>>10308535
Girls don't dom they just take your money and fuck chad. The only girls who dom are bull dykes who are so bitchy is not even domming it's just sustained emotional and physical abuse, and no guy in his right mind would go anywhere near those.

Anime dom girls don't exist outside of that medium.

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10308659

>go on youtube
>default logo homepage: Obama Lecture video

>> No.10308664

>>10308592
its literally MUCH more boring than 90% of the boomer stocks. i honestly dont know how hes managed to underperform almost all of his holdings this year, but i also dont care either.

>>10308599
yea i might short them down to 9 or 10, as per tradition

>>10308631
if you think that chicks who land themselves 5.6M/yr executive management jobs arent domme af in the bedroom, then idk what to tell ya m8

>> No.10308684

>>10308535
In my experience, a lot of women who are in management positions actually prefer to be really submissive in bed. Being in charge at work goes against their nature and stresses them out so letting someone else take charge in bed and order them around and manhandle them is like a release for them.

>> No.10308686

>>10308664
if you think that chicks are capable of going outside their biological matimg behaviors I don't know what to tell you

>> No.10308727

>>10308435
>>10308444
nice trips

also I'm increasing my position in T, the dividend is high and there's like a 5% chance the DOJ wins the appeal. Appeals have to be based on the information available at trial and no new information can be added. Even the judge warned the DOJ its not wise to appeal this decision

>> No.10308730

>>10308686
I mean both genders are capable of doing that, it just doesn't happen often. I agree with you though that everyone has a submissive side but I will always dom because I'm a perverted sadist who thinks the world needs a dicking.

>> No.10308749
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10308749

>>10308534
>>10308576
>>10308631
>>10308684
>>10308686
Find a moar attractive CEO
Spoiler, you can't
We need to invest in attractive female CEOs, sunrun is a buy for mommy

>> No.10308775

>>10308664
I understand why you would assume powerful women are dominant in bed, but in reality they’re really not. If snything, they tend to be more submissive from what I’ve experinced and heard.

>> No.10308778

>>10308749
>sierra club
nope.jpg

they went from a decent company to an uber progressive liberal cuckpany

>> No.10308782

>>10308686
lol
forgive me, but you just tried to explain women to me by saying that "anime girls dont exist outside of that medium", so imma have to disregard youre advice on women

dom chicks exist, i assure you, even outside of management positions. bretty fun sometimes too imo, but not something for the faint of heart. i was just warning comfy

>>10308684
im just saying, im looking at that chick rn, and i can tell from that twinkle in her eye, shed be more likely to dick comfy, than he would her

>> No.10308784

>>10308749
>tfw you'll never have tough CEO mommy to cover you in goo

>> No.10308786
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10308786

Is it even worth making stock trading essentially my job by learning all this shit and keeping track of news and predicting shit or should I just give money to the broker pros that know much more than I do?

>> No.10308789
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10308789

>>10308749
>investing in women's leadership capabilities

>> No.10308803

>>10308775
the jawline is what tipped me off more than anything

ive seen that jawline before

>> No.10308813

>>10308782
after dealing with crazy ass bulldykes all through high school I refuse to go near any girl who gives me more than a reasonable amount of trouble, or even looks crazy

>> No.10308820
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>>10308749
You called?

>> No.10308823

>>10308813
fair enough
i currently have no position either

>> No.10308828

>>10308789
>>10308784
>>10308749
>Mommy CEO "Oh hey Anon--oh uh, is that your portfolio? It looks kind of small...."
>"W-w-well, I-I'm just starting."
>Mommy CEO "Oh that's cute, you almost ready for that vacation I'm paying for."
>"Y-yeah..."

>> No.10308845

>>10308179
I can't find their next earnings date anywhere

>> No.10308863
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10308863

>>10308820
>that nose
is he half black?

>>10308828
>mfw
fuck m8
id play that part if she wanted me to desu senpai

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10308885

>>10308828

>> No.10308905

>>10308786
Understanding time value is important. Unironically put your money in index funds and forget about for 30 years for solid gains with no effort

>> No.10309004

>>10308786
I mean, I actually really enjoy watching charts, keeping up with market news, and reading company financial statements. If you don't like doing that stuff then just pay a financial advisor to keep up with your shit for you or just throw your retirement money into some index funds and forget about it.

>> No.10309066

>>10308828
>Mommy CEO: "I'm sort of stuck in a rut..."
>"I put together this presentation on how to grow the business, w-want to see?"
>Mommy CEO: "This is great! I'm putting you in chanrge of a new division for this project. You'll get you own desk of course.."
>Mommy CEO: "Under my chair with your head between my legs."
>"W-what?"
>Mommy CEO: "I'm just kidding, of course. You'll get your own office. That would be fun though. Do you want to try it, just for a day? You do want to try it, right?"
>"....Y-yes ma'am..."

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>>10309066
wew

>> No.10309227

>>10307516
Pls dad i have a 134 call one of you fucks made me buy>>10307516

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>>10307464
TSLA is now what AMZN was in 2011. Don't tell me you fell for the zerohedge meme.

>> No.10309256

>>10309227
I bought a lot of JNJ too. Is that a reasonable strike price? Looks really high to me.

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>>10309185
jennifer connelly was very hawt

Is anyone watching any companies with a low P/E or PEG or PB? I'm trying to find more like Lannett

>> No.10309272

>>10309227
lol that was definitely me
i have a couple (8) of the 133 ones i bought w some fuckaround money, because i saw them for 5 bucks a pop

on the bright side it looks like some cunt bought about 120M$ of them on the bell (and they held REALLY good at that new support), so who the fuck knows? maybe. its certainly down quite a bit on the year

>>10309256
lol it is absolutely not a reasonable strike price. but i still could see it happen desu

>> No.10309278

This market reminds me of the tech bubble. Shit's just going up because it's going up with almost no relation to whether or not the company is actually making increased profits.

>> No.10309301

>>10309278
were you trading during the tech bubble?
tell us about it pops. i legitimately like hearing about the good ol days

>> No.10309307

>>10309278
I too remember when HMNY hit 1000% stock growth this year

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>>10309270
Is anyone watching any companies with a low P/E or PEG or PB?

you would not necessarily want to do that these are mostly memes

>> No.10309356
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>>10309341
>but muh fundamentals

>> No.10309382

>>10309341
disgustedvalet.jpg

>> No.10309445
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10309445

fugging...

Either this garbage sector is about to nosedive for the second time this year or there is a big oversold bounce up coming. I haven't chosen to gamble. RSIs are too goddamn low this cannot continue. Every stop loss I set yesterday triggered. I then caught a bunch of falling knives (different knives) this morning. If I'm right this will be my second best year of trading, if I'm wrong it will be my worst performance in the last five years.

BIG BUCKS NO WHAMMIES GO

>> No.10309449

i got a new idea im gonna check out these next few days

im gonna look at this shit (relative volume map of ETFs) every day after close. list out the ones that have much higher than usual volume, place some paper trades on them on close, and then sell them on the opening or closing bell of the next day.

today the notable leaders were
>NUGT 17.38 (largest volume day in its history by a LOT)
>USO 2.63
>USCI 3.15
>IWN 2.94
>VCIT 3.87

>> No.10309457
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>>10309356
oh yes muh funda :) fundamentals work until they dont and pe and pb investing is just some 60's stuff. one reason many hedgefunds even missed all rallies and have closed doors past 10 years is they looked pe ratios of current s&p. somebody shorted their way to bankruptcy even

>> No.10309466
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10309466

>>10309449
forgot picc

>>10309445
im rootin for ya senpai
but it looks pretty bad if im bein honest

>> No.10309485

>>10309466
>it looks pretty bad if im bein honest

Indeed. That's why i posted the coin flip.

>> No.10309489

>>10309457
In your opinion chloe moretz, what would be a better way to evaluate companies in 2018?
(please no TA, I just can't)

>> No.10309530
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>>10309489
i rarely pick individual stocks and i dont want to tell too much about pretty much anything valuable :D but i would say that most people of here would be better of gambling dow or nasdaq long only coin flipping, at least they would not lose money and have positive Expected Value dispite no skills at all. instead of pickin stocks or even shorting them ...

>> No.10309583

>>10309530
>better off in index funds
This hurts me

>> No.10309604
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10309604

Div broski here. Delivering flowers today & i thought of you all :-) Get some dividends in your life yall.

>> No.10309605

random strategy, for example ta strat, long/short would have better outcome with stocks tho, than with long/short random dow. but long dow only even completely random strategy tends not to lose moneys simply because of upward bias of market, inflation etc

>> No.10309626
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10309626

most strategies are random, people dont realize it. whether it's ta, ta indicator combinations especially are most fully random trading or some funny fundamental numbers combination

>> No.10309628

>>10309466
some other notable ones
>EWP 10 (spain? really?)
>EUFN 4 (lol euro financials? i may need a more stringent filter than rel volume)
>VIS 7.6
>IJJ 3.3

i think imma gonna write a strategy in pine editor tonight and combine this relative volume thang with a couple other indicators and leave it running for the rest of the week. this could be a fun thing to do with extra cash sitting around at the end of the day

>>10309530
its not the worst idea desu
im bretty bad at choosing individual stocks myself, but i know it, so i tend to stick to the things that i can call regularly for active trading plays (oil and bonds). i also play OTC companies a lot too, but ive gotten pretty handy w the dollar cost avg meme, so thats actually been consistently profitable for me. its mostly just vigorous screening of the OTC company for pajeetery, and patience

>> No.10309648

>>10309530
>t. poorfag with no ideas who just wants (((you)))s

>> No.10309667

>>10309648
yes yes i'll get your money when you trade dow

>> No.10309671

>>10309648
i mean hes right tho
this is why everyone thinks theyre a pro trader in a bull market. shit mostly goes up

then we get to the sideways realm (not even down), and all of a sudden everyone tries to trade and time it and loses fucking everything

>> No.10309719
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>>10309648
whenever somebody gives legimitave tips than can even save money for most people there are at least one third of the people who simply get angry and confused. and ive seen it with other people who gives actually super good advices you are just an example

>> No.10309759

>>10309667
i mean obviously, if youre not LARPing, youre not gonna give out any winning strats. i cant blame you either

but what are some basic aspects/fundamentals of a winning strat, in your eyes? like, what would be the building blocks of something that you would look for?

>>10309719
lol, everyone wants to believe theyre smaht and r a pro trader, and no one likes admitting that theyre a retarded faggot (even anonymously,online).

ive become much more profitable the more ive accepted my retarded faggotry

>> No.10309770
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>>10309719
>I have really great ideas and market insight but lollll it's a secretttt~~~
>you're just too stupid to understand
>no I won't share anything get on my level
2/10 got me to reply

>> No.10309779

>>10309604
illinois?

>> No.10309801

>>10309770
if anyone had a seriously winning strat, why on earth would they dump the specifics of it on here, on a public forum? thats just asking to get fucked over

>> No.10309812
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10309812

>>10309770
never said i great ideas and market insights. i was asked to give better ways to evaluate companies. you seem just really silly, would not hang out with you 1 minute even if you paid me.

>> No.10309856

>>10309604
oh shit nvm
new mexico?

>> No.10309888

>>10309812
chloe moretz would be better as a shemale

>> No.10309921
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10309921

>>10309759
Me godtier trader
Screw you!

>> No.10309981

>>10309888
she already looks like one desu senpai
and she aged like milk that got left in a car
literally built like a fridge

>>10309921
the fact that youve been permabear this whole time and arent liquidated yet is honestly impressive desu senpai

btw, do you know any site that has good tutorials on how to write strategies in tradingviews pine editor? i wanna backtest some of my meme indicators ive been making

>> No.10310019

>>10309856
thems new mexico plates

>> No.10310042

>>10310019
it doesnt look like mars tho, so i think hes in socal

>> No.10310064

>>10310042
It's the nice part of town lol

>> No.10310092
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10310092

>>10309888
shemales have gone thru male to female. not valid for chlomo :)

>> No.10310093

>>10310042
street signs look nothing like socal

>> No.10310118

>>10309981
Today was me first loss shorting in stocks, lost like $40 which = one week of profits
Really thought 280 were eternal bag holders

There are like three YouTube videos for Pine back testing and that's it

There not much documented on Pine because it so easy
Just copy parts of some people strat or I can help you too

Also all the big names will help you too, lazybear, RS, justuncle, Chirst Moody

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>>10310118
>Just copy parts of some people strat or I can help you too
thats what i was gonna do, but wanted to see if you knew of anything.

i managed to get the basics down somewhat on the actual writing of the indicators.
check out my new indicator: the shekel flow.
its basically a chaikin money flow indicator, but it has inputs so you can average the volume out over a few bars so that gaps up and down dont screw it up

///
study("shekel flow", scale=scale.right)
nigger = input(defval=16, title='period length', minval=5, maxval=42)
fag = input(defval=2, title='gap adjust period', minval=1, maxval=10)
clo = sum(close, fag)
lo = sum(low, fag)
hi = sum(high, fag)
clov = clo / fag
lov = lo / fag
hiv = hi / fag
clow = clov - lov
hicx = hiv - clov
hlox = hiv - lov
clic = clow - hicx
mfm = clic / hlox
vol = sum(volume, fag)
volk = vol / fag
mfv = mfm * volk
mfmx = sum(mfm, nigger)
mfvx = sum(volk, nigger)
sf = mfmx / mfvx
sfx = sf * 1000000
cond = sfx > 0
plot(sfx, title="shekel flow", color=(cond ? #22FD00 : #FD0000), style=histogram, linewidth=2)
///

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Sold out of UXIN, took a $140ish loss. Threw the money into HYRE. Hoping for LTBR to hold above a dollar and some info to be released about the grant process.

>> No.10310256

>>10310211
i know youre a hi risk memester.
you trade OTC stocks ever?

>> No.10310366

Anyone know how to code automatic Fibonacci meme lines onto charts? Looking at thinkorswim.

>> No.10310481

>>10310201
Kek that chart
Not bad add ons, but you were like wondering how to make that into buy sell strat?

>>10310366
Here ya go
https://www.tradingview.com/script/xRulBQ9h-Automatic-and-Dynamic-Fibonacci-levels-by-tekolo/

>> No.10310514

>>10309341
Ally.

>> No.10310524

>>10310481
eh ill figure it out desu
thanks tho

this pine editor thing is brutally ez
i managed to teach myself a good amount about it in a weekend. now i just gotta fuck around w it some more.

part of me wonders if i should just start learning python, but then, id rather learn on something with less of a steep learning curve. even if that DOES mean im gonna have to re-learn some stuff when i try to learn python.

>> No.10310566

>>10310524
Well, if you want some lines can give you but yes its easy and the hardest part will be finding parameters that not retarded

Me learning python right now
It's the only way to go
Python v3 is THE ONLY trader language

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>>10308749
NTLA founder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Doudna

support moma during dip

>> No.10310605

>>10310566
yeah ill just work through it myself for now. thats the best way to learn this stuff it seems.
if i get too stumped ill post again at some point. thanks tho
>Python v3 is THE ONLY trader language
so ive heard

>> No.10310607

>>10310211
i've been holding LTBR for you.

>> No.10310633

>>10310481
Tanks

>> No.10310739

Good morning /smg/.
What did I miss?

>> No.10310761

>>10307464
>How'd you do today /smg/?
Bought 20 or so NFLX 7/27 $400 Call’s at opening bell. Sold them at today’s peak after the 10% recovery.

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Who here averaged down instead of cutting their losses on ALT?

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>>10310739
THIS REEEEE

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$BILI if you like anime,games and livestream.

>> No.10310845

>large growth mutual fund
>literally 0 effort
>consistently gain 1% every week

:)

>> No.10310849

>>10310817

>it's that one BILI shill again
Nigga BILI is hardly doing anything with that stock

>> No.10310929

Tomorrow at opening is the right time to buy HMNY, people. I can feel it.

>> No.10311022

So why did TSLA pump 4% today?

>> No.10311042

>HMNY
>ALT
Fuck all of you. Never going to get another stock from this board again.
You all suck.

>> No.10311051

>>10311022
https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+30%

>> No.10311076

>>10311042
buy LCI

>> No.10311082

>>10311042

>>10063639
>>10063639
>>10063639
You had a change to get in the /OPKO/ hyperbull, but now you will die in poverty with ZERO(0) gains

>> No.10311124

>>10311042
You're one of us now

>>10311076
The /smg/ bagholder's unholy trinity
>HMNY
>ALT
>LCI

>> No.10311136

>>10307896
1) Read their profile, still unsure how they make money.

2) what is your catalyst for pulling this jewel out of your ass now?

>> No.10311178

>>10311051
what a fucking joke. Their cars being low margin wasn't even priced in. But them being what everyone knew they were sends the stock soaring.

>> No.10311213

>>10311042
that is what you get for fucking with penny stocks.

>> No.10311268

>>10311178
Munro & Associates were the most cited news source for people wanting to short TSLA and see it fail. They did a 180 so all the people that trust their every beck and call followed them

>> No.10311302

>>10311213
the other thing i find ridiculous is how everyone just expects anyone to know how, when or if a pennystock is gonna moon. then they get all butthurt and kvetch and moan on here cuz "the stock i bought went down. not up. what do /biz/?"

its completely fucking ridiculous

>> No.10311322

>>10311136
its just a bagholder m8

>> No.10311372

>>10311124
As I fall asleep I buy all these stocks. Then wake up in the morning and cancel all the orders

>> No.10311431

>>10311268
That must cost a small fortune for Munro to tear down a car and then estimate the cost of every component. I estimate their time and expenses for that job at least 750K if theyre close to correct. How do they gain from it without longing Tesla and not telling anyone lol?

>> No.10311439

>>10311268
>https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+30%


These retards attempting to price a car by how it looks after you tear it down. These morons realize that there are probably 5x the labor costs going into each one of these things when compared to a regular car right? Especially when a company is manufacturing in one of the most parasitic states for taxes on one of the most expensive pieces of real estate to produce one.

>> No.10311440

>>10310849
no such thing as get rich quick it will moon in time. the Chinese government even likes bilibili and made an account on it.

>> No.10311445

>>10311431
They charge almost $90k for exclusive access to the report before everyone else

>>10311439
You're a retard for making such simple assumptions

>> No.10311460

>>10307464
+$6,000
How about you?

>> No.10311478

>>10311178
Stop questioning the stock market and just roll with it, it's inherently emotional and irrational in the short term (and that's a good thing).

>> No.10311503

>>10311440
Let me guess: you just have a "hunch"

>>10311124
What a time to be alive. I bought 1 of each, just to please you guys.

>> No.10311523

>>10311445
They pay an assembly line worker 76k per year. Now they all just got a shitton of overtime for squeezing in a month what most other auto manufacturing can do in a day. Its not priced in correctly; but if these guys want to pump and dump the stock like Elon, IDGAF I'm flat on TSLA.

>> No.10311538

any good links to DOW S&P etc. Futures when markets are closed?

>inb4 whats listed in OP's links

>> No.10311542

>>10311431
Selling reports for 87k a piece.

>>10311478
It really isn't a good thing. And it isn't short term. TSLA has been in business way too long to be hemorrhaging that much money. Tech companies now have higher P/E ratios than human lives (as valued by insurance companies and litigators). That is way too much trust to extend on a future that might not happen. Doing good should be rewarded, not being popular. Seeing value should be rewarded, not voting on winners to squeeze out the little guy.

>> No.10311546

>>10311538
>what is Google?

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Does /smg/ dab every time they make 1 dollar?

>> No.10311560

>>10311548
What is the pose that the virgin is doing?

>> No.10311579

>>10311560
>>10311548
gotta ask why you post this in every fucking thread.. this is actually the only second time i've ever seen anybody respond to it, but really want to know what the point is

>> No.10311585

>>10311503
>"hunch"

like in body posture? too fit to have one.

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>>10311548
me does
>>10311560
>id kek
you are mesia

>>10311503
trading off hunchs' apex of master trader

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>>10311585
Unsure if you're just pretending to be retarded

>> No.10311605
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10311605

All of my portfolio is ARKK. Should I take out 100% margin and use it all for QQQ? Margin is about 5% APR.

>> No.10311623

>>10311600
>>10311585
kek please be talking about two different things

>> No.10311633
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>>10311600
it has more then one definition you know. also I was not joking about the Chinese government liking bilibili. that is how big and popular bilibili is.

>> No.10311659

>>10311633
That still doesn't mean anything. Convince me to get on the BILI train, and also persuade me that it's not on fire. I'm all ears.
I really want to, but I feel very skeptical and at the moment I feel like there are better vidya companies to invest in.

>> No.10311673

will IBM moon tomorrow afterhours because of ER?

>> No.10311693

>>10311673
nope
they're DOA

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>>10307464
Down .51%, but unphased

>> No.10311874

where do you guys see AMZN in 6 months?

>> No.10311886

>>10308179
I may sell day before earnings date, have not decided yet. I'm following it very closely.

>> No.10311893

>>10311542
Nigger please

>> No.10311899
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>>10311659
good price and with a very loyal user base. also is very diverse in entertainment both online and offline. here is a picture of bilibili macro link.

>> No.10311901

>>10311874
getting beat down by the monopoly hammer

>> No.10311911

If you don't count after-hours, today was my best day ever. +$800/8.49% today. Mostly NVDA, FNGU, and SQ, with Adobe calls and SHOP pulling weight.

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>>10311548

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>>10311941
never ment to make yo doggy cry

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>>10312013
I AM FOR REAL

>> No.10312062

>>10311901
>7% of online retail market share
>AWS has competitors in Microsoft and Google, to start with
>monopoly

>> No.10312104

>>10311899
Will consider it after DD.
Why are you even shilling it this much?

>>10312052
>>10312013
Stop violence against 2D girls. Yes, Nevada-tan is 2D now, as she keeps living in my heart.

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>>10312013

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>>10312104
>>10312212
>>10312052
>Stop violence against 2D girls
KEK
REACH
HEAVEN
THROUGH
VIOLENCE

>> No.10312344

>>10312253
this is true, you cant pass to the afterlife unless you experience a painful death

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DO I BUY TSLA OR NOT? IM SO TORN AND IM READY TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THAT EMOTIONAL CYBERJOCKEY

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>>10311911
Congrats! We all chase bigger and bigger highs my man. I felt that way the other day with a 10%er but today’s 100%er drove that one to the dustbin of “whatever”

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>>10312344
let me be your Gabriel
like an angel unto thee
me will deliver you
into empyrean

(holy shittt need to get off these drugs)

>> No.10312568

>>10312474
I don't see a reason to be TSLA long. If you want a company that is all hopes and dreams, why not just go NFLX?

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>>10312568
>Basedflix
I rather invest in a balding lunatic than a shitty entertainment service.

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>>10311605
oh fuck it's a lainposter
sup my nigga

>> No.10312615

>>10312503
I guess since I posted my weekly gains, it’s fair to say this was obviously a YOLO. I spent all weekend calculating some hypothesis about NFLX. I took the hypothesis that it would would miss expectations or barely meet them, and in the former case I said it would plunge a lot, and in the latter case it would go down a few percent. I bought OTM puts but misjudged IV and sold them too later after open. I lost from the cost basis and was depressed, but realized the volatility was very low and NFLX was creeping to a recovery. So I dumped $2000 into a YOLO play of 7/27 $400 calls, since I read articles all morning about how this was “a good buying opportunity” and how people were still “bullish” about NFLX.

Cashed out around 450% up. It was briefly even higher, but I couldn’t sell fast enough. They ended the day only about 250% up since volatility crushed again late day, so I sold very near the option’s peak.

Don’t do what I do

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>>10312606
Appleman a shit. Bring back Kalyx.

>> No.10312645

>>10312568
I made a shit ton on NFLX and I refuse to play more than swings and volatility. It’s such a meme. The rest of FANG is pretty solid, but NFLX is simply incredibly overvalued compared to potential growth. I wish I could find a good FNGU/FANG-like ETF that doesn’t include NFLX.

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>>10312540
Nope, not gonna die

>> No.10312672

>>10312645
AMZN is a paper tiger as well. But TSLA can have so much go wrong. NFLX/AMZN just need to somewhat make earnings/users and they'll soar until all of FANG crashes in the next dotcom bubble.

>> No.10312702

>>10312642
Kalyx is on Arisuchan. Or was. I don't know. I browse both sites.

>>10311605
Also anons pls respond.

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>>10312642
arisuchan; my friend.
slow but good people there.

>> No.10312718

>>10312540
a family of trees falling....

>> No.10312740

>>10312672
Agreed on AMZN but it simply is much more of a company than Netflix. Netflix makes shitty movies and has a few cultural touchstone TV shows, but Amazon is a good company that surely is overvalued yet could slide into blue chip territory if it wanted to. Not like APPL has, not overnight, but there is a lot of backbone to Amazon. Solid, asset, logistical, and even cultural backbone.

Netflix falls and FB/AMZN plunge with it, because it’s sold the myth it deserves to belong with the other three. You can make the case for papa bezos, you can’t make it for red Hulu. It’s gonna be a popular stock to short one day, but they’ll have to miss more earnings first.

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>>10311605
Why would you use margin for QQQ and not do something like TQQQ that has the margin baked in for you without having to worry about maintenance and calls

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You fellas could have some fun with WWR if you're retarded enough. I'm already 80% in LTBR. Uranium fever will live again.

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>>10312757
Leveraged ETFs have beta slippage.

>> No.10312822

anyone else in AAXN? i got in kind of late but it's shaping up nicely

>> No.10312838

>>10311605
>>10312757
That's a funny way of spelling sqqq
>>10312253
Your daily life name is Mai Chan

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>>10312788
>was too impatient to hold ltbr

>> No.10312842

>>10312740
Agree that amazon has a good fundamental business and it somewhat deserves the valuation if it shows signs of success at expanding. But I really don't like how the market tends to overlook everything they fail at and devalues other companies just on the threat of amazon entering their space.

>> No.10312881

>>10311076
What makes you prefer LCI over ENDP?

>> No.10312985

>>10312881
ENDP is bad. It's already mooned, not undervalued, and isn't as healthy.
Sad

>> No.10313004

So VIX just spiked 15% in futures, is this due to oil FUD or is something about to happen tomorrow?

>> No.10313017

>>10313004
it says +0.32% to me...

>> No.10313042

>>10313004
Not seeing it either.

>> No.10313046

>>10312881
because i'm in it for the trade. ENDP has a market cap of 2.42 billion with a beta of .38 and short interest of only 19%.. most of the time i really don't give a shit about the company i'm trying to hit that trade. Share structure, market cap and 52wk lows is what matters to me most. I want to buy under the 200sma and sell above it. The company and what it does most of the time comes last unless its a "hot sector." Sure i look for value but i only look for value to fuel the demand and squeeze on that share structure.

>>10312985
what was that stock earlier? MDXG? their last 8k almost made me throw up, i'm going to look deeper into it but i'd be careful after reading that shit.

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>>10313017
Usually the gaps up on VIX arent this large

>> No.10313077

>>10313064
thats a contract rollover...

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>>10313004
SWEAR 2 GLOB IF SPY GAPS DOWN AFTER ME CLOSE SHORT GONNA SHOOT UP WALL ST TOMARROW

>> No.10313118

>>10313077
I see, the contract expires tomorrow though. Why gap up 15%? usually rollovers are pretty close. Is this just standard VIX manipulation?

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>>10313077
Looks like it's the ask price too.

>> No.10313140

>>10313118
thats just the difference bewteen the contracts
You see large gaps like that all the time in commodity futures. It isnt actually up 15%, the numbers are reset

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>>10313132
because its a new contract

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>that boomer whos portfolio is 100% coke

>> No.10313166

>>10313147
no shit nigger.

>> No.10313171

>>10313140

I guess looking back in 2017 it did this pretty frequently with every contract rollover. Which I guess if I had known more about this back then I could have made a lot of money buying the dip on the spx when VIX contracts rolled over. The only difference is that now we are actually in a volatile period.

This is the first time the contracts dont match by this large of a margin this year though.

>> No.10313178

>>10313171
you cant make money off the rollovers, its didnt actually go up 15%...

>> No.10313182

oil: continue shorting or buy the dip?

>> No.10313198

>>10313046
Yeah I was just reading about the class action lawsuit against them and I'm going to give it a pass, I don't want them to find some embezzlement problem and tank the whole company somehow

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>>10313097
You're going to get bogged hard, we could see it a mile away

>> No.10313217

>>10313178
No thats not what I mean, if you look at 2017 the indices all took a dip day when the VIX contracts expired, I'm guessing its something (((They))) do.

But if you look at this year the VIX contracts have all rolled over to roughly equally priced contracts since they expire monthly.

This could mean one of two things, we are (back to normal), meaning the rest of the year is now set to 2017 settings, or a bunch of people think VIX is worth holding onto through earnings.

>> No.10313229

>>10313198
i was talking about this filing.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1376339/000119312518215806/d398294d8ka.htm

>$975 per hour... hmmmmm

but i think you might be catching onto one of my trading strategies....

>> No.10313244

>>10313217
are you comparing to spx or spx futures? should be normal spx or else youll see rollovers their too
Im thinking the Vix is going to 11 possibly 10 again as we retest and rise above the spx top

>> No.10313248

>>10313178
Also how does this effect things like UVXY which arent futures contracts but based on the underlying VIX value? Do they suddenly make 15% just because futures decide to have a different bid/ask?

>> No.10313260

>>10311605
Anons pls respond (with good advice).
If u dont this lonely gnu without a home will cri 4 ever.

>>10312606
f-forgot to say hi l-lainon >_<

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>>10313260
I'm so clumsy! I forgot the pic ._.

>> No.10313278

>>10313248
no, they follw the normal vix and not vix futures. Even if they did, it would act like a cfd and your buy in would also change

>> No.10313292

>>10313260
just buy the QQQ
nasdaq 8k end of year

>> No.10313307

just a reminder.. LCI max pain is $15.. options expire friday...

>> No.10313366

>>10313248
No. But you can make out in another way. Article on the topic worth reading. https://sixfigureinvesting.com/2016/09/the-cost-of-contango-its-not-the-daily-roll/

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>>10308455
i have no idea how that company will ever make money.

Batteries and solar are both total meme technologies. Nuclear energy master race reporting in.

>> No.10313407

>>10312985
Endo bottomed and is finally beginning to turn around. Sure it's nearly doubled compared to recent months, but that doesn't mean it's done. In reality it's only re-achieved where it stood a year ago. Endo has massive leverage with over 8bil in debt, which will eventually turn over into significant upside. All major lawsuits are behind it and GAAP profit will soon be restored. Then there's Xiaflex - future cosmetic drug for cellulite expected in 2019. That's the true catalyst.

Endo is certainly more of a longterm play though, and you'd likely be able to find a better entry over the next 6 months. I'm sitting on 50% gains right now, but wouldn't be surprised if I'm looking at 500% in a few years. Of course 100% loss is also a possibility.

>>10313046
Understandable, but if you're just looking short term there are much better trades. Not much retail interest in this sector at the moment.

>> No.10313476

>>10313407
>Understandable, but if you're just looking short term there are much better trades. Not much retail interest in this sector at the moment.
i research my companies deep. after years of trading i learned it's better for me, for my personality to make sure i do my research and increase my probability of being right rather than just guessing. Sure I would say there are some better trades in the short term, but will i be able to catch them in time at a good price and understand them enough to get out at the right time? probably not. I try not to chase much hype, i try to do my research and fuck the crowd. The biggest gainers for me in the past have always been the ones that nobody seems to notice until it's too late. so if the sector is "dead" sometimes i see that as an opportunity seeing as i'm not trying to be caught up in every trend hitting the market everyday, i like to scale in and sleep well at night.

But what do you see for a trade for the next week or so? i might give it a go if i see a set up.

>> No.10313553

>>10313476
I'd say research works for small cap/med cap stocks that are less well known. Large cap is all emotion. Some companies get absolutely butchered no matter what they do (T) while TSLA and FANG can do no wrong.

>> No.10313556

>>10311548
I don't like it when you post this for the sole reason that you type
"1 dollar" instead of "one dollar". I've refrained from ever replying because I know that as soon as I let you know that bothers me, you will take pleasure in typing it wrong. Fuck it at this point, this is the only (you) you're getting. You'll get bored eventually, such is the way of men.

>> No.10313572

>>10313407
>I'm sitting on 50% gains right now, but wouldn't be surprised if I'm looking at 500% in a few years. Of course 100% loss is also a possibility.
also to add to that.. i rather take those 50% gains and rotate it somewhere else. The longest i like to hold a stock is 8 months.. even that is a long time. I have some stocks that i trade while keeping a core.. but why not lock in some of your 50% gains and find another company? i never understood why people don't do that with stocks. I own real estate and never think about selling it and looking for another property because liquidity isn't there neither is opportunity like there is in stock market. To get the full potential in stock market i see it as a rotation device, you can rotate money quicker.. if i wanted to sit on an investment for 5+ years id buy real estate that generates income.. not a stock.

>> No.10313602

>>10313600
NEW Thread?
>>10313600

>> No.10313612

>>10313553
>I'd say research works for small cap/med cap stocks that are less well known. Large cap is all emotion
i don't usually fuck with anything over 2billion market cap i'm more of the under 500mil market cap type of person...

Think if you are trying to get 100% on a stock that has 5billion market cap that means you need $5billion to flow into that stock.. at what rate will that happen? on what kind of news..

It's more likely that a stock sitting at 10million will double over night due to it only needing 10million to double. i'm not in stocks to find the next big thing or for dividends.. i'm in stocks to rotate money. thats it. I don't find trading stocks that gain maybe 10% a year special. Everyone has their own style, but i'm not for that guessing game.. big money fucks with large stocks way too much imo

>> No.10313673

>>10313366
Thanks for this. This is really interesting. I wonder if some smart dickgirl can figure out some maths to find when VIX is starting to have backwardation. That would probably be a good indicator on when to buy or sell index contracts.

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I just rebalanced my entire 401K into essentially a money market fund (a not too bad one owned by my company which gives 5% annually guaranteed). I can't take the market bubble anymore, it has to pop soon.

>> No.10313710

New thread
>>10313675
>>10313675
New thread
>>10313675
>>10313675

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