VECHAIN ANTI-FUD

[Anonymous No.10274162]

This is no China Hustle, this is the real deal. VeChain is down 21% compared to its value at the start of the year vs Bitcoin's 54% drop since Jan 1st, so people are irrationally upset by its performance. It had its dump later than other coins, that's all, but the fundamentals are still solid.

Here's a tiny sample:

DNV GL:
https://www.dnvgl.com/news/dnv-gl-buys-stake-in-leading-public-blockchain-service-provider-vechain-as-it-strengthens-commitment-to-raising-trust-and-transparency-through-digital-solutions-119749
Luca Crisciotti, CEO of DNV GL – Business Assurance, says, "The acquisition of a stake in VeChain is a natural progression of our relationship and the investment will allow us to transform our existing business model and bring Digital Assurance to a wider audience, including consumers."
—
China National Tobacco Corporation
https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-blockchain-solutions-to-enter-chinas-tobacco-industry-in-force-c92b3729878f
“VeChain will be providing proof of origin and anti-counterfeit technology to track Chinese produced tobacco products throughout the entire supply chain. This partnership came into place as China announced a crackdown on smuggled counterfeit cigarettes.”
—
Yida Group
https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-signs-a-partnership-agreement-with-yida-groups-it-management-division-yida-future-44d0663a2ac
“...VeChain Thor integration into current technology and the development of blockchain solutions that are customized to all existing clients and assets under Yida Group.”
“The first stage in development is to implement VeChain’s administrative blockchain solution into Dalian Software Park and B.E.S.T. City. This solution will allow the utmost precision and security when these companies, governments, and users sign contracts, design business plans, and follow authority procedures.”

[Anonymous No.10274197]

“DNV GL launches My Story™ - the blockchain based solution to tell the product’s full story"
https://www.dnvgl.com/news/dnv-gl-launches-my-story-the-blockchain-based-solution-to-tell-the-product-s-full-story-113549
“"My Story is our first solution based on our brand new Digital Assurance concept which already goes far beyond tracking a product from the point of origin up to the consumer. The VeChain powered Blockchain application will be available on DNV GL’s data management platform Veracity. This is only the first step of a longer journey in which we will leverage on the combined and coherent use of Blockchain, IoT, Data Curation and Artificial Intelligence to help customers building trust on their products, improving their performances and increasing efficiency in processes,””
—

VeChain and YunKeAn (LogSafer)
https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-and-yunkean-logsafer-a-leading-supply-chain-risk-management-platform-enter-into-47cc11694674
“On March 13, 2018, VeChain entered into a partnership with LogSafer, a leading supply chain risk management and a major logistics insurance platform in China with over 2,500 corporate clients. In the agreement, the two parties will work together to integrate big data and Internet of Things technology into existing and future solutions. “
—

VeChain Partners With InfoCorp’s Sentinel Chain
https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-partners-with-infocorps-sentenel-chain-to-provide-cross-chain-interoperability-to-help-the-63bba7f6eb3a
“...the Sentinel Chain model establishes livestock provenance through the creation of livestock insurance on the blockchain—the registration of livestock provenance on blockchain provides the unbanked with a new opportunity: the real possibility of accepting livestock as ‘collateral’ for loans.”
“Through this partnership, VeChain will integrate with Sentinel Chain to publish livestock provenance data on to VeChain’s public blockchain platform”

[Anonymous No.10274240]

And because this board is filled with morons who heard of that China Hustle movie and now think all their partnerships are just with Chinese companies they paid off, fuck you:

AUSTRALIA
“VeChain partners with Australian based 188 Business Alliance Association”
https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-partners-with-australian-based-188-business-alliance-association-6c266d2fca75
“VeChain has signed with 188 BAA to effectively manage the logistic park management solution using VeChain IoT applications. VeChain will be integrating a combination of drones and IoT with VeChain Thor to capture, source, manage, and secure big data solutions for warehousing zones and logistic parks for cross-border business operations.”
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GERMANY
https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-and-db-schenker-pioneer-in-the-use-of-blockchain-for-the-logistics-industry-55941c048070
“DBSchenker has developed a supplier evaluation system with VeChainThor platform. This is the first time that Blockchain is used for supplier management purposes. VeChainThor blockchain scores the business partners based on collected data and allows DB Schenker to better evaluate the service of the suppliers. In the future, the system and its related applications can potentially evolve into a platform widely shared and co-constructed by a broad range of logistics service providers.”

[Anonymous No.10274247]

[Anonymous No.10274258]

>>10274247
>>10274240

[Anonymous No.10274566]

/comfy/ veThor X here, if anyone wants to buy, let me know... 100 BTC at current prices, then you can put more Ve in it and ascend the ranks

[Anonymous No.10274823]

>>10274162
>>10274197
>>10274240
Oh nice OP, you've listed all the shit one has to scroll down furiously past to hit the VEN reddit daily to re-insure the dumb ass's it is totally not a scam.

[Anonymous No.10274883]

>>10274823
compared to other shitcoins, vechain has an enormous amount of real world industry attention

why would DNV GL chain themselves to an obvious scam? come on now
>>10274566
so comfy with it that you are trying to sell it, right? retard

[Anonymous No.10275095]

>>10274883
i think they are just trying to stop the less well informed from believing all the ridiculous fud on biz and getting rekt. No one needs to rescue the price, that will more than rescue itself very soon...

[4chan Moderator No.10275328]

Moderator here.
Reminder that rational and informative posts are in violation of 4chan /biz/ terms and conditions. This board is for shitposting only. Specifically, all posts pertaining to "Vechain" or "VEN" must contain the words "chink scam" and "China Hustle" at least once and then said words must be repeated ad infinitum in each and every reply.
This is your first and final warning.

[Anonymous No.10275342]

>>10274162
>muh horse semen on the blockchain

[Anonymous No.10275365]

>>10275342
>muh horse semen up your moms ass

[Anonymous No.10275382]

you poor souls should watch the china hustle

[Anonymous No.10275395]

your chink bags must be heavy

[Anonymous No.10275427]

>>10274162
This dogshit coin gained value because of the bull market and BMW competition push to 82k Sats
It is the worlds biggest scam

China National partnerships was the BIGGEST FUCKING LIE!!!! I mean the PRC giving a giant project to some obscure fucking company of amateurs?Makes no sense and the fact that VeChain was whining not to enquire about the “the rumors are true BMW partnership” with BMW
then BMW revealed that it’s a startup garage

Also them Claiming to be partnered with vitalik until viralik cslled them out and then they go “ohhh we are in a partnership with a company vitalik was partnered with”


What a bunch of scamming pieces of shits.
They dumped their bags since the start and claimed it’s the “whales”

As for Jim Breuer etc
Keep in mind people like him are paid to represent a company

[Anonymous No.10275445]

>>10274883
DNV GL China or Hong Kong do not relate to the real one and these types of “partnerships” are not real, they’re only for namesake aka paid to appear in a partnership

China has been doin this endlessly and it was exposed in the China hustle

[Anonymous No.10275917]

>>10274162
>chinks pretending to be nordic gods

lmao I wont touch this out of principles

[Anonymous No.10276125]

>>10275445
you sound upset that a company like DNV GL is shilling VeChain across the world right now

[Anonymous No.10276142]

>>10275095
>that will more than rescue itself very soon...
every bagholder of every dead shitcoin has said it at some point LMAO
I don't mind making money in crypto on anything but there is nothing worse than deluded bagholders gettng emotionally attached to their shitcoins

[Anonymous No.10276671]

just so you all know, i've capped EVERY negative vechain post since rebranding and my image dump thread is going to be the most glorious thing you anons have ever fucking seen.

enjoy it while it lasts faggots

[Anonymous No.10276713]

Goddamn the stupidity here is painful. Do people really think Jim Fucking Breyer is getting paid to shill a coin. Really. A multi-billionaire VC has somehow been bought off by an obscure Chinese IT company, at the risk of his reputation. The guy who was Facebook's first outside investor is really going to jeopardize it all over a quick buck? Goddamn that FUD is stupid.

Also DNV is a global company, dipshit. If you're thinking of PwC having local offices in different geographies, you're correct that that is how the audit firm works, but no, they're not paid partners.

[Anonymous No.10276731]

>>10276125
there is still zero reasons why the token would have any value as asset.

[Anonymous No.10276822]

>>10276713
>Chinese IT company

And there lies the hustle.

[Anonymous No.10276843]

>>10276713
How do you still have money with this logic?

[Anonymous No.10276910]

>>10276843
what is wrong with his statements?

[Anonymous No.10277005]

>basing your system on PoA with secret node operators
>claiming you're the most adopted crypto with 0 proof and 50 blockchain transactions
>having 75% of your volume on a chink wash trading site
>run by a hustling scam artist whose strategy is to give away millions of his coins so people can operate "nodes"
>was a supply chain coin 5 months ago meant to track designer clothes and wine
>fueding with another Chinese shitcoin named waltonchain who's doing the exact same thing you are except they hired different shills
>setting up a bullshit "foundation" that's handpicked insiders that dumps propaganda all day
>recruiting the shittiest possible ICOs and calling yourself a platform
>claiming to have first mover advantage in a country that will never ever respect private property or privacy
>marketing to the west with chink spam groups like cream and Reddit faggots
>having a fanbase that consists of attack shills and people that post the scam artist face on popular gifs
>thinking VTHO or whatever faggot coin it's called now is going to be worth anything with no demand
>thinking "billion dollar partnerships" means billions in revenue
>thinking companies like DNV GL don't invest in broad research
>thinking PwC doesn't have other partnerships
>assuming node operators don't sell en masse and make what little pathetic VTHO you make worthless
>having multiple community admins banned for shitpostin faggotry
>diluting your main coin to copy TRON
>claiming your going to flip ethereum while being an ERC20 token with no product
>claiming you have a product that no one can publixally use
>releasing financial reporting that's impossible to verify or audit as real
>bragging about retard angel investors like Tim Draper (Theranos? Six Californias?) as geniuses
>claiming Ethereum is not "Enterprise friendly" while every single company is part of the EEA
>thinking Western companies are going to trust a chink scamcoin while we're in a trade war

It's fucking trash

[Anonymous No.10277068]

Le anti fud cake!

[Anonymous No.10277124]

>>10277005
This is an Anti-FUD thread, those points are dumb or are straight-up lies and are posted everywhere else every day on this board.

[Anonymous No.10277183]

>>10274162
Got my X node hooked up to my mobile wallet. App looks great. All fundamentals still the same as in January. Anyone who sold because of biz fud is glass hands emotional trader that got pajeeted by people trying to push the price down while the X node monitoring is temporarily on pause. Stay poor.

[Anonymous No.10277195]

>>10275328
topkek

[Anonymous No.10277201]

>>10274162
Sorry anon but its a PoA chain with anonymous block producers

It is quite literally the closest "blockchain" we have to dog shit.

[Anonymous No.10277202]

>>10277005
One example why this is dumb as shit:
>claiming to have first mover advantage in a country that will never ever respect private property or privacy
VeChain partnered with the state-owned China Tobacco Corporation. The Chinese government is cracking down on counterfeit cigarettes.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-07/21/content_30201115.htm
Your average business or person in China doesn’t respect this, sure. But the government cares that they’re losing money to counterfeiters, since the government runs a state monopoly on the sale of cigarettes. And the state-run company with that monopoly is working with VeChain.

[Anonymous No.10277242]

>>10277124
Copying and pasting the same shit over and over doesn't actually cause FUD, just extreme tedium.

[Anonymous No.10277298]

>>10275427
China national partnerships was pure speculation they never announced anything officially. BMW, PWC, DNV, etc are all piloting VeChain, that's how things work in enterprise sales. I love all you worthless neets that know nothing about the business world think massive international companies just sign contracts up from with no vetting process and then flip a switch and it's up and running. Drooling retards all of you...

[Anonymous No.10277313]

>>10277298
https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-blockchain-solutions-to-enter-chinas-tobacco-industry-in-force-c92b3729878f

https://cdn.vechain.com/vechain_national_government_partnership_guian_release.pdf

[Anonymous No.10277322]

>>10277201
Where do you actually get this pajeetery? Just because they haven't announced who will run the authority nodes yet doesn't mean that they will be anonymous when the project is properly up and running.

[Anonymous No.10277323]

>>10277202

No one is going to use a centralized block chain controlled by the chinese government dumbass.

[Anonymous No.10277326]

>>10276843
He clearly explained why it makes no sense for a billionaire to risk his reputation just to make a few bucks shilling a scam project. He doesn't need the money. Are you clinically retarded?

[Anonymous No.10277338]

>>10277323
>controlled by the chinese government dumbass.
Source?

[Anonymous No.10277348]

>>10277338
He is probably the boomer from December/January who thought the Chinese government could take your tokens away whenever they want.

[Anonymous No.10277359]

>>10277323
>headquarters in Singapore
>controlled by Chinese government
You're not even trying

[Anonymous No.10277381]

>>10277359

>Shanghai

[Anonymous No.10277393]

>thinking "billion dollar partnerships" means billions in revenue
>thinking "billion dollar partnerships" means billions in revenue
>thinking "billion dollar partnerships" means billions in revenue

[Anonymous No.10277417]

lol remember when stupid faggots were calling it "the vlippening"?

There are people that unironically believe a Chinese scam coin is going to displace fucking ethereum. Hahahahahah

[Anonymous No.10277507]

Vechain - a device for extracting wealth from gweilo.

[Anonymous No.10277682]

>>10277417
It won't replace it. Different markets. Ethereum is all consumer dapps (crypto kitties, pyramid schemes, etc) Vechain is enterprise only. It won't overtake it in market cap but will be 10B+ easily in the future. You China Hustle lemmings are more brainwashed than your average plebbit sub.

[Anonymous No.10277693]

>>10277359
isn't singapore part of china? dont know much about gooks

[Anonymous No.10277728]

>>10277682

>enterprise solutions
>thinking "enterprises" are going to trust a chinkcoin run on PoA with secret node operators
>thinking enterprises are going to need to buy VTHO from token holders
>thinking revenue is going to be anything but peanuts

[Anonymous No.10277760]

>>10277393
Obviously it doesn't. But if they do even 1 billion revenue at some point in the future, even if it's 5 years from now, a lot of people will be retired off this.

[Anonymous No.10277833]

>>10277682

> Takes 5-10 years for enterprise adoption

> Not a SINGLE Chinese IT company has penetrated US and European markets

> Not a single Chinese IT product is used in enterprises across the US and Europe

> Enterprises solutions are bought based on years of trust and partnerships. Trust is not something that comes to mind when enterprises think of China who have been scamming them in production quality, prices and intellectual property theft over the decades.

> Sad to say this because I hate their products but enterprises pick shitty IBM solutions based on their past relationship with them.

[Anonymous No.10277836]

>>10277728
Ok you've posted in here like 20 times now and supposedly don't own any. This means you either:
1) bought the top and lost your ass so now you're salty
2) are trying to push the price down so you can accumulate
3) are such a fucking loser you spend all day fudding a coin you have no stake in using old copypasta and worthless opinions about what the staking returns "might be"
Which is it, pal?

[Anonymous No.10277958]

>>10277728
> Thinking CHINESE enterprises aren't going to use a Chinese coin.
> Thinking being limited to China, which is the source of the overwhelming majority of counterfeit goods, is somehow a bad thing for a project seeking to validate supply chains.

[Anonymous No.10277996]

Jim Breyer
Tim Draper
DNVGL
PWC
Renault
BMW
DB Schenker
Kuene and Nagel
Bright Foods (2nd biggest food distributor in China)
China Unicom
China Tobacco
Dozens more I'm too lazy too type, as well as more undisclosed partnerships and rumors swirling around some very well known shipping, insurance and financial companies.

[Anonymous No.10278028]

why would Vechain need to upload such an image if they didn't want to hype themselves?

[Anonymous No.10278104]

>>10277996
B-b-but bizfags say all those are fake. What do? Should i buy chainlink instead?

[Anonymous No.10278203]

>>10277836

>can't respond to legit criticisms
>try ad hominem attacks

Straight out of the vechain playbook Wong. Well done.

[Anonymous No.10278371]

Never buy any Chinese coins. I am involved with the “Chinese blockchain industry” Kek. And literally 1 in a thousand projects that come out of Asia are legit. Most of these “blockchain projects are run by sneaky Chinese boomer faggots who openly (semi openly, casually talk amongst themselves) say they are out to scam laowai. It’s revolting. They all walk around in shiny suits and stuff and don’t know or care about cryptocurrency at all. Fucking sickening.

[Anonymous No.10278396]

VEN-BROS UNITE

[Anonymous No.10278560]

>>10278371
>literally 1 in a thousand projects that come out of Asia are legit
This is true of crypto in general

[Anonymous No.10278586]

why do you people try to argue with FUDsters? if they're legit, let them suicide in a few years. if they're just fucking around, who cares. won't change anything.

[Anonymous No.10278602]

>Vechain about to be butt blasted by Omisegoyim

36 million away and closing

[Anonymous No.10278621]

>>10278203
None of your criticism are legit though. You're some random guy spouting your own opinion despite mountains of evidence proving you wrong. There are literally dozens of confirmed partners/customers/VC involvement and your response is "muh chink scam" or "onboarding customers takes too long" there is no reason to respond to this because it's just you making shit up

[Anonymous No.10278796]

>>10278621

>literally dozens

Haha

>can't even prove who's running a node
>reads crytpic tweets from planted "insider" who assures vechain will rule the world

[Anonymous No.10278803]

>>10278796
stay poor

[Anonymous No.10278816]

The problem with vechain is no matter how much the scum promotes it, common sense prevails

It's simply not a good idea

[Anonymous No.10278843]

>>10278803

>stay poor
>bought vechain at 28 cents
>dumped at $4 before mainnet
>now it's less than $2
>poor

Nigga I simply dumping everything into XLM. A real coin with real demand. Fucking chink loser kys

[Anonymous No.10278878]

>>10278843

>XLM
>real world demand

lmao. you think millennial's are going to fuck around with sending each other Stellar when shit like Venmo exists? nice try pajeet, but there will be no real world adoption

[Anonymous No.10278911]

>>10278560
It’s much much much worse here

[4chan Moderator No.10278913]

>>10278816
Well done Rakesh, your endless hours of FUD posting have not gone unnoticed. Rancid curry for you and your 13 children!

[Anonymous No.10278919]

>>10274162

2 CHINKS AND 1 JEW

LAUGHING THEIR WAY TO THE BANK

LOL

[Anonymous No.10278924]

>>10278878
>pajeet

Yeah buttblasted chink calling everyone else “pajeet”

Checks out

[Anonymous No.10278931]

>anti-fud
stop shilling this chink scam pajeets

[Anonymous No.10278932]

>>10278816
Show me where VeChain hurt you

[Anonymous No.10278934]

>>10278913
>>10278924
Another one. Is “pajeet” up on the whiteboard at vechain shill HQ?

[Anonymous No.10278997]

>>10278843
>real demand
These companies are confirmed using Vechain:
>DNVGL
>PWC
>Renault
>BitOcean
>Fanghuwang
>BMW
>DB Schenker
>Kuene and Nagel
>Bright Foods
>China Unicom
>China Tobacco
Who's using XLM?

[Anonymous No.10279018]

>>10274162

Worst Chink scamcoin in existence right now.

They're even using cuck-boy comic book lore nomenclature to appeal to the Plebbit retards.

[Anonymous No.10279032]

>>10278934
> Fudster calls shiller "chink".
> Shiller calls fudster "pajeet".

Pot meet kettle

[Anonymous No.10279037]

>>10278997
None of those companies are “using vechain” you dribbling dimwit

[Anonymous No.10279058]

>>10279032
Yeah but you ARE actually a bunch of scamming chinks. Calling people who point that out “pajeets” is just a desperate failed deflection away from the fact that you’re a bunch of scamming lying chinese fucks

[Anonymous No.10279059]

>>10274162

PROVEN CHINK SCAM

END OF DISCUSSION

[Anonymous No.10279061]

>>10279037
This is DNV GL’s website, not VeChain’s:
https://www.dnvgl.com/news/dnv-gl-launches-my-story-the-blockchain-based-solution-to-tell-the-product-s-full-story-113549

And that’s literally the CEO of DNV GL Business Assurance in the first post’s photo holding the hammer with Sunny.

[Anonymous No.10279067]

>>10277005

This. Screenshotting this for future use against Chink scam spam.

[Anonymous No.10279068]

>>10279058
someone bought the top lol

[Anonymous No.10279083]

>>10279061
Why do I care about what words a pair of colluding Chinese boomers decided to put on a website? That DNVgl guy probably invested a buttload of money in Vechain and is trying to pump the price. I hope they all lose their money.

[Anonymous No.10279095]

>>10279037
Agreed. Hardly anybody is using any crypto right now, and so the bubble popped. But these companies have at least signalled intent to use vechain. Anybody expecting rapid adoption is indeed a "dribbling dimwit" as you so eloquently put it.

[Anonymous No.10279104]

>>10279068
I’ve never touched a chinese scamcoin because, as I mentioned further up in the thread, I work in the “chinese blockchain industry” and I have a front row seat at seeing how they operate.

[Anonymous No.10279115]

>>10279104
yeah man i work in the chinese blockchain industry too lol

[Anonymous No.10279116]

>>10279095
People use ethereum all the time. Nobody uses vechain because it’s fucking useless chinese bollocks.

[Anonymous No.10279127]

>>10279115
It wouldn’t surprise me.

[Anonymous No.10279154]

>>10279116
> Argues that nobody is using a crypto which is still in the process of launching its mainnet.

Dealing with a real intellect here...

[Anonymous No.10279157]

do not support chinese business

[Anonymous No.10279165]

>>10274162

why the fuck do Venfags have a safespace thread?

[Anonymous No.10279170]

>>10279154
So it’s vapourware. Thanks for admitting the truth

[Anonymous No.10279267]

Chinese Billionaire who funded a several Chinese Blockchain projects:

> The founder of blockchain should be least an instant online celebrity, fans-flow is the core competition, the rest of the factors are all bullshit. As long as they believed in you, there will be a common consensus and what you need to do is just continue cheating them

You're pretty much donating money to these Chinese cryptos who cash out and continue to bleed the market. On top of that, Chinese companies even in regulated markets are known for unethical practices and cheating. Even if VeChain were to have some minimal revenue, they would undercut VET holders and supply that retarded gas token at steep discounts.

The delusion holding this garbage and defending them when Chinese themselves say their cryptos are all scams.

[Anonymous No.10279275]

>>10279083
>Chinese boomers

[Anonymous No.10279315]

>>10279275
>paid white monkey

[Anonymous No.10279316]

>>10279170
vaporware implies non-existence

I have my VET and it's already trading on some exchanges

but
>muh vaporware

[Anonymous No.10279335]

>>10279316
>it’s being traded on exchanges so it must be a real thing not a scam

Pathetic chink shill

[Anonymous No.10279360]

>>10279335
>13 posts
lul ok anon

[Anonymous No.10279390]

>>10279315
It’s the other way around. They bought a minority stake in VeChain. DNV GL is also confirmed as one of the 101 authority nodes.

[Anonymous No.10279428]

>>10279315
"DNV GL has been in the business of building trust for more than 150 years and blockchain is the latest way we are using technology to further strengthen this position," said Remi Eriksen, Group CEO & President of DNV GL. "This investment in VeChain is part of our multi-tiered approach of using digital solutions to improve quality, efficiency and transparency in our targeted markets."

How and why would a company founded in 1864 that makes a shitload of money every year get paid off to support a scam and risk their reputation? Isn’t the most likely explanation that they’re legitimately invested in this?

[Anonymous No.10279472]

>>10279275
why are you still replying to this troll? no matter facts, proof, evidence you provide he's just going to say "fake" "chink scam" etc. he's like those liberal cucks that go straight to the racism/sexism card every time they get owned in a debate. like its a get out of jail free card for their retardation.

[Anonymous No.10279478]

>>10279315
And that’s the CEO of DNV GL I quoted, based in Norway. It’s not some unrelated subsidiary in China like that movie The China Hustle claims companies hook up with to scam Westerners.

[Anonymous No.10279518]

>>10279275

Look at those faces.

They exude trust and transparency. An Armenian Jew and Chink, what more could you ask for?

These absolute units will make us NEETs rich.

[Anonymous No.10279531]

>>10278997

>tfw you can't respond so you just start repeating partnerships that don't exist

[Anonymous No.10279695]

>>10279390
Yeah they bought the VC slice of vechain. Hoping to profit from the deluded bagholders. I know because the company I work for sets these horrible corrupt deals up. That’s why I’m up at 4am dreading starting the working week.

If you buy vechain you are perpetuating shitty scam companies like the one I work for. Please do not buy chinese scams so the company I work for goes bust and I can get a proper job

>>10279478
I don’t fucking care.

[Anonymous No.10279920]

>look at our partnerships!
>posts link to EEA
>that's just "academic research"
>shows IBM is completely integrating XLM into all their blockchain systems
>no one's using XLM!
>no proof anyone is using vechain for anything
>most adopted crypto!
>mfw

[Anonymous No.10280146]

>>10279920
I love XLM and I have a lot in my portfolio but all of that is a ridiculous exaggeration. I need to see the source that IBM is integrating XLM into every aspect of Hyperledger Fabric.

[Anonymous No.10280152]

The other hilarious thing to me is this idea that Vechain is a "top 5 crypto".

The top altcoins are thoroughly scrutinized. The market felt vechain was not worthy and it's about to slide out of the top 20.

They say "so undervalued". lol if anything it's fucking overvalued.

[Anonymous No.10280182]

>>10280152
EOS is in the top 5. TRX is #11. Even if all that VeChain has are pilot projects that still means it’s a project with more live usecases than either of those platforms.

[Anonymous No.10280200]

I have a shit ton of this that i bought @ $.22 on a whim after watching a Ted Talk , go science. Can't wait for this bull run.

[Anonymous No.10280215]

>>10274566
100 BTC for 6000 VEN lmaoo

[Anonymous No.10280236]

You know that during the internet boom "respected investors", big companies and billionaires alike all invested in crap like pets.com, right? That's how Mark Cuban got rich, for example. The crap he sold to Yahoo cost them billions and nobody needed/wanted it in the end.
I think VEN bamboozled some tech illiterates at DNV, and that's all.
Trust doesn't magically happen by putting things on a blockchain. Chinese will find ways to game that, too. Trust is built through years of reputation. No amount of blockchain builds reputation. I agree that the idea is stupid.

[Anonymous No.10280334]

>>10280236
“It’s China” isn’t an intelligent critique. I believe in reputable century-old firms built on trust like DNV GL more than a bunch of racist NEETs. VeChain is a newcomer and if they were alone I wouldn’t invest in it, but they have too many deals for me not to devote a portion of my portfolio to it. So much of blockchain tech is unproven with little to no real world adoption. I’m invested in tech and developers I believe in (ETH, XLM), but I feel like it would be a tremendous oversight not to invest in a blockchain solution that has so many partnerships. There’s no guarantee it will all come to fruition but everything in this game is a gamble, it seems like a no-brainer not to take a risk with this one.

[Anonymous No.10280445]

>>10280334
China has a huge reputation (for the most part desrved) for scammy business practices. The China Hustle, even though it has become a meme, literally documents this behaviour. Leaks from Chinese crypto big wigs document this behaviour.
VeChain aims to solve a big chunk of these kind of trust issues. My point is that blockchain won't solve these issues. Government allowing foreign investors to sue scammers would be 1000 times more effective (if they could enforce, which is another question).

[Anonymous No.10280510]

>>10280334
>everything in this game is a gamble
One could argue VeChain is one of the least shittiest coins, but it’s still shitty.

[Anonymous No.10280559]

What is Vechain?

[Anonymous No.10280583]

>>10280559
Who knows, but its CEO thinks $4.88 is a buying opportunity (see pic above), so grab some for cheap before they’re sold out!

[Anonymous No.10280616]

>>10280510
>>10280583
Is it only bad when a Chinese guy does it?

[Anonymous No.10280631]

>>10280616
Redditor transplants only care about Musk.

[Anonymous No.10280686]

>>10280616
Nice try. Point is anyone predicting the price for a crypto should automatically be looked down upon and ignored.

[Anonymous No.10280741]

>>10280182

>shitcoins are in the top 20 though

That says more about Vechain than it does about them. Your coin isn't even a good scam. That's how bad it is.

If vechain loyalists had a lick of sense, they'd admit their coin has flaws. They don't though. That's the dead give away.

[Anonymous No.10280769]

>>10280741
>loyalists
>lick of sense
Pretty sure anyone still sincerely hodling crypto right now is delusional beyond the point of return. To them it’s a religious crusade.

[Anonymous No.10280808]

>>10280741
I don't like VeChain's X-Node concept, or how they're handling the token swap. I don't like how they talk about the price, though I don't think it's the end of the world, and I don't like how they have an obviously paid insider shiller, CCK.

I don't think there are any red flags with the tech itself or their partnerships, but we'll find out in the next six months if they actually deliver as they move their current partners off the private chains on to the public one. If they're just tiny pilot projects it'll be nothing and the price should appropriately tank, but there's really no telling one way or the other right now.

What don't you like about XLM?

[Anonymous No.10280862]

>>10280808

There is a 100% probability that vechain's partnerships are pilots and nothing more. The tax liability, cacophonous regulation, uncertainty and sketchiness makes dumping your systems for vechain excessively risky.

XLM is a bit timid. They don't have the potential as ETH and IOTA. But it's ready now. It's not moving fast enough for something that's ready now.

[Anonymous No.10280895]

>>10280808
>If they're just tiny pilot projects it'll be nothing and the price should appropriately tank, but there's really no telling one way or the other right now.
You do realize that it WILL be pilot projects, but you’ll just convince yourself to hodl long term because you believe in their potential to bring in billions in revenue. Keep moving the goalpost.

[Anonymous No.10280988]

>>10280895
It's not the bulk of my portfolio. I'm holding long term and will invest in other supply chain tokens if they make similar strides. There's a chance they've exaggerated their claims, it'd be foolish to be so blindly devoted that you can't imagine the possibility, but there are too many reasons to take the risk and invest, and I don't think it's a bad idea to follow the money with someone of someone like Jim Breyer.

[Anonymous No.10280989]

It's funny to me that Venfags number on justification for holding VEN is DNV GL. DNV GL is a shill partner, but the CEO himself has said that they aren't using Vechain...they are "exploring all options."

Has it never occurred to you that this dude was china hustled too? I mean, notice how his tone and enthusiasm changed after the rebrand event. They partnered with Vechain before the platform even existed. They were schmoozed by promises, just like you were....only they signed contracts and have a personal stake in the for profit branch now, so it's in their interest to shill it.
If he believed in this project, he'd use it for his own company...but for some reason he doesn't....really makes you think...

[Anonymous No.10281019]

>>10280989
VeChain's rebranding event was February 26th. DNV GL posted this on March 9th:
https://twitter.com/DNVGL/status/972115367375069184

[Anonymous No.10281028]

>>10277005
Nice. It’s interesting seeing how hodlers value VeChain based on the number of partnerships because they’re incapable of doing any valuation or math. The math clearly shows that usage and revenue would have to be out of the park in order to support current price. The counter argument is that 90% of price is derived from speculation, which is a poor basis for investing.

[Anonymous No.10281048]

>>10281019
He's also said in interviews since the rebrand that he isn't planning on using the Vechain platform.

[Anonymous No.10281077]

>>10281048
You have no idea what you're talking about. They were actively promoting Vechain and the MyStory application at European Seed and Chips conference.

[Anonymous No.10281085]

There are relatively few companies out there that stand to benefit from using blockchain at this time. Those that are interested will have a lot of work ahead of them in transitioning their current systems. Just because VeChain released an eth clone blockchain....doesn't mean it's ready for enterprise use.

[Anonymous No.10281092]

>>10281048
Source? I can provide any number of videos or quotes where they state that they are using it. I didn't say exclusively, I said using it.

[Anonymous No.10281117]

>>10280988
You have no idea how much Jim bought at what price. Hell he might’ve gotten an authority node for free just to sell his endorsement. Keep in mind he also has equity that none of us have. Plus, price can crash while the business still functions, so his reputation would remain intact.

[Anonymous No.10281128]

>>10281048
And this was posted May 15th, three months after rebrand. I don't think you know what you're talking about.

https://www.dnvgl.com/news/dnv-gl-buys-stake-in-leading-public-blockchain-service-provider-vechain-as-it-strengthens-commitment-to-raising-trust-and-transparency-through-digital-solutions-119749

Luca Crisciotti, CEO of DNV GL – Business Assurance, says, "VeChain has helped us realise our digital assurance ambitions through the launch of new revolutionary assurance products in the market. The acquisition of a stake in VeChain is a natural progression of our relationship and the investment will allow us to transform our existing business model and bring Digital Assurance to a wider audience, including consumers."

[Anonymous No.10281135]

>>10281048
Dude was wowed by the technology and hitched himself to VeChain too early. His mistake. They probably would have done better to just implement their own solutions...certainly would have been better for them to go with IBM. Vechain is going to (has been) destroying their reputation. It's obvious to anyone over 12 who's seen their marketing strategy and website. It's scammy hype.

[Anonymous No.10281154]

Imagine the CEO of DNV GL pitching Vechain to business partners....he gonna want to show them the website??

>imagine a world where everything you touch generates power!!!!

[Anonymous No.10281167]

They're all making money right now....not by selling to businesses...buy by selling to you

[Anonymous No.10281186]

>>10281135
>>10281154
>>10281167
I love how you ignore all our cogent arguments against your bullshit. Is that you, Chip?

[Anonymous No.10281193]

>>10281154
Haha it’s quite a funny contradiction to try conning on Redditors on one hand and to get business deals on the other.

[Anonymous No.10281228]

>>10281117
This photo is Jim Breyer literally standing right next to China's President. He's worth 3 billion dollars, I don't think his partnership can be bought by VeChain.

https://medium.com/@jimbreyer/announcing-our-vechain-advisory-role-5e37b7722978
>I am proud to announce that as of today, Breyer Capital has agreed to support VeChain through an official advisory role.
>Sunny Lu has a strong vision to set a new industry standard for blockchain projects. I agree with VeChain’s hypothesis that enterprises will accelerate the adoption and development of blockchain technology.
>I am most interested in VeChain’s top-percentile crypto team. Additionally, I’ve found VeChain’s enterprise partnerships and deep relationships with PwC and DNV GL to be compelling.
>I’m here to learn with and support VeChain as they press on towards their main net release and continue to develop valuable partnerships. I look forward to working with a coalition of top-tier individuals within the VeChain ecosystem and am excited to have VeChain as part of Breyer Capital’s ecosystem.
>This collaboration, like my early investments in Circle and Ethereum, can be thought of as another milestone on Breyer Capital’s broader blockchain/cryptocurrency journey.

https://www.quora.com/Which-cryptocurrency-should-I-invest-in-in-2018-Why/answer/Jim-Breyer
> Just as China is ahead of the US in mobile payments and is investing heavily in artificial intelligence research, Chinese companies are not ignoring the immense potential of Blockchain technology.
>One of the smaller companies with tokens that I am watching closely in 2018 is Vechain.
>The Chinese blockchain industry, from small companies with tokens to major enterprises, is flourishing and should not be ignored. I took a bold bet on China over a decade ago and remain as convinced as ever that Chinese innovation will resume at a rapid and competitive pace.

[Anonymous No.10281233]

Not chip, but share his opinions on VeChain.
I'd like to hear a cogent argument defending this... https://cdn.vechain.com/org/VeChainNew.mp4

Or CCK for that matter. You can't separate the company from their marketing strategy and pretend like they are a serious business. It's scammy as shit, designed only to extract money from the crypto moon kids, not to sell their actual product to businesses.

[Anonymous No.10281275]

>>10281233
China is cringe as shit and has tacky kitsch taste. This is Jack Ma dressed up like Michael Jackson. He's worth $40 billion and runs Alibaba Group, the world's largest retailer. VeChain's shit website and god-awful aesthetic means nothing.

[Anonymous No.10281276]

Really...you think the company who delivers practical blockchain technology to the world would make a video like that? In what world are they even operating?

[Anonymous No.10281291]

>>10281275
Keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous No.10281297]

>>10281233
It's not a terrible video. Just because it makes you cringe doesn't make it a scam. Probably a disconnect between cultures to be honest.

CCK is funny. Your argument is bad because you are asking me to prove a negative. I personally don't think he works directly for the Dev team but you don't have any proof either way.

[Anonymous No.10281318]

>>10281275
The whole point of Vecahin is that they have massive institutional partners..... why are they producing videos aimed at redditors if that's the case?

[Anonymous No.10281340]

>>10281228
You missed my point. I’m not saying Jim sold his reputation and partook in a scam. I’m saying his definition of success in investing in VeChain may be different from yours. For example, maybe a price above $2 is considered success to him but not to you.

[Anonymous No.10281356]

>>10281297

Like I said....it's easy for anyone over 12 to see it for what it is. Someday you'll understand. Hope you didn't blow all your allowance on this.

[Anonymous No.10281389]

>>10281318
Something about “value flow” that Sunny briefly mentioned in a 2017 presentation. Let’s be honest right now it’s mostly for crowdfunding.

[Anonymous No.10281393]

>>10281356
You keep calling me 12 but you are not able to form a coherent argument. Good luck. If you are doing all this for free I feel bad for you.

[Anonymous No.10281467]

>>10281340
That's true, but he did recommend VeChain as an investment to other people on April 4th in that Quora link. VeChain's price on April 4th was about $2.75.

[Anonymous No.10281494]

ITT FoxyIT's impotent rage boner for vechain and other retards wasting life on shitposting vechain. go watch china hustle again retards you will stay poor

[Anonymous No.10281510]

>>10281340
keep moving those goalposts

[Anonymous No.10281560]

>>10280989
>>10281048
prove this. show me where he actually said they won't be using vechain and I'll sell right now. if not, you're just another discord pajeet faggot

[Anonymous No.10281591]

>>10281467
Pretty sure it was published on Dec 2017 then updated on Apr 2018. I don’t know what the update was but guess it’s to add more caveats. Anyways I’m not sure how much more clear he’s able to make his point that he’s not recommending VET coin as an investment in any way. To be blunt, based on our convo I think you’re just another delusional brainlet who should best stay away from crypto.

[Anonymous No.10281593]

>>10281494

>tfw vechain shills trying to call out Reddit usernames on /biz/

The absolute state of vechain in July 2018.

God their pathetic. I remember when ya'll hot butt blasted when it was proven VTHO wasn't gonna be worth dick

>it's a dividend!
>0.5% returns are fine!

[Anonymous No.10281608]

>>10281340

>calling people you don't know but their first name

[Anonymous No.10281621]

>>10281608
I don’t care

[Anonymous No.10281622]

>>10281560
The CEO has said as much in interviews before. They don't have an exclusive blockchain partnership with Vechain and don't plan to.
They are working with other providers as internally...
https://www2.deloitte.com/ie/en/pages/about-deloitte/articles/Deloitte_DNV_GL_first_blockchain_solution_certification_industry.html

You guys are making too much of Vechains partnerships. It's been shown many times that they exaggerate the nature of their partnership. You're expecting big things just because big names have given them a shout out. All this happening at a time when we have companies renaming themselves like "Long Island Blockchain Tea" to cash in on the hype. Companies want to boosts their own value and jump on the hype train...doesn't mean anything of substance will come of it. It's just what's trending right now...

[Anonymous No.10281647]

>>10281622
https://www.dnvgl.com/news/dnv-gl-and-deloitte-first-to-leverage-blockchain-technology-to-advance-the-certification-industry-101685

This was originally posted in September 2017. VeChain’s rebranding event with DNV GL on stage was in Februarh 2018.

And no one said it’s an exclusive arrangement.

[Anonymous No.10281652]

>>10281560
You gonna sell now? DNV GL is working with Deloitte to use private blockchains for their own data.

[Anonymous No.10281669]

>>10281652
Why would he sell? He said he’d sell if DNV GL said they won’t be using VeChain. You linked to them saying they’re using another blockchain solution six months before they put out numerous press releases on their work with VeChain.

[Anonymous No.10281672]

>>10281622
>You guys are making too much of Vechains partnerships.
It’s what happens when you have retailers getting in on tech “investments.” Seeing them count VeChain’s partnerships is like seeing a baby count his teeth.

[Anonymous No.10281687]

>>10281672
Meant retail “investors”

[Anonymous No.10281742]

>>10281652
They don't have an exclusive blockchain partnership = they aren't using Vechain? Come on now, you're obviously retarded but even you know that doesn't make sense. No multi-billion dollar organization signs an exclusive agreement for ANYTHING.

[Anonymous No.10281748]

>tfw vechain's fans ignore constant legit warnings their coin is a scam and praise a shill Twitter account that tweets cryptic bullshit

[Anonymous No.10281802]

>>10281622
I'm not expecting all these companies to be doing millions of transactions right out of the gate. I don't think anyone is. But you china hustle fags act like we're supposed to completely ignore dozens of huge companies publicly announcing they are interested in the platform. I'm in enterprise sales for an emerging tech company and 95% of the companies we work with make us sign an NDA. That's standard in enterprise.

[Anonymous No.10281830]

>>10281748
Smart money left in early 2018. Crypto will probably stay dead for years until scaling gets solved.

[Anonymous No.10281864]

>>10281802
You don’t know tech. You don’t know math. You don’t know how to value a company or stock. You don’t know the details of VeChain’s partnerships. So why are you so confident? Because you’re a D E L U S I O N A L brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10281901]

>53 transactions

[Anonymous No.10281914]

>>10281864
I have an engineering degree and work for a tech company. Who are you again? Some anonymous guy on the internet making claims you can't back up?

[Anonymous No.10281922]

I think the shabby way that Vechain have handled this token swap has been nothing short of appalling. Goalposts changing every day, One minute you need your tokens locked up to secure your xnode and the next day you can sell them all and buy back later. It is disgraceful. Timetables changing, roadmap changing every five minutes. Zero clarification or certainty. Market manipulators are having a field day at great cost to us early adopters

[Anonymous No.10281947]

>>10281389
but anon they already had their ICO..... pumping the token price doesn't net them more money unless they're planning on dumping the short term..... and they didn't do that, right?

[Anonymous No.10282042]

>>10281914
>I have an engineering degree
Born a brainlet, will remain as one.

>>10281947
Imagine signing a contract with them
>Can we announce our pilot as a partnership so that Redditors will donate more dollars? We’ll give you free VET.
So weird

[Anonymous No.10282085]

https://twitter.com/OceanexOfficial/status/1018559457054167040

They don't even know how to multiply by 100...

[Anonymous No.10282253]

>>10282042
All companies offer incentives to their best customers in exchange for comarketing opportunities. Every company I've worked for does this. As someone who is so smart and knows so much about business and tech, how do you not know this? Are you, by chance, a fat neet talking shit behind a computer screen?

[Anonymous No.10282280]

>>10281914
>I have an engineering degree and work for a tech company

That means jack shit in this space, buster. The fact that you think those credentials matter, combined with being convinced that VeChain isn't a scam solidifies that you're a clueless normie.

https://youtu.be/YwEJSErZON8
You think any enterprise adoption will come from THIS? You deserve to get scammed. Stupid faggot.

[Anonymous No.10282320]

How come every single piece of Vechain FUD are straight out disinfo and lies, hell you guys are calling Luca Crisciotti, an Italian man an american jew just to try to get a point across, get your shit together there is actually plenty of legit material to fud

[Anonymous No.10282322]

vechain is scammy AF. get out while you can ;)

[Anonymous No.10282335]

Of all the things I hate about vechain, their cringey "Thor power feel the god hammer of the blockchain" faggotry is an absolute embarrassment.

[Anonymous No.10282495]

>>10282253
I'm no NEET, and don't forget you're a delusional brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10282512]

>>10282253
>knows so much about business and tech
I don't know so much. I know the basics and have enough common sense to recognize something sketchy when I see it.

[Anonymous No.10282612]

A lot of people on biz have low iq, know next to nothing about how business/econ works, little understandings of how reputations in the business means anything for people like Jim Breyer. VechainThor is the only platform with actual customers. Some of you are missing the opportunity of your lifetime. Real usages are winning and not all the bs on white papers claiming millions tps. VechainThor is the one....

[Anonymous No.10282640]

>>10281922
nothing changed you're just retarded sorry

[Anonymous No.10282676]

>>10282612
It's called empty partnerships, used as fuel to pump a coin so insiders can sell. Going to be a lot of Vechain bagholders soon. LOL

[Anonymous No.10282681]

>>10282612
Hey look, another delusional brainlet

[Anonymous No.10282687]

>>10281028
show us the math then big boi

[Anonymous No.10282705]

>>10280989
they've already published details of a live working product with vechain's consortium network
try again

[Anonymous No.10282727]

>>10280862
>100% probability
are_you_a_wizard.jpg

[Anonymous No.10282766]

>>10281830
This. I hold VEN and even I know this is the case. Crypto will be dead for years.

[Anonymous No.10282853]

>>10282687
Plenty of attempts were made on Reddit. I like this one more than others: https://www.reddit.com/r/Vechain/comments/882x7b/a_constructive_fundamental_take_on_vechaintoken/

If you've done the math, you'd know it all comes down to revenue. The $20B figure in both development paper and wp is probably the most quoted one by VeChain fans AKA Venfags. It's pretty ambiguous though whether that number is actually revenue or some marketing number. I remember my calculation that I've long deleted was $1B in gets you around $6? Anyways it's funny and stupid to be talking about revenues in the billions at this stage.

[Anonymous No.10282909]

>>10282853
of course you conveniently skipped over the most accurate one for 5 days go
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vechain/comments/8xv015/here_you_go_a_financial_model_to_estimate_your/

if you can't understand it, don't worry.

[Anonymous No.10282912]

There’s literally no real fud to this coin it’s laughable watching people try, ive yet to see anything substantial

[Anonymous No.10282954]

>>10282909

This analysis is fucking trash. Numerous people pointed out why.

>tfw nodes dump supply bringing prices down
>no adoption with steep price to use blockchain
>it's not a fucking dividend

Demand and revenue are all that matters. You can make up numbers all you want, but companies are not going to spend billions on vechain.

[Anonymous No.10282955]

>>10274162
Is that a giant black dildo they are holding up in the air? Is that what they use to fuck their "investors"?

[Anonymous No.10282979]

>>10282909
So now we're ignoring revenue and guessing on transactions? I'll read it later, but it seems like Acrimony01 as already raised what seems to be a recurring issue: "The idea that endless speculators will drive up the price of VET for no reason is fallacious and is what exactly led it to being overvalued in the first place."

[Anonymous No.10282989]

>>10282954
numerous people pointed out why each of which were then factored into it in the edits.

china tobacco alone will spend billions to save billions more in counterfeit. look up how much money is lost globally on an annual basis in supply chains. i'll wager you won't.

keep trying tho. i've been over every shitty fud attempt ever made until it devolves into ad hominem because it's transparent. i can go all day.

[Anonymous No.10282996]

>>10282909
>the most accurate one
Careful, you're starting to sound like a delusional brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10283003]

>>10282979
basic economics anon
more demand for thor, vet becomes more valuable.

[Anonymous No.10283014]

>>10282996
it's accurate because of this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vechain/comments/8y6guu/as_promised_heres_the_financial_model_to/

again - if you can't understand any of it i wouldn't worry.

[Anonymous No.10283072]

>>10283014
>50 real TPS in year 0
>$0.03/T
Source? Lmfao

[Anonymous No.10283127]

>>10283014
So they're going to make shit ton of money but can't be bothered to hire proper community moderators to replace CREAM and his red army faggots/scammers? Fucking kek anon

[Anonymous No.10283153]

Lol at obese armchair crypto experts here shitting on one of maybe literally 5 coins with any real enterprise adoption. Just kill yourselves.

[Anonymous No.10283159]

>>10283014
>$0.022 as "soft" assumption
I regret clicking on your stupid link.

[Anonymous No.10283209]

>>10283072
>>10283159
keep going anon
i don't even have to make you look the retard anymore, you're pretty much gift wrapping lurkers their laughs right now lul

[Anonymous No.10283268]

>>10283209
>retard
Typical of hodlers to attack personally rather than respond to the issue.

>lurkers
You realize this thread along with biz and the rest of crypto is dead right? Your delusion is showing.

[Anonymous No.10283293]

>>10283153

>Real enterprise adoption

>Not adopted by any enterprise

Why aren't you on any psychoactives?

[Anonymous No.10283297]

>>10283268
i predicted you wouldn't understand where the figures came from and i was right. everything is already out there to make accurate enough models

you must be new here

[Anonymous No.10283318]

>>10283297
>i predicted you wouldn't understand where the figures came
Isn't it obvious that I don't follow every VeChain announcement? Again, you got sources for 50 REAL TPS 24/7/365, or $0.03/T? If you don't answer I'll have to take that as you pulling it out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.10283356]

>>10283293
I would wager any amount of money that you’re more medicated than 99% of everyone because nobody sober can possibly be this dumb

[Anonymous No.10283368]

>>10282989

Just because billions are lost doesn't mean vechain is the only solution, nor does it work if it makes it prohibtively expensive. lol it's called marginal cost brainlet.

"Hey guys, let's spend $5000 on a carton of cigs to make it counterfeit proof!"

Are you actually dumb enough to think vechain would corner thr supply chain market with no resistance? This isn't a fucking trade secret. Almost all vechain's tech is fucking borrowed code.

I spent years in supply chains. Tons of shit is tested and not adopted. It's because most of the time it doesn't perform much better and it's too expensive. Haha you actually think vechain makes shit counterfeit proof?

[Anonymous No.10283393]

>>10283368
>I spent years in supply chains.
Nice. Honest question: is blockchain for supply chain a meme?

>Tons of shit is tested and not adopted. It's because most of the time it doesn't perform much better and it's too expensive.
Sounds like it?

[Anonymous No.10283400]

>>10283368
you have a serious mental problem. let it go man. just buy some rope and take away your pain.

[Anonymous No.10283402]

sup fags

[Anonymous No.10283427]

>>10283402
some high level faggotry being posted by him :It’s actually quite easy... you gotta believe in taking care of yourself, and a balanced diet and a rigorous exercise routine. In the morning, if your face is a little puffy, you’ll have to put on an ice pack while doing your stomach crunches. After a while you’ll be able to do a thousand. After you remove the ice pack, use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower, use a water activated gel cleanser. Then a honey almond body scrub. And on the face, an exfoliating gel scrub. Then apply an herb mint facial mask, and leave it on for 10 minutes while you prepare the rest of your routine. Always use an aftershave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion. There should be an idea of who you are, some kind of abstraction, even though there is no real you. Only an entity, something illusory.

[Anonymous No.10283515]

>>10283427
you know, I actually hold a big fucking bag of Veshit. I just hate reddit fags

[Anonymous No.10283516]

>>10283427
Just read some of his posts, and they seem reasonable. Probably gets hate because Reddit is a positive vibe only circlejerk.

[Anonymous No.10283519]

>>10283393

For premium products and medicine, no. For fucking cigs and chicken yes

[Anonymous No.10283525]

>>10283515
>I actually hold a big fucking bag of Veshit.
Why?

[Anonymous No.10283531]

>>10283427

>all this text

Jesus that's some serious salt nigga

[Anonymous No.10283661]

>tfw new thread in why vechain sucks ass

[Anonymous No.10283720]

>>10283318
take it how you like it doesn't change a thing

>>10283368
anons on a mongolian flea hunting forum talking about how much they know from their illustrious career is just projection
i'm sure you, anon, know so much more than the guys at the top of DNVGL and the chinese government

[Anonymous No.10283754]

>>10283720
>take it how you like it doesn't change a thing
Lol for your sake I hope you know something that I don't (you don't though, just another delusional brainlet forgetting to take his meds), because all you've done is pull assumptions out of the ass without any consideration for reality.

[Anonymous No.10283914]

>>10278203
>>can't respond to legit criticisms
>>try ad hominem attacks
>>10277323
>dumbass
>>10277417
>lol remember when stupid faggots were calling it "the vlippening"?
>>10278602
>Vechain about to be butt blasted by Omisegoyim
>>10278816
>The problem with vechain is no matter how much the scum promotes it, common sense prevails
>>10278843
>Fucking chink loser kys
>>10281593
>God their pathetic. I remember when ya'll hot butt blasted when it was proven VTHO wasn't gonna be worth dick
>>10282335
>Of all the things I hate about vechain, their cringey "Thor power feel the god hammer of the blockchain" faggotry is an absolute embarrassment.
>>10283368
>Are you actually dumb enough to think vechain would corner thr supply chain market with no resistance
>>10283661
>tfw new thread in why vechain sucks ass

>>10278203
>>can't respond to legit criticisms
>>try ad hominem attacks

[Anonymous No.10283957]

>>10283914
You're arguments are shit. Why are you dismissing someone who actually spent years in supply chain? You need help.

[Anonymous No.10284013]

>>10277836
everybody bought at the top you fucking idiot, including you.

[Anonymous No.10285067]

Game Over, man. Game Over.

[Anonymous No.10285284]

>>10277298

See below you got exposed shill with 18 posts

>>10277313
Thanks fella

[Anonymous No.10285413]

>>10285067
loool.. just shows nobody uses vechain, yet another chinese scam. It's musical chairs now. last one out = vechain bagholders for life

[Anonymous No.10285447]

pleshe buy the coinsh

[Anonymous No.10285784]

>>10285413
nobody uses any crypto

[Anonymous No.10285909]

I would rather bought xrp lol. That shitcoins give me gain x100 time than this.

[Anonymous No.10286009]

>$1.70

Getting nervous, boys?

[Anonymous No.10286313]

>>10286009
I'll be honest, I put 50% of my live savings into this at about $3.5...it hurts. Will I ever break even?

[Anonymous No.10286474]

>>10286009
yes

[Anonymous No.10286501]

>>10286313

I did pretty much the same thing, but I sold at 2.30 right before main net launching month since it failed utterly to pump

I don't know what the fuck is going on, but I only have a couple hundred ven that I will hold for a few years in case they pull something crazy and I can get my initial investment back