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https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
>According to Bitpico, the number of all Bitcoin Cash network nodes running on Alibaba’s facilities is 49% (1/2 of 98%).
>Bitpico: "We are currently monitoring the IP addresses as they seem to be changing into separate network groups, possibly to fake decentralization."
>"98% of the shown nodes are sitting in the same server rack."

Which one of you deluded losers actually still holds BCC?

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>> No.10268692

>>10268650
thing is......BCH people don't actually care about this.

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>> No.10268726

>>10268650
Bitpico was also going to Attack the network with a 51% attack, but couldn’t.

Sometimes you have to consider the source and ignore the remark. This is a good example of one of those cases.

>> No.10268732

>>10268650
>bitpico
is this the same retard that tried to 51%?

>> No.10268739

>>10268650
>source: Bitcoin shill site

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I sold that shit back in December.

>> No.10268752

Lol, obsessed corecucks. Who the fuck even cares about nodes? It's not a secret that most BCH miners come from China.

>> No.10268754

>>10268714
>trademarked versus untrademarked

>> No.10268758

>>10268650

Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash Bcash

>> No.10268777

>>10268732
The same brainlet who thought that attacking network nodes without hash power would jeopardise the blockchain.

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>>10268752
"Lol who cares???!!?! ROFLMAO?!??!!"

cope harder, cuckie

>> No.10268854

>>10268832
t. SEETHING smallblocker cuck

>> No.10269143

>>10268752
>>10268754
real discussion: what is it about bitcoin cash that makes you think it will out bitcoin?

it has large blocks and colored coins, OPCodes and everything else core doesn't want. CSW just put out a paper on a bitcoin Oracle so, NChain owns Oracle technology like chainlink or they are just copy/paste. my money is on the latter.

>> No.10269301

>>10269143
Bitcoin Cash has the largest ecommerce company in the world supporting it. Bitcoin is supported by ??? just a group of companies that don't even make a blip in the world's economy. No power = imminent decline. Reality trumps ancap/libertarian fantasies.

>> No.10269668

>>10268747
Proof faggot

>> No.10269686

>>10268650
nice counter fud to this
https://ambcrypto.com/49-bitcoin-btc-lightning-network-is-occupied-one-node/

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>>10268650
delet

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>>10268650
instead of making sensational claims, have they described how anyone can confirm these things ourselves?

all the censorship, misinformation and propaganda launched at BCH doesn't exactly make me blindly trust anyone making wild claims about them

bestides, it's not like BTC isn't just as much centralized either

>> No.10270272

Why did satoshi create POW if nodes are so important?

>> No.10270430

>>10270073
you bcucks need to step up your meme games, they are getting old quick because of their shittyness.

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>> No.10270443

>>10269301
>largest ecommerce company in the world supporting it
what

>> No.10270517

>>10270443
Im pro-bch and even i dont know wtf he's talking about.

>> No.10270525

>>10270517
yikes

>> No.10270534

>>10270443
>>10270517
http://english.ckgsb.edu.cn/new/case-study-alibaba-the-worlds-largest-e-commerce-corporation-holds-70-of-chinas-online-market-defeating-ebay-and-amazon/

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>>10270430
says the guy posting the oldest and most stale meme of them all >>10268714

>> No.10270563

>>10268692
sadly true. natural selection at work I suppose.

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>>10270534
CTRL+F and the page doesn't contain "cash" or "bch"

???

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>>10270563
I'd care if the "hackers" were actually believable. I'm not trusting a bunch of screenshots blindly, describe how to do these tests ourselves and have a bunch of 3rd parties confirm that they aren't speaking out of their ass and then I'll pay attention to it.

>> No.10270596

>>10270568
OP's post
>49% of all Nodes Run on Alibaba's Facilities

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>>10269143
>real discussion: what is it about bitcoin cash that makes you think it will out bitcoin?

For me, it's all about adoption and real world usage. I've been in crypto since 2013 and I remember what the old culture was like, with pushes for adoption and real world usage all over the fucking place.

But ever since that one faggot redditor mispelled some shit, HODL has fucked the entire crypto economy. Now all anyone cares about is USD price rises. Not if I can use any crypto in my day to day life. And that is what will ultimately make or break crypto, real fucking world usage.

So when I investigate a crypto, that is a huge priority I look for. That culture of real world adoption and use. I dont really give two shits about "second layer" solutions or other crap like that. If a crypto doesn't have a big push for real world people using it, it will never matter in the long run anyway, so why give a fuck.

That said, certain communities do have this push within them still. I am invested in those. Bitcoin Cash has this in abundance, as well as support from some very big and old crypto players. Ethereum has this, probably by raw fucking necessity. Monero has this. And nano sort of has this. Right now I hold probably 75% of my crypto in XMR, 15% in ETH, and the rest in BCH and Nano.

I would never hold BTC the way it is now, it's entire culture is ruined and permeated with this moronic HODLGANG bullshit, as well as purposefully denigrating actual, real world useage. Seriously, not only do they not care, but the people and core fanbase behind Core seems to be the ONLY one in all of crypto to actually try to discourage real world use, laugh at it, and call it stupid.

I don't want to be anywhere near that shit. If that is how BTC wants to approach this, BCH hardly won;t have to do shit to eventually overtake them. That is just plain fucking suicidal.

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>>10270534
I wouldnt say alibaba supports bch per se, but after some googling it looks like percentage of bch nodes hosted with alibaba is actually down 5% from january. Op and bitpico BTFO.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7oeosy/why_is_bch_mining_so_centralized_on_the_alibaba/

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corecucks are so pathetic

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>>10270596
so some company hires servers from alibaba, which i think get their servers from amazon if i dont remember incorrectly. it doesn't mean alibaba supports bch...

>> No.10270979

>>10270614
hello friend. thank you for taking the time to meander with me. your writing style, your thoughts, they are very eloquently written. please allow me the discretion to retort.
>with pushes for adoption and real world usage all over the fucking place.
thanks to that, bitcoin is what it is today. and also, every other altcoin is where they are today thanks to the relentless push for cryptocurrency adoption. Again, thank you for your service.
> that one faggot redditor mispelled some shit, HODL has fucked the entire crypto economy.
I apologize, I am not the usual one grammar nazi. however, that "one faggot" was actually a lesbo and, instead of reddoplebian land it was that asshole Theynos's site bitcointalk.org (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0...... full on drunk lesbo all chapped about TAfags and her date being out and about all desperrado style at the local lesbo club.)
>a huge priority I look for. That culture of real world adoption
perhaps a look closer, friend. BCH market share has dropped 2% in the last two months... that from only 6% so... it's now only 4%. All while bitcoin gained 7-8%. to be at or around 43-4% market share.
> I dont really give two shits about "second layer" solutions
neither do I, the beauty of a soft fork is... SegWit is optional. Lightning is optional. I can communicate with my current software... with someone running bitcoin core version 9. A hard fork would result in exclusion which, with bitcoin being valued at one time close to $20,000, would result in people's not being able to access to their bitcoins. A hard fork is easy on an already forked chain.

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>>10270979
only reason why BTC is gaining anything is because most people still dont know there are two versions of bitcoin and because of the propaganda coming out from the BTC side.

all that's needed for a lot of people to wake up and realize that all BTC's problem are still there is for BTC's fees to skyrocket to 50 bucks again. nothing has changed since december, segwit adoption has slowed down and even if 100% were segwit txs they would just increase the number of tx/s by 70% at best.

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also a soft fork = non-optional. if you don't agree with segwit, tough luck. even if you dont upgrade you are stuck with the changes and now get blocks without input scrips.

hard forks = optional changes. soft forks = mandatory changes.

>> No.10271083

>>10270646
pic related: show yourself with 8 hot asian girls, with proof. pathetic faggot.

>> No.10271110

cashies are pathetic fags who bought a knockoff and act like it's real
their ideal world consists of datacenters maintaining the network and 100k+ EDA coins flowing around their network as they preach "satoshi's vision"
it's sad at this point, I hope 1 SHA-256 mining pools puts them out of their misery

>> No.10271124

>Non-mining nodes

>> No.10271130

>>10270534
holy shit that is typical retarded bcashie logic
if i hosted my start up company's website on https://www.alibabacloud.com/solutions/hosting i'd be partnered with and supported by alibaba, largest ecommerce company in the world ...... pathetic

>> No.10271255

>>10271110
Datacenters and businesses. It's a lot more realistic approach for a massive global currency while still being decentralized. Or i guess you probably think the 100's of thousands of datacenters and millions of businesses across the planet will all collude and it will be a centralized shitcoin.

>> No.10271310

>>10271255
>100's of thousands of datacenters and millions of businesses across the planet
millions? are you retarded?
math isn't on your side

>> No.10271380

What's funny is you can already do something like 10MB 100% full blocks with consumer grade hardware right now.

>CPU has never been a problem
>Network isn't a problem, even home connections provide the necessary bandwidth
>Disk space isn't a problem
>RAM for UTXO sets isn't a problem

The core argument for "big blocks = centralization" is literally just a strawman. There was zero need to effectively destroy bitcoin's growth and fracture the community. A simple raise to 2MB would have fixed literally everything. 2MB, where even a farmer out in the fucking fields could have ran a full node on an old Nokia phone with 3G connection speeds.

But no. Gotta have this bullshit LN which doesn't even fucking work. Gotta let literal psychos like Luke jr try to fuck with Linux repositories. Gotta DDoS other node software.

I really don;t care what BCH does or even doesn't do, it could be literal vaporware (it's actually one of the most developed coins right now) and it would still be better than Core.

>> No.10271398

the corecuck FOMO when BCH takes off will be hilarious

>> No.10271399

>>10271310
Really?

>> No.10271415

>>10271380
try syncing an ethereum node

>> No.10271527

It's going to be a funny time when BCASH btfos r/cryptocurrency

>he actually thinks all the big names backing BCH will lose
>betting against Jihan wu

wew

>> No.10271577

>>10271415
When faced with facts, the cashie skulks into the undergrowth

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>>10271577
>>10271415
there were no facts presented.

>> No.10271758

>>10271658
The fact is the etherum blockchain is a pain in the arse to deal with already, at approx 0% mass adoption. "Bigger blocks" is the rallying cry of the retard.

>> No.10271849

>>10271758
And yet, ETH has the most developers and the most activity, by fucking far. It's almost as if you are not actually that involved, and jut repeating shitty Core talking points.

>> No.10271908

>>10270979
>A hard fork would result in exclusion which, with bitcoin being valued at one time close to $20,000, would result in people's not being able to access to their bitcoins

Who the fuck cares? There was a hardfork for monero and so my transaction didn't work. So I just downloaded the new one. Holy fuck, it isn't fucking rocket science.