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10150173 No.10150173 [Reply] [Original]

I got scammed didn't I

>> No.10150186

you filled some pajeet's sell order and that's about it! :D

>> No.10150193

You didn't get scammed. You invested in a project early before it's on any major exchanges. Have some patience.

>> No.10150201

>>10150193
>COPE

>> No.10150210

>>10150193

Agreed. I felt scammed when I bought MAN before anyone heard of it

>> No.10150243

>>10150193
I went all in at 18k sats, my hands are literally shaking rn. I couldn't sleep when Serena deleted her twitter profile picture I thought the exit scam was starting

>> No.10150287

I bought at 7k average could have sold at massive profit lol
It better not be a scam

>> No.10150305

>>10150243
well...you never go all in senpai

>> No.10150313

>>10150210
I too have been JUST'd by MAN, but holding it now...

>> No.10150325

>>10150173
Don't listen to biz. You got in very early. What you planning to do, sell low?

>> No.10150403

>>10150173
Yes, you got, too bad for you. but it's not too late yet. Go sell NOW before is too late (preferentialy in Trade Ogre). Go fill all those orders, and I'll be very grateful.

>> No.10150520

>>10150193
lol at you latecomer
bought this shit at 50 cent when it was lowkey shilled here
sold at 3 dollar when the shilling got harder
that's how you do it
not advertising your heavy bags for free you jokers

>> No.10150663

>>10150173

> 1000 Dero

is enough to make it desu, buy now or you'll be the next : Shit, I knew Bitcoin in 2011.

>> No.10150686

>>10150663
I got 750, that enough? I'm really strapped right now.

>> No.10150691

>20.000 USD 24H volume


look at this dude.. ooh no no no no no.....
HAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

>> No.10150740

>>10150686

In short term no, long term yes (3/4 years)

I don't think it's gonna explode until devs are really big name.

>> No.10150781

>written in google language
>anonymous coin
>google
>anonymous

HAHAHAHA YOU PEOPLE STILL TRYING?

>> No.10150809
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10150809

>>10150781

literally /biz/tard : technical illiterate teenager gambling on crypto.

>> No.10151443
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>>10150781
The absolute state of brainlets

>> No.10152170

>>10150781
I don't know how to code but even i know that's retarded

>> No.10152589 [DELETED] 

Why the hell are we pulling together and getting this thing on a new exchange?

The Dero community pulled together and got this thing on Tradeogre back when it was only on stocks. Why can't we help get it on another exchange? Are we all just too lazy?

>> No.10152645

The first comments from code reviewers are in and they are quietly dumping their bags before the devs flood the market with premine, which is 45% of all coins minted, or what's left of the premine anyway. They showed the view key with 2 million coins but did not explain that it does not account for debits, only credits, kek.

>> No.10152648

Why the hell aren't we pulling together and getting this thing on a new exchange?

The Dero community pulled together and got this thing on Tradeogre back when it was only on stocks. Why can't we help get it on another exchange? Are we all just too lazy?

>> No.10152660

>>10152645
Dumb retarded FUD. First, you faggots say the code is closed. Then, you say nobody has the source code. Now, you say they DID have the source code, but you won't provide a single link for evidence.

What's wrong? You're so lazy you can't even make up a good link to FUD with?

Lazy faggot.

>> No.10152811

>>10150740
I was planning on holding for a while anyway so that works for me, how much sooner would 1k have to make it?

>> No.10152880
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>>10152811
It depends on the market. If the bull market happens in August, you could make it as early as September. With each and every day that passes, more and more FUD gets killed. The premine FUD is now dead, the GUI wallet FUD will be dead soon (see screencap), and once someone who has looked at the source code actually releases a review and maybe even a part of the source code that includes the DAG, that will die too.

>> No.10152924

>>10152645
>+1 peepcoin has been added to your account

>> No.10153075

>>10152645
At least someone else knows what's up. I have hundreds of commits for cryptonote coins and view only keys are laughable. Very few people know that they only show inputs sent to the wallet. They do not show output transactions. There's a very high chance as shady as the dero assholes are, that they have already dumped the premine

>> No.10153154

Dero pump happening. Right before my bank transfer gets there.

>> No.10153165

>>10150173

Nah, totally didn't.

>> No.10153499

bump

>> No.10153612

>>10153075

weak FUD you could easily check transaction history using this :

DERO premine wallet view key : f221cf4f77d11f0061f3e4c9615540cbc2d2d532ac2f08c623d2a72ad0145d702b7e5941737e0416eebaba30c3c30b517a14db1efa9aa13b119e31c380313603

Coins are still there and without any spend transaction.

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>>10153612
It's pretty hard to argue with people who think like pic related.

>> No.10154216

dero

>> No.10154591

>>10152660
There was a private source code review, paid for by an investor group to a PhD who looked at the code. We decided to pull the plug based on the analysis.
The devs have been selling and the view key cannot show spent coins, try it with your own wallet. A big chunk of premine has been dumped already, this is why the price is down from $5 to $1.

>> No.10154687

Ask the devs why the premine was not locked as promised and you will get all sorts of excuses from the community while the mods will simply ignore you or if you ask again will ban you outright. Enjoy your bags.

>> No.10154871

>>10154591
Proof or you're LARPing.

>> No.10155087

>>10150173
most likely yes because of this
>>10154591
>>10154687

>> No.10155152

>>10155087
Waiting for proof

>> No.10155195

>>10154591
Pull the plug on what?

Your FUD is getting better, but it still has a lot of nonsense in it.

>> No.10155331

>>10155152
who doesn't wait for proof?
No source code, no trust.
Easy like that.

>> No.10155357

>>10154591
Wait what, is this for real with the wallet only showing inputs? Can anyone confirm this?

>> No.10155364

>>10155331
Nobody on 4chan has even looked at the NORMAL source code yet that has been available on the github for MONTHS now. Even if they released the entire source code right now, nobody on 4chan would even touch it. They'd have to wait for a cryptographer to release a fully-fledged normie review on why stuff "just works" in order for them to care.

>> No.10155407

>>10155364
because 4chan is only one person called Anonymous? topkek
I work in this field, but i won't give away my personal information.

>> No.10155414

>>10150173
Dude Monero already has way more trust why not just invest in that.

>> No.10155421

>>10155407
>I work in this field

Okay, so then tell me:

https://github.com/deroproject/

Does this look like a scam to you? According to the devs, a person can easily pull out a part of the source code from the files listed on this github, yet everyone keeps saying there is no source code available. What is your take on this?

>> No.10155431

>>10155414
Because Monero is slow as hell and its multi-layered solution provides many security risks? Oh, and let's not forget the fact that Monero had hidden mining on it for OVER A YEAR. This is not speculation. Monero actually admitted to this fact and "patched" it out.

>> No.10155453

>>10155421
All i see there is mostly standard CN code.
All at least 5 months old.No Atlantis code anywhere.
What do you want to tell me?

>> No.10155466

>>10155331
So, no proof, right?

>> No.10155484

>>10155453
As someone who has no idea how to read code, can you screencap a random portion of the GO code for us to look at? It's literally as simple as opening the source code, pressing "PrtSc", pasting it in MSPaint, and taking a picture.

If you're not larping, this should be incredibly easy to do and would barely take a minute of your time. I have never actually seen the GO code since I don't know about cyptography, so I'm interested to see what it actually looks like.

>> No.10155493

>>10155466
Proof of what?
There is no Atlantis source code on Github.
So yes, it does look like a scam to me.
It also could be great code, but there is none to see.

>> No.10155497

>>10155493
Are you a crytographer? If you are, please contact the Dero devs and be the first one on 4chan to actually ask them for the code, because from what I've seen, not a single person on 4chan has even ASKED them yet.

Until someone on 4chan who knows cryptography actually gets off their lazy butt and ASKS, we have no right to complain.

>> No.10155512

>>10155497
I'd have to give up my personal information and I've had bad experiences with that.
And for what? For a project I'm not really interested in.
I love the idea, but I dislike its execution.

>> No.10155588

>>10155512
Please see >>10155484

Can you at least post a screencap of the currently released GO source code?

>> No.10155622

>>10155588
I really don't understand what you're trying to accomplish.
You posted the link yourself. Click on the code files yourself.
And there are no up-to-date code snippets on Github.
Especially no Atlantis code.

>> No.10155634
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>>10155622
Is this a part of the old GO code?

If they were to release the Atlantis code RIGHT NOW, what would be the first things you would actually look at?

>> No.10155685

>>10155634
Since I don't work with golang at work, I would first get a rough overview and see if the code was commented properly.
Next I would look at the area responsible for the block times to see how the timing in the P2P network is maintained.
I would be particularly interested in this point, because for some unknown reason the system time has a strong influence on the Dero network.

>> No.10155703

>>10155685
According to a dev of Dero, a large portion of the source code of Atlantis is already in the github link. The parts that haven't been released to the public yet are the DERO-DAG (responsible for the block times and other things), the bulletproofs, and a few other minor details.

>the system time has a strong influence on the Dero network

I don't get what this statement means. What do you mean the system time has a strong influence?

>> No.10155731

>>10155703
You can check on Github yourself. The code there is almost half a year old. I didn't go through everything, but I didn't notice any Atlantis code. When you have found any of it, please show me.

>I don't get what this statement means. What do you mean the system time has a strong influence

By that I mean, try to send or receive something if the system time of your computer is not exactly correct. I've never seen it like this on another coin. That's why I'd look for it first.

>> No.10155745

>>10155731
This is the first I've heard of this feature. Are you saying Dero is claiming that you can send or receive coins if your computer time is not exact?

>> No.10155773

>>10155745
>feature
I don't think that's a feature.
If you have a Dero Wallet you can test it yourself.
I'd find this piece of code very interesting to see.

>> No.10155783

>>10155773
Why would it be interesting? Are you saying the code is glitchy, or that it's hard to write something like that?

>> No.10155797

>>10155783
I want to see it because it's not the case with any other CN coins I know.
And only when you see the code you understand why something is implemented as it is.

>> No.10155822

>>10153612
Cryptonote view keys don't show outgoing transactions. There's no way of knowing.

>> No.10156028

>>10155822
Really?
I didnt know that.

>> No.10156104

>>10155822
There is an option to show a current wallet balance. You cannot see the outgoing transactions, but you can check the wallet balance at any time to confirm that the coins are still there.

>> No.10156166

>>10156104
And do you know if they even have activated this option?

>> No.10156175

>>10156166
>not without the source code
We are going in circles!

>> No.10156204

Holy crap Serena is EXPLODING on the Discord right now

Not sure if good or bad

>> No.10156219

>>10156204

We actually dont know if the 2 million premine has been / is being sold.. Id say that is a more pressing matter

>> No.10156233

>>10156219
Then why don't you go on there and ask her

>> No.10156252

>>10156233
Someone already has.. still looking for an answer it seems

>> No.10156293

>>10156252
Mojo just confirmed that you can see the live balance and "spent" transaction with the view key, but you NEED to have the wallet in order to view it.

Which means you need to know how to operate a non-normie crypto wallet to view the status of the premine.

HAHAHAHA good luck with that :^)

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>>10152170
>>10151443
>>10150809

dero is most obvious scam and trojan horse in crypto so far, my friend who is cryptographer told me so stfu; also it's nice to chat with dero developer posting through vpn

>> No.10156331

>>10156293
Confirmed? Him saying "You can check spent status of key images" does not exactly prove anything.. Do you believe anything anonymous devs say without proof?

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>>10156331
>I just showed through a scientific analysis that there is oxygen in the air your are breathing but that doesn't mean that you are breathing any oxygen

>> No.10156380

>>10156371
Don`t trust people!
Only trust the code!

>> No.10156382

>>10156371
>>I just showed through a scientific analysis that there is oxygen in the air your are breathing but that doesn't mean that you are breathing any oxygen

Okay, theres just no helping you lol

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>>10156371
>your are
>want to delete post and repost but too many people have replied to it already

>> No.10156425

>>10156371
Can one person really be this dumb or is it bait?

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>>10156425
You do realize calling someone "dumb" and not explaining why the comment was dumb makes you look retarded, right?

With the viewkey, you can view the CURRENT balance of that wallet. As in, the current balance, as in, the balance RIGHT NOW. If the balance is still 2 million RIGHT NOW, how the hell would they have transferred to another wallet?

inb4 another sarcastic FUD reply

>> No.10156483

>>10156455
I think he was referring to that post
>>10156331

>> No.10156539

>>10156455
Ok, then please explain to me why that is possible. On moneros official site they write that using a viewkey to check a wallet will only show incoming transactions, unless you make some changes. From what i can tell, there is no way to tell if they have actually made those changes, unless we have transfer off 1 dero so we can see that it shows..

>> No.10156548

Unless we have them*

>> No.10156703

>>10156455
Inb4 no reply

>> No.10156919

bump

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>>10156539
>On moneros official site
THIS. ISN'T. MONERO.

Stop applying Monero logic to Dero. You can view Dero's live balance at all times -- live, meaning what's in there RIGHT NOW.

>> No.10156937

>>10155431
Dero hashpower is centralized, 90% (check it yourself) on dero.miner.rocks with instant 100MH jumps up and down when big Chinese farms turn on/off. It is owned and controlled by farm operators.

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>>10156937
Then buy your own mining rig to compete with the Chinese farms.

People who have money to spend on rigs will get more hashpower and more coin of what they're trying to get. Welcome to the world of crypto.

>> No.10157004

Whatever Serena has programmed an AMA. You should ask her directly on slack.

>> No.10157008

>>10156104
Wrong. The balance in the wallet created from a view key will not account for spent coins and will show only the received amount. Try it with your own dero wallet to see for yourself: create a view key from your wallet menu then create a separate view only wallet.

>> No.10157042

>>10156988

Well spend $1600 to have 5 coins / day... ROI 10 months at least.

>> No.10157043

>>10157004
People aren't going to do that though, because then they would get actual answers. They'd rather sit in Dero threads and make up random FUD for their own personal amusement.

>> No.10157059

>>10156931
do this >>10157008
and see for yourself

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>>10157043

Exactly like no one give a shit about source code even if it will be released tomorow.

Like someone said earlier devs code from scratch new CryptoNote code in couple of month but no one give a shit about it, because no one have the skill to understand it on biz.

>> No.10157076

>>10157059
do this >>10157004
and see for yourself

>> No.10157112

>>10156988
Bitmain's ASICS are already ROI'd on Monero and are essentially free, there is no way one could compete with mining cost based on Chinese electricity cost only without capital cost. It will be profitable for them to keep mining and dumping until Dero reaches about 5000 sat at the current hashrate, then they will reduce the hashrate to reduce the mining cost and keep mining and dumping. This is what "controlled" means.

>> No.10157161

>>10157112
That's if Dero stays at its current hashrate forever and never increases as it gets exposure.

People keep making the mistake that 4chan is the world and that everyone already knows about Dero. Other than Bitcointalk where every crypto is talked about frequently, I haven't heard anything outside of 4chan about Dero. Nothing on YouTube, nothing on social media or Reddit (outside of Dero's own official places), nothing from popular crypto analysts, no videos, no real articles, NOTHING.

Nobody even knows about this thing yet.

>> No.10157272

>>10156931
No shit sherlock, but its a cryptonote coin just like monero, which it happened to fork from. Try check your own wallet as described and see for yourself

>> No.10157327

>>10157043
lol what, people have been asking simple questions about the premine and can't get a single decent answer - about something as important as a fucking 2 million unlocked premine.. and no, there is no AMA yet, just an intention of doing one. Imma guess they can string us along for that one a few more days also.... Holy shit at how people literally expect nothing from a project

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Dero really needs more memes.

>> No.10157359

>>10157327
>people have been asking simple questions about the premine and can't get a single decent answer

People have already gotten the answer. It's just not the answer YOU want to hear. If you're that adamant about it, keep bugging them in their chat to give a concrete answer and actually bring up the points you're bringing up in this thread. Then, keep repeating it over and over and over again in a polite way without insulting them. If they keep refusing to answer and they ban you, THEN you can keep whining about this.

The devs owe you NOTHING. It is YOUR responsibility to keep the pressure on using the resources given to you. If they aren't answering to your liking, come up with a polite, professional question, such as:

"You have given us the public view key for the 2 million Dero premine. However, there is no way to confirm whether or not the Dero is still in that wallet. How can we know for certain?"

And just keep asking that again and again nonstop until they give you a clear answer. And just don't stop asking it.

>> No.10157366

By the way, I'm heading out now. I hope you can find a way to get the answer you're seeking.

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>>10157330
Afaik Dero already has a lot of memes!

>> No.10157431

>>10156425

It's bait. Everytime biz tries to rip them apart. Dero fags use this tactics to escape. They will post another dero thread some time later. Reddit already kicked these shits out, so they use 4chan to shill their scam. Lot of autistic people here.

>> No.10157485

>>10157359
>owe you NOTHING
I bet you love it when he takes you against "your consent".

>> No.10157578

Guys forget about the premine. The code is closed source currently and there are a million ways for the devs to fuck you over if they wanted too. If you think the devs are shady DUMP your bags right now to be safe. If you like to take the risk for potential 1000x gains then stay invested.

>> No.10157640

>>10157578
1000x with a single dev? Good luck.

>> No.10157655

>>10157640

Lot of autistic kids here. Seeing 1000x they will fall for this shit

>> No.10157658

>>10157640
Theirs like 5 developers you nonce

>> No.10157687

>>10157655
Haha, you bought this shit of "three devs working on the project" while there is only one committer on github and not a single peep for 7 months from anyone other than that only dev?

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> Working since 2011 to resolve Bitcoin scalability issue
> Audit Bulletprrofs himself

1000x it's gonna be the lowest price.

>> No.10158196

>>10157431
>Reddit already kicked these shits out
When? /r/CryptoCurrency has multiple Dero threads right now...

>> No.10158283

>>10158196

Na, just /r/Cryptocyrrency admin is just a Monero fag who abuse his power, no big deal.

>> No.10159373

Scaaaaaaaaamcoiiiiiiiiin!

>> No.10159643

>>10157072
>unironic bait

>> No.10160381

>>10159373
Faaaaaaaagooooot!

>> No.10160546

Love watching this scamcoin bleed to death while bagholders screech their trash excuses for all the shady shit going on.

Should've sold at the top anon.

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>>10160546
I hold Dero and I don't care.

>> No.10160938

>>10150193
I just believed this post. I got scammed didn't I

>> No.10161123

>>10160938
Just take your medication against ADHD & cut the onions. Those pills are good for you.

>> No.10161371

>>10160546
Their community is dead by now. Those mods killed the whole discord

>> No.10161384

>>10160381
Biiiiiiiitch

>> No.10161435

>>10159643
If you think anyone on /biz/ can or will read a source code then all I can say is kek. /biz/ is now just larping teens trying to scam each other, nobody here is tech literate.

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>>10161371
bs