/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.10130889]

Anon, tell me why are you not all in in ELA?

[Anonymous No.10130901]

[Anonymous No.10130905]

Bch is about to flip btc any day now.
Roger Ver, Jihan Wu, Calvin Ayre, The 8btc mod (19hZx234vNtLazfx5J2bxHsiWEmeYE8a7k), Jiang Zhouer, the bitcoin.com cofounder, the Coinbase founder - all BILLIONAIRES who can complete the flippening with their own cash TODAY
They're not doing so because they'd rather invest in BCH adoption. BCH adoption is skyrocketing while btc adoption is dropping.
In a few years both St Kitts and Antigua will use BCH as their main currency (Roger is working on St Kitts, Calvin is investing in Antigua more money than their GDP exclusively because of BCH adoption), Craig Wright will increase transaction counts by circumventing corrupt governments in Africa for money transfers (this one is not certain but very possible considering his funding), Roger is speaking to VIP-s every other day, including Japanese bank CEO-s, stock exchange owners, etc. Brian Armstrong will push BCH and shit on BTC subtly every chance he gets, bitcoin.com wallet is the most popular mobile wallet and it literally shits on BTC, propaganda/censorship effects are fading, Purse just added BCH meaning that normies can use it to get 20% discounts on amazon, Koreans love BCH and they seem to matter at least as much as Americans and significantly more than eurofags, miners are looking for ways to destroy BTC in the next few years otherwise their profits will crumble, LN is proving more and more of a failure every single day, Wright will patent-troll startups into moving into BCH, tipping on github is now possible with bch, smart contracts are coming in November, stress tests are a massive success, charities are popularizing BCH in struggling countries (Venezuela today, others will join in if trouble arises), Free Society project is progressing well, Circle is adding BCH next few weeks, Ayre who became a billionaire from gambling is going to create BCH-only online casinos..

[Anonymous No.10131526]

Sssshhhhh

[Anonymous No.10131538]

>>10130889
because I'm tired of holding bags in projects that promise everything and then after 1 year they go "lol jk, this is hard"

[Anonymous No.10131890]

>>10130889
Question OP
Do I trade my Eos for Elastos?

[Anonymous No.10131968]

>>10131890
Considering EOS is a practically a demo version of Elastos, yes.

[Anonymous No.10131977]

>>10130889
Cause I'm in something much, much better.

[Anonymous No.10131984]

>>10131968
What about the Governance in Eos. Normies dont think it's a meme. I'm concerned about moving to Ela then normies are too stupid to figure out Ela is the better project.
Do you have a link to that vid?

[Anonymous No.10131989]

>>10131977
Better than Elastos kek I'll bite, give me hint, not the name, lets make it interesting.

[Anonymous No.10131996]

Elastos is cool but there is literally no reason why Eth cannot scale and have all these things in time. Rong chen forgets that eth is not a finished product what so ever.

Ela uses PoW with no Pos or sharding. It is risky. If eth is successful with pos it nuls competition using pow no matter how many side chains they utilize to get around it.

[Anonymous No.10132001]

>>10131996
ELA has partnered with MAN (matrix AI network), who claims to have reached 50K TX/s

[Anonymous No.10132026]

>>10131984
What about it? It's a centralised, broken governance model, Elastos doesn't rely on that, secures the network via merged mining with BTC and DPoS will be introduced to produce rewards for users, but more importantly governance and incentive. DPoS will not secure the network ala EOS its a bonus.

Think its this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wCAWK2ID8g

Elastos Alpha release in August
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zcsYFP3DaA

https://visionz.capital/research/elastos_research_summary.pdf


>>10131996
It's not about scaling, ETH by design is worse.

[Anonymous No.10132036]

>>10132001

Its all well and good to say “ELA benefits from all other blockchains” due to aode chains but if its main selling point becomes literally mooching off of other chains that then get used by ELA, what is the fucking point of this middle man.

Like Rong chen makes fun of ETH all the time for having no daaps or crypto kitties but he fails to acknowledge that forst, eth is in early stage, active development. Secondly, ELA has no fucking daaps or adoption what so ever. Compared to eth, its nothing.

Meeged mining is a cool way to secure the network but if the daap market moves away from pow, then its fucked. Why have the middle man?

All things like digital identity are possible on ETH once plasma arrives. Then it moves onto ELA for what reason?
Maybe ELA with its runtime is great but that is the best part. The ELA ecosystem is so infantile atm like the rest of blockchain its retarded to take a hoghground. ELAs best card is the runtime, not its blockchain.

[Anonymous No.10132039]

>>10131989
My picture was the clue, it's logo is of a cubical nature.

[Anonymous No.10132071]

>>10132026
>ut more importantly governance and incentive.
Thanks bro. Do you have anymore useful links for Elastos?
Really appreciate your help.

[Anonymous No.10132124]

>>10132039
Ah crafty fox
>>10132036
Nebulas has more Dapps than ETH. Bringing out that chestnut is pointless. Dapps aren't a necessity, apps can be run through runtime and carrier.
Solved scaling problems will be implemented into Elastos. But again beside the point, Elastos doesn't have the same scaling issues as ETH, its merged mining migrating to a DPoS layer already got plasma like sidechains.
First dapp rumoured to be
>DZapya CEO Xiaodong Wang (p2p file transferring, with 500million users) http://www.izapya.com/
>>10132071
Yeh but DYOR

[Anonymous No.10132166]

>>10132124
8 more Dapps currently in development

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skewtq-kUQY

[Anonymous No.10132178]

>>10132124
I know. I know a lot about ELASTOS and i sprnt years as an operating system developer. If anything elastos is right up my alley. But i also see its flaws due to this. I would not advise anyone to “go all in” unless you are going to tell them its a gamble to like with most. Its ignorant.

Its so early days in blockchain. There is a real possibility that Eth can make everything bar a few obselete, and people need to accept that and HEDGE their investment never all in unless its a new paragdim coin and unique. Even then its a huge bet and risk like going all into ETH or xrp was in 2015 the time of never ending btc clones and “better” versions of bitcoin.

Ela is one to watch. But its too early in this game to say things like this and talk as if its a sure fire winner. It has simply put itself in position where it can go easily in any direction the technology as a whole goes. Thats it.

The interesting part about ela is the runtime, and may i remind you that it is easily possible to use it on Eths network if they wanted. This is why i call ELA a middle man for now.

[Anonymous No.10132179]

>>10131977
Do tell...

[Anonymous No.10132198]

>>10132178
And when i talk about hedging, that is literally all elastos has done. They hedge their product against other popular blockchains which might take off. So they merge mine with btc, but can benefit from others work if plasma on eth works etc. So if one fails it equals out as others wins.

Do that with your money too.

[Anonymous No.10132204]

>>10132166
>C/C++ code for mobile
>OS developers actively discourage native code on mobile because of security concern

>build security critical distributed software with C for mobile

can you spot the mistake?

[Anonymous No.10132242]

>>10130889
ELA is awesome. Look at its max supply: ~33B. That's only x1.6 that of Bitcoin and _that_ reached $20k last bull-run, Elastos is very undervalued right now:

- On Huobi only (americans think they can't buy)
- Involvement w/ chinese government + industry (Huawei, Foxconn, etc)
- Elastos Runtime will be cross-platform, allowing elastos dapps to be accessible on all platforms

Elastos has FAR more long-term value + utility than BTC, imo. Good to see it mentioned a bit more often.

[Anonymous No.10132259]

>>10132242


Pls stop comparing any alts to BTC. It is a fundamental misunderstanding of the market you are investing in.

If we are talking about the technology thats one thing. But the market doesnt equal the technology. Alts should never be compares to BTC and used as any form Of rhetoric for a rise or gain “compared to” it due to technology or circumstances.

Token economics are a different story too. The fact of the matter is even elastos developers know this. Which is why its merged mined with btc.

[Anonymous No.10132261]

>>10132204
What do you think JavaVM is written in?

[Anonymous No.10132263]

>>10132242
>can't distinguish between billions and millions

[Anonymous No.10132278]

>>10132036
>>10132178
>>10132198
I smell mETHead fangayism.

[Anonymous No.10132321]

>>10132278

Call me whatever the fuck you want. Its simply about hedging your investment instead of being an absolute retard and believing your coin is superman and will do the extraordinary. Its saying “no im not going to gamble”.

But fuck it this is biz. Eth and btc are shitty investment here altcoins and 2m marketcap gamblong is the way to go. Fundamental misundertanding of investing here.

Eth is primed as the daap platform. Thays the point. Betting against it is stupid as fuck. Because it has a high chance of being the default evenif “better “ alternatives come. Just like the btc clones after 2014 crash. None survived.

Buy ELA. Its a good alt. Dont all in and bet agaisnt eth like a tard

[Anonymous No.10132353]

>>10131538
This anon got it.

[Anonymous No.10132383]

>>10132263
It's early in the morning and I decided to check this board of degeneracy; yes I typed "B" instead of "M", eat me out..

>>10132259
You're a bitch-ass nigga you know that? Tell me how my statement was false, and how Bitcoin in 1 year will have more actual value & utility than Elastos in 1 year.

You cannot. I bring up the comparative supplies between ELA and BTC to bring into perspective the % of network share you can currently buy for your money with ELA

[Anonymous No.10132400]

>>10132321
I like you for calling out this project the way it is instead of the usual "muhh chinkscam China hustle". Im curious, what alts do you hold if you don't mind me asking?

[Anonymous No.10132565]

>>10132353
Yeah, but I got it the hard way. People don't realize that it's easy to be better or even the best project in crypto when you write a whitepaper or get a designer to Photoshop some features. Doing the actual work is hard. Blockchain is hard.

Nowadays every retard shows up with some Sci-Fi bullshit whitepaper and people start throwing money left and right at it. If this bear market wasn't enough of a reckoning, there will be another one soon.
2018-2019 won't be the year of Tron or other overvalued bullshit. I actually expect a resurgence of the 2017 golden boys that got forgotten. Projects like Stratis, ARK, NEO, etc. These teams have actually tasted shit and saw how hard it is. They got outshined by newer, flashier projects but in the meantime they actually did some work and in the next 6-12 months they will deliver on that work. Meanwhile the new kids on the block will realize that they overpromised and they are still 3-5 years away from a working product. The market will realize this too.
2019 is the year where the entire crypto market gets a reality check and we go back to basics.

[Anonymous No.10132669]

>>10132565
>new kids on the block

A reminder that surgey has been working on Link since before ETH was around.

[Anonymous No.10132758]

>>10132669
I don't have anything against Link desu. Sure it's shilled around here like crazy and its annoying, but the team is low key. Maybe too low key. Someday I'll probably become a stinky as well.

[Anonymous No.10132852]

ELA is just another attempt for bitmain to corner another market with their asic empire. Old tech being revived by block chain grab money off what used to be wasted time on development. China #1

[Anonymous No.10133180]

>>10132178
I agree that you should diversify, I don't think my info on elastos alluded to going all in, neither did I say that ETH can't match Elastos. ETH by its design is worse, thats all and it'll be a challenge to get to where Elastos is currently.

I see no real downside to putting some in Elastos they're reactive to change and have the Asian market firmly behind them.

>developers are easily migrateable,

>>10132565
My holdings are Ark > Nas > Ela

>Ark has a mobile wallet, where is ETH's?
>Buy in wallet function
>modular, scalable deployable chains with more plugins, API's & SDK's than any other

[Anonymous No.10133221]

>>10132565
Lol I love that anons think "good fundamentals" means an old unsuccessful project with a token tacked on to raise money.

[Anonymous No.10133619]

>>10132669
>A reminder that surgey has been working on Link since before ETH was around.
a reminder that sergey doesnt know how to code and cannot "work" on link

[Anonymous No.10133623]

>>10130889
im almost. 5k ela here

[Anonymous No.10133635]

they forgot the most important one

chink

only chinkland is going to want to use a chinkcoin, so if you're looking for a global platform, can't be a chinkcoin.

[Anonymous No.10133672]

>>10133221
As a person who has been part of many failed and successful startups, success and failure are indistinguishable until product market fit is tested.

[Anonymous No.10133758]

7 new exchanges soon tm

[Anonymous No.10134403]

>>10133635
>Partnered with UK real estate buisness
>Met US senators
>Hosted at talk at the infamous Omaha Dinner with Buffet and Bezos in attendance

[Anonymous No.10134453]

>>10132321
this guy has a good point

[Anonymous No.10134603]

Because of the shitty token economics

[Anonymous No.10135872]

>>10131538
hmmmmm...

[Anonymous No.10136091]

>>10134603
ETH and XRP have shittier token economics

Your point?

[Anonymous No.10136120]

BECAUSE I CANT FUCKING. UH IT B/C. HUOBI WONT VERIFY ME B/C IM A USA CITIZEN! FUCK, THE ONE SHITCOIN I REALLY WANT TO BUY#

[Anonymous No.10136192]

>>10136120
Oh no no no

[Anonymous No.10136201]

>>10130889
Easy. It’s a chink scam.

[Anonymous No.10136231]

>>10132001
MAN is a chink scam

[Anonymous No.10136237]

>>10130889
shits gonna blow with new exchanges

[Anonymous No.10136243]

5 mill circ supply with 33 million supply? chink scaaaaaaaaaaaaam

[Anonymous No.10136244]

>>10134403
Imagine falling this hard for a chink scam

[Anonymous No.10136283]

>>10136201
>>10136231
>>10136244
Tell me what you're holding.

[Anonymous No.10136467]

>>10136283
ZIL - best solution to the TPS problem
ZRX - muh decentralized exchange

50/50 all in

[Anonymous No.10136486]

>>10136283
>>10136467
This. Switched from iPhone to laptop

[Anonymous No.10136561]

>>10131538
Alpha in August friendo

[Anonymous No.10136562]

>>10131968
Who's the dumb looking zoomer in the corner?

[Anonymous No.10136768]

>>10130889
Because BCH is better.
Roger Ver, Jihan Wu, Calvin Ayre, The 8btc mod (19hZx234vNtLazfx5J2bxHsiWEmeYE8a7k), Jiang Zhouer, the bitcoin.com cofounder, the Coinbase founder - all BILLIONAIRES who can complete the flippening with their own cash TODAY.
They're not doing so because they'd rather invest in BCH adoption. BCH adoption is skyrocketing while btc adoption is dropping.
In a few years both St Kitts and Antigua will use BCH as their main currency (Roger is working on St Kitts, Calvin is investing in Antigua more money than their GDP exclusively because of BCH adoption), Craig Wright will increase transaction counts by circumventing corrupt governments in Africa for money transfers (this one is not certain but very possible considering his funding), Roger is speaking to VIP-s every other day, including Japanese bank CEO-s, stock exchange owners, etc. Brian Armstrong will push BCH and shit on BTC subtly every chance he gets, bitcoin.com wallet is the most popular mobile wallet and it literally shits on BTC, propaganda/censorship effects are fading, Purse just added BCH meaning that normies can use it to get 20% discounts on amazon, Koreans love BCH and they seem to matter at least as much as Americans and significantly more than eurofags, miners are looking for ways to destroy BTC in the next few years otherwise their profits will crumble, LN is proving more and more of a failure every single day, Wright will patent-troll startups into moving into BCH, tipping on github is now possible with bch, smart contracts are coming in November, stress tests are a massive success, charities are popularizing BCH in struggling countries (Venezuela today, others will join in if trouble arises), Free Society project is progressing well, Circle is adding BCH next few weeks, Ayre who became a billionaire from gambling is going to create BCH-only online casinos

[Anonymous No.10136784]

>>10136467
KMD can handle more TPS, and has security plus many other shits

[Literally Gandalf No.10137359]

>>10130889
<CHECKMARK -> SECURITY

Yeah were secure alright as you can see here on this checkmark covering it we are secured my man

[Anonymous No.10137393]

>>10136467
doesnt ETH implement sharding too? why should ZIL be relevant in the future lol