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/smg/ - Stock Market General Anonymous Fri Jun 29 22:57:26 2018 No.10090536 [Reply] [Original]

Cool evening vibes edition

Popular brokers for stock trading:

Robinhood
>commission free and no minimum to open
http://www.robinhood.com

> How is it free?
Robinhood earns revenue by collecting interest on cash/securities and fees from their Robinhood Gold service

> When is it coming to my country?
The only "plans" are on an Australian and Chinese beta. Neither of which has gained much traction.

Interactive Brokers
>$0.005 commission per share. $1 minimum to open. Lowest margin interest. Free API access
http://www.interactivebrokers.com

TD Ameritade
>$6.95 commission per trade. No minimum to open. Fantastic data/charting through their free ThinkorSwim service
http://www.tdameritrade.com

Degiro (Cheap broker for Europeans)
http://www.degiro.eu

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free in depth charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
http://www.nasdaq.com/extended-trading/premarket-mostactive.aspx
https://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/
https://www.cnbc.com/pre-markets/

Earnings Report Calendars:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

CNBC Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/cnbc-america.html
Fox Business Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/business/fox-business-network-fbn.html
Bloomberg Live:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

Basic rundown on options:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBAQtjyqNHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTTzfa4ePE

previous thread >>10084825

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:01:36 2018 No.10090584 >>10090536 First for self loathing HMNY bagholders

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:02:20 2018 No.10090594 most of my money is in my savings and boring index investments thinking of adding some cash (500 or so) to robinhood to play with memes. should i do it or should i just contribute everything i can to my longterm stuff? it's just boring...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:04:52 2018 No.10090615 >>10090536 good. my thread got all mashed up and 4chan wont let me post more than one new thread every 10 mins did you add the khan academy link?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:06:35 2018 No.10090635 >>10090594 its boring but its safe. if youre willing to maybe lose $500, then i say do it. stay here and shitpost and see how you fare. just remember what the word "speculative means"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:08:52 2018 No.10090658 >>10090594 Tbh this is the wrong question you ask. How much free time do you have? Do you have a higher, more urgent priority, like getting in shape? These are the questions you must first ask and answer senpai

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:10:06 2018 No.10090672 >>10090615 >did you add the khan academy link? Nah, that had already been added in the previous thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:10:52 2018 No.10090681 File: 1 KB, 23x585, behind post.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10090584 I'm thinking it still has a chance of popping up to $0.60 on Monday. If it does, be grateful and get out until after the reverse split.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:12:37 2018 No.10090698 >>10090672 no it was the one thats about stocks and bonds 101 https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/core-finance/stock-and-bonds

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:13:32 2018 No.10090711

>>10090658
not really i guess i could treat it like a hobby the only problem is my days off are erratic and i work full time so trading might be very hard. unless i open and close trades on my days off or buy things i don't need to check at work. that's another reason i'm a little concerned to put money in speculative stuff. i don't have to check over my long term daily

Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:15:30 2018 No.10090729

>>10090681
it could be.
the whole reason i didnt step in today was cuz i had my hands full trading GBR like a mad man, and was working on getting a good position on my bond short.

but i was under the impression that this squeeze right before the weekend was actually a cleverly disgused expensive bag auction for people trying to get out before the r/s, so i steered clear. well see on monday whether you guys have been had

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:21:42 2018 No.10090795 >>10090711 At the end of the day it is only 500

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:25:17 2018 No.10090823 Stop investing in fucking meme companies to try to earn quick easy money. Go blow your money at a casino if that's your game. Invest in real companies that you believe in. Stay for the long haul, get rich.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:29:04 2018 No.10090866 >>10090729 I'm not in yet. I might day trade a couple times to try my hand with lady luck, but my main purchase is going to be at $0.25 after the reverse split.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:30:56 2018 No.10090889 >>10090823 'no' You actually have a real chance at getting rich with meme stocks if you do it right. Casinos are under entirely controlled conditions, even the few games of skill.

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Fri Jun 29 23:31:38 2018 No.10090897

>>10090313
That's where I was going with the momentum idea, rather than faggotry flow index

>>10090406
Holy shit, Cramer's advice isn't just bad, it's fucking loaded against you. You might actually be better off inversing his fucking recommendations.
>>10090475
Yeah, that's fucking wild. What the fuck.

Any more crash porn? This is wild shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:32:53 2018 No.10090909 >>10090897 Top 10 anime comebacks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86g4_w4j3jU

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Fri Jun 29 23:33:27 2018 No.10090912 >>10090897 Cramer is losing his shit in the beginning is amazing. Suddenly I love him I'M PRO CRAMER NOW

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Fri Jun 29 23:36:58 2018 No.10090946 File: 127 KB, 601x508, EKuTQlV.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10090897 @4:18 >the CEOs face

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:37:01 2018 No.10090949 >>10090889 >>10090823 or... You could just swing trade 4-6% a week with trusted companies best of both worlds

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:37:24 2018 No.10090952 File: 451 KB, 800x1065, e50f9cc188ac83db60da7dec8a396193.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Late night anime posting time

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:39:52 2018 No.10090979 File: 69 KB, 472x472, 1530305797931.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So did anyone load up on HMNY when it was $0.18?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:40:51 2018 No.10090989 File: 1.73 MB, 720x1080, 342fa3b746ad057eaff6d0c475a71ab3e0cd5e682b6e05f509bf9bad6d2311fc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10090979 No but I'm itching for dirt cheap puts.

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Fri Jun 29 23:41:16 2018 No.10090993 Here's Cramer recommending buying Bearsterns ULTIMATE KEK https://youtu.be/NkytKDzCEeU?t=52s

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:41:41 2018 No.10090997 >>10090979 NO IM NEVER BUYING THAT GOD DAMN PIECE OF SHIT EVER AGAIN

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:42:31 2018 No.10091000 >>10090949 Anything is better than playing shit stocks like your playing fucking roulette. I just don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:45:41 2018 No.10091033 >>10091000 If someone is good at roulette, why wouldn't they take advantage of that fact?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:48:24 2018 No.10091062 File: 36 KB, 200x146, 1477675252978.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10090997 Me neither, man. Me neither.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:49:42 2018 No.10091072 >>10090997 same

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:52:13 2018 No.10091093 >>10090997 >>10091062 >>10091072 >they said 2 weeks before fomoing back in

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Fri Jun 29 23:55:29 2018 No.10091121 File: 14 KB, 859x425, averages.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091062 >>10091072 >>10091093 Look at the average share price. Look at how much they've lost

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:57:09 2018 No.10091136 >>10091121 It's going to go down to 99% I'm sure. That just means there's more money for you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 29 23:58:09 2018 No.10091145 >>10091121 Also how do you see Robinhood statistics like this? I have Robinhood web and can't find this kind of information on it.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:00:21 2018 No.10091164

>>10091121
Yeah, I learned my lesson. And I actually managed to get out without being burned too badly when it spiked the other week, but I've learned my lesson. It was my first week trading and I didn't even look at the chart. Booted it off my watchlist as soon as I did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:01:46 2018 No.10091180 >>10091164 Are you the guy I literally told not to put your money anywhere near HMNY? This kind of shit is not for new investors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:03:01 2018 No.10091194 >>10091180 Nope. My first trading day was June 11, and I've been keeping my mouth shut for the most part.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:05:01 2018 No.10091206 Hmny and GE... holy shit the transaction history. GE is like the girl that continuously breaks your heart over and over...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:06:12 2018 No.10091223 File: 163 KB, 813x551, pink_wojak_mask.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091093 Ha, I paid only $0.65/share.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:06:31 2018 No.10091225 I got in day of the crash in February what a rough start but had a lot of fun

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:06:53 2018 No.10091228

>>10086895
>brought to you by guilt(tm)
I know that feeling all too well, senpai.
Also, rkg talked about thirsty boys on tinder, made jokes about period blood, and a comment about crusty panties (when her SPY short was profitable) that just show imo too much of a knack for staying in character for being a dude.
RKG has stayed flawlessly in character (to my knowledge) for at least an entire fucking month, including "mistaken" posts of self pics or info while maintaining an image in the threads of poor communication skills
If RKG is a dude, at this point, it's an autisticly dedicated dude

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:08:07 2018 No.10091237 In light of the good vibes that we are feeling I have a few questions. I am relatively new to trading stocks, not looking to day trade. Does anyone have any recxomendations in long term stock holds? All advice will be appreciated. Good vibes to all

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:10:05 2018 No.10091253 >>10091121 ARE YOU TRYING TO TRIGGER MY PTSD? FUCK YOU

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:11:39 2018 No.10091272 >>10091033 >Good at roulette. Confirmed retarded

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:13:39 2018 No.10091287

>>10091272
I'm sure there's professional gamblers who have excellent strategies for roulette. I'm not saying being good at roulette is getting it right every time, but getting it right more often than typical people and adjusting your bet amounts right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:13:51 2018 No.10091290 File: 1.36 MB, 719x1377, Nico hair curler.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091237 Invest in consumer staples and hi yields. Not tech.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:14:21 2018 No.10091294 >>10090979 I lost $600 on that piece of trash I feel for the meme, feels bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:15:35 2018 No.10091301 File: 1.73 MB, 336x304, 1516218272833.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10090952 yay!

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:15:48 2018 No.10091303
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>>10090912
>Cramer is losing his shit in the beginning is amazing. Suddenly I love him
It looked autistic to me. I agree with the other Anon on how he was commenting on Bernanke.
I'm really, really happy we have a strong leader like Jerome Powell instead of a little baby ass cuck like Greenspan that shrouds himself with idiotic shit like "irrational exuberance"
>I'M PRO CRAMER NOW
>mfw

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:16:18 2018 No.10091305 File: 515 KB, 323x323, 30d0f63d8ded352d9c81322052a2b149a48e8e7b01893bac8006ea6cea0b461a.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091294 Buy puts on the top and make it all back then some. Just wait for IV to bleed off some.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:17:50 2018 No.10091318 >>10091303 >I'M PRO CRAMER NOW I have always been. He's an unapologetic shark. I like his sincerity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:18:15 2018 No.10091320 File: 114 KB, 427x294, wrangler.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] green week next week

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:18:41 2018 No.10091324

>>10091290
THIS.
I bought UDOW. You can go for high leverage and "growth" via warped value investing without going for tech

>>10091272
Idk man, I've had a chick tell me that I'm pretty good at spinning my dick, so I feel like it's not that far out to say that one can be good at spinning a fucking wheel on a table too

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:20:19 2018 No.10091337 File: 230 KB, 818x1440, animu3Dno.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10090952 Deal!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:21:09 2018 No.10091348 >>10091290 Any examples? No amd?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:21:29 2018 No.10091351 File: 447 KB, 1024x724, 1427923727908.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091337

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:21:53 2018 No.10091355 >>10091305 I think ITM puts are better on HMNY than OTM. The one dollar puts look pretty good. You can still get fucked, but the OTM puts have nastier greeks

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:22:47 2018 No.10091366 File: 1.08 MB, 1355x1900, 1193b6b5c77972ce0009f8f40ab7d3fe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091348 Too tired to get u examples stuck on a bus at 1221 use google u twat

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:23:01 2018 No.10091371 >>10091145 It should just show up on the stock page if you scroll down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:23:53 2018 No.10091382 File: 1.73 MB, 500x261, smug.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091355 Nigger you're gonna be selling them immediately after it dumps good anyway

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:24:32 2018 No.10091389 >>10091355 holy fuck that thing has options? if i would've know that i would've been buying stock, selling OTM calls and OTM puts all day..

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:25:36 2018 No.10091401 File: 1.18 MB, 874x757, book.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091351 /comfy nicos/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:26:19 2018 No.10091406 File: 66 KB, 640x900, Q8Fg1ce_d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091401 Start posting faggot u got some good ones

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:26:21 2018 No.10091407

>>10091371
All I have below the chart is "About" "History" and "People Also Bought". There's also an empty category that says "Collections", is that where this kind of information normally shows up? I have my adblock disabled and everything. Still not seeing shit.

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 00:30:58 2018 No.10091446 File: 355 KB, 708x702, 1507573118013.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091272 >>10091287 >pro gambler PRO GAMBLER YOU SAY??

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:31:32 2018 No.10091453 File: 281 KB, 1024x724, 1518806507891.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091406 I tyhink her birthday is coming up next month

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:31:48 2018 No.10091457 >>10091401 >>10091406 >>10091366 >>10091351 >>10091337 >>10091305 >>10091301 >>10091290 moar!

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:32:57 2018 No.10091467

>>10091389
Yeah, and you'd have made a killing selling to suckers like me who spent about a hundred bucks on those exact OTM options in a straddle/strangle because they don't fucking understand IV
Now, I always look at the break-even price and consider how likely it is to happen.
I also need to start mathing out shit for selling options instead

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:33:46 2018 No.10091477 File: 84 KB, 640x900, TRbKupM_d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091453 Yep I'm trying to load up

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:34:36 2018 No.10091484 File: 101 KB, 1609x797, IQ Finding the bottom.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10090536 Time for everyone to FOMO in to IQ, the Chinese Netflix.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:36:50 2018 No.10091509 File: 435 KB, 512x720, 1519793963912.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091477 Numbah one Idolsan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9WK9dNSO8w

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:37:33 2018 No.10091513 >>10091366 Recommendations, not a twat. And what is the 1112?

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:38:29 2018 No.10091520 File: 39 KB, 720x537, 069963FC-93E7-4797-A528-C3EBC478F8DF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091446 Haha fucking kek

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:39:23 2018 No.10091525
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>>10091513
I'm going to sleep and might give u recs later if im generous

Use weekend for due diligence, I gave u sectors so look for good looking stocks ubder those criteria

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:40:05 2018 No.10091538 File: 68 KB, 474x414, 1524865556802.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091484 I keep reading IQIYI as 'Ikea'. Long cheap furniture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:40:48 2018 No.10091546 Who /3x leveraged small cap bull etfs/ here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:41:39 2018 No.10091555 >>10091546 i rather make money desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:41:58 2018 No.10091558 >>10091513 GIS and SBUX and air products

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:42:43 2018 No.10091564 File: 42 KB, 680x746, 1520170181007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091382 Fact. >pic related is my waifu: RKG

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:43:09 2018 No.10091569 >>10091558 I bought long calls for starbucks moment they crashed about 11% and i'm down 50%..fuck my life

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:44:12 2018 No.10091581 >>10091569 lol for future reference things tend to slide further after dropping 10% and never use options

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 00:45:32 2018 No.10091590 File: 351 KB, 500x500, 1524540125203.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091520

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:54:32 2018 No.10091674
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>>10091581
>lol for future reference things tend to slide further after dropping 10%
Hmmmmm...
>Buy puts on the very bottom of each of the 50 or so corrections of SPY since WWII
>This is definitely a profitable strategy
This really makes me think...

>and never use options
Well that's a fact tho.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:55:17 2018 No.10091679 >>10091569 welcome to the club

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:55:32 2018 No.10091680 File: 149 KB, 500x500, 12123123453456.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091525

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:56:35 2018 No.10091687 >>10091674 I mean after earnings report when something drops 10%, it continues to slide down Very rarely it bounces back the next day

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:56:37 2018 No.10091688 File: 676 KB, 2560x2560, 2F04937E-57B0-49B1-BF42-1AFFD5AD60B8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091538 Same.

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 00:57:23 2018 No.10091694 File: 82 KB, 600x750, 4chan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm greatful for /smg/, it's nice to be with other autists in a great big internet friend simulator <3

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 00:58:49 2018 No.10091705 File: 77 KB, 245x225, 1530271390525.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091680 howd you get this picture of my gf

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 00:59:12 2018 No.10091710
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>>10091687
Well, there's this thing called a dead cat bounce, but I do agree
And I think it's stupid to try to buy even shares in an attempt to time profiting off a dead cat bounce -- taking a bullish strategy on a falling knife is working with a casino tilted against you

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:00:30 2018 No.10091716 >>10091694 yeah.. i'm getting a little tired of these anime fags though How's that RAD going? that knife is only gunna get sharper.. i tell you what..

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:01:29 2018 No.10091722 >>10091687 nothing has really changed. Their earnings were solid but they gave poor guidance. My mistake was not buying LEAPS or the stock itself.. I just wanted to sell the quick bump up because i thought a 12% drop was an overreaction.

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:03:00 2018 No.10091734 File: 18 KB, 184x184, 1527967884438.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091694 What a beautiful picture. >>10091705 You posted it? She's kawaii. Saved, senpai.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:03:33 2018 No.10091738 >>10091722 It is an overreaction and will probably bounce back to 55

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:05:16 2018 No.10091752 File: 49 KB, 500x393, 1527913516267.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091716

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:07:18 2018 No.10091766 >>10091716 we're not friends >>10091734 Snapped that photo with Ratsu at the Queen Mary Fun times! they say its haunted but sound more like random ship noises

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:08:32 2018 No.10091771

are you guys gunna be here all weekend? i was going to do some more DD on LCI take some notes and post it here.. only if you guys are interested.. if not i'm just going to do the DD and keep it all in my head

>>10091766
i really don't really care if some anime fag wants to be my friend or not...

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:10:00 2018 No.10091780

>>10091771
>are you guys gunna be here all weekend? i was going to do some more DD on LCI take some notes and post it here.. only if you guys are interested.. if not i'm just going to do the DD and keep it all in my head

Yeah go for it. I would be happy to read.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:11:47 2018 No.10091795 File: 560 KB, 569x569, 1527033665313.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Conangra buys Pinnacle foods time to start buying CAG

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:14:27 2018 No.10091821
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>>10091716
3D girls have literal shit inside of them, which is absolutely disgusting.
It is only logical to prefer their 2D alternatives.

Side note:
What's this -> ?
OwO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:16:10 2018 No.10091839 File: 165 KB, 500x935, anime_girls.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091564 >kneepads could be a girl

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:18:14 2018 No.10091846
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>>10091771
Well, I plan on working on my ML alg like every other weekend, but I will most likely just shitpost instead.
But most importantly, I am still single and my dislike for being out in public borders on agoraphobia, so you can basically count on me viewing this thread for 47 of this weekend's 48 hours, as per usual

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:22:52 2018 No.10091892 >>10091846 >ML alg whats that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:27:48 2018 No.10091931 >>10091892 My Little Algorithm. It's his idea he's trying to market to Robinhood to attract child investors.

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:28:43 2018 No.10091940
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>>10091839
I see that you haven't read the thread
>>10091228
From my experience talking to and being around the 6-9 girls I've dated over the last 5 years or so, for RKG to not be a girl at this point would mean that RKG is autistically dedicated to staying in character because they've kept up the act in a few more nuanced ways for more than an entire month

Quick reminder:
What's this -> ?
OwO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:29:17 2018 No.10091944 >>10091931 i'd really like to learn how to program an algo and implement it.. how can i start?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:30:07 2018 No.10091952 >>10091944 I dunno. I would say ask 2 Scoops, but he seems to only like to work with children.

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:32:00 2018 No.10091962
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>>10091892
Machine learning algorithm
There was a retired quant on here a few weeks back.
I'm actually going to get on a call with a friend from college to work on it tomorrow. I'm pretty serious about trying to make this shit happen, but the data cleaning process is crucial and mega fucked

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:33:39 2018 No.10091976 >>10091944 I had a super long set of posts I gave to RKG a while ago. Give me a minute to fish it out. I think the info is 3 posts long

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:38:08 2018 No.10092008

>Helped fren figure out some real estate KPI with Weka, that's about it. Would show but it not loading right now for some reason...

That's fine if you can't pull it up.

Was just interested in your background here, since it didn't fit with the whole hooker story.

>Am very amature at programming and using ML in general. Background is network admin.

>But it's very obvious ML is future and me desperately trying learn it. That one main reason why taking up trading so seriously. It's way to get practical practice doing math and programming.

I can't help much with the learning programming part, but thankfully ML is one of the least intensive areas for "software engineering" knowledge -- most of the good code is written by mathematical wizards that only picked up coding for their PhD, with little knowledge of object-oriented shit, algorithms w/ big O notation, or really anything that people in the industry with a bachelor's in CS take pride in.

Most of the good shit written for data science is completely procedural with high-school student levels of architecture and design.

So, if you can write a nasty, disgusting 100 line python hack that would make a "real" software engineer puke -- you are good to go!

Now here's the part that I love.

Academia can't teach ML for the industry. Too hung up on theory. I took 2-3 grad. courses on ML, and learned much more practical shit from blog posts and doing personal project type stuff.

You can get stupendously, ridiculously far without knowing any of the underlying math. That shit only helps if you are a deep learning wizard.

So, I can't provide good resources for learning programming itself because I'm unfortunately too much of a wizard by now to help there. But, not much programming skill is necessary. And, ML has a lower barrier to entry than advertised.

Learning resources next:

(PART 1)

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:39:58 2018 No.10092021

Learning resources that I really do use:

>scikit-learn.org
the super friendly website for my favorite ML library. It's a Swiss army knife of all kinds of ML approaches and models. Guess what. You can throw an SVM together without knowing how to do the nonlinear separating hyperplane trick by hand. I know how to do the nonlinear separating hyperplane trick by hand. I have never needed to do that.
They have so many sick little scripts and tutorials and references that their site is actually my primary point of learning practical ML from.
>kaggle
ML competitions. I don't do them, but it's a great source for datasets to practice on, and people will post sample scripts of their submissions, which I use as a guiding template.
Some guy somewhere on there shows exactly how to train an RNN on daily price action for stocks. (I don't like this approach and am unsatisfied with his results.)
>Quantopian
non-ML algorithmic trading strategies. It can integrate with Robinhood and has examples of stuff like momentum trading. I don't want to be locked into their platform, and I'm using ML, which isn't their target audience, so not for me.
>machinelearningmastery.com
a real grand wizard's blog post that I've started picking up some theory stuff from. (Needed to learn PCA, and sklearn site was unsatisfactory.)
>thepatternsite.com
where I like to learn about TA and FA from.
>financial-hacker.com-- smaller resource. I've been using it a tad this week to help with my latest project. Has some good research paper references.

(PART 2)

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:41:39 2018 No.10092031

Data sources that I use:
>Quandl (paid, supposedly super good)
>ycharts (free trial)
>stockrow (free so far)
>Quantopian (very free, but feels like vendor lock-in, not ML oriented)
>Kaggle (very free, feels absolutely not vendor lock-in, but lower quality data sets, very ML oriented)
>Interactive Brokers API -- the retired quant. said that this is what his live system uses
>Stooq -- have used this. Get straight CSV dataset downloads. Very limited info, but at least it's something.
I took my first stab with Quantopian, I get scripts from kaggle, have used data from Stooq, currently plan to use data from stockrow next, then Interactive Brokers if ever close to a very solid & unchanging gameplan

(PART 3)

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:46:13 2018 No.10092053

>>10091944
Here you go:
>>10092008
>>10092021
>>10092031
Sorry it still looks tailored for RKG, it's probably a straight copy and paste.
The 2nd and 3rd posts are probably more so helpful than the 1st... You're pretty fucked if you've never written a line of code in your life.
There's kind of a split in algorithmic trading: most is non-ML and is shit like momentum trading (just use quantopian), but I'm doing ML which is definitely a small minority of trading algs and what quants will touch

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:49:29 2018 No.10092076

>>10092031
>>10092021
>>10092008
thanks

saving that into notepad forsure.. theres a chat with traders where a guy is talking about ML alg and how now to implement it (atleast on european markets) you have to go through some eurpean regulations.. like your algo has to be tested to their regulations i'm going to try and find it

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 01:55:50 2018 No.10092116

>>10092076
>you have to go through some eurpean regulations.. like your algo has to be tested to their regulations i'm going to try and find it
Ha! With what my plan is, they would never be able to tell if I was using an algorithm. But yeah, back-testing is essential and it does sound like a good video. I'll try to find that and watch it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 01:59:57 2018 No.10092134 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1012830881461907457

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 02:01:54 2018 No.10092149 >>10092116 yeah theres no way i'm going to find it, i thought it was a semi new one, but you might want to look into it i don't think the u.s. will be far behind with regulations on algos and yes even small algos.. it was an interesting interview

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 02:11:45 2018 No.10092216 File: 250 KB, 1190x922, 1521557102146.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just another day holding AMZN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 02:14:23 2018 No.10092229 >>10092134 Does he... he knows what he just did there, right?

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 02:14:48 2018 No.10092231 File: 125 KB, 1855x763, adsfsfsfsfsf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10092216 Amazon crashing soon

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 02:15:54 2018 No.10092242 >>10092229 HE'S GIVING AWAY 5000 ETHEREUM

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 02:23:09 2018 No.10092285 >>10092231 scary triangles

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 02:24:51 2018 No.10092296 >>10091538 >>10091688 You buying in or not?

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jun 30 02:52:53 2018 No.10092430 File: 324 KB, 800x670, 1515459710062.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10091446

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 02:55:55 2018 No.10092441

>>10091324
screw the DOW rn desu senpai
the russell is where the uninterrupted action has been these last few months, and it just got rebalanced, so will likely continue to outperform these overinflated major indices

>>10091771
i might strat it up here this weekend too desu
all my shit worked perfectly last week cuz i took the time to prepare, and running it across these fuckers first yields helpful input imo

>>10092231
>institutional money leaving AMZN
damn
there really is ALWAYS someone holding the bags, and its ALWAYS retail
we need to watch THIS one. if it keeps widening, imo, abandon all FANG stocks. those will be HEAVY bags.

>>10092134
whadiditellya? guy is inviting shorts in to squeeze em to prop it up a little more. just like last 5 times.

btw, does anyone know where i can get access to specific corporate bond yields in chart form? i wanna compare TSLA ones w the junk bond index. if i can screen out the extremely high debt companies ones whose bonds are doing substantially worse than the mean, we could find some EXCELLENT tech shorts

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 03:07:03 2018 No.10092491
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>>10092441
man what a shitty looking chart for bonds. looks like they topped out again and now yields are blowing out again. thats not good at all. once these bonds get enough hair on em, NO ONE will wanna touch em. especially not if they manage to slide down that far TWICE in 6 months. fuck, youd be better off holding argentinian bonds at this point

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 03:42:50 2018 No.10092676 >>10092441 I want to short NFLX after their earnings but I am a gambling addict and can't find anything that is as ez mone as UVXY puts.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 03:59:49 2018 No.10092752

>>10092676
lemme check their junk bonds.
they have an unfathomable amount of debt. i think NN repeal will destroy their profitability too. lol and now thy have a fucking CP scandal going

btw, thats not the bond chart for TSLA hold on

>can't find anything that is as ez mone as UVXY puts.
i like VXX puts better but theyre a bit more money. they go up quicker though. especially wen UVXY is this low

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 04:10:07 2018 No.10092806
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>>10092676
heres TSLA
looks like fucking total shit. looks like i dont have a way to view the price or yield over time tho

the stock will catch up to this though. this type of action in the hi yield market always forecasts major problems. i was short HYG all week and half of last. the whole hi yield market is breaking down desu
i gotta find NFLX bond CUSIP numbers, but im kinda outta my element so gimme a sec

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 04:11:54 2018 No.10092819 >>10092676 i had no idea TSLAs moody rating was such shit. that stock is gonna crash and burn in the most spectacular way

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 04:24:07 2018 No.10092876 FUG does anyone know how to look up what CUSIP numbers are for specific corporate bonds?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 04:24:29 2018 No.10092879

>>10092819
Hope so, I am short. But if it doesn't tank after they miss this next target, I might just cover.. Too much capital tied up in a stock whose price does not reflect the underlying company's performance. Elon Musk gets away with murder because some humans were meant to be exploitable cultist drones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 04:26:33 2018 No.10092891 >>10092806 I knew it was bad but god damn. Literally junk bonds.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 04:31:27 2018 No.10092922

>>10092879
ye i really honestly think hes been doin a carefully orchestrated dance w the media to get retail to keep shorting his stock. then he writes puts and gets it squeezed and stays afloat. the stock is worth nothin. how many of those squeezes you held through though? that shit must be brutal

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 04:32:29 2018 No.10092927 >>10092879 *writes puts then take the cash and pumps them OTM by "buybacks" lol its a fucking scam

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 05:26:53 2018 No.10093173 File: 1.85 MB, 2124x1062, 1505261643696.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10090536 short everything. prove me wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 07:14:10 2018 No.10093771 So what do you guys think about ford? It seems the stock is worth buying if it dips a bit more.

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jun 30 07:26:57 2018 No.10093854 File: 687 KB, 1410x2396, 20180630_062430.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Plan 4 2 day LMA & 200MA about for cross Significanting solid down trend

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 07:31:01 2018 No.10093880 >>10093854 oh sweety...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 07:45:13 2018 No.10093979 File: 762 KB, 783x994, 1528953963161.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So, what's /smg/stance on Nintendo? Did we reach a bottom? I'd be only in for speculating, holding 6-9 months max.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 07:46:10 2018 No.10093983 >>10093854 Are the markets even open today? rkg I think you've been playing too much AA. Play Bless with me instead!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 08:10:02 2018 No.10094107 HOLY SHIT TIME TO SHORT OIL SELL SELL SELL https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1013023608040513537

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 08:25:50 2018 No.10094189 File: 186 KB, 1024x1024, Nico Business.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10094107 Finally

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 08:29:00 2018 No.10094203 File: 1.14 MB, 736x1081, DgrUVxAV4AAl1mU[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10094189 unironically set myself a reminder for 4am monday morning fucking trump lmao dropping this tweet on a saturday

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 08:29:41 2018 No.10094206 >>10094203 if i had access to futures id do something sunday night 8pm

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 08:39:26 2018 No.10094257 >>10094107 USO BTFO Thank god I sold.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 08:53:12 2018 No.10094346 >>10094107 >prices to high

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 08:54:04 2018 No.10094351 >>10094346 cant wait to see what QAnon does with this

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jun 30 09:25:28 2018 No.10094606 File: 68 KB, 554x439, 1521596110399.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10093983 Losing it Bless & BDO = Archeage ripoffs! Playoriginal with ME !

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 09:35:53 2018 No.10094685 >>10092296 Why would you buy stock in a chink fraudulent company??

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jun 30 09:39:52 2018 No.10094717 File: 614 KB, 1428x2340, 20180630_083907.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10094107 >prices too high people unironically bought SPY @ $280

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 10:16:43 2018 No.10095002 >>10094685 Cause exponential adoption by chinks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 10:21:03 2018 No.10095034 File: 26 KB, 396x400, 1410278013881.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10094107 >Prices to high! what did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 10:27:44 2018 No.10095088 >>10094606 Alright I'm down to try it again while I wait for new Bless content. I use to play back when Hasla was the end game gear... What server and faction?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 10:39:16 2018 No.10095184 if i think a crash is imminent how can i make the most money off 500 bucks?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 10:53:37 2018 No.10095320 >>10095184 if you think you can accomplish anything with 500 bucks you should probably not be here

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 10:57:23 2018 No.10095343 >>10095184 Deep OTM SPXS Calls

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 10:59:49 2018 No.10095360 >>10095343 how much could that potentially make, ballpark?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:04:00 2018 No.10095399 >>10095360 10k The probability of this trade making money is like 0%

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:06:54 2018 No.10095424 >>10095360 Depends. If we're talking about 2008 crash like 200k If we're talking a small correction like 10k You need to have a magic ball to hope to make any money on this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:12:41 2018 No.10095469 >>10094107 I ended up shorting crude with only half, other half is still shorting stocks I just couldn't not short the market as well, that fucking candle man

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:19:17 2018 No.10095519 >>10094107 >>10094189 >>10094189 >>10094203 >>10094206 >>10094257 >>10094346 >>10094717 >>10095034 >>10095469 oil is going to 100 a barrel.. fall for the smoke and mirrors kids.. fall for the smoke and mirrors

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:20:43 2018 No.10095529 >>10094107 >there are people ITT right now who voted for this man >>>>>>>>>>cocksucking the saudis EVEN MORE than he already was

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:21:56 2018 No.10095539 >>10095519 based on what? Your feelings?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:25:45 2018 No.10095578 >>10094107 >>10094107 is OPEC dead then?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:27:39 2018 No.10095596

>>10095539
inflation. it has been over 100 before and will get there again. population is only growing not getting smaller you think demand is shrinking? lol more and more people driving every day using products that have substances extracted from oils.

If you think oil is going to be any cheaper than the fucking barrel that it's being held in you are fucking foolish. Think logically about it you retarded faggot think about how much inflation has happend since 2007-2008... its a commodity it's traded in a lot longer time than a stock, think about how much products and labor have gone up in the past 10 years.. you think oil isn't going to follow suit? come on now.. use your brain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:29:42 2018 No.10095614 >>10095424 fug which one should i buy though? don't know enough about options. the jan 2019 are the latest ones but i don't know how far out of the money i should choose. i think things are going in the shitter though

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:32:04 2018 No.10095637 >>10095596 cringe do you even trade crude? You sound like an 8th grader making an argument for a paper regardless, I only care about a move to 72/70, I don't care what direction it goes after I get my money

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:33:41 2018 No.10095650 >>10095637 cool fucking arguement bro.. i can see you tried.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:35:54 2018 No.10095667 >>10090536 Britbongs should be signing up for freetrade.io launching soon :)

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:37:49 2018 No.10095676
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>>10095519
no its going to 75 over the weekend and the dump will commence tomorrow or early AM on monday, before markets open. the only people till long oil (and doing it over the weekend ffs) are retail tards that have never traded oil. hell, even RHers are FOMOing into it, since equities are so broken. big boys will dump all over everyones head and oil will crash below 70/brl by wednesday. possibly even sooner depending on the level of panic

i agree that the longterm oil will be CRUSHING it this year due to runaway inflation and think were entering an episode not unlike pic related. but in the near term, the trade is likely going to be short oil

personally, i think this ha to do with KSA wanting to keep oil prices somewhat up for the time bing, but also bring them back down to unprofitable levels for KSAs enemies, whove recently stepped up production (iran, russia, even syria and the kurds)

>>10095578
OPEC kinda gets dragged along like a mother drags her kid through a shopping mall. they dont wanna go there, but mommy is making them. OPEC desperately wants oil prices up so that their countries can be profitable once again. but momma KSA has to make sure that they maintain the monopoly, and is crashing it down a little to fuck with iran and russias profitability.

theres actually a substantial aount of tension, from what i hear, between OPEC countries and the KSA. KSA does shit like this and acts out alone all the time. they did it in 2014, much to the dismay of OPEC, and theyll do it again. the caveat here, is that thy still need oil up for the ARAMCO IPO later this summer. im certain theyll have it back up at some point this year. or like i said above, inflation will unravel and all commodities prices will soar.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:39:02 2018 No.10095690

>>10095650

you're a monkey. Your argument is basically

>dude oil is like used for stuff so like its gotta go up to $100, a random and arbitrary number I decided it's worth based on the fact that like dude it's used for so much stuff like its a commodity man xD

With the introduction of shale the cost of production has decreased exceptionally, dumb faggot. It's not 2005 anymore. US producers can easily pump for profit at $40. The only reason oil is as high as it is right now isn't because of muh inflation or muh population!!!! It's just the fact that shit is hitting the fan in traditional oil producing countries, and less supply = higher price, If Venezuela was actually pumping oil would be 60. If there was no Iran sanction bullshit, 50s

why am I even wasting time with somebody who doesn't even trade it???? Don't reply to me again

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:43:16 2018 No.10095733

>>10095690
lol i cant really blame anyone for not trading oil tho. its a pretty brutal game. i like it, but im a masochist that likes this kind of risk.

anyways im of the camp that thinks itll runaway from itself due to inflation (see the pic i posted above). also demand has been higher than anyones expectations. last OPEC meeting was an announcement to greatly step UP production, and instead of crashing we got this run. well have to see how demand shifts once we pass the traditional peak of the year

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:43:39 2018 No.10095735

>>10095690
>>10095676
yes like ((they)) aren't going to try to trap shorts in their charades. You guys are the retail traders these guys play 3d chess and are going to play you like a fiddle when you go to short it.. but hey have fun you retards think short term while these billionaires think on a larger scale.

>>10095690
so you are saying it's going to be cheaper because production is cheaper? lmao you mean to say that they haven't found a way to make iphones cheap but the retail price never rises??? hmmm.... kys you stupid faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:44:47 2018 No.10095747 >>10095690 >>10095676 maybe you guys should take a basic macro economics class

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:48:50 2018 No.10095779 >>10095676 my bad.. i agree with you.. on most parts.. its this guy >>10095690 thats a faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:50:09 2018 No.10095792 >>10095779 whatever you think for the long term is fine but oil is going down when trading opens its undeniable dont ignore trump tweets

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:50:29 2018 No.10095793
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>>10095735
>yes like ((they)) aren't going to try to trap shorts in their charades. You guys are the retail traders these guys play 3d chess and are going to play you like a fiddle when you go to short it.. but hey have fun you retards think short term while these billionaires think on a larger scale.
lol dont get so defensive m8 im watching the futures guys for my short term stuff, and watching EVERYTHING ELSE thats going on for my longterm plays (which if you read what i said, im obviously still bullish on).

fact of the matter is, its mostly retail buying up at these prices, and the futures guys cashed out at the last peak to mitigate risk. ive traded oil and know all about their little headfakes. but first (before mugging early shorts) they are going to mug the FOMOers.

>>10095747
>>10095779
lol
i was about to say
read again, im mostly agreeing w you

still saying this week is a bloodbath for late arrivers. this tweet is just the first shot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:54:31 2018 No.10095829 >>10095793 yeah no.. sorry that other guy is a fucking faggot that is talking as if oil is going to go back down to $50 because production is cheaper lol

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:54:39 2018 No.10095830

>>10095735

>yes like ((they)) aren't going to try to trap shorts in their charades

go look at the COT, stupid faggot. Long is the overcrowded trade in crude. Oil has the biggest long crowd it's had in literally years. There are no """"shorts"""" to trap. IT'S ALL LONG

>so you are saying it's going to be cheaper because production is cheaper?

uhh, yeah, that's how it works, dumb fuck. You can't expect the price range of 15 years ago when we have technology that exponentially supersedes production from back then. The US can pump more oil with 200 rigs today than they could with 900 rigs before shale, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about

Do you know what increased the price of oil from approximately 64 a little while ago to 74? No, you probably didn't even know oil went to 64 because you don't fucking trade it. You're a normie, you don't know shit, your opinion on CL is worthless. It went up because OPEC agreed production was less than expected and more Iran sanction shit

Oil caps at 80 this year

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 11:59:05 2018 No.10095865

>>10095830
so you are saying the even with them finding cheap and efficient ways to grow and harvest food as well as raise animals that food hasn't got any cheaper even though the cost of producing the food has gone down??? is that what you are saying? You are saying they found a way to make electronics very cheap such as the iphone but yet the price never rises?

You are a fucking idiot. seriously.. you are fucking retarded... think about what you are saying...

You think that the price of something will go down because the cost of production will go down? did you just pass high school or someshit?? they have been finding ways to produce for cheap for hundreds of years.. guess what?? the price of those things continue to rise as they find cheaper ways to produce it.

This is business they are looking at increasing profit margins, they aren't going to pass along the savings of their cost of production onto the consumer.. this is business kid leave your emotions back at mommy and daddies.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:00:33 2018 No.10095875

>>10095830
>Long is the overcrowded trade in crude
check this pic of robinhood traders vs price of USO lol
>>10095793

those poor kids...
they are gonna get theyre paddys whacked by a bunch of GS goons lol

what do you have to say about the runaway inflation argument? >>10095676
ive noticed, that every time we get this tandem movement in the dollar and commodities prices eventually the dollar gives up, and all commodities soar. then they peak and we short the shit out of everything. literally

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:06:08 2018 No.10095916

>>10095865

dude why are you even posting such trivial shit like this? How the hell does this support your claim for $100 oil???? If you think more production = higher price I don't know what the fuck to tell you. The price isn't high because of PRODUCTION, it's because of SUPPLY TIGHTNESS due to GEOPOLITICS

GEOPOLITICS are why oil is high, and if you think it goes higher, you bet entirely on GEOPOLITICS. The s/d tightness determines the price, not people randomly raising the prices like you think happens??

>This is business they are looking at increasing profit margins

just fuckin lol dude, im outta here. Stick to stocks

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:08:22 2018 No.10095929

>>10095916
>just fuckin lol dude, im outta here. Stick to stocks
cool.. fucking leave you are retarded as fuck anyway. keep looking at the chart and don't research anything about inflation or any basic economics you sound like a complete fucking newfag and this thread will be better off without such a retard in it.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:12:23 2018 No.10095959
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Fuck!!! What do I do with my $15 7/13 uso calls??

Anon yesterday said wait until the 3rd, just put in order in to sell first thing Monday AM. Sell or hold? I’m just a dumb crypto trader, new to this shit.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:15:01 2018 No.10095976

>>10095916
>>10095929
lol
not even trying to be a radical centrist, but both of yall are right. oil is gonna crash down lower than anyone thought possible in the near term, and then pop back up later past anyones wildest expectaions

>>10095959
dude off those things as quick as you can. literally sell on the bell no matter WHAT it looks like.

also since youre a newbie and no ones given you "the talk":
DONT TRADE OPTIONS THAT CLOSE TO EXPIRY. EVER. DONT EVEN TOUCH THEM IN THE LAST MONTH OF THEIR EXPIRY. ESPECIALLY NOT OTM ONES

SAVE YOURSELF. TRADE DERIVATIVES W A FEW MONTHS ON THEM

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:17:20 2018 No.10095992

>>10095959
>Anon yesterday said wait until the 3rd
we thought yesterday that you were someone who understood derivatives. we didnt assume you were trading contracts that close to expiry. just off em no matter what on open, or your first "win" will turn into a total loss, as you will be goldman SACH'd

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:19:04 2018 No.10096012 >>10095976 I only trade short term options because I never intend to exercise, just sell off when they become green. Usually at least 4 or 5 weeks before expiry so people are willing to buy them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:21:36 2018 No.10096026 >>10096012 Also only trade options on stocks where they are liquid. Talking tens of thousands of open interest and hundreds of daily volume on said options.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:21:55 2018 No.10096027

>>10096012
>I only trade short term options because I never intend to exercise
Totally irrelevant
You can trade long term options without the intention to exercice

Think of the higher price you pay on longer term/more moneyness options as "quality" and "value preservatives"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:23:59 2018 No.10096049 >>10096027 Thats a poor strategy when you use options to leverage your trades.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:25:10 2018 No.10096069 >>10096049 Yes, true If you want leverage, cheap options are the way to go

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:26:00 2018 No.10096073 >>10096069 Why would you trade options any other way lmao

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:27:01 2018 No.10096078

>>10096012
>I only trade short term options because I never intend to exercise
other than hedgies or rare circumstances, NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE

seriously m8, im telling you this for your own good. do NOT trade derivatives until you understand them FULLY. and i dont mean to sound mean, but you clearly have no idea how they work. please save yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:27:08 2018 No.10096080 >>10096073 Its better than actual leverage or margin trading too cuz ur downside is only 100% as opposed to hundred plus percent upsides. Youre just more likely to get thst 100 percent downside if you fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:27:40 2018 No.10096085 >>10096073 I don't trade I am a Buffett-sama memester and I wish to ride on his shoulders one day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:28:03 2018 No.10096089 >>10096073 because total loss is not only very possible, its BEYOND likely. like FAR greater than 50%. go buy a lottery ticket if thats what you wanna do. im not kidding

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:28:12 2018 No.10096094 >>10096078 I am up 120 percent YTD trading aggressive short term options. Mostly Puts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:29:31 2018 No.10096106 File: 60 KB, 289x301, 1530344951931.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10096089 Total loss doesn't happen if you cut your losses and dump toxic contracts well before expiry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:30:52 2018 No.10096121 File: 7 KB, 196x157, xd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This oil shitposting reeks of crypto speculation stupidity

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:32:06 2018 No.10096130 >>10096121 Unless oil busts the trendline on Monday then its a very safe short at least short term

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:33:03 2018 No.10096146

>>10096094
wow im so impressed
youre still unironically doing it in the most idiotic way possible. watch as two bad positions cuts you down from +120% down to -50% in a week.

>>10096106
yes it does because hardly anyone will give you any money for any of that and youre selling down at the bid on a huge spread cuz no liquidity.

im serious m8. i almost exclusively trade options. i can ASSURE you you are not only doing it wrong, but you are doing it in the most reatrded way imaginable. worse (like what happened to me), you got lucky on your first few trades and are now overconfident. if you want short term leverage, buy 1 ITM contract with a delta of 60-80

>>10096121
only cuz everyones bitching at each other and turning it into a pissing match. oil is actually interesting to discuss on unlike crypto, as its real, and the things that affect it are real

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:35:19 2018 No.10096167
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>>10095992
Thanks homies, yeah still studying all this shit. I basically got super lucky at crypto buying things at 1 or 2 sats and waiting for moons.

Got orders in to sell at the bid price.

Thanks for the help bizbros

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:35:49 2018 No.10096173 >>10096146 Me and a good buddy of mine like talking about geopolitics Oil is like doing that but with potential tendies in the end

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:35:53 2018 No.10096174

>>10096121
i always watch commodities and trade stock accordingly, think about airlines.. do you think cost of operations will go up or down with higher oil prices? what do you think that will do to their profit margins over the course of the year? do you think it will effect stock price? if so.. in which way?

Same goes for many companies that are affected by commodity prices

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:37:06 2018 No.10096184 >>10096146 Buying an OTM put on IQ at the top and then making 130 percent gains when it tanks is a lucky trade?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:37:42 2018 No.10096187 >>10096167 watch the vids in the OP if you havent. theyre good for beginners and will help to explain more clearly why you do NOT trade that close to expiry. near term greeks are horrifying. ask 2scoops >>10096173 lol yea pretty much

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:43:01 2018 No.10096234

>>10096184
yes
absolutely. but only because you bought near term. lets say that you bought the put, with a month on it, then it traded sideways. thats fine right? WRONG. the whole time up there youll be eating theta, and if you bought it while it was crashing at hi IV, now you lose all that vega too. now youre probably already down 50% or so, and thinking, man i should bought longer contracts.

timing the market like that is a quintessential sign that you got lucky. you cant time the market reliably, but with options, you HAVE to.

all im warning you to do is buy longer term contracts. if you dont and eventually get totally fucked, idc. its your loss, not mine. for OTM positions i do MINIMUM 2 months, and i roll them continuously to the next two month when only a month remains.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:45:22 2018 No.10096251 >>10096234 All the technical indicators for a dump were there. Double top followed by a set of massive red dildos. If that being followed by more dumping is lucky, then all successful trades are luck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:57:18 2018 No.10096339 File: 21 KB, 746x463, sips.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should I buy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:59:26 2018 No.10096355 >>10096174 Oil is about geopolitics. God you niggers are fucking stupid. Think you know everything because you took intro to macroeconomics.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 12:59:53 2018 No.10096359

>>10096251
when they are confined by tight time restrictions like w near term options and you have all those nasty OTM greeks on them. YES. ABSOLUTELY. that is luck. its luck that you even closed green considering you probably had about a 25% chance of even breaking even when you took the trade (and like i said, this is further minimized by the near term OTM greeks)

again, idc wat u do m8, i just try to stop people who are fresh into derivatives from doing the retarded shit that newbies do w them.

im serious though, if 2scoops comes on later, ask him about this shit. he thought he was the king of long options and was doing almost EXACTLY what you are doing rn. he quickly made personal ATHs, and then he fucked up BIGTIME and gave most of it back

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:00:55 2018 No.10096369 >>10096339 lol if the 30yo boomer is a marketing campaign like i think it is, sure. do it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:03:06 2018 No.10096387 >>10096339 yes buy MNST and buy DE for the meme

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:04:10 2018 No.10096397 >>10096355 theres more than one thing that goes into the price of oil retard. that also has nothing to do with my post at all or the person i was replying to......

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 13:07:01 2018 No.10096421 >>10096121 This. Most oil posters are boomers, you can tell because they RANDOMLY CAPITALIZE THINGS and use multiple ?????

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:09:01 2018 No.10096442

>>10096421
26 yo boomer here
KIDS these days AMIRITE?

though honestly its just cuz im used to other chans and need italics and bold (and spoilers instead of parenthesis) to emphasize my longwinded rambly rants in order to keep people from disregarding it entirely

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:11:05 2018 No.10096463 >>10096421 well look what the cat dragged in.. have you had enough gay sex today?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:11:52 2018 No.10096472 File: 55 KB, 546x1090, 1528938633693.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do we corner the zoomer market?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:12:16 2018 No.10096476 >>10096369 >>10096387 Just bought in, monster millionaire soon

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:13:23 2018 No.10096487 >>10096472 what the shit is a zoomer?

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 13:14:15 2018 No.10096504 >>10096442 Based >>10096463 Hehe, no. I turned the twinks down and spent the night posing as jailbait on whisper. I got a bunch of old men to send me dick pics before telling them I was the FBI.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:15:52 2018 No.10096516 File: 7 KB, 250x228, 1493828678543.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10096504 >spent the night posing as jailbait on whisper. I got a bunch of old men to send me dick pics before telling them I was the FBI. t-that was you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:17:09 2018 No.10096537 File: 53 KB, 759x500, DgUxFPcV4AAUmay[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10096487 if you know who this is you are a zoomer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:17:52 2018 No.10096543 CRASH ON MONDAY

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:17:58 2018 No.10096545 >>10096537 do you know who that is?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:19:05 2018 No.10096554 >>10096545 :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:19:38 2018 No.10096560 >>10096487 The generation after millennials >>10096472 Fortnite shit so they can steal their moms credit card for imaginary money to buy skins worth thousands of dollars.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:21:55 2018 No.10096590 File: 146 KB, 1200x1200, 1527989857096.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] PEP will go to 200 and beyond

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:24:36 2018 No.10096615

>>10096504
>I got a bunch of old men to send me dick pics before telling them I was the FBI
lol
that reminds me of what we used to do when i was a kid (in my early /b/tard era).
wed take one of those webcam screengrab things, put it over some 15 yo girls stickcam (if u remember THAT pedoshit site, was like 08 i think). then wed take our 15yo gril webcam feed and go on chat roulette. we could chat with the gril on the other screen and get her to do whatever the guy asked to prove she was real (throw up a peace sign lol). then wed continually take screengrabs when he gave out relevant information, than we "admitted" the gril was 14 and wed get him to show his cock. then wed screengrab THAT and send it to his email (way easier to find in the early days of FB) and threaten to extort him out of money. we never actually extorted anyone tho. twas all jus 4tehlulz

>>10096537
i literally dont use this fucking site anymore outside of this thread so im way behind desu senpai. though that nigga looks like the quintessential faggot that i am privately starting a crusade against to wrestle back control of the music industry into the hands of the people, and away from the niggers and wiggers (promoted by jews) that rap about degeneracy and bullshit.

>>10096560
i think as far as the common accepted term, im definitely a millenial. im 26

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:24:41 2018 No.10096616

I never got a response last thread
when you don't have a whole lot of dollars to swing around, is it more profitable to:

>buy lots (as in actual lots of 100) of smaller/borderline penny stocks and write covered calls on them

or

>save up for one "decent"/$10-$15-per-share stock and write only one covered call on them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:25:40 2018 No.10096628 >>10096590 As soon as people realize they're big into SJW shit like $SBUX is, it's going to tank.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:26:38 2018 No.10096638 >>10096616 >when you don't have a whole lot of dollars to swing around get a job and add to your account.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:27:30 2018 No.10096642 >>10096616 lel you cant write covered calls against 1 fuckng share m8 you HAVE to have 10 of whatever underlying youre writing calls against

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:27:31 2018 No.10096643 >>10096628 That stuff doesnt effect the stock price dude...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:28:25 2018 No.10096649 What is going to happen to GBR?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:28:31 2018 No.10096652 >>10096616 *have to have 100 sry

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:28:40 2018 No.10096655 >>10096642 100*

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:30:11 2018 No.10096672 >>10096649 lel it looks like theyre trying to pump it up above 5 to attract bigger investors. >>10096655 yea my new keyboard is stiff af. makes me look like an illiterate

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:30:28 2018 No.10096676

>>10096638
I DO have a job and I DO add to my account, but I won't be making big bux until I graduate

>>10096642
It's 100 shares
I know this, that's what I meant by saving up to buy 100 shares of a decent stock. I don't just have 1000-1500 to buy a shitload of stocks from one company so I need to know if it's more profitable to keep buying small cap stocks and writing CCs on them for like only a $40 premium or to buy an actual lot of 100 shares of a medium cap company

I'm already writing covered calls for companies trading between $3-5 but they're not making me any money

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:31:02 2018 No.10096680 What was the massive volume in HMNY yesterday?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:31:13 2018 No.10096683 >>10096628 PEP will be fine m8 its one of the most solid consumer staples out there to hold. itll probably pump as the rest of the stock market continues to deteriorate

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:31:58 2018 No.10096690 >>10096649 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzlK0OGpIRs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:32:40 2018 No.10096694 >>10096676 persnally i get better returns out of smaller stocks where i can write calls. but i only write them when IV is extraordinarily high so i can snag that extra vega on the premium

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:33:35 2018 No.10096708

>>10096676
a few dollars here and there is all you need to add... thinking you can't make big bux until after you graduate is a poor way of thinking imo... you are better than that, you get started right now so when you do graduate you already have a rolling start and leave your peers in the dust

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:34:08 2018 No.10096711 >>10096676 i think its more worthwhile to look for high IV pennymemes to write calls against. their IV has a larger range, so if you time it right, youll get extra premium multiplied by the amount of 100 lots you got.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:36:12 2018 No.10096729 >>10096680 bagholding auction to lure in newbies before the r/s but thats jus like my opinion man

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:36:46 2018 No.10096737 >>10096643 >offer sex changes to mentally ill >let homeless loiter in the store i-it d-doesn't effect the b-business g-goys

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:39:01 2018 No.10096760 >>10096737 >>10096729 two good post right here boys. they're right

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:41:08 2018 No.10096775
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>>10096737
If youve paid attention to the stock before the past week, youd know they pull sjw shit for years and it never effected the price. All that matters is the cash flow. Obviously they wouldnt be paying for tranny dicks unless they had huge cashflow, and they care about shareholders a lot

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:45:04 2018 No.10096814
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>>10096775
>n-none of this mattered when obama was p-president
>p-people still like pandering to minorities, r-right?
past performance does not indicate future success

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:46:32 2018 No.10096830

>>10096775
Still wouldn't bet on a company that is all brand no substance in the long term. Starbucks could easily become the next Subway or Chipotle over the next 3-5 years. How long do you think millennials are going to keep spending $300 a month on coffee?
It's not a sustainable profit model.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:47:28 2018 No.10096839 when should I buy my calls/puts if I want to straddle earnings on a company?

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 13:49:05 2018 No.10096856 >>10096737 >>10096775 >>10096814 Trading on /pol/ is not a sane investment strategy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:49:32 2018 No.10096865 >>10096839 When you have more/better information than the market. Why straddle though? Doing research and betting half in the direction you think it will go almost always has higher EV.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:49:40 2018 No.10096868 >>10096830 starbucks is more than stores, they are partnered with Pepsico and sell popular products in grocery stores

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:51:12 2018 No.10096887

>>10096830
im not trading SBUX, but i think youre prolly wrong m8.
>Starbucks could easily become the next Subway or Chipotle over the next 3-5 years
SBUX has a lot more money than either of those chains ever did, even at their peak.
>How long do you think millennials are going to keep spending $300 a month on coffee?
millenials will spend every last cent they have on luxury items, then theyll take out a loan and do the same with the borrowed money. they were literally bred to be consumers like this.
>It's not a sustainable profit model.
and thats why SBUX has so much cashflow, they dont even care about this. they could probably run at a serious loss for a decade and not have to change anything

>>10096839
only buy at low IV. if you try to grab it at hi IV you will experience total loss

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:51:49 2018 No.10096894 >>10096865 because I don't think anyone can predict AMD's earnings fluctuations and I thought a straddle's what you do when you don't know

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:52:14 2018 No.10096898 >>10096865 lol no never make binary plays on ERs imo that shit lost me so much money last ER season. ERs and their effects on their underlyings price is almost entirely uncorrelated

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:52:16 2018 No.10096900 >>10096830 I am surrounded by millenials and they drink less coffee than any generation I've seen. Fast food is shameful and deqd.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:52:40 2018 No.10096905 File: 1.17 MB, 1391x789, FUD.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10096856 >I-I shouldn't w-worry about politics >p-politics doesn't effect the s-stock m-market

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:53:54 2018 No.10096924

>>10091962
>>10091962
>There was a retired quant on here a few weeks back.

I'm still here. I disappear from time to time for cancer treatment, but when I am around I would enjoy talking to you about my ML work. I don't claim to be doing anything magical that other people aren't doing as well, but, first, I have actually done the work, and, second, I'm willing to talk about it.

>the data cleaning process is crucial and mega fucked

This is very true. Good historical financial data is hard to get your hands on and is typically not free. I've told you before that I use the IB api to obtain my data. I chose IB for this because the data is very high quality, the api is professional quality, and I am already paying for it via my market data subscriptions with IB.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:53:55 2018 No.10096927 >>10096694 Suppose you want to writea covered call When is the best moment to write it ? On a green day for the underlying ? But if so isnt't the IV weak during such a day ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:53:56 2018 No.10096926 >>10096900 lol you know why, right? theyre all prescribed fucking dexedrine and adderall. you ever drink coffee on that shit m8? makes your heart hurt desu. too fast

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:55:59 2018 No.10096945

>>10096927
when IV is super high is when you write calls. ive never done it on the way up, and i wouldnt recommend it. if youre fancy w it (and i dont recc this to beginners), you can write an ATM or slightly ITM call while shit is CRASHING and get huge downside protection as well as collecting a nice premium from vega

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:57:17 2018 No.10096956 File: 170 KB, 971x393, sdas.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10096926 lol this Thats why I never drank coffee, but I do now (Starbux brand )

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 13:58:43 2018 No.10096968

>>10096900
Same, and the ones that do think starbucks is "mainstream" and place it slightly above fast food coffee. There's all these little coffee shops popping up around my university the last 5 years that roast their beans and aerate the coffee they serve you. I can see starbucks bleeding to the first of these that gets some traction and steals their luxury product appeal.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:00:47 2018 No.10096985

>>10096956
i used to abuse that shit sometimes when i was a kid cuz it was easier to score than pot and i was a degenrate. frankly i think this is the ONLY "safe" (stil bad on ur heart) way to use it. daily use WILL have serious longterm side-effects, and i cant WAIT to see all th studies that are gonna be done on the latent psychological problems that come from giving kids amps from the time theyre 3 till theyre dead.

honestly, who thought it was a bright idea to have kids brains literally develop on fucking SPEED? absolute scum imo. bg pharma deserves rope b4 anyone else desu senpai baka

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:04:32 2018 No.10097021 File: 9 KB, 400x467, illegible filename.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10096985 >honestly, who thought it was a bright idea to have kids brains literally develop on fucking SPEED? surely not the (((psychologists)))

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:07:33 2018 No.10097049 >>10096945 It suddenly clicks in my brainlet head But suppose I am long LT a stock and I write an ATM call during IV apocalpyse. If the call goes ITM and things calm down, is it possible for the contract to cost less than the premium I receive ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:09:30 2018 No.10097066 File: 212 KB, 491x498, 3213213213212.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10096985 Im prescribed Ive been on a 3 month break though, probably not gonna get more until I start a new job

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:14:29 2018 No.10097114

>>10096905
you shouldnt desu
if youre trading commodities maybe a little more tho.

its my opinion that this FUD thats constantly being shilled out as "ZOMG TRADE WAR GOYIM!!1! SELL!!!1", is a distraction meant to hide the more serious problems w the widening credit spread from equities and the hi yield market. i think high debt memes are gonna have a hell of a time functioning

>>10097049
if IVs really high yes. you also have theta that will help out too. but yes, if you catch a lot f vega when you write it, you can be wrong and still get out out a loss. covered calls are sweet imo. not the most profitable, but who cares? a trade in wall st w over 50% chance of profit? ill take it, no matter how small. not to mention it lowers your cost avg by the amount of the premium

>>10097066
yea that stuff is rough on you longterm tho, keep that in mind. anything that just keeps squeezing the serotonin out artificially, is not something to take every day. and its not like the positive effects stay for longer than a week or a month or so. theres better stims out there with less of a head high. i found modafinil to be much better for those times i have to stay up for two days playing shows or recording or something. surprise tho, its non addictive (as it doesnt have any head high effects) so they hardly ever prescribe it. no comedown either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:19:18 2018 No.10097157 >>10097114 I dont get comedowns or serotonin squeezed out because Im on Zoloft, based Pfizer! Have you watched the new Ciovocci video

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:20:07 2018 No.10097163 >>10090979 >>10090997 >>10091062 My dudes my average price is $1.65 and I'm still in it. I hate my life. Once (if) I ever get out I'm never getting back in. Fucking hate this company and it's shit CEO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:22:07 2018 No.10097178 >>10097157 lol they got you chained down m8 but no i havent watched it desu i will tho. that guy gives me really good ideas, even if im not trading the same shit as him at all

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:23:10 2018 No.10097187 >>10097157 heres ur big pharma anthem lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tYWOn0w0-0

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:24:18 2018 No.10097202 File: 87 KB, 600x464, JrdyOiu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the fix is in

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:29:13 2018 No.10097259 File: 21 KB, 385x387, 565656565561646416749464464.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10097178 if this is being chained down Ive never felt so free

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:31:47 2018 No.10097294
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>>10097163
It was my fault for FOMOing in. Never mind that shit-Midas Farnsworth. A known pajeet scammer is a major shareholder and has a seat on HMNY's board. It's over.
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>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:32:10 2018 No.10097298 >>10097202 BULLISH ON TSLA Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Elon Musk spins it out as some "artisan automobile" meme I kind of want to see him succeed just to piss off the TSLA short thesis authors on Sucking Beta

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:36:33 2018 No.10097345 >>10097298 I try not to get emotional either way. I just think all the cards to manipulate the stock higher are in Elon's hands till earnings. In that situation and circumstance I want to bullish very short term on the stock.

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 14:38:35 2018 No.10097370 >>10097259 I love my pills, I would unironically would have an hero without them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:39:22 2018 No.10097377 Just so I'm clear I want to buy options when IV is low I want to write options when IV is high Is this correct?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:43:32 2018 No.10097405

Imagine if you have a product pipeline with a few extreme bottlenecks. You can slow down the non-bottlenecked end portions for all saturday.

For instance if the final stage can do 1000 cars a day. You give them the day off all saturday. While the other stages pile up. Then turn it back on Sunday for the 5k a week stage.

The manipulation possible is very high. Not saying Elon did it but if his job is maximizing stock value it would be ethical to give them a day off saturday.

I don't know anything about car manufacturing but who knows what is potentially possible. 6k+ would not surprise me if Elon did every trick possible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:44:59 2018 No.10097417 does pimple still post here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:45:19 2018 No.10097422 >trump blows up oil I'm seriously starting to despise this faggot and his lack of any self control.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:49:31 2018 No.10097457 >>10097422 Sauds are gonna increase production

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:51:14 2018 No.10097475

>>10097259
better than being dead i guess

i wish this guy would do something on the global corporate bond yield curve though. theres exceptionally little amounts of good info on it even happening, let alone serious analysis on it, like what this guy does.

id argue that, in terms of treasury curve, that we cant necessarily judge it entirely on historical data, as the interest environment is MUCH different going into this (possible) inversion. popping it to zero and QEing it repeatedly, and now were still flat as shit. if you look at the curve prior to the tech bubble, it looks WAY different than it did in 94 and very different from how it is now.

one thing i HAVE noticed is the amount of people dropping shorter notes and bills to buy up the 20yrs (hence why TLT has been repeatedly pumped these last few weeks), so theres at least SOME who have a bearish sentiment in the market rn.

but again, im not worried about the treasury curve too much. its the hi yield stuff im on high alert for rn. those effects seem to be much quicker.

but im not running away from the market entirely, im just still on my trip that the GSCI is gonna outperform the S&P this year. im prolly wrong, but either way, i feel more comfy buying up undervalued commodities than "undervalued" equities. if i miss the golden bull, i wont be too sad (and i HAVE been buying up more consumers anyways). i prefer shorter term trades anyways

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:51:59 2018 No.10097484 >>10097422 >trump giving sand niggers a win typical, while the rest of us lose at the pump good thing I bought XOM for $75

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 14:52:59 2018 No.10097495 >>10097422 lol if u ever traded oil before would know to close out your positions over the weekend m8. especially when it looks topped out like this. they can just smash it in futures and by the time you get to market open, youre already in the hole

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:00:03 2018 No.10097563 >>10097377 what kind of options and what is your position?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:02:59 2018 No.10097598 >>10097495 I am safe. It's just fucking annoying knowing that the literal reddit supporters he has will lick the shit from his ass and defend him cocksucking the same nation that practically owns our economy and directly funded 9/11.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:03:00 2018 No.10097599 >>10097377 yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:04:06 2018 No.10097610 >>10097345 Yeah, no emotion you are right I have been seeing faggots here posting green wojaks on their sick GBR gains I was there trying not to FOMO

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:05:42 2018 No.10097631

>>10097377
general rule of thumb, yes

>>10097598
i wasnt too comfy w him getting all cozy w the fucking saudis either m8. i detest the KSA and everything they do/promote. but i honestly aint complaining about the increased vol hes provided, as im a short time trader. this shit has been incredibly profitable for me, now that i figured out how to play it

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:09:27 2018 No.10097656

>>10097405
The best portions of the plant can do 6k/wk. (working 12hr shifts 24/7). The paint shop being the delay makes sense. Someone did the homework and they never installed a second paint shop.
https://mobile.twitter.com/eriz35/status/1012725871759765505/

What I am actually worried about is them not making the target (or "making it" in some shady way like considering an extra 12 hour shift or not painting the cars) then declaring it anyways and making the stock soar. The price of this stock based on what has/can be delivered makes absolutely no sense. It was trading at 300 when 5k cars/wk by end of june was priced in. Now all this hype because they haven't met their goal but promise too has driven it higher. There are multiple levels of manipulation going on with this ponzi scheme. Elon Musk has probably already committed securities fraud but will never get called on it because he is a rockstar.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:14:00 2018 No.10097702 What's the next moon anyway?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:17:32 2018 No.10097737
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>>10097656
lol look at their bonds too
i didnt realize their moody rating was such shit (happened in march during that TSLA crash). and now bond traders are dumping them AGAIN. i think this forecasts more credit issues for TSLA. even in 2017 there was talk of them not allowing TSLA to roll into new bonds. and that was when hey were still rated Baa (or whatever it was). i smell another credit downgrade coming their way desu senpai

>>10097702
look for a good dip on GBR nd get in. nanocap oil company that is in the process of being bought out. low debt compared to copetitors and they actuall own some oilfields. now that its profitable to produce oil again, it should be a good ride (tho you missed this first mission). just dont FOMO into it. itll correct at some point

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:18:49 2018 No.10097756 >>10097484 How do you lose at the pump if oil becomes cheaper?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:29:44 2018 No.10097872

anyone here ever used the CCI (commodity channel index) as an indicator before? its fucking based af. ive only been using it on commodities, but apparently its quite useful for stocks as well. i havent gotten a false signal on it yet, but ive only used it these past two weeks

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 15:31:10 2018 No.10097889

>>10096924
I'm very, very happy to hear that you're still here!

I almost definitely am going to end up using IB in the end, but I'm experimenting with stockrow and ycharts to start with. I don't want to put 10k into a service to start using their data, eventhough I am at a point in my life where it isn't a big deal to lock up 10k anymore -- it's more of just a frugality thing, but I am convinced that IB will be my best data source

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:37:33 2018 No.10097940 >>10097202 what the hell is this? where is the automation?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 15:51:20 2018 No.10098067 >>10097377 Yes, I guess that's the difference between whether you want to write a short straddle by writing contracts or long straddle by buying contracts >>10097940 >automation Didn't you hear, bigot? Elon Musk said that humans are under-rated lol

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 15:57:55 2018 No.10098135 File: 698 KB, 2222x1535, 0FADA3BC-0FFA-4193-BED7-2E06BB578F43.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10098067 Tried using new app and forgot my tripcode Whoops

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:00:38 2018 No.10098164 File: 274 KB, 500x281, mju9jlje8y1qk6z3co1_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Weekend threads are boring

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:11:25 2018 No.10098273 >>10098164 TSX is closed on Monday, too. For leaf day. Which is actually Sunday (1st) but the wagies gotta get their three day weekend. I assume US markets are closed on Wednesday for fireworks day?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:12:45 2018 No.10098286 Is there a definitive introduction to options, like what technical analysis of stock trends is to technical analysis?

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:22:33 2018 No.10098387
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any of you guys long wheat? it looks like its time to hop in before its too late. ready to breakout. if it breaks through that 6.70 spot, we will see wheat fly to new yearly highs imo

>>10098286
the vids in OP are geared towards beginners

>>10098164
no theyre not
this is when you should be taking notes and planning your next moves.

>>10098135
scoops talk some sense into nicoposter. he seems to think that near term OTM options are the best way to play options

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:32:15 2018 No.10098465 File: 41 KB, 398x431, 1527941601338.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10098387 >this is when you should be taking notes and planning your next moves. >doing DD and research I prefer to shitpost on /smg/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:33:48 2018 No.10098482 >>10098387 Near term as in two months out LOL

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:37:21 2018 No.10098517
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>>10098465
why not both?

>>10098482
oh my bad, i thought you were on the weekly ones.

youll have to forgive me, i tried talking hi IV anon out of his weekly TSLA calls, but i assume hes totally fucked by now. i dont like seeing the regulars lose literally everything. seems to happen a lot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:40:28 2018 No.10098548 File: 328 KB, 500x513, 1436857930790.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10090536 stocks are gay and retarded. get groundfloor action on real shit like this if you wanna live https://www.theaccountingblockchain.io/?aId=7543845-2892534

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:41:06 2018 No.10098555 File: 31 KB, 405x344, despair.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10098465 >doing DD and research I am such a lazy fuck I could research so many companies and shitpost reports here And I want to do that for a living Motivate me

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:42:36 2018 No.10098571 >>10098555 nice trips make em funny and I'll give you (you)s

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:44:26 2018 No.10098586 >>10098548 fuck off pajeet nigger >>10098555 (chegged) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F0q0Rsrs_0 DOOOOOEEETFAAAGGGGEETTTTTTT

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:45:30 2018 No.10098597
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>>10098571
Here is an example

You can call out an anon here who is working for them in Georgia to get some juicy insider info or insult him into working harder to pump the SP

Disclaimer: I am long ROAD

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:47:04 2018 No.10098608

>>10098555
seriously tho
what the hell is the point of having something that youre passionate about/want to do, if youre just gonna stave off actually DOING it in favor of sitting there, and getting stressed out abut the fact that your not doing it (especially since you could just do it right now)?

sound to me like ur shits all retarded m8

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:49:13 2018 No.10098641 File: 154 KB, 1001x823, happy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >invested in an index fund about a week ago >already made $3.08 in positive returns When did you realize you were going to retire into wealth?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:49:15 2018 No.10098642 >>10098597 kek, this was you? nice that looks good anon I always assumed this was some complicated shill not a learning project so I avoided reading it too deeply. I've seen you post this for a few months and ROAD is up 10% nice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:49:24 2018 No.10098643 >>10098608 You are completely right I don't like finance per se but I like companies and their stories And I like being right on something (and maybe get paid for that) It is entirely my fault and I gotta move my fucking ass.

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 16:49:52 2018 No.10098649
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>>10098286
This website is alright:
http://www.theoptionsguide.com/
But the OP also has 2 good vids on options

>>10098387
>scoops talk some sense into nicoposter. he seems to think that near term OTM options are the best way to play options
>>10098164
Weekend threads are a good time for due diligence, research, pretending that you're going to work on an ML alg, and reading about how options work
near term options are one way that you *could* make fistfuls of cash, but I've always been at a total loss for everything that I've held to expiration.
I want you to look at my graph for the year, here's some a quick & easy on my trading history:
>held about 500-1000 bucks in XIV through VIXplosion
>make it back
>see FB falling on Cambridge Analytica FUD
>buy the dip 1-2 days into it
>oh, it's not a dip... how do I jack up my leverage?
>buy short term options on FB
>lose twice as much, twice as fast as I had from VIXplosion
>literally net negative
>realize it's a long haul play
>inject another 10-20 grand into my account
>buy 4-9 month out options on FB
>make it all back over the most stressful month of trading I've ever had -- go about 1 or 2 grand over my previous high
>play it safe for like 2 weeks
>short bond market with 3-9 month out options
>bond options start doing EXACTLY what I thought I would
>get greedy and chase with short term options
>suddenly it stops falling despite the feds announcing ADDITIONAL rate hikes
>lose all the bond options money I made, literally 1 grand or more expires worthless
I only made money off options that were bought about 3-4 months from expiration and sold at least 2 months from expiration.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:53:31 2018 No.10098692 here from /pol/ i was told this was my next stop into my evolution of a 4chan user i just installed robinhood with $500 and clicked random shit How long until I'm a millionaire?

(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 16:55:34 2018 No.10098712

>>10098555
Checked. It helps to get a screener like morningstar or simplywallstreet for some basic DD.

I have stop losses set on GBR, I don't want to lose money on this. Unless it dumps premarket, then I'll cancel it and ride it out and buy the dip to cut my average down
TEN DOLLARS WHEN??

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:57:09 2018 No.10098724 File: 266 KB, 500x500, 1511824842500.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10098692 >hes not already a millionaire

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 16:57:52 2018 No.10098727

>>10098642
Yeah I did this """report"""

Retrospectively, the form can be reworked. But my conviction is legit.

I read their prospectus, I did a DCF model and found the market is not giving a fuck about an Alabamian newly IPO'd stock (it still doesn't btw)

I am normally not a fan of growth by M&As but I think it is viable if the acquired companies are small/family-owned (see CHEF)

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:00:51 2018 No.10098756

>>10098649
ill roll 2 month ones on the month (or whenever theta becomes a problem) to the next 2 month ones at that point. i like this as it lets me realize gains on the way, and then i can flip my gains (or however much/little i want) into a much larger or smaller position to adjust my risk.

trick i learned is to not even show yourself your $P/L or %P/L. only look at the chart, your strike and your greeks. you should be able to tell clearly from those whether or not its a position worth staying in. and be picky about it too.

another trick is point and figure graphs. i like those because they eliminate the time aspect, and simply show you where the price action has been. then you put your strike RIGHT in the middle (or before it etc). ill grab a pic to show you

>>10098643
>It is entirely my fault and I gotta move my fucking ass.
dont even worry about whos fault it is. just hurry up and do it right now. quickly, otherwise youre just gonna sit there thinking about it all day, and waste one of the only times during the week that you likely have to do something like this

fucking HURRY

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 17:02:18 2018 No.10098769

>>10098482
Alright, solid.
I still hope you're not going all in on those, because (I'm sure you know this already btw) they really can go to literally fucking zero and can easily go to literally fucking zero, unlike actual stocks, which will only do that if there's a bankruptcy threat.
I'm sure you knew that, but sometimes it's good to just reiterate on common sense, unfortunately

>>10098465
I know that feel all too well.

>>10098548
Stocks are gay and retarded. But at least they actually make money.

>>10098555
Takes a fuckton of effort. I want an algorithm to do it for me lol you could at least use a stock screener

>>10098692
Start with mostly the S&P 500 and a little bit in companies that interest you.
I started 18 months ago with 500 bucks -- 80% SPY, 20% AMD. Currently at about 27k with 4k of gains.
Read WSJ, it's not super heavily biased politically.
seekingalpha is shit, zerohedge is better but tends to be a little schizo.
You will literally lose money if you can't learn to stop lying to yourself about reality. /pol/ is better at this than SJWs, but not being r/the_donald is even better. Drink no Kool-aid and learn to identify even your own batch of it and you will make money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:04:18 2018 No.10098798 File: 2.98 MB, 1920x1200, That hiking feel.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10098641 >made $1.08 friday I'm gonna make it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:04:22 2018 No.10098799 >>10098692 dont take /pol/ too seriously kid. youre obviously retarded, otherwise id suggest reading a book. but it looks like you just essentially threw away $500, so it seems youll be in good company

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:04:43 2018 No.10098807

>>10098756
I am an europoor it is night now

But just like Comfy got out in the field to do his podcast, I gonna make moar reports on companies with potentials

>>10098769
>Takes a fuckton of effort.
Yep
But what I like in good longs is a good narrative and a good management. I use Finviz to get the initial ideas.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:05:24 2018 No.10098814 >>10098692 list your choices and I will tell you.

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jun 30 17:11:55 2018 No.10098889

>>10098727
Oh, wow.
I always thought this was just one of our dank memes since it came out right around when I wrote the fan-fic on TVIX.

>>10098756
That's so fucking true.
I'm still working to really learn my lesson on the sunken cost fallacy.

>>10098799
>dont take /pol/ too seriously kid.
Fucking this. It can be more open-minded, which is GREAT. But, they get too tinfoil-hat-y and schizo, and it'll give you the kind of bias that you see in ZeroHedge, which has predicted 37 of the last 2 recessions.

>>10098807
>finviz
Never heard of this before. Nice. I've been looking for more than just WSJ, so I'll check it out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:17:20 2018 No.10098944 >>10095529 Are you kidding? Hillary had a fuck ton of money from the Saudis, it literally wouldn't have made a difference.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:21:34 2018 No.10098986
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>>10098807
well just do it soon
OR ELSE

>>10098889
you never heard of finviz? really? that screener is great for a free one, and the fundamentals all get spit out in a nice little chart. oh and insider transactions if you scroll down. definitely a good resource imo

heres point and figure graph
dunno if you understand these, but basically its a chart that has no x-axis quantity. only price action (this one is 10 cents a box). the boxes get filled every ne 10cent increment it strikes, and only reverses on the way back down after 3 boxes down. so itll help to filter out noisy shitty charts (good for commodities too).

but it makes deciding a strike so fucking simple

>>	(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ Sat Jun 30 17:22:31 2018 No.10098999 >>10098991 >>10098991 >>10098991 >>10098991 NEW THREAD

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:23:49 2018 No.10099015

>>10098944
this is the "redpill" that, oddly enough, never gets discussed on /pol/. saudis own so fucking much of our country, from every politician, to every other MSM broadcaster etc etc

THEYRE the ones directly promoting wahhabism and terrorism worldwide.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:25:34 2018 No.10099038

>>10098944
but NOOOO we gotta try and jam israel into every credible theory everywhere. i almost feel like this is the point so that the entire theory can be written off as simply the ramblings of some spiteful anti-semite, and thus never actually gets discussed

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:43:20 2018 No.10099230 >>10099038 >>10099015 I mean Israel is part of the problem too, they have one of the biggest lobbying groups up in Washington. I think Americans shouldn't be naive to the fact that there is a lot of foreign money influencing policies in America.

Anonymous Sat Jun 30 17:52:16 2018 No.10099317

>>10099230
they absolutely are a huge problem. but its not a singular issue. its the coalition between US, KSA, and israeli govts that needs to be discussed. it sounds a bit more objective, and would likely more easily discussed. not to mention its closer to the reality

also, i see china as a major player in all this due to the gold backed petroyuan (ie what we killed gaddhaffi for), but theyre the new kids on the block

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