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>> No.10071343

(((they))) like corrupt, shady, but competent entities to run aspects of the whole on their behalf, so I'm going to say ripple.

>> No.10071356

>>10071262
xlm

>> No.10071362

Ripple is 100% private company commercial project. They sold (plan to) 50% and keep 50% (to sell when/if it moons). They cash in 100% from every single XRP sold and to ever be sold but demand potential bank/partners to pay to use their "system". Stellar is non-profit organization with 65% of all tokens reserved to be redistributed to potential partners, offering using of the platform for free and even to pay them. Now, if I was a bank or a financial entity.. which one would I chose?

>> No.10071378

>>10071262
XLM, if only for the fact that the lead developer owns billions of ripple he can sell off in the future. Their fates are intertwined.

>> No.10071524

>>10071378

Not that it matters anymore because the entire space is dead and no one cares but this is not true.

Jed is basically out of XRP at this point and can only sell less than 1% of avg daily trading volume per day of whatever he has left.

>> No.10071552

>>10071362
You do know what they are keeping is going to the partners?

>> No.10071561

>>10071552
No I dont because its not true lol.

>> No.10071583

>>10071262
Fiat, desu

>> No.10071794

>>10071561
>>10071561
>Lock up agreements
>Entire business model is selling software to banks with discounted XRP's

I don' t even know why I come to this place.

>> No.10071876

>>10071794
Theres literally no official statement on XRP being distributed to banks and partners. While stellar has this statement on the official website. I dont know why you come here either. Stick your xcripple right up your butt.

>> No.10071893

>>10071262
Hmmm dog shit vs cat shit. Who the fuck cares?

>> No.10071928

>>10071356
spbp

>> No.10071933

>>10071262
The one with banks, jews, Ben Bernanke, Snoop Dog, etc.

>>10071343
>>10071356
idiots

>> No.10072017

>>10071524

So wrong. He still had billions of XRP. 2019 is the first year he's allowed to sell 1 billion. Then 2 billion each year starting in 2020.

If that doesn't make you uncomfortable as a ripple holder, you are stupid

>> No.10072094

>>10072017
I am nervous for every single holding I have even far outside of crypto.

>> No.10072233

Ripple is jews and they act like a literal jews. They will most likely be eliminated by the regulations because they are not even a cryptocurrency. Its just a private company that basically printed their own money. I just cant see anyone being ok with this. Not to mention being supported and further financed by a bank, lol.

>> No.10072255

But the absolute and most unironical just is the retarded teenagers with old XRP logo tattoos. You tattooed an obsolete logo of the most smelly jewish scam to ever walk on earth.

>> No.10072271

>>10071262
Ripple is by far the better choice

Just look at all they've been accomplishing. Hundreds of partnerships. An immense company pumping out more research and development faster than any other crytpo. First mover advantage in the multi trillion dollar money transfer business. And soon their transaction speed will be down to 1 second with the new protocols they're integrating.

There is literally nothing stellar has or can do that's better than ripple in any way. It's an inferior product. Look at what they've accomplished this year, they have literally done nothing and the year is half way over in a time when block chain technology is advancing on a daily basis. Stellars "partnership" with IBM has gone nowhere. And that's all they have

>> No.10072306

>>10072233
Absolutely everything you said is lie

Ripple DID NOT create xrp. Ripple has no control over xrp. And all the xrp coins ripple holds are locked away in escrow and can only be used to further develope technologies that utilize xrp.

Also xrp has been working closely with government regulators since it's inception to ensure that no it is not a security but a currency

Try harder you larper

>> No.10072354

>>10071876
>banks and partners
pornhub.sigh.

>> No.10072386

>>10072306
Yeah they now distance themselves from XRP because 1)they know its gonna fail 2) regulators will literally delete it, since they can - muh central database "blockchain" 3) they cashed in enough to retire from imbeciles like you. So if Ripple have no control over XRP why do they sell and cash in every single penny from the public? The escrow money go directly to them, you pleb. Also, if there is no control (lol) how can they make it secure? Isnt that the selling point to the muh banks? Truth is, they are centralized shitcoin that can freeze the chain at any moment and change the data in it. The absolute opposite of what blockchain stands for. Not blockchain, not cryptocurrency. Only jewish scam, cashing in billions from retards hooked on the "blockchain" mania.

>> No.10072394

>>10072306
Why do people never get this? Are they stupid or what?

>> No.10072405

Plus muh 65 000 000 000 XRP in private wallets of Ripple staff. But muh we have nothing to do with XRP.

>> No.10072406

>>10072386
You're plain retarded, seriously

>> No.10072445
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>>10072386
>they are going to delete the blockchain

>> No.10072479

>>10072445
They actually can, since the "blockchain" is actually a Ripple database running on Ripple's machines. Seriously you XRP shills are beyon retarded.

>> No.10072497

>>10071262
Xlm isn't a security. Judgment still TBD on ripple

>> No.10072525
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>>10072479
>They actually can
you are beyond retarded
try to find my node then try to find me in the middle of the buttfucking nowhere and "delete" my node

>> No.10072536

Devs will flock to XLM. Normies follow the devs for everything in life.

XLM.

>> No.10072545

>>10072525
They will storm Ripple headquarters, arrest the jews and shut down the machines. Reason why it cant happen with other real crypto currency is that there is no way to shut down all machines. You retard.

>> No.10072565

>>10072017
Yep. 5.4 billion XRP. But it's unlikely that Jed would want to see riple fail as he has limits on the amounts he can sell, as well as it being a currency that can coexist and even benefit economies along with XLM.

>> No.10072613

>>10072545
>they will storm ripple headquarters and offer them a deal they cant reject
https://www.theglobaltreasurer.com/2018/01/17/how-treasury-stands-to-benefit-from-blockchain-ripples-goal-to-revolutionise-cross-border-transactions/
anyone can run a node just like with bitcoin you retard, there is no such thing as storming ripple headquarters and shutting down machines, the network wouldnt cease to exist, it would be up and running like allways

>> No.10072700

>>10072394
You can lead a horse....

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>>10072233
>>10072255

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>>10072545
BAHAHAHAHA

>> No.10072843

>>10072613
Where the fuck does this smelly blog anyone can make and write literally anything there information about "running an xrp node" ?? LOL. What a fucking faggotry. Read the official webpage. Only Ripple runs the nodes and have access to the database. Can freeze the transactions and insures the security of the network. What a fucking joke you people are.

>> No.10072862

But nah you know what? I take it back. Pls go all in XRP. Its the best fucking project ever. 1k eoy. I mean it, pls do. Bye and go Ripple yey!

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10072895

It has a fucking fidget spinner in the namuh after all! Oh wait, now its a backward both ways vagina.

>> No.10072912

Next time it may even be a picture of Brag Garlicnose sticking some xrp up his ass!

>> No.10072946

>>10072565

He wanted it to crash and fail. He wanted to dump all his ripple. The contract and limits were not created to benefit Jed

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10072953

fuck, im all in on xlm. dont let me become the boomer man.

when is fairx coming out?

>> No.10073008

>>10072843
>Read the official webpage.
>Only Ripple runs the nodes.
how about you point me to your sources

>> No.10073039

>>10072953
fairX was just a meme. Sell and buy XRP.

>> No.10073048

Stellar is superior for normal people and will actually make a difference. Ripple is a Jew scheme to enrich a few at the expense of really, really dumb normans.

>> No.10073057

>>10073008
Im not going to that smelly jew website again. I was doing research loong ago. Not interrested in facts now as Im with you XRP boy. To the moon. Muh crypto for banks. Might as well invest vegetarian pigfarm.

>> No.10073122

>>10073057
i can trash talk all i want and not give a single source (LOL) faggot
we just rekt you in this thread
>>>10068060
and you are still talking shit

>> No.10073204

>>10073122
Trashed by imbeciless posting "AHAHAHAHAHA RETARD" over and over. Well played. Lost 2 points of IQ in this thread. Cant take it anymore sorry. Figured as an XRP fanboy I dont have to present facts and sauce on my claims, since none of you did. Well except you with the link to some smelly blog written by an unknown nigger and what you claim it confirms is not even there lmao. Just fuck it. XRP to the moon!

>> No.10073248

>>10073204
because you were just being a retard
>delete the blockchain
fucking kek

>> No.10073399

>>10073248
You can delete the blockchain you retard, lol. Obviously you have no idea what that even is when you invest in something just pretending to be one.

>> No.10073455
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>>10073399
>they are going to raid the blockchain and shut it down

>> No.10073506
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>>10072912
OOOOH Ok so this is an attempt at “reverse terrible FUD.”

You’re like 8 months too late buddy.

>> No.10073529

>>10073455
The Ripple headquarters since they have one. As a private commercial company they must do what the government tell them. If they tell them to shut down their pseudo blockchain database they will have to do it. Other cryptos cannot because they dont have a headquarters and the real blockchain is distributed around the world in every average Joe's computer.

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>>10073529
https://theindependentrepublic.com/2018/02/09/even-the-feds-want-in-on-ripple-xrp/

>> No.10073644

>>10073597
GJ another smelly blog with zero credibility from an obvious XRP shill and even then he have doubts. No wonder you vested in jewcoin if this kind of shit is your sauce.

>> No.10073661

>>10073529
You realize every node in the network independently verifies each transaction and builds each new ledger, right?

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>>10073644
your fud is really weak, it takes me 30 seconds to prove you wrong
see page 38
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/other/US-path-to-faster-payments-pt1-201701.pdf
>https://www.federalreserve.gov/

>> No.10073691

>>10073008
There were over 700 nodes last time i checked. Most of them of course not run by Ripple.

>> No.10073692

>>10073661
You realize "Xrp" node is controlled by Ripple with full access to the database capable of manipulating the information and even freezing the entire chain. If can call it chain, lol. This is the kind of shit they feed illiteral muh blukchain muh crypto for banks boomers. What a weak fucking shit.

>> No.10073719

>>10072017
And yet the price is still up 75x since Jan 17 with Jed dumping as hard as he can. All cryptos have whales who do this kind of shit

>> No.10073737

>>10073692
Plenty of third parties store the entire blockchain. Sure, Ripple could edit it if they wanted. I could do the same thing to Bitcoin. It doesn't mean anyone will accept it.

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>>10073692
>https://twitter.com/joelkatz/status/904067167171121152
https://developers.ripple.com/freezes.html

>> No.10073750

>>10073689
How exactly does that prove anything wrong? These jews "participate" in US's "looking for faster payment" solution and automatically you assume they gonna be the new world currency lol. Sure, the feds gonna make a buch of jews the richest guys on the planet just for basically printing their own money. Holyfuckingshit. Ripple applies everywhere just to have a sauce for another twitter muh partnership shill. None of the partnerships are about XRP not to mention most of them are not even confirmed.

>> No.10073758

>>10073743
Careful, he will intentionally ignore the part that explains why XRP can't be frozen like they always do.

>> No.10073776

>>10073743
Ehh when Mc Caleb was leaving Ripple they froze the entire network. I dont believe anything these fuckers say. You do what you want, ofc. I told you before. Go ahead. All in Ripple. The best fucking coin.

>> No.10073792

>>10073750
Companies testing or going into production with xRapid: Moneygram, Currencies Direct, Mercury FX, IDT, Western Union, Cambridge Global Payments, SBI, Viamericas, Zip Remit.

>> No.10073808

>>10073776
That's not what happened. Here's a good explanation: https://www.xrpchat.com/topic/18746-the-bitstamp-freeze-incident-in-2015/

>> No.10073809

>>10073743
Plus this really shows that you know nothing about blockchain. If you control every machine in the chain you can freeze the network. Even shut down.. delete data etc.

>> No.10073867

>>10073808
Thats one theory. You can find counter theories and stories to that everywhere. Like here for example https://news.bitcoin.com/ripple-gateways-can-freeze-users-funds-time/

The technical fact is still the same even if they did it or not. When I look at the people in Ripple I cant help but believe they are not honest.

>> No.10073873

>>10073750
it proves that "they" trying to
>delete the blockchain BHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
is just you being retarded and making up things in your mind
all confirmed ripple partnerships:
http://rppl.info/
>>10073776
>When presented with a legally binding document that disallowed mcaleb from selling, bitstamp decided to not be an accomplice to breaking the law.
bitstamp froze his funds, the xrp ledger has never stopped since its inception
>>10073809
>If you control every machine in the chain you can freeze the network.
IF you control, which ripple doesnt.

you are trying hard now, but im ready for everything, i got my sources organized so its easy to me, meanwhile you have provided none

>> No.10073893

>>10073867
>https://news.bitcoin.com/ripple-gateways-can-freeze-users-funds-time/
>ripple gateways
you really dont know what a xrp gateway is do you?
gateways issue non xrp currencies for others to trade, like xbt/usd on xrp decentralized exchange

>> No.10073916

>>10073809
Right now Ripple runs 14 of 18 validators on their recommended UNL. Assuming everyone in the network voluntarily uses this recommendation, that means they could (if they were stupid and wanted to destroy their reputation) temporarily halt the network. This would only last until the other nodes reconfigured their UNL's to use non-Ripple validators. There is essentially zero chance of this happening, but Ripple will still be making themselves a minority of the validators on their recommended list by the end of the year.

In the long run what we'll hopefully see are independently vetted lists of validators that users can choose from with little involvement from Ripple. However, even if a single entity has 100% control of every other node's UNL, it is still not possible to double spend, trick users into accepting invalid transactions, or to re-write the blockchain.

>> No.10073957

If there ever going to be global cryptocurrency used by actual banks it will be decentralized and not distributed by a private company for profit. BTC is the closest to this it can get as of now. But the mining is destined for monopol and the technology is obsolete now. So theres Stellar. Look, you do what you want. When it comes to XRP vs XLM im going for XLM because its real blockchain and decentralized as possible but still keeps the advanatages of XRP idea. Plus its non profit so more likely to be adopted by the people on the top.

>> No.10073973

>>10073867
Your feelings of mistrust are the same whether they did it or not, but the technical fact definitely isn't. Bitstamp froze Jed's USD balance. If someone says otherwise, they're just wrong.

>> No.10073974

>>10073957
>i will just ignore all the benefits the banks get by adopting xrp and just give my shitty opinion

>> No.10074031

>>10073957
LOL

XLM is far more centralized than XRP. The Stellar Foundation owns a higher percentage of the supply, their coins are not in an escrow, and you literally can't remove the SDF's validators from your quorum slice. Not to mention you are placing your trust in Jed McCaleb, who was the genius behind Mt. Gox, and the guy who has already tried to sabotage one cryptocurrency by dumping XRP on exchanges.

You are basically trusting them because they make the dubious claim of being a non-profit. Every person on that team is still going to be lining their pockets.

>> No.10074093

>>10074031
First good argument I have seen. They say in the whitepaper that 5% of XLM will be for the production cost but as of now they hold some 72%. There is clear redistribution strategy but if they do it fairly with no extra interrest remains to be seen. Still better than selling 100% of the total supply entirely for Ripple profit tho.

>> No.10074184

>>10074093
If Stellar were to put their XLM in a time-locked escrow and/or get rid of Jed, I would be much more interested. I don't really care if they make a profit or not as long as they're honest about it.

And Ripple owns about 61% of the supply, not 100%. I'd love to see that number lower, but it would probably require some big partnerships. They tend to sell very little right now.