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10066264 No.10066264 [Reply] [Original]

>"This is an attack on Bitcoin"

>> No.10066352

>>10066264
so are you defending blockstream? I don't get it

>> No.10066356
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>bigger than 1MB blocks will cause centralization

>> No.10066390
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10066390

>don't trust, verify

>> No.10066405
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>non-mining full node

>> No.10066422

>the absolute state of bcashers

>> No.10066549

I actually find it fucking unbelievable that so many people seriously think a 100mb block would cause mass centralisation in the year of our lord 2018

>> No.10066676
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10066676

who would build a 2nd layer solution on top of a flawed 1st layer? none of it makes sense.

>> No.10066733

>>10066676
Any protocol is flawed. For instance, the protocols the internet is built on. Yet it just werks.

>> No.10066740

>>10066549
>100mb
>mb
try terabyte faggot

>> No.10066964

>>10066264
to all you faggots thinking that you can actually scale onchain, heres a question:
We know that to pay for a transaction you pay in sats per byte, lets say in some utopic future bcash becomes the main way people pay for shit, like it gets paypal-like amount of transactions.....that would take 1 bcash to at least 1mil$.....which fucking means since you pay your transaction in bch - the fees would still be fucking huge in $...
>b-but we are just going to incvrease the block size eaven more to keep fees low
sure thing retard, how the fuck do you incentivize miners when the block reward becomes very low or stops?

>> No.10066980

>>10066264
>bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash bcash was the attack now its dying.

>> No.10066983

>>10066676
You use the internet right? Every single layer is fucked up.

>> No.10067033

>>10066964
Where did you learn math, pajeet?

>> No.10067103

>>10066676
it makes sense when you realize that the whole purpose was to subvert the bitcoin revolution

>> No.10067163

>>10067033
ok explain it to me than faggot

>> No.10067186
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10067186

Imagine being the pajeet that's hired to shill bcash in this shithole. Imagine that's literally your life.

>> No.10067197

>>10066264
just buy BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH

>> No.10067209

>>10067186
ironic

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>>10066676
Why fork into a bigger block size limit when absolutely no one gives a fuck about it? Why fork and increase it again when still no one gives a fuck about it and blocks are smaller than 200kb?

The answer is its a scam and you shills really ought to kys. Think about it: You're pajeets, poor and your job is obnoxious as shit. Think about it.

>> No.10067289

>>10067163
Let's say x is the minimal fee (in $) you have to pay to get your transaction confirmed. Our target is to keep x below a certain threshold (maybe 0.01$) and give miners an incentive to mine.
The miner reward (in $) is #TransactionsPerBlock*x. This shows that the miner reward (in BTC) stays the same if the number of transactions increase proportionally compared to the BTC price. If Metcalfe's law holds, the number of transactions should even increase quadratically compared to the BTC price, so we can assume that this strategy will work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe%27s_law
For example take x = 0.05$, n = 32000 (number of tx per block), p = 2000 (price of 1 BTC), then you get

block reward (in BTC) = (x*n)/p = 0.8BTC

>> No.10067308

>>10067289
tl;dr
more transactions = more fees, it's very basic isn't it?

>> No.10067341

>>10067289
yes but you need constant exponential growth...what if you get to huge blocks and than the use goes down dramatically because some regulation or some of the other 10000 factors that could make people use it less (eaven for a short amount of time like a few months)......and the price also goes down (its a speculative asset after all).....now miners have empty blocks and cant make money on fees, lets say this is in like 30 years and the block reward is also very very low.....the network would slowly die....

>> No.10067366

>>10067341
its like the boomer system where they said: yeah sure lets give ourselves huge pensions when we retire because the economy is going to keep growing forever and new generations are just going to keep making more and more value and the sytstem wont collapse...they were kinda wrong
this is why i think a more conservative a proach is better

>> No.10067461

>>10066549
So you're saying you don't know the trade-offs of increasing the block size and you think it's just about storage right?
Even ETH is starting to have problems already.
Can't fucking even sync it unless you have a 1 TB SSD.
https://hackernoon.com/the-ethereum-blockchain-size-has-exceeded-1tb-and-yes-its-an-issue-2b650b5f4f62

>> No.10067499

The bcore team all use their BTC to purchase BBC porn

No doubt about it

They all look like they're into fairy and pony shit or whatever the fuck ELF shit who knows

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10067741

>I secure the network by running a node on my raspberry pi

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>>10067279
because this fags says it needs it

>> No.10067939

>>10067757
>>10067279
You're Pajeets, you don't even have a fucking clue what increasing the blocksize even means - it doesn't mean it's always 32MB, dumbshits!

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10068001

r/btc

>> No.10068063

>>10066264
Btc is for fags

>> No.10068372
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10068372

LN is hijack attempt by Bilderberg bankers, read the facts!
Big hubs will require KYC compliance, this development is already loud and clear.
You may believe in possibility of getting rich but they will not succeed. People will always prefer economic freedom!

>> No.10068655

>>10068372
most stupid comment of the day.jpg

>> No.10068721

>>10068655
Please educate me.

>> No.10068745

>>10068721
educate you on what?
you just started spouting bullshit. Prove any of the things you fucking said
fucking retard
go to bed and let the adults talk.
holy shit this mentality that every opinion must be right. fuck off.

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>>10067939
Relax Amir, did I touch a nerve?

You know what 100kb sized blocks means? It means nearly no one gives a fuck about your (twice) increased limit, the amount of bcash shilling here and elsewhere is completely disproportionate to the actual use and demand for it.

Also a friendly reminder: as a lower class pajeet no hot western girl will ever really be attracted to you, even if one of your online bamboozles were to turn a profit. People joke about you smelling funny here.

>> No.10068981

>>10068745
Wow, you act so mature... Look up Blockstreams investors, thats no secret.
Currently 0.4% of hubs control 51% of the capacity, as many have predicted.
Both parties need to sign tx in LN. You control liquidity by restricting/declining to sign txs or imposing arbitrary limits

>> No.10068999

>>10068745
>>10068936
>seething corejeets
0.000122BTC(-0.0001 fee) has been deposited to your account

>> No.10069019

>>10068655
>saying .jpg after any and every sentence

It's easy to spot AXA astroturf, they try hard to fit in.

>> No.10069067

>>10067279
This. Cashies are retard pajeets.

>> No.10069078

>>10069067
t. corejeet sock puppet

>> No.10069096
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10069096

The fun starts next month

>> No.10069099

>>10069078
>t. pajeet calling others pajeets.

Bcash is a corporation, Bitcoin isn't.

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>>10069099
>kikestream isn’t a corporation
>BCore is (((open source)))

>> No.10069303

>>10069099
Lmao this troll or stupidity.

But I guess you could call an implementation a corporation. As for bitcoin being non-corporate, that's true for the bitcoin cash chain but not the bitcoin core chain.

>> No.10069330

>first they ignore you
>then they laugh at you
>then they fight you (we are here)
>then you win