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To hell with wageslavery, i'm gonna make a living as a pro gambler.
Thinking of depositing 400$ and playing baccarat using the oscar's grind system, betting on banker only. According to my research many people report the make consistent profits this way.
I'm ready to neet up, guys… wish me luck.

>> No.898477

You will lose all your money.

Do you think you can gamble(something with a negative expected return) and make an income to live off of?

>> No.898480

>>898477

If he's lucky, knows when to quit when ahead, or has the best PokerFace on the planet.

Hell, one of my friends fathers made a living off of gambling, and only worked part time to have something to fall back on just in case tho he was a Jew so I don't know if it had to do with anything

>> No.898486

Why don't you just day trade and make 150 million dollars in ten years?

>> No.898487

>>898486
>not playing roulette professionally and making $1000/hr on average

Fuckin pleb

>> No.898498

>>898471
Poker is literally the only casino game with the potential for long term earnings.

Every other game you WILL lose in the long run. There are no secret "systems" which magically turn a -EV game into a +EV game - those peddling these systems are scam artists or deluded addicts.

>> No.898576

>>898480
your friends father was probably a drug dealer or something

YOU CANT MAKE A LIVING PLAYING AGAINST CASINO GAMES WITH NEGATIVE EXPECTED RETURNS

get back to r9k, you're obviously a NEET

>> No.898624

okay, about the martingale theory. lets say a blackjack table has a table with min bet $10, max bet $500.

if i bet $10 and lose, i will just bet more my next bets to make up for all loses

bet $10 and lose
>$10 in the hole
bet $20 and lose
>$30 in the hole
bet $40 and lose
>$70 in the hole
bet $80 and lose
>$150 in the hole
bet $160 and lose
>$310 in the hole
bet $320 and lose
>kill yourself

so basically in this scenario would have to lose SIX times in a row, to not make a $10 profit. I don't see that very likely to happen. Anyway, i bet there are casinos that have a higher difference between the min and max bet, which would increase the amount of times you have to lose in a row to fail at this.

Anyone know any min and max bets for blackjack tables at any casinos we can work on?

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>>898624
>I don't see that very likely to happen.

Enjoy your crippling debt and suicide.

>> No.898633

>>898624
>I don't see that very likely to happen.

lol

>> No.898634

>>898624
Let's try it right here, using the last digit.

Even means you win; odd or 0 means you lose.

Make a couple posts, and keep score.

>> No.898638

>>898634

I'll do that

I usually do £500 roulette session so I'll start with..

£200 on even (2x return)

£25 on 0 (at a 10x return)

£25 on 2 (at a 10x return)
ROLL

>> No.898639

>>898638

OK so I'm on £650

£500 on even

£25 on 0 (10x return)

£25 on 9 (10x return)

>> No.898640

>>898639

fuck i give up, shouldnt have put so much money on even lol

on £350 as of this post

ALL IN EVEN, if it's even I walk away with £200 hypothetically vietnamese biz board dollarrs, if its odds im busto, wish me luck

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898641

>>898640

and im bust with a 0, gg shitheads, off to commit suicide

>> No.898645

>>898471

>instead of wageslave op wants to be a slave to the house and hand it money

Good idea

>> No.898672

>>898471
Actually if you deposit about 10k into your account and play $50-100 bets on roulette for say 5 profitable ones a day max(!), you'll end up making $250-500 DAILY guaranteed. Most important is to keep yourself to your own rules though and not get greedy (which is what happens 99% of the time).

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899537

OP here, something crazy happened, i signed up and they gave me 88$ free REAL money to play with, without me depositing anything, so i bet it all on RED on roulette and won then again and again until i made like 480 bucks and now i'm up to 500 using my customised oscars grind system… i'm gonna call them tomorrow to try and withdraws 500 bucks for free… that'd awesome, i'd finally upgrade my GPU for fallout 4

>> No.899577

>>899537
>OP here, something crazy happened, i signed up and they gave me 88$ free REAL money to play with, without me depositing anything, so i bet it all on RED on roulette and won then again and again until i made like 480 bucks and now i'm up to 500 using my customised oscars grind system… i'm gonna call them tomorrow to try and withdraws 500 bucks for free… that'd awesome, i'd finally upgrade my GPU for fallout 4

You have to wager through the free bonus about 20-50x depending on the casino operator.

With baccarat/blackjack/roulette they only count 5% of the bet amount as bonus towards your progress.

On an $88 bonus, you are going to have to make around $2500 worth of wagers on the site before the bonus money is released. Only slots count 100% towards releasing the bonus. If you want to play baccarat betting $30 a hand, only $1.50 of that is going to count towards the $2500 of bets needed to turn bonus money into withdrawable funds.

So you're going to need to play around 2500 hands of Baccarat at $30 a hand minimum to release the money.

Higher bets = less hands needed = more chance of busting your roll.

You can whore casino bonuses on slots pretty easily, especially those casinos that offer 2-3x deposit matching as it gives you a comfortable enough cushion to grind out the high action autism slots that chuck bonus features at you like the Colossal Reel sets (KISS, Spartacus: Gladiator of Rome, Giants Gold).

You won't be told by the casino that your bonus funds have cleared, so you'll need to keep checking every few bets otherwise you're just punting your own withdrawable money away.

Make sure that your account information is 100% accurate with your address/personal information as they will not cash out a cleared bonus if it is off in any way. They don't want you taking their money without putting anything in yourself.

GL GL, no gamble - no future.

>> No.899799

OP see this
>>898498

>> No.899853

>>898624
I tried this, with a lower initial stake, and nearly lost £60 to make £4. I didn't have any more that I could afford to stake, so if I lost that bet I'd have been completely fucked.

Not gambled on table games with the expectation of making money since.

>> No.899872

>>898624

>kill yourself for losing $320

m8...

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>>899537
Winning 500$ and spending them on PC gaming hardware.

>> No.899933

>>898487
> playing a game of chance professionally

Please explain

>> No.899939

>>898624
So in your best-case scenario you win $10 and in your worst-case one you lose $320. Even if you win six times for every loss you're still behind. How is that a winning strategy?

>> No.899957

>>898624
>Maximum wagers

>> No.899968

Just learn to count cards.

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900132

guys, OP here, i just talk to them via chat and they said i need to wager 152$ more to be able to withdraw my free 500 bucks, lets hope i can make it… fuck *** nigga i'm so excited, haven't felt so good in years, it's like me 10 years ago, getting exited to buy a new video game.

>> No.900136

>>900132
just to clarify, i need to wager 152$ of THEIR money, so i got nothing to lose and 500 bucks to gain.... fuck me damn wtf i'm so happy i'm finally upgrading my gaming pc

>> No.900393

>>900136
Fucking loser, invest the money in business and not in your shitty hobby

>> No.900632

>>900136
You talk like a faggot and your shit's all retarded.

>> No.900634

>>898471
>Thinking of depositing 400$
WOW BIG MONEY

>> No.900638

>>900132
what happpened to your ID nigger?

>> No.900677

>>900634
not everyone is a spoiled little biatch with rich parents with connections who set you up a nice 6 figure job.
>>900393
again, not everyone is born privileged like you who has money to invest.

>>900638
i'm using a vpn, got banned on another site.

>> No.900695

>>900677

Are you fucking stupid? You just said you were going to burn through your winnings on a videocard when you could put that towards a business.

>> No.900718

>>900695
>starting a business with $500
U wot m8

>> No.900729

>>900695
nope m8, starting a business with 500 bucks is the stupid thing here. i have better odds of winning by betting on RED.

>> No.900742

>>900677
>not everyone is a spoiled little biatch with rich parents with connections who set you up a nice 6 figure job.

i agree.
its a good thing im a self made millionaire.

>> No.900756

>>900742
good for you kid, enjoy your luxuries while it lasts, a storm is coming... cry out to mammon louder maybe he'll hear you then ;)

>> No.900774

>>900729
$500 is a reasonable amount for a small passive income business.
You know the reason why you think you'd have better odds betting on red? You'd never be motivated enough to to work towards and a build a business. You just want easy money.

>> No.900929

>>898629
About 3% chance of it happening.

>> No.900938
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900938

I've seen player come up 22 times in row before in baccarat.

Nobody who isn't a casino made a fortune gambling.

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>>899933

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>>898480

> he was a Jew so I don't know if it had to do with anything

One of God's chosen people reporting in - and yes, it has a lot to do with it.

I can say as a Jew that your father's friend probably ran a side-gig shilling out advice on how others can make a living at gambling. We are a sly bunch. I myself have made a few shekels doing this with Penny stocks. I convinced everyone I know that I am a penny-stock guru and pandered my shit on social media. Falsified trade statements, account records, and the like - pictures in front of other people's cars.

Moral of the story is ooooy vey

>> No.901062

>>898624
>so basically in this scenario would have to lose SIX times in a row, to not make a $10 profit.
>I don't see that very likely to happen.
Run an online coin flip generator (just google), and you'll find that about six losses in a row isn't that uncommon. You can have up to seven, eight, nine, whatever. It just takes one too many at the later levels, and you've hit the limit.

You'd probably need something like 12-13 flips to likely avoid it within the forseeable future, but you won't find a limit that high anyway, neither would you want to put up $40-80k to win $10 in the unlikely event that freak odds hit you one day.

>>898672
>$10k
Quite a lot of money for gambling. How do you guarantee your 5 wins a day? Seems like you would lose in the long run, no matter how many sections you cut it up into (i.e. statistically, you'll end up losing in the long run due to casino odds being stacked against you).

>>900132
>>900136
>Get a little bit of money
>Spend it on gay man PC
No wonder you're fucking broke.


>>901002
Elaborate. How do you still not lose money in the long term, when that's the only possible outcome?

>>901013
>Jews have no morals, and no qualms about tricking goyim
Who knew.

>> No.901070

>>898624
gamblers fallacy

>> No.901098

>>900774
the only thing i'd put $500 towards would be to buy and sell stuff on amazon. Maybe invest to sell water or something at a fair/parade/concert

>> No.901100

>>901062
Most places have a maximum of like 5 bets per spin. Not viable longterm. Just a bit of fun to increase odds.

>> No.901114

>>901013
nice meme idiot oy vey xDDDD

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901166

>this thread

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>>898471
Have you EVER seen a rich person at a casino?

I haven't. Everyone there looks low to middle class. That's a sign.

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>>898471
I'm waiting for you on the other side, anon-kun

>> No.901251

>>901190
Yes, I have.

>> No.901255

>>898498
sort of true... but not quite

advantage play exists in other games including baccarat (though not using the system the OP is proposing).

card counting is potentially feasible with blackjack - though a huge faff and probably not worth the effort these days vs poker

people do make money from exploiting small edges i other games periodically including bugs in slot machines, edge sorting in baccarat, roulette timing devices (illegal in some places)

>> No.901256

>>901255
but having said that the OP's best bet is probably poker

sports betting is another potential option, though tis a much better one if you live in the UK rather than the US

>> No.901262

>>900938
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Wells_(gambler)

>> No.901265

>>901190
depends on the casino, some casinos only let in rich people

>> No.901409

>>901265
Name 1.

>> No.901783

>>901409
I can name three off the top of my head: Crockfords, Les Ambassadors, The Ritz...

In the context of the thread Phil Ivey won a few million at Crockfords playing Baccarat using edge sorting though then lots the resulting court case.

Also a gambling syndicate took the Ritz for over a million at roulette using a timing device, they got to keep their winnings as there wasn't a law at the time banning electronic devices.

>> No.901787

>>901783
Les A has a 25k annual membership so pretty safe to assume they tend to just let in rich people

>> No.901803

gotta play a game where you have an edge. i play poker for a living (but ill admit that im mediocre and make a shitty hourly rate) and i also have experience with degen gambling, especially scenarios like >>898624 (and yes, it happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME). even poker is not all that profitable anymore compared to 5-10 years ago when the games were super soft.

>> No.901822

>>901265
In what possible way is this relevant to the question at hand? Rich people are usually not stupid and thus don't expect to earn money by gambling. It's just a thrilling hobby for them.

>> No.901857

btw what do you think about folding AKo preflop to a re-raise and a shove in a tournament? reasonable or too nitty? its always so painful, but i think the chance of running into a made hand is too big to call for your tournament life.

>> No.901869

>>901857
Tournaments are all about survival. What do you beat in that spot? AQ that's it. nobody shoves with AJ in that spot. So you're gonna be completely fucked against AA or KK. Or in a coin flip. I would fold if it would cost me more than 50% of my stack if I lose.

>> No.901880

>>901869
yeah thats what i was thinking. i was in that spot a few minutes ago and it turned out middle pos re-raised me 3x with AJ after i raised in early pos and late pos shoved with AQ and i would have won the hand. my friend who was watching called me out for being a nit and just wont agree that he was just being results oriented. i think i cash games its a call though

>> No.902365

>>901822
look at the post it was in response to

>> No.903000

>>901857

Yeah there is no way you play for a living.

>> No.903123

What if I want to make 50 dollars a week? (to make student loan payments) Seems gambling would be my best option.

>> No.903124

>>903000
He never said he did faggot. Damn you're fucking dumb.