Entrepreneur General - /entg/

[Anonymous No.12535181]

freshly laid off and too lazy edition

Little to no Investment($100-$1k), very hands-on
>Direct Response Copywriting
>Dropshipping
>Social Media Marketing
>Digital Media or Marketing
>Affiliate Marketing
>Media Buying
>Web Development
>Freelance software development
>Making Online Courses
> Self-publishing Ebook (comprehensive guide: https://kindlepreneur.com/book-marketing-101/))
>Product Arbitrage
>Consulting
>Sales

Some Investment Required($1k-10k)
>ATMs
>POS Systems
>Slumlording
>Daytrading (kek)
>P2P Lending
>Authoring or Online publishing
>Vending Machines
>Automated News sites or any kind of automated blog
>Automated online Arbitrage with the help of a buy bot

Large Investment Required, but still very passive(10k+)
>Parking Garages or lots
>Laundromats
>Batting Cages
>Rental Properties
>Buying Royalty rights on music, media, etc

[Anonymous No.12535203]

>>12535181
Anyway my income source has been extinguished. Need to find a way to make money but I hate having a job. Just scoured craigslist but we know how that goes. Wish me luck bros.

[Anonymous No.12535258]

>>12535203
Ur a faggot

[DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE No.12535291]

>>12535203
Write decently.

[Anonymous No.12535316]

>>12535291
>>12535258
fuck off I'm actually a decent writer when I'm not sad and drunk, this is a nice anon thread only btw, no bully

[DRC !!wwHMYEPSSvE No.12535340]

>>12535316
>I'm actually a decent writer

Why don't you just charge for writing then?

[Anonymous No.12535392]

Anyone has had success selling fanmerch through DBH?

[Anonymous No.12535397]

>>12535340
since you've mentioned it, kATESN0d, I'm looking into it. but I'd probably hate that more than having a wagie job

[Anonymous No.12535556]

I can vouch for bots doing automated stuff for you. Those little shits can make you tons of money while you sleep, eat and even shit. They turn your PC into a money printing machine basically, the key is to find a good bot and put it to good use on something profitable. Whatever that is it's up to you to find out though

[Anonymous No.12535565]

>>12535203
Are you good at making anything or at least have a passion/interest in something other than shitposting?

[Anonymous No.12535619]

>>12535556

Please give an example of a bot that you've used to make money before. Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.12535921]

i make $8k a month from my job what do i do besides roth ira and crypto and index funds to get to get an additional $2k/mo (trying to hit $10k/mo to start)

[Anonymous No.12535944]

>>12535565
I have a plan but the comfy stuff is going to take awhile. I'm hoping to break into the local culinary produce scene, and sell a few homemade cutesy products on local classfields and etsy.

I'm close to feeling confident enough to webdev, and given the situation I'm going to take that off the backburner and kick that endeavor into high gear. I've always done carpentry/landscaping/handyman stuff so I'll have to, sadly, put those ads out again but the season isn't exactly ideal yet.

I've got a couple bots I've prototyped too but haven't really made profitable yet, so there's that. I'd love to sell those as apps though if it comes to it.

I guess for passion / interest it's not having a job, lmao.

[Anonymous No.12536012]

>>12535944
I guess my "passion / interest" was via negativa and that doesn't really count (not anymore than "not dying" would). I'm going through college at a snails pace but I do genuinely enjoy math/cs, financial turbulence has kept me out of going more steadily so I'm trying really hard to fix that and get some relatively passive systems down. I have next to no capital but I'm selling all my shit right now.

Other than that, I like music and hopefully by summer I'll have the balls to panhandle with my guitar, lmao. And that basically wraps up my blog, /biz/.

[Anonymous No.12536381]

Is drop shipping a dead meme or what guys? I imagine knowing how to program (specifically Python w/ Pandas and Scrapy) might give me an edge there somehow in terms of finding good margins and just automating shit overall.

I'm looking to take my automated "blog" online any day now and would like to have some sort of income from it, so I'll also be looking into affiliate marketing when the time comes. Not really sure what I will market though because I don't really buy anything other than food, I also don't really like the sound of trying to sell crap I don't support to people, but maybe I can just drop some amazon links to books I enjoyed or something.

Just looking for any and all ideas. Too many crappy clickbait ideas out there.

[Anonymous No.12536464]

>>12535619
A bot in a gambling website making conservative bets 24/7 and winning more often than not

[Anonymous No.12536542]

>>12536464
Oh yeah, RuneScape bots as well. They can get you gold and you sell it to some websites dealers. Never tried it personally though and not sure if it's feasible, probably if you have 20+ bots

[Anonymous No.12536573]

>>12536542
The days of easy money are long gone. The only people making good money still write their own private scripts.

[Anonymous No.12536631]

>>12536573
So would you say I can make money off it if I use my own scripts?
Do you think it would be better income in I just sold the scripts on one of the bot websites?

[Anonymous No.12536710]

>>12536464
Did you just use something like Selenium to interface with the website? The most daunting part of all that is the blatant unfriendliness of gambling site towards bots. If you wanna spill more beans, I'll throw up my email.

[Anonymous No.12536756]

>>12535181
guys, I think I have everything I need and I'm blacklisting 4chan and all other shitholes from my network. the time has come to leave the interwebs temporarily, time to go cocoon mode and get shit done instead

thanks for nothing

OP OUT

[Anonymous No.12537054]

>>12536756
And so the last non-crypto thread died and /biz/ was plunged into the great darkness.

[Anonymous No.12537091]

>>12536756
Godspeed anon ,Godspeed

[Anonymous No.12537217]

>>12535181
Hey my guys, could use some advice

I own an upscale specialty grocery store business. I have one location in an outdoor mall type setting and another in the downtown area of a medium sized town. The town store is surrounded by mostly small businesses while the mall store is surrounded by more corporate places.

The town store almost always outsells the mall store, and doesn’t cost me nearly as much in rent. While the mall store does just barely make me money over the course of the year, it loses me money in the slow retail months (Jan feb). The town store makes me money every month.
Should I pull out of the mall store and focus entirely on the town store? It would allow me to cut labor and more intensely focus on advertisement, new products, etc.
How do I let my customers know that even though we won’t be at one location anymore, the other is there to stay?

Also, any ideas for pushing online sales? Vast majority of my sales are in store, my website is fairly new and I tend to get 1-3 orders a day, usually 40 bucks per order. any way to push this up?

[Anonymous No.12537290]

>>12537217
If an ugly bitch wanted your bastards and told you to cum in her, would you pull out?

Dude, the Town Store sounds more comfy and steady, go for it. Just let your customers know you'll have all the great things AND MORE under one roof.
You'll take a hit, but over all it'll work out better in the long run.
And yeah, let people know online, and I dunno some ''moving specials'. build a community engagement and push people to order online for special perks. Something like that.

[Anonymous No.12537519]

>>12537217
Dude malls are fucking shit, it’s not going to get any better. Retail is dead, get the fuck out of there. Focus on improving your other store, fuck around with new ideas. Delivery, subscription based stuff, bring in a sushi chef, whatever.

[Anonymous No.12538515]

>>12537217
bring in an old lady who can cook nice food, let her cook some burgers and stuff, or bring in a fresh sushi bar.

[Anonymous No.12538723]

>want to do some affiliate marketing
>set up Google Ads account
>find where to host my website
>everything in order
>ready to go
>no fucking clue what to actually market
Fuck.

[Anonymous No.12538785]

>>12535203
Killyourself you pathetic lowlife

[Anonymous No.12539214]

>>12538723
Go with what you know

[Anonymous No.12539305]

>>12535181
Obsolete
>Automated News sites or any kind of automated blog
>Automated online Arbitrage with the help of a buy bot

[Anonymous No.12539368]

so dropshipping is a mem or its still working?

[Anonymous No.12539427]

>>12539368
Heavily oversaturated market

You can try to make a stake in it but it will be a very very hard road ahead.

[Anonymous No.12539437]

>>12539427
Yeah you know that market is over when you have dropshipping gurus on youtube in recomendations

[Anonymous No.12539449]

>>12536381
regarding Blog,
how do you automate it?
Are you pushing out serious content or just trying to make money with clicks?

[Anonymous No.12539512]

Do people actually read blogs.

[Anonymous No.12539607]

>>12539512
>do people search the internet for everything?

[Anonymous No.12539612]

>>12539607
true

[Anonymous No.12539854]

>>12539512
Yes. You NEED to have your blog be within the first 1-5 hits on google though, so that when people search "What is the best x" they click on your blog then hopefully click on your affiliate links.

[Anonymous No.12539889]

I have some good tshirt ideas but it may involve copyright infringement. Some of them basically have small logos of a music group (I also have designs that are purely original too).

How long could I get away with selling them off of etsy or ebay before a cease and desist catches up to me? And if that's what happens, would I be taken to court to squeez all of the money I made off of those shirts or would they just tell me to stop and take it off the website? I feel wouldn't mind selling them for about a year, getting told to stop, but I still get to keep my profits.

Additionally, what's the best source to buy tshirt samples and full orders in bulk? Any general clothing sales tips would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.12540059]

I'm an experienced engineer by trade, and a scientist by nature.

I love doing first hand research. Testing products, testing hypothesis, finding out how to optimize mundane things (in home heating, automotive fuel mileage, water use etc). I also enjoy finding, digesting, interpreting other research as well as doing meta-analysis.

I LOVE doing these things, and I've noticed that many people very much enjoy the fruits of my labor.

I want to start a website, youtube channel, blog or something similar where I simply take in requests to prove/disprove certain things, optimize everyday things.

I'm struggling with monetization. There's zero chance that I can charge anything up front for this type of deal. There's too much of a hurdle, and the majority of people are hardwired to not see value in R&D until it's already completed (see corporate R&D behavior). My thought is to utilize a willing donation setup. Maybe Patreon, but more along the lines of posting a paypal/venmo link and some crypto wallet addresses and just allowing people to donate to allow me to do fun research projects.

any insight into monetization of something of this nature?

[Anonymous No.12540102]

>>12540059
to expound; the bulk of the research would be directed and suggested by the crowd; they would be requesting the things they want to know more about.

[Anonymous No.12540441]

>>12540059
>>12540102
Anything is possible if you build a large enough fanbase. If you put out good quality content and attract enough followers, eventually you can create your own website to host your own videos as well as display ads. After that you can bounce into things like authoring books, looking for sponsorships, making money through affiliate links on items you've reviewed/used in your experiments, and probably a bunch of other things.

I'd say just go for it and start creating content. The biggest hurdle you should be worried about right now is building up a consumer base. It will be a slow burn so don't expect to make tons of cash right off the bat.

[Anonymous No.12540578]

How do I go from being a wantrepreneur to entrepreneur? That simple image hit me pretty hard.
I always have ideas, lately about SEO game but I never make them come to fruition. It feels like I'm never going to make it this way.

[Anonymous No.12540823]

>>12535181
Product arbitrage seems interesting, is there any guides on how to get started?

[Anonymous No.12540986]

>>12540823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHhbaSYH2ek

[Anonymous No.12540996]

>>12540578
Read Unscripted by MJ Demarco, he gives a good explanation of how business works and how you can start.
I'd skip past the critique of wagecucking, since you already know it sucks, and get straight into the business advice.

[Anonymous No.12541099]

>>12537217
You need to understand digital marketing in order to effectivley push online sales. I'm a desperate motherfucker so I'm willing to help you for free bcuz i need credibility. hmu at [e-mail] if your interested.

[Anonymous No.12541106]

>>12540996
Thanks, I'll give it a check.

[Anonymous No.12541165]

>>12541099
post here some "how to digital marketing". What you need to know, where looking for new trends, clients etc

[Anonymous No.12541170]

>>12541165
could be but not now

[Anonymous No.12541182]

Fuck >>12540996 that faggot
>>12541106
read Thiel's 0to1

[Anonymous No.12541183]

>>12541170
so just screenshot your bookmarks

[Anonymous No.12541346]

>>12539449
I use emacs org mode for just about everything (time logs, project/hobby documentation, notes, etc), so cranking out a blog is easy with orgs built in HTML export, and it wouldn't be hard to just set up a script to automate the posting process. Secondly, I could either scrape and recycle popular links to share, and share what I've read in that timeframe too. Not sure where I'd move for affiliate marketing other than recommending books though, but getting an audience is the important part. I would probably add more interesting content beyond the automation at some point, but it's nice fluff in the meantime.

>>12540059
I'm a similar boat but rather than R&D my autism lies in automating the stupid shit I see people do manually (on craigslist all the time). It's a similar boat because it's equally hard to monetize. There are so many business that could save so many man hours / dollars by just implementing some R or Python program to routinely handle data.

>>12540578
Just advance an idea to a working prototype, and do it in under a month. The image hit me really hard too, and finally got me to prototype some app ideas. Use that self hatred to your advantage anon.

[Anonymous No.12541810]

>>12540996
I really want to like MJ Demarco but he writes like an autistic teenager and most of his wealth came down to pure luck. Not saying he didn't deserve it or anything but he managed to strike it big during the dotcom bubble, sell at the top, rebuy the bottom, then sell again once dotcom stabilized.

[Anonymous No.12541903]

>>12540996
>>12541810

Snake oil. I skipped through the book some minutes ago, because I was interested if there would be at least some valuable /entg/-related advise in there. Of course, it's not. Just the usual motivational American bullshit.

[Anonymous No.12543006]

>>12541346
so you taking posts from other blogs and post in on yours or you making own posts?

[Anonymous No.12543128]

>>12541903
I liked it. Millionaire Fastlane was a little bit more useful for me, because I was just starting a business at the time. Unscripted is basically a more fleshed out rewrite.

[Anonymous No.12543685]

>>12541346
>I use emacs org mode for just abo....
Sounds nice.
Making some money with it would be great.
amazon affiliate marketing is at the moment the easiest I way I can think of?
Talking about and promoting stuff I personally have knowledge about.

[Anonymous No.12543839]

>>12543128
Millionaire Fastlane is just a dumbed down version of Escape the Rat Race which is funny because not only does Demarco make fun of Kiyosaki in his book but also the fact that Kiyosaki is a hack too.

[Anonymous No.12543870]

>>12535181
I created a very specific website for a very specific market. Around a 1000 of these types of business country wide and only one very, very, very shitty website that gives information about it.

I was thinking charging $30 per year to give those businesses a platform to reach the public.

How do I actually get people to sign on? Just email them and ask them to sign on?

[Anonymous No.12543934]

>>12543870
Pretty much

Most of them probably won't bother unless you already have a huge number of hits per day though, so you may have to lie.

[Anonymous No.12543944]

>>12537054
>that id
i want to believe but i hate ripple

[Anonymous No.12543975]

>>12543934
Shit. Kay thanks at least no f2f meetings

[Anonymous No.12544032]

>>12535181
I just launched my website with Shopify for my 3D printing business. No sales yet. I’m thinking I might need to take out some google or Facebook adds or something. Does anyone have any experience with online advertising?

[Anonymous No.12544150]

>>12543839
Never read that one by Kiosaki. I read a few of his others, and RK is definitely a hack. I have more business acumen than my2dads. His publisher is a genius though.

DeMarco made it. I don't know why people refer to it as luck... Creating a lead gen business that sold for millions (twice) is a pretty big deal, even if he did it during the dotcom era. Most people at the time, if they were making money on the internet at all, were just selling shit on ebay.

[Anonymous No.12544255]

>>12543934
How am I going to get hits if I need them on the site to get hits?

How the fuck did Uber get the first uber driver now that I think about it?!

[Anonymous No.12544345]

>>12544255
You can pitch the idea of a landing site to them, you can also lie and make up some fake companies to throw on there to make it look like you're a lot more popular then you really are. You just gotta hope that they're run by boomers who won't bother doing a quick Google search to see how much traffic you get.

Or you could be honest and just say that you have an idea and you think you can both benefit from it. Although you may want to incorporate some way of making it so you don't get paid unless you send traffic to their site. If you do this then they'll happily jump on board since they really don't have anything to lose.

[Anonymous No.12544362]

>>12544345
Cool thanks Anon.

[Anonymous No.12544366]

>>12543870
Can you get them to sign on to a free stripped down version of what you envision, and add some premium features down the road?

[Anonymous No.12544409]

>>12544366
Not really but this is a real boomer industry though. Most don't have websites. I had to get the numbers from government census and tax returns. The thing is I know some people in the industry and everybody is complaining about not getting clients etc but they literally haven't fucking started advertising online or have websites. They still work with word of mouth and ads in very niche books.

One site tried to do what I did but failed horribly, very bad implementation apart from a very nice front page. Its basically a directory and listings for these businesses, with ratings and bookings.

[Anonymous No.12544467]

>>12544409
You may find a major uphill battle with the late adopter crowd, if someone with no web presence in 2018 can even be properly classed as late (non-adopter may be a better term). These people are more likely to spend money on a bs artist who whispers in their ears, telling them they won't ever have to change their methods and somehow magically wind the clock back to when they were killing it with the yellowpages.

Why'd the other stabs at it fail?

[Anonymous No.12544553]

>>12544409
>>12544467
Actually...
You be the non-bs artist "whispers in their ears, telling them they won't ever have to change their methods and somehow magically wind the clock back to when they were killing it with the yellowpages"

Because you do the scary technical shit for them. Give them a working system, get them addicted, and then charge for results. Get a script of how the niche book's sales people operate with your target and copy it to a t; however, swap out your solution for the books. Dress your solution up, on the client end, as closely as you possibly can. Copy their colors, font, and everything.

[Anonymous No.12544590]

Incremental change, particularly when playing upon their instinct for what will work based upon what used to work, will probably budge some non adopters.

[Anonymous No.12544668]

Affiliate Marketer here. Been doing it off and on for years along with other internet businesses but I only started taking AM seriously last August.

[Anonymous No.12544679]

>>12544467
>>12544553
Thanks a lot Anon.

[Anonymous No.12544708]

>>12544668
nice anon, any tips on getting started?

[Anonymous No.12544788]

>>12544668
is AM still viable in this day and age?

[Anonymous No.12544868]

>>12544668
nice! share some tips

[Anonymous No.12544873]

This is borderline wageslavery, but does anyone work as a freelancer for high value projects (grant writing, financial modeling, certain types of programming, etc)?

I've been doing it in a very small niche and want to expand. Just wondering the viability of learning something simple like business analytics (I know the basics of python, Java, and R), or if I should focus on longer term topics like serious data science and machine learning. Maybe seek some certs like project manager and six sigma even though they're complete memes? I also see a lot of people wanting Woocommerce integration who are willing to pay, so I should probably look into that.

I like the remote work, and I work with a lot of startups/medium sized businesses so if you find a good one and provide enough value you can get your high rate plus a bit of equity. Not too bad.

[Anonymous No.12544942]

>>12544873
>borderline wageslavery
thats not borderline wageslavery if you can choose which project to work with. Win-Win situation for me. b2b is cool

[Anonymous No.12545004]

>>12544873
>I like the remote work
>certs like project manager and six sigma
choose one

[Anonymous No.12545037]

>>12544708
>>12544868
Read through all the AM forums like AffiliateFix.

>>12544788
Definitely

[Anonymous No.12545042]

>>12545004
Fair enough, I don't know much about six sigma. But I have seen people who want virtual project managers.

>>12544942
Not really a choice as I just graduated and I'm desperate for more jobs. I have a couple of good ones now but need more high quality ones. But yeah I know if I can build up my portfolio and add some more skills, it will be comfy..

[Anonymous No.12545111]

I dunno about you guys, but I started a YT channel in about 2018, now at 540k followers, decent views/watchtime, plenty of engagement with extra media, etc.

I literally just use a Patreon plus PayPal direct 'donation', and I get my viewers to create the products they'd want, I get them made because I can with their money, then I sell it back to them.

Fucking hell lads, just be charismatic, don't need to be attractive (you need to be clean though, hygine and stuff) just don't be high-level autism. In fact low-level autism probably works in your favor, god knows most of my fans use their parents money despite them being (apparently) 25+yo males.

[Anonymous No.12545561]

>crypto dies
>/biz/ starts to talk about actual business again
finally

[Anonymous No.12545575]

>>12544668
How do you avoid pajeets and other aff marketers copying your campaigns? I did this back in the mid 2000's but people just stole my landing pages so I gave up, was also in college at the time so I couldn't give it my best

[Anonymous No.12545594]

>>12545111
kekked and checked, based, mind sharing any more about your channels? Niche targeted, total income, that kind of thing
>just be charismatic
Sounds like a fun way to make some extra cash, although I would be shocked if it were your main source of income

[Anonymous No.12545613]

>>12545594
if its a niche with the targeted audience some themed companies could pay really nice money

[Anonymous No.12545639]

>>12541903
>>12543839
>t. retards

[Anonymous No.12545674]

>>12545111
How’re earnings per month? General niche? How often did you post content? Half a mill in a year sounds like a lot of luck.

[Anonymous No.12545728]

>>12545639
they're not wrong

[Anonymous No.12545732]

>>12545042
What do you do?

[Anonymous No.12545746]

>>12545728
>t. built my passive income “muses” after reading 4HWW and Fastlane and have never had a job in my life
Lol. K.

[Anonymous No.12545831]

>>12537217
Print an in-store banner or just signs on the doors saying you're relocating to the town location, so any regulars are notified when they shop there. Other than that just social media blast, how hard is that? Give your employees at least 2 weeks to close up shop and find new jobs, you owe them that much for every wagie who put in a 2 week notice

[Anonymous No.12546192]

19 doing Junk Removal & Delivery w/ my truck.

Thankfully have a truck in the family that I am able to use so no starting cost except for gas & advertising.

Right now I'm only on Craigslist spending $20/day roughly. Doing about $1500/week profit with one other guy.

Weekends are busiest but I'm close to a large city which lots of my jobs are out of.

Going to be buying a trailer soon maybe look at another truck & hiring 2 people. Really didn't think it would get this big as I started just to fill time while I get my real estate license.

[Anonymous No.12546290]

>>12544873
if you're into IT then one a cert that was heavily recommended to me from a head-supervisor of IT for my town is the ITIL

[Anonymous No.12546354]

>>12538723
Hey anon I can actually help, sell CBD

[Anonymous No.12546388]

>>12535181
>>Daytrading (kek)

thats how ppl lose money, go long term senpai

[Anonymous No.12546398]

>>12545746
i was agreeing with the roberto kawasaki shit

[Anonymous No.12546483]

Guys, I have a serious issue with my work ethic. I am making good money but sometimes im so lazy about things and wont even do an ounce of work that day. I could be making alot more money, but i keep distracting myself with shit like 4chan. Honestly it feel like theres a constant battle in my head for being productive/unproductive. Its so shitty, i come into work and stay later and come in on the weekends sometimes to get my shit done when i could be getting everything done and more if i was focused. That would allow me to start working on business ideas in my freetime. How the fuck can i stop my self from fucking around when it feels like theres such a lazy part of me trying to sabotage me on every decision.

[Anonymous No.12546570]

>>12546483
Yes yes yes 100% this I relate so hard. I'm the affiliate marketing guy from >>12544668 and I find that ever since the Christmas holiday season I've been super lazy and just end up watching youtube and stupid shit instead of making new landing pages and launching campaigns. I too would like to know how to be better focused.

[Anonymous No.12546682]

>>12546483
eat the right foods, take some vitamin tablets...etc. lack of focus - google it.

[Anonymous No.12546728]

>>12539437
Is it not viable anymore? I would think it's just a matter of advertising + a novel product... Won't there always be normans that buy shit?