/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>9978058
It's not milk farming.
Stay poor.

>>9978061
what do you mean by that?

>>9978058
Are those poly or amorphous?
I know they aren't mono.

>>9978159
weak forced meme

>>9978058
Dunno dude, it’s sure to stay around though. You looking to be an installer or a factory guy making them?

>>9978300
what do you mean by that?

>>9978313
out in the field installing and learning, in fire alarms you can make a decent career because of all the licensing you need to get (s98, nicet 1, 2, 3, 4), so companies can charge more (as opposed to something like security).

Wondering what the deal is for solar they probably follow NEC/DOB and what else stuff like that, just any info, sorry if it might be the wrong place to ask

>>9978058
I'm a PV designer so I know a few things about it. But I've never actually installed before. What do you want to know?

>>9978691
I got a few questions

1. Where do you see the industry in 10 years in terms of growth and relevancy?

2. Will solar be able to power high rise buildings (70+ feet?) any time soon with minimal power taken from the grid?

3.) Does your company have any direct partnerships with a 3rd party vendor who distributes/sells and installs? And how's that going?

Thanks!

>>9978771
1. It's growing. I've been designing for 5 years and in that time the panels have become almost twice as efficient from my beginning until now.

2. I doubt it, but it depends on how much roof space there is and the actual energy demands of the building and what it's used for. If you mean downtown high rises, no, due to lack of roof space vs. floor space.

3. No, we do plan design for contractors and play a little bit of advisory role. But I guess it depends on your specific question in regards to this.

>>9978285
Scratch that. I was looking on my phone.
They are mono.

>>9978771
One other thing for #1.

It's growing particularly in the SW part of America, that's for sure. Green is an absolute meme but that's not going to stop me (or you) from trying to capitalize on it.

A lot of advancements are being made especially in the battery backup field. Look up what Tesla is doing with Powerwalls. You don't even need a PV system to benefit from them, although they are paired together most often. You program it to suck power off of the grid during off-peak hours to use during peak hours, so your utility company doesn't rape you if you want to run the air conditioner during peak hours.

In places like California or in the Desert states it makes perfect sense to have nearly every home have solar, just for the fact that the energy is there to be harnessed.

What does this mean for the price of silver OP? Will manipulators still be able to naked short or will supply and demand finally blow the lid off?

No solar without silver right?

>>9978058
Another thing OP, the industry as it stands is heavily reliant on government subsidy in the way of tax rebates and utility company rates. If this ever gets cut, the industry would take a hit. On the other hand though, the technology is progressing to a point where I see it being able to stand on it's own within a decade. Just my personal opinion though.

>>9979073
Interesting, and thanks for the info.

Do you think the North East weather conditions play a role in solar efficiency or are less suitable for solar somehow??

And when you say it's a meme, are you implying it's not worth it in someway? In other words, don't you think solar will be a major player in the way we harvest and distribute energy in the coming decades?

>>9979223
>Another thing OP, the industry as it stands is heavily reliant on government subsidy in the way of tax rebates and utility company rates. If this ever gets cut, the industry would take a hit. On the other hand though, the technology is progressing to a point where I see it being able to stand on it's own within a decade. Just my personal opinion though.

Interesting stuff, since you're in the "green" field (and I guess technically an insider?), does your company or other solar companies see any competitors (wind, hydro) coming in to steal the show eventually?

>>9979285
>wind, hydro

No, those are absolute memes, even more so than solar. Hydro only works in certain areas (of course) and aside from needing a lot of wind for turbines, they are ugly as fuck, people complain about them obstructing their views, they kill birds, sometimes require maintenance, etc. Solar is pretty much maintenance-free for 20-30 years and can just lay on your roof without requiring extra land or space for it, and only the pickiest of HOAs give a shit about it. Sometimes they require you to go with black-on-black hardware and be obstructed from the street, but I don't think I've ever heard of them outright denying it, unless you go with a ground mount system. About 10% of the designs I do are ground mounted and they are more of a pain in the ass. I can only imagine the permitting nightmare of a turbine especially in a bureaucratic hell hole like California.

>>9979119
a better question would be: is the mining of silver matching the rate of pv cell production? we're gonna continue mining silver at more or less the same rate for decades/centuries. i wouldnt expect an increase unless pv cells required some decent percentage of the yearly silver harvest

>>9979223
Yeah, North East just doesn't have as much sunlight in the off-months. Nothing you can do about that really. It's more effective in the SW of the country.

It's a meme in a sense that it's more "green" than traditional power sources. You still have to rape the Earth for the semi-rare and toxic materials used to make the panels while burning a lot of carbon in the process. It's becoming more and more "worth it" when you consider that utility rates are going up, generally. It's a matter of when the government subsidies end, where utility rates will be at that time, and where the technology is at when that shit storm finally happens.

>>9979345
>20-30 years
Meanwhile a leaked internal email just came out indicating that Solar City is closing facilities in 9 states.

>>9978327
>infinitely recursive weak forced meme

>>9979802
Yeah I don't know a lot about Solar City's operations, but they are basically everywhere. Solar isn't great in every state for weather and politics, govt subsidies etc. In the SW it's huge though and pretty viable.

>>9979802
You'd be surprised at how much this industry depends on the local governments and bureaucracies being favorable towards it, like I said before it's not at a point where it can stand on it's own, but I believe that day is coming.

California? Everyone is a fucking hippie that wants to stop global warming and they are easy to sell it to.