/biz/ - Business & Finance

first for goyim

>greeks matter
>my gay algorithm for risk, implied volatility, intrinsic, etc matters

top kek, do you redo the math on each stock before buying it?

I trust the market intelligence to do that work for me so I can focus on higher levels of thought only available to HIGH IQ HIGH COGNITIVE capacity people

are options set by the market or nerds typing in greek letters to their calculator?

Become a CHAD investor.

>>9977144
>tfw offloading computations onto the market in order to focus attentions on higher level concerns, like searching the thought vector space

>>9977180
Exactly. Imagining wanting your thoughts to be perpendicular to humanity thoughts while trying to beat a game a ton of people are playing.

Bought TVIX today how fugged am I?

seems the momentum is stalling to me. bring on the crash

I like the AMD call idea but you timed it wrong senpai.

AMD is going to flounder till a bit after Q2 earnings then shoot up. There's also the possibility of a huge market destabilizing correction this summer which everyone seems to be better on. (Aug VIX 28 calls are up 20%+ this week). Waiting wouldve gotten you better value.

>>9977237
Explain, how would waiting for things to be looking better be better than buying when things look bad?

>>9977206
what does your portfolio look like right now? I think you have TSLA, AMD and do you have IQ? what else? bought desert land yet?

>>9977246
Things are going to look the same. If you think AMD is going to rocket up without any stops, then you made the right call. I think earnings is going to be a speed bump.

>>9977250
AMD 50%+
TSLA 350 CALLS JULY 6 (20%)
CASH (20%)
AMD 22 CALLS 2019 (small %, going to be $2000 soon, did 1/3rd today)

I hope you all die slow painful deaths

>>9977250
I'm not expecting a desert land ROI for years and years, no reason to buy and park money in it right now. Plus the more continuous land you buy the btter.

>>9977129
>Telsa Shorts Slapped
but telsa is down 5% today senpai

>>9977237
Feel the same. Continuing to load up on Jan 19 AMD puts.

>>9977300
>Day 2 day thinking
The day 2 day market is extremely low IQ. You should never look at it.

>>9977309
Why would you want puts on AMD?

I feel like this thread is full of animals with keyboards at their paws typing rnadom shit

>>9977328
Hedge, leaps hold value.

>>9977347
>hedge
I'm still skeptical of this concept.

>>9977328

We might see confirmation FUN trend reversal in 11ish days

Atleast it finally climbed back up to its strong support @ 420
If trend reversal is confrimes expect FUN go to 650!
Buy FUN!

>>9977364
Ooops

>>9977215
Tomorrow is probably going to be a bloodbath you're probably fine.

>>9977364
What program do you use to make these incomprehensible charts?

What's a good Price to sell NVCN?

>>9977263
You are hosed tommorow, OTM shit is such a waste. Just hodl I guess for it to clear up.

>>9977421
$9.90

Buy redhat.

fuck IQ is rank number 3 on IBD

>>9977431
>you are hosed tomorrow
I want to buy more tomorrow.

1/3rd today
1/3rd friday
1/3rd monday

$2000 into $22 jan 19 AMD calls.

>>9977431
I expect a bounce at the opening. that is when I will be domping.

>>9977636
make you check the greek omega phi theta bro before you sell. Get out your calculator like a s o y boy. Make sure the Gamma index is proper.

Imagine being low IQ and having to use greek bullshit calculators for your option trade.

but the time decay function.

who gives a fuck, seriously on X date you buy at Y price, that's it. Fucking low IQ nerds.

HMNY

>>9977696
> brainlets that don't know what choice is worth
the absolute state of biz

imagine getting into investing at the peak of a bull market and making year long bets on unhampered prosperity.

>>9977760
This is not the state of /biz/ this is the state of lolq. He is the only person this retarded, or at least to this scale.

27 year old boomer here

There was an Anon who posted a pie chart of his investments, I believe he went by "dividend bro".

Anyone have the last pie chart he posted? It was like 2 weeks ago and I lost the image.

He mentioned he had been putting more money into his account and has reached like 100k through deposits and dividends.

>>9977760
Okay, I've processed enough information to continue with the call buying. I might stop at 1600 or so though.

>>9977797
I've posted all my trades and thoughts in the thread for criticism. I'm transparent. $2000 into AMD $22 calls for 2019 is my latest trade, 1/3rd executed so far.

I've explained the reasoning enough for someone HIGH IQ to process.

>>9977814
If you're interested in dividends, look at T. Its trading at 6.5% yield right now. The stock might even see a rise (though outlook is mixed) when people realize the Time Warner buy was actually a good deal as Comcast is going to make sure Disney ponies up big money for Fox.

>>9977832
I used to find you annoying, but now I just find you funny. Although nobody here,uself included will ever have any respect or recognize anything you do because you refuse to screencap your portfolio like everybody else here who talks big does. Anybody can write a list of trades out and claim that's what they are invested in, but until you actually prove the money is invested, your iq will always be room temp.

Have like $6k I want to grow a little but might use it for schooling also, so I want to put it into a fund and not just a few stocks. Which funds do you guys recommend? People have said vanguard but I haven't checked any out yet

>>9977849
At&t?

>>9977853
>this response
You guys should be saying thank you for me posting my trades in here. I'm giving you access to high IQ high cognitive capacity trades. Even if you lack the cognitive capacity to replicate or have confidence in following.

>>9977894
Yes.

>>9977896
>IQ so low he doesn't know how to screen cap.
Look I'll post mine, lost a lot of money today and only have about $900 because I'm a poorfag. See how easy that was. Now it's your turn.

Also.

Just because I don't study how options trading works doesn't mean I can't use it to make money. The market value of the call is already set. I bought it at market value on a down day, that's all. When AMD goes up, I will make money. It's that simple.

Greek values and stuff would be a waste of my processing power and I'm pretty sure I already intuitively understood all of the time related factors without needing such calculators or guides.

The OTM tsla call worked out fine. So this AMD one should be fine.

>gone for ONE fucking day
> $IQ down 10%
>forgot to resubmit trailing stop loss orders this morning

Fucking kill me. What's the general sentiment rn? I bought at 50 shares at $40.50 so I'm down a bit. We expecting a bounce, sideways, downtrend etc tommorow?

>>9977696
You realize that most platforms literally draw the curves on option plays for you so you can see what your likelyhood of profit is by expiration. You are sitting on options more than one standard deviation from normal volatility, so you have an less than a 15 percent chance your options will be in the money at expiration. Untill they become in the money they will slowly decay to be worth nothing every day.

>>9977406
You make me feel high IQ
Ty
Me use TradingView with lots of custom secret expensive indicators ne haf suck alot of penor fir

>>9977938
Do you take hormones kneepad?

>>9977933
Jim Cramer just blessed IQ on mad money so it could go up tomorrow.

>>9977980
You mean this confirms death.

>>9977935
This is just math bullshit. If I'm betting on AMD 40, then AMD 22 calls are weak. You are explaining something intutive, that 22 calls become worthless the less likely they are to be below the price of AMD.

Something tells me it's exactly how I intuitively understood but greek shit is for low IQ people who don't just get it.

Anyway, I will post the options once I execute them all, right now I only did 1/3rd of my calculated total.

>>9977935
"normal volatility" is a historical measure. AMD, a shit company historically, just hit technological gold. Black-Scholes is not a predictor of the future. If you think your intuition will beat a random walk, it's not bad to bet as long as you only risk a tolerable amount. The odds are stacked though. AMD guy should go into it knowing that.

Ok /smg/ I'm cutting myself off. No more buying options till the ones I have now either expire or sell for value. I've bought stupid shit way to much, then my smart plays are only enough to break even. No more.

>>9977980
probably, lots of people listen to him.

>>9978076
This is more the reaction I was expecting from the thread. That it was very high risk and therefore stupid. Not that it was fundamentally wrong if I thought AMD would hit 40.

>>9978074
for once i agree with you. people trying to make it more complicated than it really is.

if you think it's going up. BUY CALLS.

>>9978121
Well it depends how much. I wanted to be risk free in the process of hitting +400% for a 12 month period of investing so I only went with 22 calls.

i might throw on a few hundred in 32 calls for lulz though.

>>9978074
You aren't going to be able to post them because they are going to expire worthless.

>>9977955
;_; no
Its terrible
Me no ask for this

>>9978147
That's the attitude.

AMD is worthless. The calls are stupid. Crash it tomorrow

Spent the month fucking around with different types of spreads/strategies to understand how options work more in-depth.

Just want to verify if what I did is remotely sound mathematically (if it's a good idea is up to debate).

Sell 3 GPRO 5.5 put at 0.07 each
Buy 3 GPRO 6.5 put at 0.34 each
Buy 3 GPRO 7.0 put at 0.61 each
Buy 3 GPRO 6.5 call at 0.54 each
Buy 3 GPRO 7.0 call at 0.31 each
Sell 3 GPRO 8.0 call at 0.08 each

Both buy puts place me at $285
Both buy calls place me at $255
Both sells place me at -$45
So my premium paid is $495

If GPRO never moves from 6.75 I will earn $150 combined from both 6.50 put and 7.00 call for a max loss of $345.

In return if I close my position .85 or further in either direction I'm in the green and infinitely so as it goes up/down.

>>9978171
Maybe when you get rich off of SPY puts you can buy them and complete your transformation.

Can someone post the angry GBR wojak?

The fucking retard TSLA sabotager email chain is out

https://jalopnik.com/heres-the-wild-email-exchange-between-teslas-alleged-sa-1827017800

You can see the guy is full of shit in it. Complaining about "waste" on a multi-billion product rollout and insulting Elon musk

the reply by elon calling him a horrible person is pretty justified.

>>9978338
Please, I may need this in the next couple of days.

Is there an open market on the dark web for 'insider information'?

>>9978384
It's all theatre. Nothing better could've happened for TSLA. They now have an excuse for failing Q2.

>>9978426

just post it here

we won’t tell on you

>>9978445
lol

>leak bad fake stories to the press for months
>cause more bad press with the shitstorm lawsuit news as the stock is hitting highs
That makes sense.

>>9978488
Think about it. What happens if they miss Q2 if this story didn't happen?
>360 -> 400 -> 280
What happens now?
360 -> 330 -> 300
The public perception has changed. This buys them more time.

>>9978488
Also
>leak bad fake stories to the press for months
This is exactly the intended effect. Now the stories are "fake". Forget the VIN registrations. Forget that the leaks came from plants this guy didn't work at. Now they are fake and from saboteurs.

you guys are too paranoid. If it was some Bog level plan then fuck yes hope it works. I take it at face value that it was a plant saboting tesla.

$400 by July 6.

Has TSLA missed on earnings? How are the reactions AH? Do they pump or dump 20% like a lot of companies around earnings?

Warning to CGC/WEED holders. Daily RSI is at 78 and your first support level is at $39 (CAN). Trailing stop loss this thing or be justed.

>>9978731
earnings aren't till 8/1

>>9978873
I just meant on previous earnings. Has there been huge increases or decreases on misses or beats?

>>9978197
Dont buy gopro options, very low liquidity. you wont get fills very timely

>>9978731
>>9978873
Bit unclear. TSLA earnings isn't the big Q2 date. TSLA promising they would be able to deliver 5k vehecles/wk by the end of the month is the big date. The best estimates right now put them at averaging 2k/wk with 3.5k peak a single week.

>>9978908
yep, I'm bullish on this. I don't want to touch tesla after july.

>>9978338
>>9978400
But that jump to 1.47 AH though. We better not need this. I bought 500 shares.

>>9978333
Kek
If anything me would testosterone & HGH

end of week pump tomorrow

>>9978183
t. didnt buy at $1
t. brainlet

>>9979021
>implying you don't love the cock.

>>9979085
As long as it takes micron above 60, I held my calls like a retard.

>>9979021
Don't ruin my fantasy kneepad, I thought you would take hormones to transition to a female and then I would marry you. What the fuck is this testosterone nonsense you are talking. I hope you misspelled estrogen.

>>9979085
Nasdaq futures red, dow green. Hurts a little bit.jpg

>>9977797
his name is hi IV now as far as im concerned.
dumbass nigga aint even no greeks an shieeet

>>9979117
kek
theres a reason the traps all call u guys "chasers"

>>9978854
was just trying to tell my buddy this. he looked at me like i had three heads when i told him i got my short sight on weed.

>>9979085
We'll see about that. It's been a red day for me every day of the week this week. Last Friday was a hell of a fluke. Tomorrow would be the fifth motherfucking red day in a row.

>>9979178
ah, the pleasures of being trans! everyone in the world thinks you shouldnt exist or should be dead

>>9979085
272 SPY tomorrow

>>9979117
>>9979095
////RELUCTANT//// kneepad girl
me no need estrogen.... ;_;

>>9979020

Anon delivers

ty

putting $1000 on FB during the dip was easily the best decision of my life

who else success story here

>>9979211
Once I get my lambo at least consider taking estrogen, that's all I ask. You can be my trophy trap.

>>9979188
>It's been a red day for me every day of the week this week
thats because its been a red week for almost everything and fucking no one noticed because tech was fine. im convinced the market is not only not efficient or rational, but also retarded too

>>9979198
i bet
i dont get the whole stink desu (other than this pisspoor optics by the loud ones), but then i was on /b/ as a kid so im probably just fucking desensitized to everything.

it does seem like the bar has been dramatically lowered due to the way the "slacktivists" have tried to make everyone involved somehow (which is obviously retarded as its a fucking personal thing). i feel the traps of old used to try a lot harder desu

wtf do i know?

>>9979252
kneepad girl is a femanon.

>>9979252
god youre gross and will die alone without a fuckin lambo, lol

>>9979188
/Dogs of the DOW/
get the Fuuuuhhk in here

Tomorrow we are buying CAT and holding banks to EOQ42019

>>9979266
wait a minute....is kneepad actually a girl and not a trap. I have to know this as soon as possible.

>>9979252
lol scoops ur pushin too hard m8

you gotta at least pull a bait and switch or sumthin kekkkekek

>>9979280
>buy DOG
so short the dow
got it, thx m8

I go to sleep praying $IQ bounces back to 43 tomorrow

>>9979259
well from the perspective of someone who considers themselves trans, regardless of if people here want to accept that or not, the term trap and the idea of being trans are different inherently.

trap has an implication of trickery about it. it justifies the violence that does happen to trans people under the guise of 'i didnt know they were trans and freaked out when i found out!'

the bar may have been lowered but it's completely symbolic. living as a trans person you are alienated, ostracized, constantly sexualized and violated. and just straight up blatantly verbally degraded on a daily basis.

i work service work. cleaning windows, doing gutters and moss removal, etc. and the amount of shit i get simply for not being masculine enough is tough to bare.

>>9979289
see what i mean tho? 'actually a girl and not a trap'

so most people who use the term trap use it interchangeably with the term trans. the crux of that is that they dont consider us even people. let alone our identities legitimate.

>>9979252
dude is literally reducing kneepad girls entire existence and identity to 'maybe she could sit in my lambo and i could suck her dick but im not a fag but also shes not a girl'

>>9979211
your TA smile, gone!

>>9979331
GAY

>>9979331
Are you a FtM trans?

That’d be kinda hot, especially if she was pre-op and was an “ugly man” but obviously looked like a chick - and was dominant

>>9979331
oh god we have one of these freaks

>>9979361
i am mtf so the least and also at the same time most desirable of the transess

>>9979379
Not hot

Though I think I’d relationship or at the very least tried out a MtF who through years of hard work and effort actually fucking looked and acted F.

>>9979331
Yes I use the term trap and tran as the same, i prefer the sound of the word trap. Are you a trap?
>>9979344
>maybe she could sit in my lambo and i could suck her dick but im not a fag but also shes not a girl'
yes and.....

>>9979371
you gave this freak some advice that i took to heart and that helped me a lot coming into the market place!

i do and always will appreciate that, and the kindness you showed me helped a lot. for a while there i leaned on your advice more than anyone elses that frequents and even exclusively at one point.

ive come pretty far, and am comfortable with my positions and portfolio now. so i guess its good timing hey?

but tyvm and its cool i wont overstay my welcome

>>9979379
not really, 99% of mtf are undesirable 50 year old men

>>9979331
>trap has an implication of trickery about it
the you werent here when it was created my fren. it was a beloved term, and a controversial one at that. it spread far and wide because of linetrap wo was a sweetheart about it. the maliciousness came afterwards and is more a sign of the times than anything else specifically

but either way dont waste butthurt on the word "trap" desu
its just chan shit
you think i walk around screaming bout faggots and shit ll time irl?
nahhhhh
idgaf if you murdered your own mother desu
im a libertarian, u see, i buy SILVER

certainly nothing personnel behind it
cant speak for everyone tho obviously, but ive always been sympathetic towards most of yall. ive known some irl and they were fucking people, and that shit seems like a nightmare anyways, so i dont really get the average perception that yall are doing it for fun (or whatever it is they think idk).

obviously i get why christfags are all butthurt, but theyre just being faggots themselves so it cancels out desu

>>9979419
thats just buisness!

>>9979298
yes good, short the DOW
fuel the Coal for the Bull

Posting here for full transparency for all my fans, dickriders, and asskissers.

my latest trade is $2000 into AMD calls for $22 in JAN 2019. I have executed 1/3rd of the total so far, with plans to put more in Friday and Monday.

>>9979466
High IQ reasoning is that it feels right. I wanted low risk so I didn't go for the $32 calls which I would have gone for otherwise.

OTM calls feel good, like a CHAD investor not a punk s o y boy who doens't like TRUMP

>>9979434
let me redefine. least desirable, most fetishized.

>>9979419
just dont get all butthurt about it if ya bring it up desu
wat do you expect?
were anon here, and doing what you did is just like tripfagging, so expect a reaction either way m8. you just put a target on yourself by doin that. and then it justifies drooling /pol/acks that yall are doing it for attention or cuz you want to

>>9979463
im just kidding m8
i think oil is gonna bull (after some horrifying bumps) either this week or next and stay that way, so i suspect the DOW will outperform Qs desu. those have to correct before going anywhere

>>9979448
didnt make you any money and it helped me quite a bit and also made me feel nice, so sure ;)

>>9979498
HIGH IQ HERE

do not bet on oil
do not bet on oil

BEAR ENERGY, OIL, AUTOS

now that I have said so you can see the light and trust my brain

>>9979516
sean?

SSEC -1% 52 week low

please braintards fall for the bear market meme

BKCC

yay or nay

>>9979498
whats the point of even giving a shit tho? all anon here, not anon in real life.

ive accepted that i am going to die directly due to transness. i dont give a fuck, ill be a cringey autistic on smg all i want. better than becoming a regular lurker and convincing myself theres a place here for me lol

>>9979525
yes thats me

>>9979498
>i think oil is gonna bull (after some horrifying bumps) either this week or next and stay that way
What's your reasoning there? I saw that futures went up (yesterday?) because OPEC wanna ramp up production.

>>9979498
>someone that is probably teh profit made a prediction
Time to sell the DOW and go long QQQ I guess

>>9979550
do you miss trappy?

>>9979568
i fooled you dumbass

>>9979571
ok sean

>>9979556
sell high, buy low!

>>9979581
wait nvm, thats the opposite of what you're doing. carry on.

>>9979466
Enjoy watching your $2K evaporate over the next 6 months.

>>9979482
iq... like... iQIYI or?

>>9979556
wait, aren't you that nikkie poster, or nikkae?
some shit like that, yea?

>>9979597
It's me, the Nikkeibro!
>p-pump it!

>>9979592
I will, I want full transparency. I'll post once it's done. Right now only 700 in

The power of HIGH IQ Is really impressive. See, for someone low IQ you can't percieve what I'm doing or why. I'm operating at some level completely imperceptible to your puny and pathetic conscious thought.

>>9979620
yea mate, comfy got gay for you; think he thought you died or something like that
dunno if you got to him about that, or if he got to you, but if he goes gay for you and you're wondering why-- just a heads up

IQ PLEASE RALLY PLEASE FUCKING RALLY TOMMOROW AHBHHHHHHHHHH

I SWEAR I'LL NEVER FORGET TO SET STOP LOSS AGAIN

>>9979540
hey all i can say is:
dont take everything so personal on here.

i can only repeat that over and over again
the people who take shit too personal online, or are loudhorns about everything like theyre on soc media are the people channers have traditionally flocked to in order to fuck with.

ya cant really expect any different, especially when you put it out there like that (tho ill admit it wasnt ENTIRELY unprompted as i was talking about it and calling scoops out for bein a chaser)

>ive accepted that i am going to die directly due to transness
prolly not tho
i remember i used to (subtly) shitpost on /islam/ on 8. theyre a pretty misunderstood group (lol) as far as im concerned. i remember one of them told me
>the internet is like a microscope, it makes small groups appear unbelievably large, and it makes large groups impossible to see
so dont go thinking everything on here accurately reflects irl, youre sorely mistaken, and itll make you paranoid af
>see: /pol/

part of the reason its happening anyways is because it would be bad if a lot of different people started getting along all of a sudden. harder to keep in the dark that way

>>9979555
OPEC ramping up will crash it
i think theyre bluffing because
>1) ur right, futures spread increased since friday sharply
>2) they broke (OPEC and KSA)
>3) dollar is too high and oil has stayed up ore or less, if dollar turns oil plays catchup
>4) rising (tho quiet now) middle east tensions
but as to why itll be bumpy?
because oil
its like a rollercoaster

>>9979556
im only tryin to get inside your head m8
this is advanced double reverse FUD

>>9979516
im gonna be sorry i asked, but whats your bear thesis? other than the vector alignment obviously

>>9979669
Not tomorrow probably.

>>9979669
A one dollar stop loss works pretty good. You may end up missing half a dollar in gains sometimes, but more often you save yourself from several dollar drops.

>>9979466
>AMD calls for $22 in JAN 2019. I have executed 1/3rd of the total
Are you trying to say that you've been buying AMD at $22 even though you could market buy in the mid teens right now?

>>9979665
I did die but was broguht back
Comfy should know Im 2D RatSexual

HAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-solar-exclusive/exclusive-tesla-to-close-a-dozen-solar-facilities-in-nine-states-documents-idUSKBN1JI013

Revenge of the shorts incoming.

>>9979677
fucking retard lol you don't see it hahahhahhahahhahahahhahahh. No seriously it's hilarious to me you don't see it and it's not obvious to you fucking brainlet low IQ piece of shit!!!!!!

LMAO

cuz oils going to be worthless, duh fucktard.

>>9979702
I'm buying contracts to buy AMD for $22 in 2019. Because I predict it will go to $40 by EOY. In that case the calls will be worth $17+ and I bought them for less than $1. aka 10x+, It's only 2k too so might as well, I already own over 50% of savings in AMD.

>>9979720
But what do you mean by the fact that you executed a third of them?

>>9979669
Real men don't bother with stop losses.

>>9979540
on the bright side, now that we know we gots a trap lurker/poster, we can finally complete pings vision (the one where he force femmed his newly hired trader at some hedge fund and turned him into his secretary who had to blow him everytime he wanted to place an options position) and safely (sans raep/psych torture) analyze the difference between trading on testosterone and trading on estrogen.

>>9979711
ah
no that actually makes a lot of sense
oil to be delisted
sorry goyim
its ogre
buy batteries from elon

>>9979707
>move to profitability
>this is bad

>>9979259
>im convinced the market is not only not efficient or rational, but also retarded too

Correct. Shitposting with money is the way an anon here described it once and I agree. Shitposting with money is exactly what the market is. Correlations to actual valuations are loose, at best.

>>9979727
I purchased 1/3rd so far, I want to by 1/3rd more tomorrow and 1/3rd monday (depends on how I feel the market is moving.)

>>9979728
this, stop losses mean you are low IQ and din't invest right. How do you even do stop losses LMFAO I never looked into it. Just buy shit that goes up.

>>9979711
Oil is used for more than energy

Electric is still a meme, real progress is gone on this front due to no more new nuclear memes. Solar is more pollutive than oil, but brainlets dont see it because this shit is all made in china. Wind is a good option but not eveywhere can sustain it.

Sauds like money, so im betting on that

>>9979734
>>9979734
You don't understand future projection

>muh oil reserves
WORTHLESS

They realize this and won't cut pumping much because it's stupid to do so. There's no value in protecting reserves.

Electric Vehicles are going to literally SHIT on oil soon.

>>9979740
Oh, you meant that you've bought a third of the $2k worth? I thought you meant you bought $2k worth today, exercised a third and were planning on exercising the rest in the next couple days.

>>9979743
If you are stupid and don't see the mixtures that will kill oil. It's not that OIL will be worthless. It's that what I'm thinking now will spread and more people will learn.

>>9979346
Nothin personally kids
>>9979252
Why you want take testosterone they ask x.x
>>9979344
Kek @_@

>>9979753
yeah I bought 1/3rd today. Plan to buy 1/3rd to 2/3rd tomorrow.

Not sure have to read the market which is why I'm waching how asia/EU moves.

I'm expecting a big short bull run in the next 2 weeks.

>>9979765
Basically I have to look for signs from some elder gods too before making the trade. I got a big signal today when the trade came out to 3 repeating digits in price.

China is recovering.

2,871.77 −4.04 (0.14%)

>>9979756
m-maybe
but no, the golden bull wont allow it

>>9979749
tell that to the guy who just put down $4.8M to buy a whole oil company the day before the OPEC meeting where theyre supposed to up production. and to the non OPEC countries who are all scraping together every last available resource to up THEIR production on the anticipation te OPEC is bluffing

oh and the futures traders
check the spread between CL1!-CL2! and.....
oh who am i kidding, i bet this is all WAY under ur cognitive capacity hi IV senpai

protip: AMZN weekly options is easy money

>>9979756
Wait, are you a woman that wants to be a man, that likes men, and wants to be a man fucking men?

>>9979756
so you're like one of the guys in my hentais who was forced into becoming a girl? now I have to rape you.

>>9979793
your shit is tarded bra, literally don't give a fuck what you posted or why.

>I WANT OIL
>OIL SO GOOD
>OIL GONNA CRASH SOON BUT I WANT OIL

>>9979755
>>9979772
>43 posts by this ID
lol, alright
oil's dead guys, heard it here first

>>9979806
also this.

- Electric vehicle force multiplier - Automatic Driving can lead to 24/7 utilization, aka taxi can operate at all times
- Lower cost of taxi service due to automation means more take taxis

The effect of EV on gas prices isn't factoring in properly. As more people realize this, which slowly spread and becomes more predictable (closer) people will increasingly value oil less.

It will be like a tipping point. ez, I don't think it happens next week but I think the people who think about oil a lot will not want to protect reserves and instead want to pump as much as possible to get whatever $$ they can from it.

>>9979677
Thanks for answering that question. I think you're right - it is a bluff.

>>9979812
this but ironically
Oil is commie shit
dumping my GBR tomorrow morning

>>9979669
you need to relax IQ will make you rich if you think long term. the ceo reported strong revenue from both ads and subscriptions.

>>9979885
oil and autos will be hit by the same exact effect

A massive exponential negative hit that just going into overdrive piling them into dirt.

>GM rises on news WAYMO orders a fuck ton of cars to turn into self-driving taxis

This happened, in this low IQ brainlet fucktarded world the AUTO STOCK went up on news that waymo wants lots of vehicles.

Think through that with above MONIKEY BRAIN IQ and you just have to laugh.

>>9979846
The specs they gave for the vehicle are impossible with current technology btw. Gasoline is 100x more energy dense than lithium iron batteries.

Tesla is the modern day Enron and Theranos combined.

>>9979805
she draws guro m8
im sure theres all kinds of weird shit goin on up there.
just take her for what she is. a staple of the thread.

>>9979812
kek you remind me so much of my irl buddy that im convinced its actually you. he trades crypto and is a channer

first name start with a G?
half poorto-rican?

>>9979756
i fucking love point and figure charts so much
theyre so excellent for simplifying things and allowing you to make more rational decisions

>>9979848
ive been confident that KSA has needed money since reading those yemen files that wikileaks dropped like two years ago (no one looked at em because ZOMG trump farted and/or is a closeted white nationalist, and lockherup praisekekekk faggot shit). and i KNOW that OPEC cunts couldnt even handle the LAST crash as all their shit went bankrupt alongside the US oil memes

>>9979896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1LbwdjQK1g

Have you watching Iqiyi tv shows?

>>9979910
Gasoline is very energy dense. Doesn't matter if you have a taxi service and electricity (cities have electricity)

>>9979885
id buy it back after the meeting desu
im gonna look for a better entry at some point, but that one dude buying 4.8M will definitely draw in some more folks

>>9979910
agreed
but he has more public and media support

the media tore enron apart t the end and greatly accelerated their fall (which im sure some of em were short for)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUqLfnNPVLg

netflix BTFO

>>9979957
>>9979920
Just bought the HK50

>>9979669

IQ down 12 percent. This is before the bears are even fully awake. Might be interesting tommorrow. Lets see how long Xi can keep pumping billions to keep it from 0

for those that don't know all of IQIYI's "best" shows are just IP theft of ideas from Japan and Korea. They recreate shows scene for scene, copying special effects, screen graphics, etc from Japan/Korean shows.

no LARP I think its time to buy Boeing again
its the next Netflix

>>9979910
for example, if enron was in the position where they could call up the media, set up manufactured FUD, they definitely woudve.
its kept TSLA afloat for months now.
they shouldve corrected hard 3 months ago.

he gets retail bears salivating, and baits them into piling on with 30% short interest, then all HE needs to do is write puts, and call up his buddies to squeeze the tards who naked short something that crowded. then he can take the wins off the puts and buyback shit and look like a hero (which he unironically IS for his shareholders. really goin the extra mile).

but its been harder and harder for him to find people to buy his bonds, which is what he really needs, given the amount of debt that monstrosity can create

thoughts on ABIL?

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/07/netizens-criticize-the-chinese-after-seeing-how-the-rap-of-china-blatantly-copied-show-me-the-money

>>9979911
>ive been confident that KSA has needed money since reading those yemen files that wikileaks dropped like two years ago
Fuck gonna have to look that up, but your hypothesis synchs nicely up with the 'liberalization' and 'modernization' under MBS, letting women drive and talk of privatizing Aramco would seem to confirm they're running outta money.

I remember reading a Bloomberg opinion column where it said that the compromise is to liberalize socially so that they don't have to liberalize politically (i.e. keep it in the hands of the family).

>>9979998
kek

>>9979930
EVs are well suited for taxis services, true. Their typical range is well suited for EVs and they can recharge at night during times of low demand. But taxi services make up a very small portion of total vehicles.Not sure that automation and EVs will lower cost by much either. Taxis are long lifetime vehicles and servicing EVs is 2-3x as expensive as regular cars. No ones really sure how long this generation of EVs really lasts either.

>>9980076
blah blah blah blah

just wait and see.

>>9979998
is not going to fail when iqiyi has 61 million subscribers and when they do a good job in monetization. also they still have 40% of Chinese people to reach and even more if they go global.

>>9980105
most important part, IQIYI puts in party propaganda into all of their shows.

>>9980080
Flying cars by 2001! If EVs are adopted early, it will be thanks to marketing, not technology.

>>9980135
I remember seeing an interview with Carlos Ghosn from maybe 3 years ago where he said that the only countries where EVs were selling were those where there was government subsidies or incentives to buy them.
I think the reason he was pushing for Renault/Nissan to get into it was 'first mover advantage'.

how do i get into this shit bros. Ihave no idea what most of you are saying or how to really read your charts but it looks fun and I want in pls

>>9980168
read everything

>>9980168
No one here knows what they're doing. Just pick a stock with a cool name and go all in. That's pretty much the strategy most used here.

>>9980051
>I remember reading a Bloomberg opinion column where it said that the compromise is to liberalize socially so that they don't have to liberalize politically
its hard to tell what this new king is up to. saudis play their cards close. frankly, i think hes just trying to play a little more above the belt than many of his predecessors and try to expand more of KSA to try and open up more opportunites to gain financially off of participating in the global economy (hence ARAMCO IPO). same kind of thing you see kim doing in norkland, he cant play bad guy forever.

how it is now, they basically export oil and thats it. they produce NOTHING, and have to import EVERYTHING to keep their people alive and happy. not to mention over half the pop is on essentially "welfare". those guys had the worst spending habits. and with oil as low as it was, and a costly war (since they import the command staff/mercs too) w the houthis, i think salaman knows better than to think he can get away w what his retarded, inbred cousins did (also why he seems more competent. they spread out the gene pool a little further for him lol).

but in regards to liberalize politically?
hes already done so. he essentially became king by cutting several of them in line (he is the OG al-sauds nephew. the rest were all brothers), and then once he had his plan set, he arrested like half his family. cue QLARP (brought to you by saudi funded US media like fox news) psyop to distract everyone from this happening.

but you dont have t do much to liberalize a monarchy

>>9980168

Read a book on stock trading. Watch some youtube videos. I'm serious about the youtube, there are lots of good tutorials on investing strategy and technical chart analysis. Set up a practice trading account (google this, there are lots of sites that offer this) so you can trade with imaginary money for a while to get a feel.

>>9980186

Yeah just yolo all-in on Tesla or something and ??? profit.

>>9980168
Just buy it
doesnt matter what the charts say
Just buy

>>9980188
Aramco ipo is because they know oil is going to worthless and want other retards to own the equity instead of them.

>>9979627
I really do wish you well. Hey, I'm an AMD fan. I bought my AMD stack in 2015 after reading an article about what Jim Keller had been up to. But, you are making a really low probability bet. Mathematics is your friend when trading options.

>>9980202
yolo in tesla is a great bet, this week has shit on them hard but still close to 350

>>9980250
It's meant to seem low probability to everyone. That's why I like it. If everyone had consensus it was a good bet the rewards would be low. It's a zero cum game meaning I have to be orthogonal thinking to really beat the shit out of it.

>>9980039
Please tell me more about this manufactured FUD. I felt very strongly at the time that Musk was trying to push down his stock price, but did/do not understand how he gains by it.

>>9980264
I like you. You're even dumber than I am.

>>9980285
intentionally slowing down tesla 3 production after hyping it up really high. To wait for new battery tech that makes tesla 3 more profitable.

>>9980285
What's not to understand about how he gains from Tesla being FUDed? He's basically the bookie who accepts the bets when people are betting against Tesla. When they lose, he gets all their money.

>>9980334
Well if the thing is all hype is he mortgaging his future and eroding confidence?

>>9980362
He never loses his $0Y fanbase, they'll keep his shit hyped up all the way into the ground. He's just trying bait wallstreet types.

>>9980334
His margin call is at around 230 now so he cant let it get near this.

>>9980362
Musk is getting ready for a huge pump in the next 2-3 weeks, might be slightly longer than that into mid july.

hopefully he hits the 5k a week by end of june then crushes the shorts with pure pump pr. In that case TSLA can hit 400+.

I'm thinking it might be delayed a week or two though.

>>9979677
my problem is that my irl is unsafe and isolating. i know that most people in my life i've grown and built connections with want nothing to do with that. i also know most people want nothing to do with trans people.
https://www.them.us/story/cis-trans-dating

and all thats fine. i plan on rooting my life and re-establishing somewhere where i can truly live. got nothing to risk

>>9979734
problem is T makes me disassociate hard would probably go all in on tilfrey.

http://business.financialpost.com/cannabis/cannabis-producer-tilray-files-for-public-offering-on-nasdaq-stock-exchange

>>9980264
>orthogonal
anti-parallel or inverse would be the correct term. Orthogonal would imply that no combination of others activities could match what you do. You aren't really doing anything different, just the opposite of what everyone else is.

>>9980385
If it gets that low, he just starts negotiating with apple to buy the company for enough to cover.

>>9980409
man fuck off with nitpicking

>>9980168
read books nigga
some anon dropped this the other day

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rq9DS_rEFIy8JrEeiDDqRhrviAy0Nnqj

now dont be an illiterate
this aint like crypto. there is a lot more to it trading real securities means youre actually trading a real thing.

>>9980213
i agree that its to raise cash.
but again, a move over to the US is gonna cost a lot for them. i highly doubt (since they control the price) that theyd go through all that just to cost themselves MORE money. oil is atleast going to hang at this level for a while. it will not go back to 40 as every oil producing cunt would literally starve

>>9980285
ok, so you know how elon is like the fucking golden boy for the media? they LUV sucking his cock.

well that first crash was caused by a credit downgrade, which caused his bonds to get dumped. TSLA needs bondholders more than stockholders. this spiraled off into that first crash. then came ER. he did all that silly shit, bitched out an analyst, and the media TURNED on him (never seen that happen, so i assume it was planned).

note: im just using this one as an example as i remember it well

now his stock is down and at unnaturally high volatility. so what he does is take ALL his money, and write naked puts with it (the high vega makes for even better premiums). retail bears see all these puts, all the FUD and buy them. then all elon has to do is get his buddies to hold, or squeeze the shortsellers up above the strike of his puts (which expire worthless and JUST the fug outta the idiots who bought options at historically high IV), and BOOM 100% trade.

hes done it a lot. afterwards, hes been buying a shit ton of his own stock as buybacks to keep the sahreholders happy. bondholders are a diff story, but soros just bought a couple billion, so that should stave it off for another quarter or so.

but i gotta hand it to him, he really goes the extra mile for his shareholders. its out of desperation, but seems to be out of genuine kindness

It would still be orthogonal because I am using no methdologies that investors use (I don't look at PE, EPS, volume, or anything like that.)

Also the measure that I judge the stock with is a simulated future projection of the world. While others do similar I doubt they would invest the same way as me.

It's obviously not that special but the "smoothness" is pretty good and low risk.

>>9980442
You really think you're the only one who uses metaphysical methodology in stocks? The jews have a whole system for it: kabbalah.

>>9979998

top kek

>>9980168
download robinhood
Work some OT at wagecuck job
Pull $500 and buy AMD stock at 15 a share

>>9979805
>>9979812
Oh god
Oh jesus
Me am going to be raped then murdered aren't me...?
Oh god me knew Universe gonna give me ironic ending for reading so much guro

>>9980525
The image I will always have of you is Iyami from Osomatsu.

>>9979720
If you're actually confident AMD will hit $40 EOY then you should be buying cheap $30 calls for that 40x potential. Turn 2k into 80k just like that.

Personally, I think 25 is much more likely outcome and would instead recommend buying 19s and selling 25s for an easy 6x if it hits or exceeds $25. I might put money on this play, but I'm waiting for a bigger dip first.

>>9980521
>Pull $500 and buy AMD stock at 15 a share
based

AMD 40 (EOY)
TSLA 400 (soon)

Anyone predicting Friday's AMD moves?

I am seeing it going positive back to 16+ but I'm hoping it doesn't.

>>9980188
Good analysis. Now I'm gonna have to read this Yemen Wikileaks shit.

So what's your thinking for near term (1-2 months) for oil?

>>9980525
>Oh god me knew Universe gonna give me ironic ending for reading so much guro
made me kek

>>9980561
I'm too bullish to predict a bigger dip. I almost feel like the opportunity may not be there friday/monday for buying more but have hopes the market is that dumb.

Yep, $30 calls are better, but I like 0 risk.

>>9980525
here, take this!

>>9980408
>my problem is that my irl is unsafe and isolating. i know that most people in my life i've grown and built connections with want nothing to do with that. i also know most people want nothing to do with trans people.
i remember what one of my gay buddies told another friend of mine who was dating a mtf
he was like
>well... i guess, welcome to the gay community
>remember, youre not here to change anyones mind. dont bother. youll hurt yourself

not everyone is gonna get it. its admittedly pretty far-out, especially since a lot of people never even knew it could happen. maybe theyre bigoted asshole mysoginistic (insert more buzzwords) creeps, or maybe its just too far out of their box to even rationalize it. it doesnt make them a necessarily TERRIBLE human, just one that is uncomfortable with something so "new" (new from their perception) to them. sometimes all it takes is a little time. but to the unprepared, its VERY confusing. ive met traps irl that dont even know wtf theyre doing.

the thing a lot of people cant comprehend is how/why anyone would do it to themselves (its obviously NOT for fun or attention seeing how most prefer to go stealth to avoid the bullshit). the reason they cant understand it is, like i said, because of most of the activists having TERRIBLE optics. trying to include everyone in a very small minorities personal struggle is not only ineffective, its also detrimental to actually helpin any of ya. so it becomes a soapbox for a bunch of people who either arent, or shouldnt be involved, and (given the times) allows some real obnoxious loudhorns to LARP that theyre some sort of civil rights savior. in reality, theyve often made the situation at lot worse by purposefully antagonizing the folks they should be trying to win over (or at least minimize conflict with)

idk, its fucking complicated and idk what to do about it. they say time heals all, but this needs some extra effort behind it, and a completely different tactic.

>>9980525
No i'm going to feed you eggs

>>9980609
lel yeah let him wake up naked on the side of the road 20 miles from his house, 48 hours later. Mama nature was pissed off the day she planted any of those plants. I seen datura growing in the fall. A field of it.

>>9980577
I have faith in you. If it hits my $25 target you'll still triple.

>>9980647
Ive got a brugmasia
Personally I smoke the stuff, feels good, no delirium
The delirium is cool too though

>>9980408
the worst part about it, is how your actual struggle for rights, or at least human decency, has now been str8 hijacked by interest groups in order to further divide people along easily polarized issues.

THATS the big one, and the main reason why all this shit thats supposed to HELP is makin shit WAY worse for yall. a lotta the SJW eceleb types are just useful idiots; they dont know any better and cant help themselves. but i know damn well that more powerful people see it as simply a way to guarantee votes for themselves and their parties. cuz lets face it, eve when the dems got the power, youre hardpressed to find one that actually gives a fuck enough to DO anything while theyre in office. theyre too busy trying to make money, increase power, and fuck each other over to get anything done. they just want your vote

similar shit thats been done to blacks desu

all im saying is, dont lie your life thinkin everyones out to fucking curbstomp ya. the vast majority couldnt care less. even half the people who are vehemently opposed to it dont actually give a fuck (they were just told repeatedly to hate you by their OWN controlled op (cough cough /pol/))

obviously keep ur head up, as those people do exist, but, like i said, you cant change anyones mind by yourself, and its usually not worth the time/effort. theyll get it, or they wont

>>9977311
WHy is it low iq?

>>9980738
you are writing far too much about this subject

white knight fgt

>>9980738
homo

>>9980807
The longer the time period the more accurate the market judges something. A one day move can be completely meaningless.

thoughts on Starbucks, biz?

>>9980812
whatever m8
i dont get all buthurt about someone wanting to chop their cock off. its a waste of time. what i dont think is a waste of time is trying to discuss it rationally (as it never happens, its just both sides kvetching and shoutin insults at each other).

>>9980738
lol

>>9980829
its a buy but a faggot analyst is saying its going down 16%

>>9980843
SBUX is absolutely fucked m8
that range you been trading a ded im afraid

Assuming someone thinks AMD is going to hit $40, waht would be the best call price for jan 2019

would the $32 calls be best profit or $20 calls?

>>9980853
no way
Now you have a starting yield of almost 3%
Theres no way it goes below 50

>>9980865
32 fo sho

>>9980873
What gives u so much confidence in it

>>9980874
I don't get it though, won't the $20 calls be worth $20 dollars

while the $32 calls only worth $8 each?

>>9980562
im hoping it does a rally

>>9980883
Their cashflow, thats all I look at
nothing else matters

>>9980890
nevermind fuck it, I'll stop thinking about it. The market value must price it all in. Can by 10x more options at 32 than 20. 8*10 = $80 per unit, while 20*1 = $20 per unit.

Makes me wanna buy $32 calls which is gonna be higher risk as it relies on less probably outcome and I'm only aiming for +400%.

Sbux also anounced yet another div increase for this august before the 4th quarter is up
30 cents to 36 cents cents, an even bigger increasse than the last

>>9980873
good point i forgot about the div increase compounding. guess ur just gonna have to HODL for a while. were those the guys u said the divs were set to double? or was that BAC

>>9980883
desu, it probably doesnt have TOO much more downside. its a pretty big brand. they can just spend debt to keep themselves afloat for like a decade and it wouldnt matter

>>9980890
lol holy shit m8
at least watch the options vids in the OP. you clearly know nothing about derivatives.
you can nuke your account (especially a small one) FAST even WITH knowledge of options by just trading them irresponsibly.

for the record: dont buy the 32 ones.

in fact how about a little experiment.
since ur so adamant about trading derivaties you dont understand. keep ur 23 calls (as you will not be able to get rid of them w out a big loss most likely) try buying one 17 call once IV calms down (ie way less than fucking 50). grab it on the way UP, and vol should go down. youll notice how vega affects the two calls differently while AMD starts moving up. the larger premium is combined w the 2.5x delta that those ones have, so while youre paying more, you will get aprox twice the return per contract per dollar move than you will with your 23 calls. at twice the price however. but in general, the calls that have higher premiums are the better ones (think of it like an insurance plan or something)

Holy fucking shit, I didn't even know RHT tanked so bad AH. Now I'm really glad I dumped it when it was $171.

First sell off. This will be big in China.

>>9980998
SBUX is increasing 50% per year
C is increasing 100% per year
BAC around 70% I think

all buys
Just buy it
You want a 50% yield on cost like warren buffet? BUY IT

>>9980890
i know i know
>b-but muh 40 EoY
theres a little thing you can do called a rollout where you flip the contracts, once they arent giving u enough lev, for higher strikes at a further expiry. this way, youll lock in profits and be able to COMPOUND your wins into exponentially increasing the amount of contracts you have each time (provided you continue to all-in on AMD). this way, you dont have to sit for two years with unrealized gains.

>>9980998
nah

I am actually more certain now that I'm making the right moves on picking 22.

>>9981023
N-NO

DELETE THIS

>>9981045
the problem is while they are deep OTM, they lose value daily. its a small amount at first but accelerates closer to expiry (and it will be a VERY big decay when you have like 100 contacts). no matter what your thought vector is telling you, its going to take longer than you expect. you are losing out on a massive amount of gains that you COULD be making if your hypothesis is correct

>>9981038
this post was good. Roll ups sound logical for this stock. So I buy the $2000 into 22s, sell them when it goes up a lot, and put the new money into a july 2019 call for higher amount?

>>9980865
If you think AMD is going to be 40by 2019 you should also be sure to invest in treebranches and nooses. Ill sell some naked calls to you for a good deal friend.

>>9981023
HUYA too.
It's chinese. Nobody should have been in it today.

>>9981075
sure, I expect them in the money soon though.

>>9981082
That's the thing. I also predicted no one would agree until about October.

By my flawless and impeccable high IQ high cognitive capacity logic your post just reinforces my correctness.

See: I predict 40 AMD, but I have a secret prediction that no one will agree for a certain time period due to having a faster and better brain than everyone else, able to better see the future.

>>9981076
try higher delta ones. AMD is a cheap stock, so you arent going to get very many dollar moves in it (and not fast enough to really deal w all the greeks that are working against you now cuz of your poor purchase price).

for OTM, the ones i like are 30-40 delta. it will basically be like holding 30-40 of the stock (and it will increase as the underlying moves up), and similarly, you will have a 30-40% chance of succeeding.

just dont buy at high IV. youll be fucking yourself out of a shit ton of money, even if youre right. this is exceptionally lo IQ whether youre willing to admit it or not

>>9981095
just try rollouts w a 17 and youll see pretty quickly how much more effective it is

>>9981127
So if you think it's gonna blow up, you'd buy $17-$18 calls, wait for them to go up, sell, then move up ahead of the stock?

IS that higher ROI than $23 calls assuming it blows to $40 EOY?

I don't care about risk, just ROI for the $2000. I already have stock in it.

>>9981095
also w the 17, since you are making less of a bullish call, it will require less time to get there. as such, you can buy closer expiry ones (like 3-6 months) at MUCH lower cost as you arent paying for all that time premium.

just dont trade contracts in the last month or so if theyre OTM, as theta decay becomes absolutely massive w those

>I expect them in the money soon though.
and im telling ya, this is a classic options noob mistake. it always takes longer than expected. and the people SELLING the calls have a vested interest in keeping them OTM most times

>>9981153
yea wait for it to turn and IV to fall, buy like 2-3 strikes out, let it go ITM a dollar or two, then rollout to the same deal with all your gains. if youre right and do it carefully paying attention to the greeks, you will have MASSIVE gains. what you did today is likely going to be less effective than just buying stock, and it adds unneeded risk. very lo IQ

tomorrow is going to be ugly

>>9981180
>less effective than buying stock
How does $22 calls return less than the stock purchase if it goes up?

>>9981153
also the nearer term ones have higher deltas once they go ITM, so once they pop, they pop REAL good, and FAST because of how gamma works

srsly, go learn the maths. theyre fun

>>9981190
i know anon. its ok, were all gonna make it

>>9980184
>>9980186
>>9980202
>>9980209
>>9980430
>>9980521
thanks bros, gonna get started reading and start posting with you guys

>>9981199
vega
youre losing 4 bucks a pop per %drop in IV. thats 5% PER %IV drop. this is counterintuitive as youre making a bullish call and since the initial FOMO will wear off, you will likely not see this high of IV again for a bit. when IV turns, it moves like 20%. thats 100 fucking percent of youre position (itll be slightly less than that, but im sure you get my point)

if you bought at lo IV, each percent change in IV UPWARDS will NET you 5% per IV% move

not only are you limiting youre gains and probability of success, youre also missing out on a TON of free money too.

>>9981228
doituwont

>>9981190
You think so? the dow has closed down too many days in a row. People might start saying the 'R' word if no one acts. I think the PPT B-Team is about to be called in which should be enough.

>>9981190

>>9981023
the bull needs a small break it will shoot up again soon.

>>9981086
huya scary is less solid then IQ but it has potential.

>>9981270
oil and industrials are gonna save the DOW
its tech that has me spooked. were at like dot-com type divergences between tech and the rest of the market. thats not healthy at all.

ive actually mostly been trading options on DIA, of the main indexes, lately as its been so volatile and has some catchup to do.

been thinking about moving over to the IWM, but i also feel i kinda missed out on it and its too late but it still looks like a good short if i see it correct and fail to get ATH again. check the heiken ashi candles. its obviously losing momentum and overdue for some pain. im shorting the bulltrap the whole way down

>>9981270

Yea, I think it's gonna be bad. real bad

>>9981398
maybe
this pattern on the S&P made me close a lot of longs and cover my vol short

its never even happened before on that chart in the history of the S&P. and why? someones looking to get out QUICK.

>>9981422
>>9981398
what is this cowardice

>>9981398
>>9981422
You don't get what is happening?

It's not the PPT. It has more in common with the TPP than the PPT.

Think deeper to what is happening and why.

>>9981422

fuck I knew it

>>9981442
>cowardice
im glad you brought that up nikkei.
i looked around sector to sector, and guess where i found that pattern again?

banks

>>9981460
i am
its just this shit site wont let me post more than 1 pic per post.

if banks are whats causing this, this is terrible news

>>9980613
>>9980738
ty. every idea ever is co-opted when attempted to be made tangible to primarily produce profit.

but i cant speak for anyone. I think in my experience though a lot of trans people generally just take hormones, and have no desire for surgery. growing up everything that raised me would adjust me when i wasnt masculine, and the way the world perceived me as a child and growing up shaped my perception of myself. i always kept my hair long as a little kid, and would throw tantrums when my family got it cut. on a couple of occasions in grades one and two i wore my sisters dresses under my clothes to school. as i grew up it manifested in a lot of disassociation and shame and dysphoria with puberty was a bigg one.

ultimately i knew of trans people for a decent amount of my teen years, but with my exposure being through things like family guy or south park or whatever i never really understood what that meant either as a concept or to individual trans people. i never really made the connection.

but i dont know. i distinctly remember being a 6 year old crying in front of the mirror not understanding why i couldnt be a girl. and if anyone just went up to me and said 'hey, you can, go out there and be girl' thats all i would have needed to hear.

we have such weird ass gender norms that are so incredibly ridged in this society. most trans people's dysphoria isnt necessarily nested in their 'parts' but moreso their characteristics that we've defined as masculine or feminine. like, look at body hair.

as a kid i had no conception of transness. at all. however, if i were allowed to pursue my own interests unchecked i'd be there.

most people go stealth because its largely about relieving dysphoria. unease with ones sense of self. in some cases its about gaining gender euphoria too. but a big part of it for a lot of trans people is walking that line between out enough that you are comfortable and in enough that you arent exposed and paranoid.

>>9981513
nah just saying if there is something weird in the market right now it probably has more to do with trade disputes and tariffs than anything else.

Just guessing but if there is intervention it makes sense to do so to help the market stay higher during the sable rattling. I'd assume China is manipulating their market as well to keep it higher.

>>9981485
banks are only down because bond yields are down
they are about to moon hard

>>9981190

Weed is going to be dicey. Canopy and Aurora are due for a sell off and I'm concerned stuff that didn't follow them up that much might still follow them down. Basically overbought sector leader dumps, causes whole sector to sell off even if that makes no technical sense for the stocks that are nowhere near overbought. Same thing happened a few times late last year. The obvious choice is to watch Canopy for bearish movement and yoink everything or at least tighten up stop losses, however there is a second possible scenario.

Second scenario is the sector uh, i'll call it a relay baton pass maneuver. Sector leader dumps, people take profit out and throw said profit at the tickers with healthier RSIs. This scenario tends to catch shorts with their pants down and triggers a squeeze, big profits on underperformers of the initial run.

So I dunno. Gonna be rough waters tomorrow and probably a very retarded power hour to cap it for the weekend.

Good morning /smg/

>>9981604
i wont say again wait for TLRY u win https://store.tilray.ca/en/blog/post/tilray-inc-announces-filing-of-a-u-s-registration-statement-and-application-for-proposed-ipo-on-nasd/

>>9981661
wrong link http://business.financialpost.com/cannabis/cannabis-producer-tilray-files-for-public-offering-on-nasdaq-stock-exchange

>>9981513
obviously this is happening similarly across sectors, but the XLF stood out to me because theyre practically identical

i remember this kind of movement going into volpocolypse last time
its like someone pulled the plug on the bathtub and shits slowly, almost imperceptibly draining out

>>9981560
perhaps
but im watching yield curve like a hawk
the spread is ridiculously thin. one wrong move and were flipped. even if its fine, at first, it signifies a major risk off for big investors.

>>9981591
bond yields are down because big guys as well as a lot of retail have been buying treasuries. dont care about wat retail boomers do, but the tutes gapping it up every morning (even w the pissweak yields), while theyve been selling off the banks every night (and ditching the way nicer yields) is the part that confuses me. maybe it IS just tutes derisking for tradewar FUD, but something has them spooked, enough to be doing this rather obviously

>>9981628

Who are you?

>>9981687
rich

>>9981628
mornin bud

>>9981687
hes the french guy
or one of em, idk how many there are. its a big thread desu

>>9981670
>wait for TLRY u win
deal
im looking at puts on CGC for now. its like a house of cards if that one falls.
THEN ill go long

>>9981695
Not really heh. Engineer gambling away his savings on stocks.

Bought in 2CRSI IPO 2 days ago, got my shares today. Let see how it goes.

>>9981714

I never knew we had euros here. I know we have an Australian and some Japs, but I thought that was it.

>>9981714
I think we are 2 french guys here.

>>9981778
yea i recognize you from your pictures, but i remember two guys responding to me when i was (poorly) asking in french if i could buy your sister off of you

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-06-21/china-s-epic-film-bubble-is-about-to-pop

>>9981778

I see what you did there

>>9981800
Chin up my friend. We're all gonna be free soon.

>>9981800
>we are
>oui
Mon Dieu! jeu de mots!

>>9981793
je ne sais quoi, je' m'appelle gille ducceppe! viva la libre quebec!

>>9981930
>>9981820
>>9981809

bonne nuit les amis

>>9981956
Je ne suis pas Franc,saise
BUT!
bonne nuit a' vous aussi

>>9981956
Bonne nuit les petits

>>9982030
le (((marchand))) de sable va passer

Patience pays the bills.

Uh oh.

>>9982214
>big bear

>Kalray and 2CRSI saving my portfolio
>Valeo and Bouygues red again
Investing in blue chips, not even once

I don't frequent these threads often so please pardon my stupidity, but from research and discussions with others, I get the impression that Tech especially in Silicon Valley is a bubble. My question is am I delusional? If I am correct, could someone present insight as to why and what the potential ramifications are?

>>9982353
Not delusional. Tech is probably in a bubble. The average tech company is not turning a profit and is heavily subsidized by venture capital money. If that money dries up (due to a lack of faith in the future of tech) the unprofitable companies will be forced to close, their workers will be laid off and products discontinued. Prices will rise as companies are forced into becoming profitable. Look at HMNY (Movie Pass) to see what it might look like.

The bubble could also burst if people realize that online advertising is not as valuable as they once thought. Google and Facebook (and many many other companies) make their money from ads so if ad money dries up, there will be serious problems at those companies.

Amazon in particular will be hurt if the tech bubble pops because of how much AWS helps their bottom line.

On the other hand, you can see a lot of success in Tech. Netflix and Uber seem to be providing a good service and will probably survive any bubble. Venture capitalists probably won't get tired of funding innovation and advertising seems to work. But it's hard to say. Tech valuations are getting absurdly high, one can't imagine it going much higher.

Oui oui oui oui

>>9982341
In French bluechips, only those in tourism and luxury are worth a damn
The industry is non competitive and destined to go bankrupt or bought out by the chinks or pajeets

>>9982753
Nah that's the burger industry you're thinking of.
So uncompetitive it has to put tariffs on first world nations to survive.

>>9982753
LMVH and KERING MOTHER FOCKEEEEEERS!!!

>>9982841
Well, LVMH is like GE, an investment bank that also sells products.
However, unlike GE, it makes money.

woah it's been a long time. rhg became smg?

>>9981685
Can you please check the spread also between 3yr and 10yr bonds the same way you are checking spread of 10yr vs 30yr? Let us know, thanks for your super valuable digging on that weird candle pattern