/biz/ - Business & Finance

350 becomes half that after tax. Half it again on rent. Half it again for health insurance. Suddenly there's nothing left.

>pay 120k/y in rent

>>9927122
with 90/130k pre tax in Silicon Valley you're pooooooooor

Watch this bubble

>>9927122
to be fair google engineers are the best of the best

>>9927122
>this is unfate, government needs to step in and insure everyone gets paid the same.

>>9927133
wtf is that real?

>>9927122
which coding language do I need to learn to make bank?

>>9927219
no, cali + fed tax takes around 40%.

>>9927122
>am codemonkey
>make nothing because my freemason father is a jew who doesnt pay me
feels batman

>>9927222
lol. its not just programming language anon. any monkey can learn a programming language. its about how you can apply the language to things like data structures, sorting algorithms, memory manipulation etc.

>>9927122
Code monkeys don't work at google.

>>9927222
>learn python
>practice 300+ leetcode problems
>interview with top companies and blow thru interviews b/c you have seen half the questions
>acquire 300k+ salary

Not that hard. Just takes time and practice

>>9927122
Startups should ICO. I read about a 2 founder team that raised $32 million without either one being a coder, with that kind of money you can hire the better programmers.

>>9927122
>make payment button
>retire in singapore

>>9927138
>pay 900k/y in alimony

>>9927133
My $150k salary in Atlanta is equivalent to only $290k in San Francisco, but I'd only make $180k max in that city. I picked the wrong industry.

>be plumber
>make 400k a year

>be google employee
>literally paid to google

>>9927306
Subtle Link fud, I love it

>>9927306
wow that's cool, how many programmers did they hire? they must have a huge team with that money

>>9927302
>he fell for the python meme

>>9927369
How the fuck is it fud if its true. And if you actually use "fud" unironically you're kind of a nigger.

>>9927286
>>9927302
both of these are correct. also 350k is on the low side, good devs can make 400-500k

>>9927390
Python is objectively the best language for doing interview-like questions on a whiteboard. C++ and Java are much slower to write by hand and easier to screw up.

>>9927168
>Thinks code monkeys who know how to program are engineer's

Fuckig kek, engineer's build tangible shit.

>>9927168
Not since they've implemented an Affirmative Action-like policy in hiring people.

>PhD in Plumbing from McGill University
>450k CAD any toilet, starting

>>9927122
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiE15Or6dvbAhUNIqwKHWSMAKsQqQIIJygAMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Fbusiness%2Fla-fi-shale-oil-boom-20180608-story.html&usg=AOvVaw3hBDpeK2isqVpg41XLFdDH

TFW truckers make 100k plus

>>9927602
kek, oil price is crashing again though

Can /biz explain why payscale or glassdor say about 150k gross for senior engineers at Google, while ITT people talk about almost half a million?

>>9927673
not for long

>>9927727
glassdoor data is almost a decade old now. also we are talking total comp, not salary

>>9927727
glassdoor relies on user contributions for salary, and they aren't always accurate.

also, people here saying programmers make half million are memeing or they're idiots. programmers have a definite *salary* ceiling that *roughly* caps out at 250k. most will never make that much though. yes, salaries at the big 5 are definitely higher. a programmer with a few years experience can easily make in the high $100,000s. the real money, however, comes from moving to product/management.

>>9927819
>t. never seen the google salary spreadsheet

fangs literally start new grads at 200k now

>>9927727
They're thinking about solution architects. The people who have to know how to program, design, project manage + get tasked with coordinating a large domestic project with offshore resources. It's pretty god tier and consistently ranks as one of the most satisfying jobs.

>>9927122
How the fuck can US salaries be so ridicolously huge? I'm a eufag and in my country a programmer usually makes 15-16k a year entry salary, can get to about 23-24k

>>9927970
Our money is worthless
Brb bout to go to my security job for $15/hr

>>9927331
>retire in singapore
Why? They have low income tax but high rent and cost of living. You have it backwards.

>>9927970

>>9927970
>eufag
>15k/yr
In what, Bulgaria?

>>9928029
It's a REQ joke, dumbass.

>>9927360
lol. underated

>>9928054
Sorry I don't keep up with all the newfangled shitcoins

>>9927970
lol are you from the uk? that is similar pay to here. like £35k. though if you are good, there are some hedge funds/banks that hire c++ programmers for *blockchain* stuff for £800k. not even lying. you can check on indeed.com and see for yourself.

>>9927219
Yes

>>9927560
This. Googles quality has noticeably gone downhill. Google "white couple" or "white inventors" or "american inventors." The rot has spread so deep it is now effecting search results, their most core product. I fully expect them to go bankrupt within 10 years.

It was the same at Yahoo. They started out ok, then hired Marissa Mayer as CEO because it was the progressive thing to do. She went on a witch hunt and fired all the men. They had like a 90% female supervisor rate after that. Then everything went to shit because women don't know how to computer, or how to business. They got hacked over and over and over and every email ever got released to the public. They got mass-hacked like 13 times, no joke. She bankrupted that company in less than 5 years.

>>9927560
>>9928130
Where do the best of the best go now? Apple?

>>9927219
no, hes retarded

I used to work at Google, and will be moving to Facebook soon

I have plenty of disposable income, plus I live in Seattle so I don't even pay state income tax while making $200k+ a year fresh out of college with my bs in computer science

>>9928039
nope, west eu

>>9928102
yea 35k seems accurate given the costs of living. still completely different from the US, what the fuck is wrong with america? Im super jelous. Gonna absolutely check the 800k thing

>>9927302
So you can do 300+ leetcode problems. What about the actual work?

>>9927133
Become a pilot and move to China, 300k tax free and live like a king on 20k/year

>>9927360
nice pic

>>9927133
Sf cost of living

>>9928148
>Where do the best of the best go now?
unironically blockchain. they create new consensus algo's, new cryptography implementations etc. and then get rich af.

>>9928319
name one top 100 blockchain founded by a former Big 5 engineer

>>9928329
none. because "the best of the best" are in academics not being code monkeys.

>>9928170
>what the fuck is wrong with america?
Nothing, we just print money out of thin air while you have to trade for them.

>>9927341
>pay 900k/y in alimony
how?

>>9927356
kek

>>9928166
>bs in comp sci at google/facebook

Nice larp

>>9929552
most new grads at google and facebook are bachelors graduates, are you fucking stupid?

>>9927122

>>9927122
>tfw half of those "engineers" are idiot shit skins and feminists to fill diversity requirements and do work in "web design".
>tfw when push comes to shove, Google relies on the people it hates most

>>9929707

At least you know what you are.

>>9927122
Living in california I would imagine 350k isn't that great

>>9927302
I think it should be accepted at this point python is the best way to jump into the coding world. My only other suggestion for a beginner would be javascript.

>>9929707

I don't know why the white men who built silicon valley and the American tech scene had to be such immense pushovers and be vilified in their own houses

Byproduct of clueless faggots without coding ability or tech knowledge thinking that they can just launch some startup, pay a dipshit pennies to make everything, and then sell it for a 10x after a couple years.
Very few tech startups are legit ventures. Most are designed to extract VC, then be sold (dumped) on a speculator.

>>9929670

>>9927122
Silicon valley sucks. Homeless everywhere and traffic, endless commutes and INDIANS it's like a third world country unless you can afford to live in one of the nice areas. But even at $200k+ most of your income will go towards paying for your shitty little house/apartment

>>9930012
Cont.
Housing development is so restricted that property owners can charge whatever they want because gangs of Indians will split the rent 26 ways and live in 2x5ft bunks. Real estate developers with government connections make an obscene amount of money from their monopoly (see Hong Kong). Tech conglomerates are lobbying and exploiting H1B laws to bring in masses of cheap labor while smaller companies have a more difficult time. This partly why the "sanctuary city" meme is pushed so hard. There is no reason to live here (and pay out the ass) unless you bought 20 years ago

>>9929849
Progressivism. Any non-explicitly right-wing institution inevitably becomes Progressive.

>>9929852
So startups are like ICO scams for rich people who are already accredited investors? No wonder it's so easy to make money, they can P&D pre-IPO stock and dump it on idiots.

>>9929611
New graduates who hold masters at least. The exception would be those who were lucky enough to get an internship at one of those companies. Over 2 million applications to google a year, you think a fucking plain old bachelor is going to cut it? Fuck I’ll give you the benefjt of the doubt and say you went to a top university, got in the top 5% or hell even 3% of your class cohort and say you had a chance at that. My girlfriend’s sister’s husband got scouted by google and that was during his master’s - he has finished a phd now and becoming a professor. Sounds like you arr larping from the very limited information you’ve posted.

>>9929670
>/g/ autists get interviewed

This is incredible. Truly fucking incredible.

>>9929670
>dont understand anything on the left side since i never bothered to learn any code

JUST

>>9930424
is the last example on the left page supposed to be awful? i cant tell if hes being sarcastic or not

>>9930520
Me neither I don't know shit about programming but I'm leaning more towards extreme sarcasm. It seems like he's done a lot of unnecessary shit that doesn't pertain to the main objectives.

>>9930287
If you go to a school like Georgia Tech, UCB, etc. and aren't brain dead, then you can get interviews at the big tech companies and get in (connections are massive). Almost every single person in CS at one of those schools knows people who currently work at the Big Tech companies and have "ins".

>>9930619
yeah thought that was the case. he did say in an earlier example that the candidate wrote too much code so im guessing that last one is about excessive as it gets

>>9927222
that's the wrong attitude. you lean whatever you need for the job. i've worked with c#, java, c++, c, javascript, haskel once. in all reality apis/sdks can take longer to learn than the language.

>>9927122
>350k
It’s incredibly hard to get a job at google, not to mention the cost of living + taxes/location eat up that salary quickly.

Startups aren’t in trouble at all. Google is too hard to get a job at

how come every programmer I've ever met is incredibly lazy and hates money?

>>9927122
>live in the most expensive city in North America
>work 75 hours a week
Kek, Google employees are slaves. Well-paid wagecucks but wagecucks after all.

>>9930287
im not larping, I interned at Google

The intern to full time conversion rate at Google and Facebook are very high, most New grad software engineers are intern conversions, and a lot of the rest a BS in CS

you literally have no idea what youre talking about

>>9930470
Maybe its time to learn anon. Most of those problems you should be able to solve by your 2nd week programming. How that one guy can program for 19 years and still not know is beyond me. Affirmative action?

>>9930853
because the job sucks the soul out of you

>>9930663
>>9930619
>>9930520
Yeah its not good. Its grossly excessive and parts of it dont even make sense. Like towards the bottom where he said i = finalArr.length. He never even populated that array so its just zero. Or null? I dont know ive never seen anyone reference an empty array before. Why did he even make a loop?

There are other problems too like when he was pushing his answers into his card name array at the top. So they would end up reading "KKD" instead of KD. Also if you are going to go this excessive you might as well call it KingDiamond, no need to skimp at this point.

>>9927168
this was true 10 years ago

>>9931015
also that part in the middle loop where he would set it to x = two, and then two = "H". Why not just set x = "H" and save a step? It also makes it easier to read.

>>9930894
Are you black or something? Is your skin the right color? Do you have a vagina?

>>9931095
the overwhelming majority of Google interns are asian/jew/white male

the only interns that looked more "diverse" were the EP interns, but EP is a tiny subsection of all google interns

>>9927360
pepes like these always make me laugh so goddamn hard

>>9928170
>what the fuck is wrong with america?
You're the one being paid less than what you're worth. What's wrong with your country and your negotiation skills?