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>>9896571
>>9896576

Hmmm wow. Depression or just low IQ?

>>9896571
Only fap once a week to every 2 weeks, also do about 1 thousand pushups a week.

>>9896571
How much time do you spend in front of a screen?

>>9896595
were all depressed

>>9896595
I'm thinking depression but I'm so accustomed I'm not even suicidal.

>>9896605

I don’t think that is true, Anon...

Literally me OP. I cant commit to most things other than work for more than 30-40 mins without becoming uninterested. I fap alot, and noticed once I stopped for a week dopamine was alot easier to come by and I became interested in things alot easier.

>>9896604
Any time I'm not in the gym or sleeping.

>>9896635
Yeah, there's your problem.

>>9896597
>>9896621

You guys might be onto something here. I fap at the very least 2x a day now.

Usually first time is around midday and the second time is right before I go to sleep.

Also me
unironically fap like 2-5 times a day

>All this nofap advice

if I don't fap I'm horny and all I can think of doing is fapping

>>9896571
Yeah that's literal depression OP - your brain's reward activation is dulled so you no longer get excited about novel activities which causes you to go into repetitive thought cycles.
You're trapped in what they call a 'Ludic Loop' which basically a skinnerian intermittent reinforcement of small 'rewards' which aren't so large as to leave you satisfied and to walk away, so you become addicted to looking at your charts. Same thing happens to porn addicts, gambling addicts, and people who are obsessed with social media

Only thing you can do about it is to 'gamify' positive thoughts, "little victories" as Arnie calls them - start looking forward to small activities that take only 15 minutes. Force yourself to complete them, and then scale up.
Some people will be like "lol, just bee happy bro" which somtimes works, but if it doesn't then you need to chip away at it gradually like I said.

Oh, and a final thought - figure out what you REALLY want in life, and determine WHY?

>>9896689
I masturbate in my sleep if I don't fap for 1 day or wake up ultra horny. Barely can sleep if I don't fap before sleeping

HELP ME BIZ

>>9896702
Do you really think it's depression or just a natural consequence of aging? I used to be able to "get into the zone" very easily, even if something as boring as homework once I engage with it long enough. But now, it happens very rarely.

>>9896702
>You're trapped in what they call a 'Ludic Loop' which basically a skinnerian intermittent reinforcement of small 'rewards' which aren't so large as to leave you satisfied and to walk away, so you become addicted to looking at your charts. Same thing happens to porn addicts, gambling addicts, and people who are obsessed with social media

That's the thing. There's really nothing worth doing besides shitposting on 4chan (And even that really isn't worth doing, it's just easy) At one point I had goals and actively worked to accomplish them. Achieving a goal gives you depreciating rewards with appreciating amounts of work needed. It can take weeks to achieve something...and you feel good about it for maybe a day.

Life is a fucking joke. Nothing you achieve will ever increase your well-being.

Computer addiction fries your brain. Try going without for extended periods.

>>9896883
The problem is finding something to do outside of being on the internet.

>>9896571

It’s a phase.

Do one thing per day. Every day for 30 days.

You know what gets me feeling better and motivated 1 an session of hot yoga. It drains you, it’s nasty but after you shower it feels great. Clears your head.

>>9896883
Oh yeah, last time I fried an egg I took it off the heat and left it a while and it reverted to its re-fried form.

>>9896774
What OP is talking about - especially the part of checking charts being the 'besides checking charts' sounds like depression.
The other thing is your perception of time may change, it's not that you're less able to 'get into the zone' but your expectations upon yourself and the feeling of time passed has changed.

>>9896868
> It can take weeks to achieve something...and you feel good about it for maybe a day.
Depends on the goal. I understand what you're saying: that over successive accomplishments the satisfaction of reaching higher requires more work and but your expectations are higher. It's not just a Red Queens Race - you're actually losing position. However if that's the case then you're doing something strategically wrong - your goals shouldn't stop giving satisfaction just because you completed them - they should be masterkeys that open up other things, expedite future accomplishments rather than just challenging yourself to hit the a higher metric at the same thing.
However realistically lasting satisfaction from goals comes it 'meaning' something to you, something integral to your identity. The brief halo of an accomplished goal will evaporate quickly if it's not something that is important to you or has any value.
Sure you could learn Mandarin, you can be proud you learned this complicated non-Indo-European language and then you go: "uhhh wtf did I learn this for?" because it means nothing to you.

>>9896979
*pre-fried

>>9896702
About to vidya
But drug addict.. and this anon knows whats up
Either do drugs to induce pleasure in small things, but be ready to deal with consequences

OR, do not sit home all fucking day fapping and watching charts.
Force your self out, exercise. Try to talk to 1 normie a day, eat better, meditate and mix up your stuff.

No matter who, anyone who sits at home all day will start to feel bored with their home activities. Confirmed...

>>9896571
instruments
>tried piano (keyboard) stopped after learning a few synthesia tutorials on youtube. couldnt even be bothered to learn music theory
>also tried an electric guitar i got off a homeless guy. i had to repair it too but never bought an amp. still the sound comes acoustically but i never continued after attempting a few songs off ultimate guitar

biking
>bought a bike and helmet to undertake downhill biking. i thinking i stopped because i didnt have anyway to transport the bike anywhere. didnt think that one through
>bought a motorcycle but at this point i didnt have enough money to pay for insurance and the one i bought off craigslist literally fell apart

art
>got several $200 carving knifes and 1 (one) block of wood. the most entertaining hobby i tried so far but stopped because i didnt buy any new blocks of wood
>bought a calligraphy set from michaels, dipped it once in ink and gave up after not even being able to form a letter or write properly
>also i tried to get into spraypainting/graffiti, its fun and has a lot of freedom and adventure to it but has a lot of drawbacks because its such a late night hobby

i guess theres more i tried especially as a kid (mostly sports) but im rambling on at this point

>>9896883
for little kids and brainlets... yes fried

For people who have a semi working brain... it dulls the pleasure centers when you are on it most the day.

>>9896940
you'll find "boring" stuff more interesting when you give up screens.

>>9896988
Those are all good suggestions
>Confirmed...
With Dubs no less.

>>9896571
You sound like a low energy person

>>9896979
>>9896994

look at this cope.

>>9896982
>However if that's the case then you're doing something strategically wrong

I don't think I'm doing anything wrong. To me it's simply the human condition that few humans ever catch on to. You want something, x, and then you work extremely hard to get x. The journey is rewarding because you believe x will be change your whole life( or month, or week). Then you accomplish or acquire x, feel good for a day/week and then go back to normal. Maybe you think to yourself "well, x didn't make me happy because what I really want is y" Then repeat. If you figure out this system (Hedonic treadmill?) Then x doesn't provoke the same response anymore. The Journey isn't rewarding. Why do x? because you want to? Desires don't always point toward value. Hankering for drugs or fatty foods tells you that

Then there are people who are simply happy doing whatever. Fishing or cleaning, they exude an upbeat attitude regardless of circumstance. This signals to me that happiness is partially or majorly genetic. For some, you can't win.

>>9897026
This is quite true anon... and i deal with the same issue. (which is why i pile narcotics and chemicals in my body because it is the only thing that makes me semi happy)
If you sit around and think like this though , you are doomed for failure.
I envy those happy go lucky fags that are always happy but i'm sure they have busy productive lives doing things they love.
Find this, and you win

>>9897026
>I don't think I'm doing anything wrong.
Well only you can judge, maybe that only applies to me
> To me it's simply the human condition that few humans ever catch on to
I don't agree with that and I hope I can explain why: I suspect that can only be true doing very superficial tasks because, well for example, let's say you want to be a competitive skier and win a competition. That regime, the time investment, the patterns of behavior, overall the change of lifestyle will physiologically, and mentally change a person in very deep profound ways in the same way living in another country for a few years will. Once you've won that competition - even if you don't - everything is different, and if you do win the competition your self-image, your sociological status changes. Those effects will last long after the goal is accomplished.
More to the point you totally ignored my point about 'meaning' which is the imprint a accomplished goal leaves on your mind - the emotional associations, internal symbols which affect future mental processing.
Does that make sense?
What I'm saying is I don't think that's "the human condition" at all - I think it only describes certain kinds of activities and a tendency to 'check boxes' rather than looking holistically.

>>9897172

Maybe I'm just depressed and I think of everything as pointless because of it.

>>9897190
That is a possibility and would match up with the way you described things and if it is the case you really should figure it out if it is the case. To put it another way - if you are depressed it's better to know you are so you can develop strategies to at worst manage it so it doesn't fuck up your life any worse, and at best fight it and overcome it.

You've said that you use to have goals and actively worked towards them so I'd start with trying to figure what precipitated that change - it was probably a slow process that really slipped by, right?

>>9896988
>Either do drugs to induce pleasure in small things

Weed is so good for this I have found. I love everything when I'm high. Wish I would have known about that before I fucked up my last relationship.

pretty much. it’s hard to go back to dumb hobbies when that time could be spent searching for a shitcoin that could change my life. so yeah i’ve become a degenerate gambler.

>>9897234
Just don't do it every day or you will ruin it.
Waste of money too.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/conditions/schizoid-personality-disorder

>>9897234
tread carefully fren
>weed head when younger
>ended up drug addict fuckin with H and crystal (along with anything you can name)

>>9897266
>>9897376

I don't do it often, I've always just smoked when with buddies but last time I had one of them get me some pre rolled cones from the dispensary. It can really make your day better but it also always makes me freak out about the current political climate, I get so scared over north korea and possibly dying in a war and shit.

>>9897227

It's over for me

>>9897271
Welp, my dad has schizophrenia. And the schizoid symptoms apply to me really well..

>>9896718
get /fit/ if you are exhausted as fuck you will fall asleep almost instantly + fapping after leg day is almost impossible

>>9897496
Why?

>>9896868
>Nothing you achieve will ever increase your well-being.
Exactly.
Only you can control your well-being by focusing your attention inside your body in the present moment.
Stop looking for meaning from the external world. Stop identifying yourself with your accomplishments and failures.
There will never be 'redemption' or a moment when everything is 'perfect'. All moments in your life are equal.
You have everything you need here and now.
Read Eckhart Tolle. If you have the patience, it will transform your life for the better.

>>9897507
Not saying its not true - especially because of your family history, but always be cautious of self-diagnosis
http://skepdic.com/barnum.html

>>9897271
oh fuck that.

>>9897507
I know it's reddit but this will be cathartic for you
https://www.reddit.com/r/Schizoid/top/?t=all

don't let it define you all the same

>>9896571
>I pretty much have no interests at all right now besides staring at charts to see if my shitcoins are going up.

You're just lazy, bro. Nothing special here. You're literally doing something that requires little to no effort. Actually, youre hoping for them to go up which tells me you dont know how to trade. fucking useless.

get some modafinil.

>>9896648
>>9896621
Nofap is legit, we've trained our brains that we can be rewarded for something that feels really good but requires virtually no effort. It will take a long time of nofapping (3+ months) to reset our dopamine and androgen receptors. My longest nofap streak is 3 weeks and I felt so good, was stronger, happier, more motivated and found things more interetsing.
https://imgur.com/a/g4eGH

I wanna start my own hedge-fund but I don't have access to capital so crypto is my way out. If I don't make it I have no idea what I'm gonna do.

might be worth to try this

>>9898577
>OPM
Your know Bridgewater started out as a one-man newsletter, then they scaled up turned into advisors, then in 1989 they were like
>Fuck it, we'll handle your money directly
160bn AUM later...

>>9898633
Good post. Can anyone confirms if this works? Seems to good to be true.

>>9896571
this: >>9896883

My cousin has autism and nearly every moment he’s not in school or (usually forced) to be outside the house he spends glued to the computer watching YouTube videos. He has 0 appreciation for the outdoors and the beauty of nature, has never done exercise in his life, and has crippled his social development. He cares about almost nothing except what he sees on YouTube. It’s his life.

Yeah, he’s always had communication and interaction issues since he’s mildly autistic, but I remember how much more open he was as a kid and now he’s regressed a lot. Try to spend 1, maybe 2 hours max a day on your phone or computer. Go outside. Just walk around and be with the real world for a while.

>>9896571
when i was younger i wanted to become a race driver. however my parents didnt have enough money to elt me become one. since then, i feel similar to you.

>>9899596
Try it, at worst you'll have had a healthy week.

>>9896571

>>9896571
Looking at charts all day will not move them and you can make things much easier on your time working with a schedule, some alerts and algorithms. But maybe you need to do a bit more resuming and finishing and a bit less starting. Stick to things longer, finish something and then it will probably be easier to search what you want to do until you can know what really drives you. Stay busy and value your time, then you'll find joy using it and gifting it.

>>9896571

Throw your computer out the window and stop using Internet or cell phones. The problem is instant gratification is lowering motivation. Stop using my electronics for a week and I was super productive for once.

So when I cashed out a hundred of my Bitcoin in December I had this problem too, I almost killed myself because of it. What saved me was that I found a hobby I had never considered before and just went balls deep into it. In my case it was clowning, it turns out I really enjoy going to nursing homes and cheering up old people. I enjoy it so much in fact, I go every other day to a different facility in my city. I spend more time as a clown then in my street clothes. So maybe look for a hobby that helps someone else and it will sustain you.

>>9896605
the tru tru. this anon speaks it

>>9896605
*lazy
At least have the balls to admit you're too lazy to do things that will make you feel better.

>>9896571
Same here, anon. I started getting addicted to the internet when I was a teenager and it fucked up my life. I managed to struggle though, and even finished my PhD recently. But I've gone way downhill lately. I just don't give a shit about anything more. Don't have any friends or hobbies, don't want a job. I've been spending probably 10 hours a day on average mindlessly browsing the internet for the last six months. I've been trying to change my habits over and over again for years, but it never sticks for more than a few weeks.

I'm going to try the travelling meme for a while, starting next week. Want to cut way down on my internet time. Thinking of trying CBT too as I heard good things about it.

The secret is here:
All big changes start off small. Yea stop cumming so much. And just start being slightly active. Start reducing the amount of bad food you eat. Start being aware of what you actually do with your time. Start noticing bad things you do. Do all this and keep a written record of your thoughts. Eventually you will be doing more good things and less bad things. It's only natural. But don't expect to wake up tomorrow as a man ready to grab the world by the balls. It's a slow procedure. And it's hard. There's a reason why hard work and dedication pay off. Most people are too lazy to become above average

A lot of people forget especially today in modern society, and I don't see it mentioned here, that human beings are essentially social animals.

You literally need to make connections, help others, converse and listen, seek to understand, and be heard, and help people.

"work" merely exploits this trait. Even low-stakes socialization helps. Go out and talk to people, as if it is just like one of those retarded video games (that also exploit this same trait) where you talk to NPCs.

>>9900881
>>9900881
>>9900881

>>9897271
>>9898010
I have nearly every symptom of schizoid personality disorder but I try not to think about it because the more I do the worse the symptoms get. I highly recommend mindfulness meditation, if you do it consistently every day you will begin to enjoy things again and become more social/interested in people and empathetic. It's literally curing me.

If you ejaculate 3+ times a day, it's time to go out and take a walk. Just once in a while. Do something. If not you will start regretting it in 5-10 years.

>>9900881
This is good advice but I think you are missing the psychological aspect of this.

You need inspiration in order to do anything. If you told me to lift weights to get buff I wouldn't do it. I browse fit and those faggots really got to me. I was so inspired I lifted almost everyday without fail, exactly how they told me.

The results? I had a 6 pack, humongous muscles and girls would eye-fuck me all the time. Do you know how great it feels to have girls fawn over your body while you're topless jogging in a hot foreign country?

But anyway back to the point. You need inspiration. Psyche yourself up until you genuinely believe it.

>>9901293
Good lord I was in the grocery store days ago only to get a water. The cashiers are directly at the entrance (on the left). I already walk 50 foot in as I see this 9/10 fertile around 19 yrs old aryan godess eyefucking me while she is standing in the line. The way she looked I knew she was looking the moment I opened the door. I dont think much to it mind my business and only get the water walk immidiatly to the cashiers basically 15 people after between her and me. Standing in the line randomly looking up from my phone as I am waiting she literally is still looking at me. A bit later I saw her pure smile and heard she talking as she paid the (female cashier). And then she was gone.
Autism is not fair boys.
Even tough I became /fit/ through calistheics as a 6 feet 175lbs and have a asthetic build now. Face is also above average Id say and I dont follow every nigger street style/skinny jeans gay shit.

>>9900881

Good post anon