/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for Jews. Don't forget to buy HMNY, goyim.

ALERT

AMD 40
TSLA 375

TSLA will hit 355+ this week most likely.
AMD is not a sell, stay on the run till EOY

Cha Ching

I swear if we get a double thread again I'll kms

who here /got bogged/ during power hour

How much AMD did you lads buy?

elon musk just bought 72,500 shares of TSLA

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/13/elon-musk-just-bought-another-25-million-in-tesla-stock.html

>>9875637
lol
looks like YOU didnt

Don't miss TSLA under 350. It's going to rocket this month.

>>9875659
I mustn't understand the term correctly then

>>9875703
yea
-.05% on a day is not getting bogged bruh

when is the right price to buy Caterpillar

Have you bought SNAP yet anon?

>>9875653
How is this not insider trading?

>>9875846
lol

>>9875846

So glad I bought a $33 put on TLRD against my better judgement. Should be a good day tomorrow.

>>9875829
One of the worst investments on nasdaq. It's unironically pumped by boomers who don't understand social media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CztRvr7_5W8

I wish I could short privately traded companies. My lab bought some cameras from a company for thousands of dollars and they can't even fucking record a video properly.

>>9875973

>private
>traded

are you ok?

APHRIA YOU FILTHY TEASE

Pic related is the weekly MACD.

>>9875889
>November 2016
>Product has since improved algorithm to user specific from time based
>Dude in video uses Apple music as an analogy
>Apple doesnt give a fuck about their music platform, they just want to take users away from Spotify.
Is this your King? dot jpg
stay poor faggot
keep letting youtube boomers make decisions for you.

When AMD hits $20 the OP for every thread that day on biz should be lisa su

How much yall got invested into AMD?

>>9876128
>AMD
Zero us dollars

>>9876011
well get there man. im certain of it. that one has the possibility to easily catch up to canopy if they play their cards right

>>9876033
dubs confirms this

>>9876153
that must feel shitty but it will get worse when you check it and see 35 one day

>>9876011
>>9876157
Aphria is shit, even Aurora's price is about to over take Aphria.

>>9876226
aurora is going to get smashed for sure
at least aphria has some upside

>>9876251
It does but don't expect the markets to be rational. It's still going to bleed for a while.

>>9875846
Buying stock isn't insider trading, moron. Telling other people to buy, based on inside information is. It's a pretty fucking simple concept. If you can't understand what it is, you have no business investing.

>>9876265
i dont think so really. its shown the least volatility, and has a pretty strong support right now. im mentlly prepared for some big bumps, but im playing this one for a little longer term

>>9876335
Ok man but I'll buy the bags once it goes back down to 8.70.

>>9876302

it can be though. if you have info about the company you work for that the public does not and you buy or sell it would be. so really he has a point. it's a weird area because he's CEO but if he knows they just had a breakthrough and the company is going to 500 that's really no different than someone else doing the same thing with that knowledge, and they would be prosecuted for it.

I have very little knowledge of stocks and options trading. But seeing this thread popping againg and again, I got curious.

Are there instruments that theoretically allow somebody to x10 in a month ? I saw people wanking over x2 on wsb, and it's a bit depressing. Are there high to very high leverages (x100+) ? Any of you doing forex ?

>>9876128
150 shares, its about 10% of my portfolio

>>9876381
Yeah, just ask one of the trip fags. Making 10x a month is considered chump stuff here.

WHY IS THE FED KILLING OFF FREE MONEY REEE

>>9876381
lol

>>9876381
yeah dude we all make 25x if you dont make atleast 10x a day youre a fag

>>9876355
ha git fucked m8
thats probably one of the only weed memes thats actually gonna make a positive move on legalization

>>9876419
This.
>posting this from the swimming pool inside my swimming pool in my mansion

>>9876381
Buy NLST calls.

>>9876358
no one will touch elon

he mentioned battery breakthrough at the investor meeting.

>>9876432
Which is still 12 weeks away before sales begin.

>>9876381
Just buy TVIX calls with a very soon expiration date, you'll be there in no time.

>>9876456
Elon Musk is sure garnering a lot of haters.

>>9876456

didn't say they would, only that "insider" trading is vague and someone in a different position like a worker in the company could be prosecuted for the same thing.

I'm putting 25k in TSLA at open. How based am I?

>>9876381
Most ppl on biz are retarded. Once you realize this simple trick, you'll see how easy it is to 10x+ your gains.

What people try to tell you is buy penny stocks and hope that they moon. What they don't realize is that you just need to make 4-5% a day.

Here's what you do, browse biz and sites like stocktwits and see what companies people are taking about. Buy 1 or 2 in the morning, and sell by eod. Rinse and repeat for each day and you'll be sitting on 10x gains in no time.

Also make sure to get a trip so that you can brag about how good of an investor you are.

When I buy/go long a stock option and want to sell it for a profit, would me selling it be considered shorting it, or is shorting an option and selling an option two different things?

I'm still confused as to how you actually profit off of them if you're not actually supposed to buy/sell the shares once it expires

>>9876381
>he doesn’t make his own search parameters and algorithm
Never gonna make it.

LOL

>>9876457
which is why chose aphria over some of the others desu.
they already make money doin medical, and they will be able to stave themselves off during the lean times before sales come in. this allows them to keep their spending really high and, ideally give them an early competitive advantage over the others.

aurora is obviously in the similar position, however, like i said, i did NOT dig on those financials one bit, and the chart was too far up for me to wanna FOMO in on something im already expecting will dip

not to mention that news of a brand new facility in columbia (for aphria i mean). if they swing that the right way, that company is gonna blow the fuck up

>>9876491
post picture with timestamp

>>9876358
It's not insider trading if you buy your own stock, moron.

If he was going around telling people to buy his stock, because [insider reasons], that's insider trading. This "news" is after the fact, he didn't announce it, he isn't being accused of giving tips to anyone, he just bought back stock.

How can you not understand such a simple concept? Or are you just a neckbeard who is compelled to argue every fucking point to soothe your pathetic ego?

>>9876491
smart

I got 350 july calls early this week

>>9876381
In traditional markets? No. x10 is a pipedream. You're only going to score like that in margin trading, and you have to be either lucky as fuck making a bet, or have been doing it for years and years.

>>9875808
That’s a good choice to take a long position on. Value stocks usually are. You’ll be mad when it takes a huge dip like it has historically during crashes, but if you bought in literally any time in the last 10 years and held till now you’d be pretty stoked.

If you’re trying to margin it, you’re doing it wrong. If you want aggressive strategy, it’s probably not your stock.

I panicked yesterday and sold all my TSLA. Then late last night I counter-panicked and bought it all back at a $50 profit. After reading the news, I feel like a genius.

>>9876583

no you're just retarded thinking that acting on insider information isn't insider trading. you have some weird hang up that you have to tell someone about it, probably because you don't understand it but claim you do. rest assured, if you have insider info and buy or sell, even if you never tell anyone else, that's still insider trading and if the SEC ever finds out it doesn't matter you kept it to yourself.

>>9876501
Fuck options imo. You know how people say “stock market is just gambling”? They’re retards. But if they said “options/futures is just gambling”, they’re pretty savvy.

>>9876554
Aphria does have the best share structure and financials relative to market cap of the large LPs but I don't recommend choosing just one horse in that race. You'll be better off hedging your Aphria holdings with the ETF so you have some buffer if one you're not holding looks like it's going to pull way ahead of the pack. Weed sector does not trade rationally and won't get to a point where it at least half-ass reflects actual earnings/revenue for at least a year after rec sales start.

Always use stop losses to protect gains in this sector. It'll bite ya if you don't.

>>9876491
you'll be about 5K less rich soon!

>>9876718
Long term options are not gambling, short term options are in my opinion.

>>9876718
>not playing short term options on triple leveraged volatility ETNs

>>9876718
I was under the impression stocks were options. Please spoonfeed me the difference.

Pic related is me.

>>9876729
thats really good advice anon. ive been thinking of doing that anyways.
i wish there was a liquid options market on weed ETFs. ITM puts is my favorite way to hedge

>>9876777
Are you from /r/wsb or /r/robinhood?

>>9876718
I just want to make a pretty penny. I'm still floored I somehow made $12 in like a week on the stock market, but then I see other people in here making what I make in a week in one day, and most of them aren't even doing options. They just made that much from stocks in one day.

I just want to know what the fuck they're doing to make that kind of money on the market. Granted I'm probably going to spend most of my profits on lube for when Mr. Tax Man wants a booty call, but that's another thing.

>>9876748
what's the difference between short and long term options? Like, what makes one gambling but the other one wise business? I'm doing my best studying up on them but they're still extremely abstract to my monkey brain

>>9876777
its in the OP

>>9876770

Now you're playing with power.

>>9876777
>>9876790
>>9876799
Oops... Well I'll leave that post up so other people can call me a retard if they want.

>>9876770
i do this. you can get some wicked gains if you do straddles when IV is really low. the IVs move around like crazy on those things

>>9876629
just hold tesla the next 35 days and enjoy the easy gains.

Literally easiest play in the stock market right now.

>>9876770
actually wait i dont do it with short term ones. thats a bad idea and theres no vega left

http://blog.robinhood.com/news/2018/6/12/introducing-multi-leg-options-strategies

Robinhood is increasing their users ability to lose money. This is quality

>>9876821
investopedia.xxx

>>9876796
People who buy short term options are usually expecting major moves and handicap themselves because of time decay. If somebody is buying and option for 2 years out short term price changes and time decay aren't going to destroy you. There is a shit ton more to it than that and i'm no expert on the matter.

TSLA 348 after hours. The slow brains are catching up to high IQ people.

>>9875749
if it was +10% down to -.05% that would be a bogging, but I doubt he was up that much.

>>9876619
I got Dog of the Dows start
Need the good entry for entry

time to watch the think or swim options video again for the third time I guess

>>9875598
HEY RETARDS. MUSK DOESN'T CARE ABOUT PROFITS OR THAT YOU EVEN INVEST. HE WANTS DONATIONS. ENJOY GOING BACK TO $300

>>9877121
also donating to Tesla is fine if you're into that kinda thing, but saying "UHH $370 IMMINENT" is misinformation and harsh to the less informed users of SMG.

>he didnt buy campbells soup

>>9877121
>>9877145

you're fucking low IQ
I'm high IQ
Telling SMG 375-400 is imminent is me helping people make better decisions

>musk doesn't care about profits

you're fucking stupid

>>9877145
could be like AMD man. failed for years then finally a breakout. i'm sticking to calls only now

SO whens the market finally gonna crash, when can i short the DOW,NASDAQ, etc?

Who bought shopify.?

>>9877177
desu I think Trump's shitposting has saved us for awhile. PE is only 25 on the index, could be several months before we hit 30 PE again.

>>9877175
I have never posted about AMD prior to 2018
I have not been active on /smg/ prior to 2018

I am not "amd man".

TSLA 375 short term is a given.

>>9877177
how does it feel missing the rocket ship

>>9877174
We as a thread have already established that your IQ is sub 70. You can stop larping now.

>>9877174
>I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?
>TESLA GOOD BUY CUZ MUSK=GOD
You would be sucking the actual Tesla's cock all the way to $0. You're going to get dumped on by the end of this week and we'll see how you feel about your IQ then.

>>9877244
elon musk = god

never said this
also 350 calls are already up a huge amount from when I bought.

>mfw the one Anon who constantly posts "low IQ" memes fights 3 Tesla Spergs

Quality SMG

>>9877283
Then be realistic about his plans for his company. Oh wait, you can't, because deep down, you're in love with Elon Musk.
>Elope with Elon
>Elope with Elon
Elope with fucking Elon

>>9876128
All in

>>9877307
>no Wednesday podast
you let us down
you let us down hard

>>9877416
S-shut up, I-I'm working on the Friday live stream!!

>>9877416
Be nice, he's the only person around here doing something actually productive

>>9877121
>>9877145
A retard with your exact line of thinking told me AMZN was a garbage stock a few months and several hundred dollars ago.

>>9877439
I expect a professional show, no excuses

>>9877472
hey now, big five found another quality mid teens stock. LCI to the moon baby

>>9875889
This. ER was a disaster SNAP will be trading less than $5 within the year

>>9877512
wow what brilliant pattern recognition you have there. you know what? why don't we say every single stock is equivalent to Amazon? We could make so much money bro. You're gonna lose big time, but hey, maybe the professionals are wrong about this one. I'd recommend that you take a basic finance and microeconomics course in the near future, but it's up to you.

>>9875631
Why does everyone keep saying AMD will hit 40 EOY?

>>9877720
because they are poised to take a huge chunk of market share from intel particularly in the server market

>>9877364
low IQ emotional tard

AMD 40
TSLA 375+ within 35 days (might rise this to 400+ soon)

>>9877734
Delicious. Ok I'm aboard the AMD train now.

>>9877720
I'm the only person who says 40 EOY. It's because of high IQ deductions which you could not parse as a brainlet.

Go tell your doggy about investments with woofs and body language. That's what it would be like.

AMD 40 EOY is ez

>>9877741
>we have the highest IQs don't we folks
>states numbers
Yeah but what if it happens in 36 days?

>>9877283
Be careful those have no intrinsic value, time is not on your side its having a tough time staying above 345. I hope you have some time on those left.

>>9877754
Holy shit, this is the most convincing argument my low IQ brain has ever seen. I'm all aboard the AMD train, thank you high IQ anon.

>>9877759
man such amazing advice.

July

>>9877773
Okay, imagine two huge pyramid of triggers/reasons

That's the thought process behind it.

It's not something you could understand or I'd take the time to share.

>>9877754
This is low IQ only thread gtho

>>9877759
Also I have 8% in TSLA, so you should probably stop wasting energy. Own-fudding is a disease

>>9877788
Smart person but 8% is a lil low.

Redpill me on $LOCO

>>9877803
I'm a big boi brainlet who sold shrooms for BTC in 2014. It is not a small amount of money.

I know a guy who lives and breathes the auto industry and says Tesla is basically a Ponzi scheme at this point. To quote him:

> They used pre pays for the new roadster to get the 3 into production because the preorders on the 3 weren't enough for the first wave they were planning to build

> And they keep taking on big investors to use the money to pay off the old investors who want out

Make of that what you will.

Any Chinks here? Can you redpill me and give me a rundown on YUM China? (YUMC) they have a very unnatractive 0.25 yield, so I need know if you see a lot of KFC on the corners or perhaps Pizza hut, in China

>>9877855
Doesn't matter. Stock valuation is all anyone cares about. The momentum, brand value, and future possibilities of tesla are still all good.

On the contrary the other autos are terrible and Tesla is the only auto stock that is decent.

>>9877834
Yes, that's an alright strategy if you are being defensive. The TSLA going higher and higher is just so obvious I think risking a bit more is worth it right now.

so does anyone have an answer for my question?
>>9876501

If I buy one of these calls, obviously I'm going to want to sell it in the future for a profit then.
Am I, at that point, an options writer even if I didn't create that stock option? I just don't understand, they can't be the same thing because going long and short have very different levels of risk and I'm just confusing myself further now

Fill me in on what I am missing /biz/.
A Blue Chip stock pays a dividend that yields 6.2%/yr.
I can buy that stock on margin with x4 leverage at 3.2% interest. I can earn 12%/yr on my investment on just dividends alone. Why should I not do this?

>>9877920
because even a small draw down will cause your chart to look ugly

>>9877920
Well you'l get absolutely assblasted if anything goes wrong as you are leveraged. But really it's not discussed much here since the hot topics will always be the high risk high reward ventures.

>>9875874
holy shit (-18%), just one though?

Weed news roundup for today.

Globe & Mail synopsis on the House of Commons opinion on senate amendments, which are being kept, which notables are being rejected. House did a pretty good job on this I think. They rejected the amendments I thought were stupid and would harm the industry in exchange for ??? benefit.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberal-government-rejects-senate-changes-to-marijuana-bill-vows-all/

Canopy Growth quarterly financials to be released on June 27th
https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/canopy-growth-corporation-to-announce-fourth-quarter-and-fiscal-year-2018-financial-results-685419541.html

Forbes thinks Aphria is slightly undervalued
with a fair value estimate of $13.50 (CAN). This is not anything groundbreaking although Forbes does have more credibility than the usual yellow biz journalism sites that usually churn out these value estimates.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2018/06/13/heres-why-we-believe-that-medical-marijuana-stock-aphria-is-undervalued/amp/

>>9877920
Because you can make even more than that by holding SPY without margins for a year. 12% yearly gains is too low for people like us

>>9878252
based weed man

>>9877909
Long is calls
Short is puts
That’s the basic gist, but there is more nuanced shit that falls into long/short.

>mfw T falls today and my value penis triggers

>>9878588
>the absolute state of biz
Long = getting something (a stock, contract, etc)
Short = getting money

The term comes from they would break little sticks then match them later to verify a trade/contract was made. The person who bought would get the long end of the stick. The person who sold would get the short end. (Hence the phrase, giving someone the "short end of the stick".)

>>9877909
Google
>Buy to Open.
>Buy to Close.
>Sell to Open.
>Sell to close.

>>9878588
This is what happens when a coiner shows up in /smg/

>stop messing around with meme and penny stocks
>buy stock in a good legit company
>next day some “research group’ downgrades it and it crashes

CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

I love Pepsico brand Cheetoes
Did you know cheetoes are an extremely popular brand among Spic youth?

>>9879060
lol analysts are just legal insider traders. it's rigged m8

>>9879060
>5 different (((research))) groups
>50% variation in price estimate

>>9879060
Murphy's Law 101, my friend.
-It slowly bleeds to death if you HODL
-A stock will tank moments after you buy it.
-It'll moon as soon as you cut your losses and sell.
-A security will moon or slowly climb back up after it hits your stop los.

My day was going so fucking good, but I'll take this too I guess.

>>9879090
I thought everyone loved Takis more right now.

>>9879060

Yeah the blue chips being ""safe(r)"" thing is a meme. They are less vulnerable to some of the slimy shit penny stocks can get jerked around with but that doesn't mean they can't go down in flames alla Hindenburg on a moments notice.

so now that the shitpost has concluded what can we expect stocks to look like for the next week

>>9879295
At one point, I was up $90. I check again at the end of power hour, and my shit got JUST'd to -$25.
JUST
U
S
T

>>9879508
climbing higher at a cautious pace.

TSLA up a ton tomorrow most likely.

>>9878198
I don't have a ton of capital and didn't want to risk a ton of money on an earnings gamble. Every once in awhile I'll toss my hat in the ring, and this time it worked out.

>>9879548
I'm super tempted to FOMO back into TSLA, but I won't have any settled cash until at least Monday next week, and by then it'll probably be too late.

>>9879663
I'm about to go all in on calls

>>9876128
>TFW rest of portfolio TSLA, IRDM, T, VZ, S, etc.
How the fuck am i raping warren buffet's meme fund this hard? 22 months and running.

If you havent been holding IRDM circa since 3 months ago, you should neck yourself.

>>9879843
>Owning this much AMD
Holy fuck mate.

>>9879870
Yeah they gave me like 30k margin so i said "fuck it. i dgaf intel cant run on jew lies forever" and it was done.

HMNY is going to drop to $0.32 next week, then a couple days later it's going to drop to $0.27

>>9879870
you're not going to make it unless you have at least 1000 shares of AMD.

>>9879943
Thanks bought 100k

>>9878252
>Forbes thinks Aphria is slightly undervalued
hey
forbes copied me

How you guys think I'm looking for tomorrow? I feel most of these will even out either in the morning or afternoon.

>tfw TradeStation gives you commision-free trades forever cause I'm active duty

>>9879950
I bought $0.50 January 2020 calls on it on the off chance that HMNY somehow makes it.

>>9878853
I padded my dividend portfolio with 100 shares this afternoon. I might buy more tomorrow as well.

>>9880053
>trade with Israel
>die for Israel

>>9879090
What the fuck happened to PEP

It was climbing so steadily

>>9880207
>die for israel
>implying i'm not a comm guy in the airforce that has milked the fuck out of the GI Bill and made the military pay for all my cisco certifications and already have multiple $100k jobs lined up after only a 4 year enlistment
>tfw have Top Secret clearence worth 500k civvy side

Stay KEKED poorfag

>>9880259
desk jockey cope

>>9880273
lmao so mad that he isn't gonna be making $100k a year at the age of 23

sad!

>>9880259
>mfw the air force sends shills to smg
>top secret clearance to see trumps pee tape

>>9880273
very much

>>9880312
t. boomer who wasted his entire life for Israel coping

>>9880312
>$100k at the age of 23
I already did make 130k p.a. when I was 22 without having do Israel's dirty work like a shabbos goy.

t. software dev

>>9880343
h-how have you seen through my facade

>>9880365
>tfw smg gets slow so you throw out bait to increase posting

Fantastic

>>9880364
LMAO nice larp you old crustaceous fat lard of american made hot dogs

I'd lie on the internet to if I broke my back working 40 years in a labor job with nothing to show for it except a divorce settlement where I'm giving half of my income to my wife fucking niggers and kids who won't speak to me xd!

>>9879870

This.

jesus fucking christ

>>9880427
If you really think $130k/year is worth LARPing about, I feel bad for you.

Have fun getting blown up for Israel though.

yo i know nothing about stocks but im about to get into it through robin hood (lel).
one question why do i always see amd talked about is it like the chainlink of stocks or some shit and should i buy thanks

>>9880453
Lmao the projection is real.

How's that $50 take home into your bank account after paying alimony and child support? I feel bad desu

>>9880475
>shitposts about making 100k a year as if that's something to brag about and not normal for a middle-class professional
>gets butthurt and accuses others of larping when people tell him it's nothing special
lolk

>>9875808
$145 or less

>>9880483
>implying I think it's a lot of money
>implying I didn't just respond that way to the tripnigger thinking I'm some crayon-eating grunt

You'd think that after 55+ years of living on this planet that some people would develop average reading comprehension skills but I get surprised everyday

>>9877192
I buy KXS instead they do supply chain management software and incorporate AI into it. Used by toyota

>>9880531
Nobody gives a fuck if you're a grunt or not, you're still doing work for Israel's shabbos goy force faggot boomer neocon loser, kys.

>>9875994
People can still trade ownership, just PRIVATELY...

when trump makes his tariffs, should i go long or short on the nasdaq?

>>9880475
>>9880483
Just accept your both poor compared to the average american
pic related

>>9880549
Helping kill sandniggers is a net improvement for the world so it's A-ok in my book commie goatfucking manlet LOL

>/smg/ larping
I wonder what /smg/ erping would be like

>>9880605
>being proud of being a shabbos goy
LOL

>>9880501
why are /leftypol/ memes so convoluted?
they feel like the memetic equivalent to those long-winded dad jokes

can never decide who is more autistic. the gommies or the nazis

>>9880611
>implying i'm not just learning the inner workings of the military industrial complex so I can sabotage it from the inside and establish the Final Solution

Wouldn't expect an IQlet like you to get it so don't try too hard sweety :)

>>9880608
DELET

i keep asking everywhere this very simple question.

will trumps tariffs on china that come in the next few days be good or bad for the nasdaq??????

>>9880653
sure

Currently have a position of 30 stocks in AMD and would like to double that.

How would i go about this with maximum profit in mind. I'm assuming just buying on dips, but i'm new to this "make it" game and would like to know opinions and strategy from /smg to indeed .... "make it"

TLDR; I'm a noob and need stock advice for AMD

>>9880668
>>9880639
stop shitposting.

>>9880653

it's almost like if anyone knew that they'd be rich

>>9880675
What did you buy them at?

30 stocks is nothing. Also it's hard to psychologically buy into a stock at All-time-highs, much easier to hold.

>>9880636
>i-i'm not doing dirty work for israel, i-i'm actually infiltrating the military industrial complex s-so I c-can take it down from the i-inside!
That's some impressive coping.

>>9880686
i just wanna know if i should go long or short

why cant anyone answer me that?

its a very simple question but im a noob in stock trading so pls help.

>>9880707

>just time the market bro

>>9880707
Odds are in favor of long. Trump needs China for North Korea progress but it depends on a lot of factors. He can press China so they press on North Korea. He can not press on China hoping that they understand it's because he expects work done on North Korea.

I think the entire stock market is about to unravel in the next year. It will be winners and loser stocks much more than ever before. Meaning the best strategies will be in specific "winning" stocks. For instance most of Auto stocks will be slaughtered but a few might survive.

>>9880707
P R I C E D
I N

WTI futures got satan quads
dump confirmed

I'm going to be dancing tomorrow looking at TSLA

Almost makes me want to go all in, seriously all in, on calls for July.

price targets for Thursday

AMD: Steady to slightly down
TSLA: breaks 355.

>>9880707
>its a very simple question
lol why the fuck would we know?
its up a lot now. so my crystal ball says its going down soon.
watch yield curve. if it inverts, its too late and youre already ded.

>>9876128
800 Shares

I've hit a point where I make 1-2 grand a week consistently, which gives me another 1-2k to margin trade per week.

>>9880675
I only have TEN shares of AMD, and I want to punch myself in the balls for not buying more when it was around $9 a few months ago. ayyy.

>>9880874
Keep. Buying. 1709 and counting. Im not stopping until $20.

>>9880707
in terms of tomorrow, if it opens below 7220 you might wanna get lost

i dont why trump would have anything to do with tech tho
defense maybe

>>9880693
i bought them at 15.28

>>9880884
Should sell right before Q3 earnings no matter what though. The bulls won't price in the crypto crash.

>>9875598
I heard bayer bought Monsanto for cash. I can't trade it on 'hood, so I'll leave that here. Chart looks awesome to me.

>>9881073
I'm a little upset. Made some impulsive decisions lately.

>>9880675
Hold

my dick is so hard

>>9881063
low IQ

no crypto crash
video card demand is still high on people who held back or are seeing new low prices
PC gaming grew huge over the past 6 months.

I wonder what responses to me will be like when AMD hits $40 this year I'll probably just stop posting or change patterns so no one knows.

>>9881416

poor fag

>>9881589
Not a poor fag, poor fags have under $1000

>>9881558
never change biz.

who here getting ready to buy that sweet sweet T dip?

>>9881629
I don't know. All of these companies like AT&T are super uninteresting. They don't die fast enough to be interesting shorts and they don't do anything interesting enough to be long.

>>9881694
use margin or options (don't really) and they become real interesting

>>9881694
It really boggles my mind when for instance smg people post about the most braindead boring stocks like these. I don't understand why they want to play pretty much dead boring stocks.

GE for instance
AT&T
Milk / Dairy stocks
Some boring soup company

What's the fucking point. Do you just want to watch money do nothing?

>>9881710
Why though. You have plenty of good stocks that you can find that are undervalued or going way up.

Even garbage like twitter, snap, or netflix is more interesting than this because people will do the same mistakes as pets.com tardation and you can make money on the way up.

What's the fucking point of picking companies without clear lanes ahead and easy predictive capability.

>>9881712
>he missed the consumer dip
Really, Id kill myself

Rate my dividend portfolio /smg/:

FUSVX
FTBFX
KO
PFE
UNIT
F
APPL
JNJ
FRT
ADC

>>9880427
this is my dad atm, and now I feel bad for him... friggin control freak.
>mixed feelings

>>9881736
>missed consumer dip

So what?

I look at a campbell soup graph and can just imagine the boomers behind it wondering if kids these days just don;t like fucking soup.

>>9881750
Most boomers have really fucked up mindsets. It's like an entire generation of extreme blue pilled people or the opposite and broken Q-anon nuts. Something happened to boomers we don't know about. Must have been just too easy.

>>9881736
>>9881754
Consumers are going THROUGH the moon
You have no idea

>>9881754
everything comes in cycles, those stocks will probably be the hottest thing again someday

>>9881744
not very good, most of these arent aristocrats even

>>9881754
I dont worry about loss because world class companies are sending me checks. Can you say the same?

>>9881779
They won't be.
>>9881778
Depends how they can take advantage of better logistic capabilities. If it's a dominos or something yeah they have some upside if they innovate fast.

A soup company?

>>9881780
Yes, you will miss out on huge upside if you go for these uninteresting companies.

There isn't going to be a market-wide crash anytime soon.

>>9881712
Is money making more of itself really doing nothing? It's nice to have solid stocks. You can't be betting all of your money all of the time.

>>9881813
I dont think you understand that dividend growth portfolios outperform everyone historically

>>9881796
CPB
UNFI
GIS
THS
K
KMB
KR
Newel brands
LIVE FOR FOOD AND GLUE

>>9881825
I understand. If I had less predictive power I'd be more diversified, but still in growth stocks that can at least get helped by ML.

Imagine sitting in energy, autos, or something else that is moronic. So much of the market is dead-money walking.

>>9881829
>>9881829
>historically

means nothing. If you think the next 10 year will follow history you're fucking insane. I could do AGI in a year. Humanity isn't that much slower.

>>9881846
reee fuck growth stocks and fuck you
Dividends for life

>>9881830
Based milk. Based glue.

>>9881862
Prepare to be outperformed by a soup company

I can tell there are a lot of cryto cancer kiddos that have never had an 50% drawdown, you will

>>9881846
ML is a bubble.
>t. EE PhD

>>9881877
I'm planning +200% this year. I think that's minimal risk.

>>9881873
>mfw I FOMO into a soup company

>>9881882
ML is a bubble. Until you add the correct architecture and fix some flaws. You can't judge it based on current ML.

Even with this messy and stupid approach it's making progress.

>>9881888
>fast forward 20 years
>never sold a stock, receiving 14% of my annual income in checks spread across each month

meanwhile growth anon:
>receiving no income
>selling his ownership of the company to see a profit

>>9881935
The retirement stock meme

just stop you're hurting my brain

...so should I buy some TSLA?

Im not American so I’ll have to go through a stoke broker the old fashioned way

>>9881955
>uses dividend income to buy stupid stocks too

>>9881955
t. dogecoin holder

>>9881963
Do you like it going to 375+ and then selling it around 400+?

If that's enough of a gain for you it's fine.

>>9881906
The architecture is what made the ML "work". There is no new theory. It the same neural network research from the 80s but on modern day graphics cards. Control theory is showing a lot of promise, those boston dynamics guys already impress. But "Deep Learning" and the like are memes.

also
>I'm planning +200% this year.

my sides

>>9881969
dunno, I want to put my neck out with 400+ TSLA in 35 days, but I'm only a 100% on 375+

>>9881972
What sort of time frame are we talking?

>>9877879
The restaurant industry is very very competitive in China
You can basically find places that sell food virtually anywhere (in backalleys, public toilets, dog shelters)
Chinese people change their eating habits very quickly. New restaurant concepts appear every month.

Also, chink scam and dubious accounting practice

AMD 375 PUT 10$ Jan/19

Cost basis 1.3
Current Price .26?

>>9881983
It is. The thing people focus on and think about isn't that important.

When I talk about architecture I'm not talking about the neural network pattern. I'm talking about larger structuring and how you arrange all the different neural networks when combining it with a specific style of way of handling complexity.

It would be hard to explain. It's a combination of using fastest time algorithms related to handing complexity and applying some of the same lessons to AGI.

The gist is that you create a minimal viable AGI using simplistic vector spaces. A Geometric Algebra AGI in short, then bootstrap it through more complex things.

It's really interesting but I'm not incentivized like normal people.

>>9881987
>Tesla goes up
BUY BUY BUY
>Tesla crashes
SELL SELL SELL
Pottery

>>9881989
35 days

375+ 100%
400+ 75%

That's my prediction model on TSLA. At worst it might be delayed 1-2 weeks but I think you just have to live with that.

>>9882023
I made a simple prediction. Not sure why you are saying I am playing both sides.

>>9880675
>loong amd

>>9881905
Your boomer transformation is almost complete.

buy good year dip?

>>9882046
>>9882021
>>9882036
>lacks basic comprehension skills
>references how he isn't a "normal person"
>takes memes seriously
P E A K B O O M E R

>>9881994
>YUMC is a chink scam
b-but its pizza hut in china... doesnt that have good opportunity

>>9882060
nope just incompatible with your thought process.

by design

my thought process is some levels higher than elsewhere

>>9881983

>But "Deep Learning" and the like are memes.

"Experts" talking here again about things they don't even understand :D.

>>9882077
Fuck I'm so glad I didn't go to bed so I could witness this post

>>9882092
See the only thing that matters is my predictive accuracy. I already made predictions, tangible, that I also invested in. Everything else is relatively meaningless including our discussion. It's not that I' imagine you would believe me, rather it's simply toying around like a human with a dog.

>>9882115
Tell me moar, I'm interested now
uwu

>>9882021
If anyone uses AGI unironically, you know they have no idea what they are talking about.

>>9876796
I don't touch options, and most of my positions I close at a gain are long positions and therefore tax-free.

What's your principal, if you don't mind my asking? You probably just aren't heavily invested enough. If you're smart, you look in terms of quarter to quarter performance, not day to day, unless you're really trading high volume.

There's literally dozens of investment strategies. What are your goals? Do you want to put away a small savings (couple grand), and watch it beat inflation/bonds and grow to a sizeable nest egg in 5 years? Do you want to make 20k in a year off your entire life savings of 100k? It's impossible to give advice, because people are always looking for something different, and since they're so many different stocks and bonds and ETF's and mutual funds (you get the picture) out there to choose from, it's going to be really hard to coach you if I don't know what you want. There's a reason financial advisors are a thing.

Once you know what you want, it's all research and good judgment, and a hell of a lot of luck, so to speak.

>>9882129
I haven't done it. As I said it would take me a year, maybe end of year.

>>9882137
I bet your algo couldnt even beat reluctant girls stupid algo

>>9882115
>>9882129

You guys are fucking hilarious! Keep going please!

>>9882147
If I began working on it I would not tell anyone and it would not be a public thing.

>>9877855
Until I see earnings that hold promise of PROFITS, which I haven't, I tend to agree with him, at least as far as the stock itself.

>>9882087
Enjoy your PhD degree in knob jiggling ("parameter tuning).

>>9882202

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect

>>9879060
Don't listen to analysts. Look at operating/profit margins, earnings reports, and just general industry knowledge on whether or not they're a "good business". I've seen analysts give good financial reports to stocks that aren't even profitable companies, and have zero promising tech or market demand on the horizon. The only exception is perhaps things tied to politics that take a hit when something out of their control goes down, like oil, defense, or bank stocks.

>>9882155
When you think. Do you understand how imagination works?

Why it works?

Why things that don't behave according to expecting patterns seem out of place?

The complexity reduction inherent via imagination (end state matching towards a beginning state).

I simply have the best predictive model. That's why it's easy for me.

>>9882243
your model is gay

>>9882265
begin with two cocks
branch possibilities and see what matches

end states meet beginning states, that barrier is of lowest complexity

>>9882269
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

>>9882050
What? You really expect miners to artificially drive up the GPU market forever, don't you?

>>9882282

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder

>>9882222
>wasting quads on a popsci wiki link

>>9882297
AMD doesn't need miners and the correlation between AMD and mining was only in braindead low IQ people.

>>9882308
nope

>>9882072
I typed my shit in my bed
I am now looking at its metrics
They don't look too bad:
Nice margins
Low level of debts

But their sales have been stagnant for years

Also you can never be sure with chink accounting.

>>9882310

>thinks he's that rogue cool tough guy expert meme
>behaves exactly like the popsci meme
>tries to save face
>fails miserably

>>9882390
have never heard a popsci person express skepticism towards deep learning and this new wave of ANN "research". You are either talking completely out of your ass like every person with a STEM undergrad degree from a glorified vocational school or so invested into a meme field that you drank the kool-aid.

I
LOVE
CYPRESS
SEMICONDUCTOR

>>9882427
Nobody gives a shit about your credentialism, EE is a meme field for pajeets.

>>9882427

You didn't even open the link did you?

>You are either talking completely out of your ass like every person with a STEM undergrad degree from a glorified vocational school or so invested into a meme field that you drank the kool-aid.

You're one of those "autoditact" tough guys aren't you? Huge ego with zero actual knowledge.

Hi sirs, I am EE PhD sirs, let me tells you how ML is meme field sirs!

>>9876381
I'm trading forex. Can't seem to find other fags on this site though.

>>9882473
>>9882501
It is very important to be able to see things for what they really are or you will fall for hype. Do you have any idea where the field was before this deep learning shitfest? ML was making strides with manifold learning. Deep theory based connections. Principled approaches. Now? Everyone just shits out their "own" gimmick architecture, shows it does better on a certain dataset and publishes. The field is in a very bad place right now.

Do you know how the last neural network craze ended? The support vector machine took a big fat dump on it. This one just needs a similar catalyst.

Don't fight guys.

It's true that AI and machine learning hold a lot of promises, but so far they are still PR buzzwords. 99% of the time, businesses announcing "AI r&d" is merely renaming the big data department and staffing it with a few more interns.

t. work in that field

Hey /smg/ I've been reading some stuff about trading, and I'm super interested in starting out. I work a shit job and only have about 1k to start with. How fucked am I? Is investing and reaching financial freedom just a pipe-dream for us minimum wage cucks?

>>9882626
if you are poor, take advantage of gimmedats
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8880.pdf

>>9882596

Still haven't seen any arguments from you on why deep learning is a "meme" and "shitfest". I'm not even really invested in this shit it's just seeing the AI Effect memers over and over again just gets pretty boring after awhile. You're not a special snowflake if you criticize deep learning or such, you're literally a meme.

Anyone into the bio stocks? looking at SESN and VCEL aswell as CNAT for big moves! opinions or recommendations ?

Shorting is the only way to make money in Crypto now. Shorting literally is the new paradigm of crypto. I’m going to spread this on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube everything everywhere. Everywhere and everyone, Short short short short short short!!!!! Short to -$0 !!! Until not even 1 penny is left and then the BTC ceo will owe me money :) Did you not hear that everyone is shorting now? Omg like shorting is brilliant! BTC will ofc go down forever. You didn’t think that it would stop going down did you? Didn’t you hear? $5k by end of minute, $4k by end of hour, $1k end of day, and triple digits back to sub $100 end of week!! Shorting is the best way to success!! I’m writing a book on shorting. Shorters, bears and bitmex foreverrrrrr and everrrrre!!! <3 xoxoxoxoxoxox hey guys do you like shorting? Because I like LOVE shorting! Omg I love shorting so much! I love talking about shorting the market and how much of a genius I am for posting brilliant ideas about being a silly bear and shorting hehe! I love it how shorting is backed by technology too. Shorting is a new paradigm! I’ll short forever and everrrr ;) Ive been shorting BTC this whole time. I’ve been teaching others and I’ve gotten my neighbors and coworkers into shorting the market and we are all making a lot of money together shorting BTC and Ethereum. I’m really popular now among my friends because I’m making so much money from shorting the market, a lot of them are making accounts in bitmex now because of me. I can’t wait for this bear market to continue for the next 5 years until I have enough money from shorting to buy a house and hopefully a nice car. Shorting is the best guaranteed way to make money

>>9877059
yea, well, +10% to - .05%, I'd say you got bogged.
Mee too, a little, from +2.5% to + 1.6%.

NEW THREAD
>>9882795
>>9882795

>>9882795
PLEASE NO SHITPOST

>>9882749
There is literally nothing new about it. They just took regular neural networks from the 80s and added more layers. CNNs are great at image recognition, but all of that credit belongs to the people who made graphics cards capable of running these things at such a large scale so they could handle huge training sets. They are good for specific classes of problems and have extremely diminishing returns but the world acts like they will be AI jesus in a few decades.

CERU my nigga

>>9882822
Most people just can't take a step back, see the big picture and all the problems that still need to be solved when talking about tech. Especially people who don't know shit about tech. I like enthusiasys but they are usually pretty tiring.

>>9876302
>>9876358
>>9876583
lawfag here

of course buying your own stock can be, and constitutes the bulk of, insider trading, what matters is to what extent you satisfy the relevant disclosure requirements

>>9875653
He really shouldve done this on a friday to make it look like they hit 5k for the week. Could have asked for extra VINs to sell it too.

>>9882822
>>9882917

I've literally never seen anyone claim that it's perfect or that it'll solve all possible problems in the world. How is it a "shitfest meme" if it's pretty good at solving certain problems?

Again, this is you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect

>>9883100
There was an AGI guy in the thread. Elon Musk claims fully self driving cars soon without the tech to support it.