/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>9866151
>he fell for the plebbit shilling

>>9866151

>vaporware flipping vaporware

wow amazing!

>>9866226
>he misses the great rise of VeChain just because hes emotional and doesn´t want to be associated with plebbit fags

yeah with projects like the horsecum token up their sleeve there is no stoping the vengang.

>>9866261
>great rise of vechain
LOL

>>9866290
screencapped

>>9866364
screenshot it 100 times if you want, it's not gonna stop your vaporware chinkcoin from going to 0

>>9866400
and another one

w w w . f r e e g r a n n y v i d e o s . c o m

main net launch when?

>>9866400
>>9866518
I wish we could go back to the old good days when there was proper imaginative fud like shady-sunny

>>9866483
This chink scam is going to 0. No corporation is ever going to actually buy this garbage. If anything sunny will give away tokens to these companies and in return get their meaningless endorsement. Btw ethereum and bitcoin are also on the war path to 0. Who knows though maybe a smart contract based suicide pod will come out that will give you a painless exit after all these screenshots you're taking come to fruition.

>>9866151

Why would anyone pay for vechain or ethereum or neo when they can have their own instant and free ark chain copy with smart contracts?

>>9866585
go back to plebbit. I greatly enjoy the ignorance of people who are here just for the money and not understanding the significance of blockchain and especially smart contracts.

keep it up

>>9866562
partnership announcement when?

please tell me and don't ignore

>>9866585
you should tell that to the dozens of corporations that are already piloting blockchain programs utilizing vechain network

>>9866614
so what do you think is the significance of blockchain and smart contracts? i'm honestly curious

>>9866614
blockchain will never change the world. People like Elon musk are changing the world not an anonymous criminal named shitoshi or some autistic booger flinger

>>9866633
Honestly I know it’d be better for me to explain this to you but I’m hungover and about to have breakfast so just DYOR faggot. There’s so many people who have analysed smart contracts and there use cases while they might not be 100% accurate because people can have wrong judgment it’s definitely ignorant to assume they have no use.

>>9866717
>i have no idea why blockchain/smart contracts could be useful but some other people have and they said it's cool

>>9866747
Please explain to me how this differs from any other learning experience? Research, understand and then apply that knowledge to future judgment. I could have read said articles and come away thinking it’s horseshit and we’d still be in the same situation you described only vice versus.

>>9867364
I can help explaining that
>Research, understand and then apply that knowledge to future judgment.
<i have no idea

it's simple, you have no idea. you are just parroting what others say and try to convince _YOURSELF_ that this is going to be revolutionary aka this is gonna make me filthy rich and i don't even care if tech is gonna work after i dump my bags on other stupid people

ridiculously comfy

>>9867364
>vice versus

>>9867440
literally this

>>9867440
You don’t understand my point. How I interpret the significance of blockchain right now is second to if you do. Stop concerning yourself with my “coping” and why not try to understand the use of smart contracts so we can have a discussion. I haven’t parroted a single opinion or even said that they’re going to be used or revolutionary, only that to assume they have no use cases is ignorant.

>>9867481
Damn when you can’t contribute to this argument point out the spelling mistakes I make on this West Indies spice trading forum. That always reaffirms your beliefs right?

>>9867508
>You don’t understand my point.
Yes I don't. Even you do not understand it.

You just do not care shit about this tech. you just want to get rich as quickly as possible. And yes, you are parroting what you have read, you do not understand blockchain and smart contract at all. They have use cases I can ensure that. Have you ever heard about blockchain use case called
>Bitcoin
or smart contract use case called
>multi-sig address

Your <insert_random_chinese_shitcoin> does nothing useful, except make you rich if you are lucky or other people are even more stupid than you.

>>9867580
I gotta get the bus to the airport but bump so I can reply when I get there.

>>9867580
>You just want to get rich as quickly as possible
Yes, everyone here does, including you. Don't act like you're any different.

>You do not understand blockchain and smart contract at all.
I don't care, I don't need to understand it. The same way I don't need to understand how a sperm cell and an ovum makes a baby for me to put my penis in a vagina and make a kid. VeChain will make me rich.

>You are parroting what you have read.
Redundant argument, can be applied to anything and everything.

But please do tell me how your in depth knowledge of smart contracts allows you to own $70,000 worth of ChainLink and hold it until 1 cent whilst still being "comfy"

>>9866151
NOW IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY. GET IN OR STAY POOR.

>>9867803
Kek'ed

Venfags never change, just tossing up a reddit-tier word salad and larping as equity investors. I hope you pretentious brainlets hold to $0 and sudoku off my planet.

>>9867803
Unironically spare us by not reproducing

>>9868210
This. Vechainers are the worst.
At least LINKpajeets have a few decent memes.
Meanwhile these retards will continue shilling a coin that tried to scam them with a BMW "partnership" lmao

>>9868233
The difference between you and I is that I have the option to reproduce, you don't.

Comfy as fuck holding vechain.

We will make it. Rest of cancer linkies, REQ's, nano's etc will burn.

In fact they already burning hard. We at least follow BTC, but they all down at least 85%, nano is even down almost 95% down from ATH now.

KEK.

VECHAIN MASTER RACE.

>>9868234
you're going to lose money on a sure thing because you don't like what other people do or say about something

schoolboy, anon. you're not cut out for this.

>>9868328
i dont gamble, especially not on scamcoins like vechain
kill yourself scum

>>9866585
>on the warpath to 0
Kek stop trying to sound smart. You clearly can't say that

>>9868279
The difference is you’re holding like the retard you are while I’ll buy back once it’s below $1

>>9868338
you're the guy who continued to believe his horse business would sustain after every other horse business got into the car business

denial just works against yourself anon

go where the money goes

>>9868338
Kuehne Nagel, DB Schenker and soon DHL.

>>9868370
That’s right. Don’t forget Oxford University. VeChain will provide you with early retirement. Just keep buying.

The thing about VeChain that you fags need to understand, is it doesn't even matter that VeChain has real clients. This will not flip eth in terms of MC because it's fundamentally impossible for the network costs to justify it. The dual system tokenomics will hold this down. I've been trying to tell you for months now, but you're all too dumb to realize the truth of it. The tokenomics make sense for what they are trying to do, which is provide a stable and cheap network, but it doesn't make sense for me as a crypto investor.

>>9868507
Hmm I'm not a VECHAIN die hard fan, can you elaborate on this?

I like your reasoning, just want some details if possible.

Thx Anon

>>9868507
so.. what?
you're telling me that supply and demand doesn't exist anymore?
that my vet becomes less valuable as more thor is needed?
okay anon

>>9868507
>20bn of fees on blockchain in 4 years
~500b-1t mc

c u at $1,000/$10 ven

>>9868573
LOL

>t. brainlet

>>9868507
Tldr VeChain already mooned, but everyone knew that back in January. Did you?

>>9868573
>20bn of fees
>GDP = fees
Lol image coping this hard.

>>9868582

>>9868146
The fact that he retweeted that makes the project seem scammy like with the shit icos they showed recently.

There's a lot of positives to this project but the team seems like they care most about scamming money away from dummies.

>>9868626

>>9868531
>can you elaborate on this?
Vechain will never flip ETH!

>>9868573
Classic VenFag delusion.

>>9868640
It’s not a scam. Scam implies criminality. It’s overhyped marketing without repercussion because the world is never short of delusional dumbfucks like ones in this thread to “invest” based on the number of “partnerships.”

>>9866151
It's just been flipped by bnb

>>9868751
>price action under a period of a year mattering

>>9868781
>long term investment

>>9868684

>>9868781
you sound like a linkie

>>9868820
that projection

>>9868686
> it is not illegal in China to steal from foreign investors

>>9869248
not investors
try again

9k hodler reporting. where are my ven brahs at?

I think Vechain has a very bright future. Will probably make enough to retire off this within the next 5 years.

Will I make it with 1K?

>>9871081
would you have made it with 1k ETH in Dec 2016

>>9871113
1k VEN != 1k ETH. More equivalent to having 100ETH which is still not a bad proposition.

>>9871175
you could have bought ETH at the same price as VEN in 2016
and VEN actually has a lot more potential

>>9871216
>>9871175
>t. brainlet

VEN will exceed ETH's market cap?

Explain why, I can't see it

>>9871308
it's literally the only project in the entire plane of existence with more than a trillion dollars worth of companies dedicated to using its blockchain for their business.

it's going to cull the heard beyond anything you can imagine, including ETH. All ETH has is fucking cryptokitties and it can't even handle that shit. Its price volatility means no serious business will ever use it

>>9871308
Don't (you) me. I never said it would. I do think VEN will reach ETHs current marketcap in the future but it won't do it in a vacuum. ETH will get similar gains as well as BTC.

>>9871340
These partnerships aren't fluff like BMW? Are these partnerships actually, I mean ACTUALLY planning to adopt VEN's blockchain.

Where's the sauce?

>inb4 DYOR PLEB
>inb4 biz can't do anything themselves
>inb4 no sauce


>>9871342
(You)

Reaching ETH's market cap would be immense gains basically is what your getting at.

>>9871441
of course they are jesus christ anon get off biz for an hour and put an end to your conspiracy brain mode

you think pic related is just photoshop?
you think they could just get away with saying they're working with major global billion dollar companies without the companies saying 'yeah..no you're not, stop scamming people' ?
you think dnvgl publicly state on the regular that they will be using the vechainthor blockchain for everything for shits and giggles?
you think some of the most successful VCs in the last 20 years publicly back vechain because they're scamming everyone?

i mean, sooner or later a lot more people on here are going to have to check back in to reality

what did ETH have going for it before it took off? a different market for sure, but it was the potential in what it offered in terms of dapps and the like

>>9871441
>>9871583
here's what vechain did:

they said okay, eth is cool but businesses just can't reliably use it. so, let's get our buddies at pwc to conduct a survey of ACTUAL businesses and see why they are hesitant to use blockchain.

they then took those responses, forked ETH and made their own improvements, and said okay, here's how we solved this stuff and the businesses said okay sounds great now we can actually use it

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>>9871665
Vechain is order of magnitude more complex than ethereum and that is a good thing? Shit is going to blow up as soon as mainnet launches. I bet Vechain developers don't even understands the basics what they copy&pasted. Then they added 'improvements' and just hope that the shit is going to hold together. At least their blockchain is mutable so they can hope to fix their fuck ups.

>>9871890
I actually feel like betting on this. How do we arrange this?

>>9871917
I'd recommend smart contract but that shit has oracle problem and we'd need a third party trusted source. So we can't do this with blockchain tech.

How about just bet our money in the market. I'd love to short VEN but the exchanges are unlicensed and scammy so my bet is
>do not buy VEN

>>9871973
>oracle problem

>>9871998
So we bet on vaporware tech with another vaporware tech? Sounds fun.

Always do the opposite of what biz says.

This shit is going to zero, mark my words motherfuckers

>>9871665
So lets put 2 and 2 together here. These types of businesses weren't using Ethereum because the cost per transaction is not stable (free from speculation and volatility), or cheap. So VeChain comes in and solves these problems, creating a network that enterprise clients will actually want to use. Your mistake is in thinking that this will make you rich though. The selling point for their network is that it's stable and cheap! Their goal isn't to make money on the network anon, most of their money will come from enterprise software sales and support. Too bad you don't actually have a stake in VeChain the company.

>>9872023
>recognizes a true dilemma
>tech aspires to solve it
>"vaporwave"

oh anon, wheres the hate coming from?

>>9872165
Its all a game of scale desu. Why do you think somebody selling paper clips can get rich?

You motherfuckers are so stupid. VET has been nothing but huge marketing scam. You all worship this shit and unironically think you're going to make it. kek

>>9872231
true desu VEN is a complete chink vaporwave scam, sell everyone, pls

>>9872226
Yeah...but when you have authority nodes responsible for >80% of all THOR being generated, your little strength node isn't shit. So you get to be responsible for a dozen paper clips a day...congratulations.

>>9872206
Because the tech does not solve shit and it's vaporware.
>Hey let's make an ICO that provides world peace, our white paper explains the technical details so our solution is sound.

Also, this is a completely separate point, but the ICO boom was last year. Those of you banking on ICO platforms as carriers for the next wave of crypto money are going to get left behind. Smart money is looking at asset backed tokens right now.

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>>9872140
>always do the opposite of biz
>posts on biz that this token is going to zero
good strategy. it's easy to be a pessemist in a bear market.

>>9872165
in any network, its value is derived from usage. the more it is used; the more valuable it becomes.
this is especially true with the tokenomics of VET/Thor - as demand for Thor increases with more transactions, the value of VET increases. You can't FUD it, it's literally economics 101.

But that's even past my point, my point is that major adoption will drive out projects that are 2 dudes in their mom's basement with 'coin' at the end of their name, and money will flow primarily into projects like Vechain who are actually doing real things.

The same thing happened in 2000 with Dotcoms. It's so obvious to see lol.

>>9866151
imagine being this stupid. eth token over taking eth. gtfo.

>>9866151
why would a supply chain shit flip eth? btw, best chance at supply chain shit is iota imhos

>>9872341
Damn I didn’t know there were dumb investors still left in crypto but here you are

>>9872321
Yes, agreed. This is exactly why I'm not in VeChain. It's value is derived from usage, and I think it's still a long way from a realizing it's current valuation. Price is still hyper-inflated.

>>9872412
>trillions of transactions a year
>20 bil revenue by 2020
> 30+ partners already 250 more in the pipeline

Yeah sounds about right definitely way off from having any value for sure lol retard

WTC maight have a chance after all

>>9872412
its valuation is whatever the hell the next person wants to buy it for.

how do you anons not understand what markets are?

the 'value' i'm referring to in this case is the sentiment of the herd, just like was the sentiment of the herd buying ETH because they deemed it to have more value and it couldn't handle enough transactions to keep cryptokitties up and running.

meanwhile vechain will have more than millions of transactions every day by actual businesses.
how is it not more valuable than ETH?

>>9872258
why the fuck would I attempt to stake it lmao, im gonna wait for the Stakers to calculate the prospects of their profits and the price to act according to this. If you get a 4% stable dividend yearly on VET with an authority node, thats what the pricelevel should roughly gravitate to. look @ NEO

>>9872263
>Theres a problem in tech
>Multiple parties believe to have found a solution and are building it
>I suggest one of the parties that has described how to solve the problem and is testing the solution as we are discussing this
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE it wont solve the problem because you cant achieve everything by writing it onto paper (???)

this is your comment anon

>>9872412
can neither agree nor disagree with this, betting on any crypto is speculation, but with regards to pricelevels, for instance the NEXO token has been calculated by independent anons on reddit to be worth around ~1$ in a relatively close timeframe, however its priced around 15cts? right now.
Nobody knows true valueations until we see actual returns, if you make the arguement that all the prospects of growth are priced in, then all the speculation risk is priced in too. VEN might flip ETH, or just deliver on what its supposed to. Both things are big.

>>9872447
>trillions of transactions a year
>20 bil revenue by 2020

You honestly believe this shit? Not happening....no possible way. I get that math is hard for you, but maybe you should sit down and try to project some sane numbers...

>>9872507
Can you elaborate on what numbers are considered sane for you and give a precise reason why?

>>9872321
The economic model doesn't suggest that the value of VET will increase as Thor is used, as Thor itself will have barely any value. Secondly, ALL companies that will participate in the VEN ecosystem will themselves have enough VET and Thor production to NEVER buy from the market.

Don't get me started on the dumb gimmicky way VEN is diluting their supply to stabilize* the price.

>>9872507
at least 2 of the top 5 3PL companies will be using vechain. do you understand how many transactions a mid-level logistics company performs in a day? never mind 2 of the world's largest

>>9872543
VET generates Thor.
VET will always be valued higher than Thor.
As more Thor is needed, VET/Thor generation increases, therefore appreciating the value of a VET.

As I said though, that's further down the line. First to come is the culling of the shitcoins and Vechain are quite clearly going to be the leading blockchain company at the other side of that.

>>9872507
Lmao don’t even try to bring up math or critical thinking to venfags. They all gullible dumbfucks and will just quote their number of “partnerships”

>>9872480
Yeah not shit. The price is whatever the hell someone is willing to pay for it. Investors are going to be looking at ROI for this though, greater fool theory isn't going to send this to the moon and beyond forever. You won't see VET rise independent from the value of the THOR it generates all that much. There's a certain amount of room for speculation, but it's very much tied down too.

>>9872507
You’re fuckin dumb lol between China tobacco and the 2 logistics companies they have ( not to mention dhl in the pipeline) that’s gonna be trillions of transactions alone lol China tobacco sells trillions of cigs a year alone you dumb fuckin idiot

God damn I swear this board just gets dumber and dumber I guess it’s cause schools out

>>9872557
20B annually? Get real dude. Number of transactions isn't as relevant as cost per transaction. How much annually is a mid-level logistics company going to pay to operate on this network?

>>9872657
Brainlet...
see>>9872662

What, you think china tobacco is going to spend billions on THOR or something with their trillions of transactions?

>>9872662
you have no idea how much money is lost in logistics annually due to inefficiencies. like literally no idea.

companies involved in global supply chains are practically fucking gagging for a solution like what vechain is offering

and that's only one sector

>>9872662
The better question is how much they are paying while NOT using the network

Smartcontracts cut costs
Fast, Cheap Transactions cut costs
Information being readily available lowers the failure rate. The blockchain not going down or being centralized lowers the failure rate.

Its trustless, fast, cheap and accurate data.

In the end of the day we will just have to see, but trillions of transactions per year is absolutely feasible in the logistics industry.

>>9872662
There you going being a retard again lol “mid level” they have 2 of the top 4 in the world with the 3rd waiting for the ink to dry which account for trillions of transactions a year through shipping alone but if you had any sense of know how to research you would realize that’s not the whole scope of what they’re doing for these companies so factor in all the packages being tracked plus the trucks planes trains etc. then factor in the auditing end of that and whatever else they have up their sleeve for a majority of all packages shipped in the world and you think 20 bln revenue in 2 years is insane? Considering that’s 3 partners of the 300 they’ll have inked by the end of this year? Lol delusional

>>9872720
How about you cite your $20B source instead of misquoting out of your ass? That $20B figure is in both non-wp and wp, in two different contexts. It’s marketing to hype up gullible donators like you.

>>9872743
T. yet another gullible donator talking out of his ass.

>>9868146 GET IN NOW

>>9868684

Remember when VENFags back in january were SO sure that it'd hit $10 by end of january?

Then they said it'd be $50 - $100 by rebrand

And $1000 EOY

These guys are literally the most cucked, retarded normie faggots imaginable.

>There are people on this board who are unwilling to take a risk on the best crypto project since ETH
stay poor faggots

>>9873068
pretty sure that was everyone as the alt market boomed.

and then, you know, everything fucking crashed.

>>9873124
>ven will decouple because it has real use cases
Moving that goal post as well? Delusional brainlet

>>9873124

No you retard this was after the market crashed but VEN was just entering its boom.

>>9873242
BTC is cucked by futures now. It will oscillate between 10k and 6k.
Money will move into real products - same thing happened in 2000. Shitty redundant dotcoms died, real products flourished. See Amazon.

you're the one not living in reality anon.

>>9873280
>amazon
Kys

>>9873268
the market still crashed, taking everything speculative with it.
it probably would've gone higher than that had the bull market maintained.

what's your point?

>>9873305
see, there's your emotional side again.
that's why you're never going to make it.
amazon is one of the biggest businesses in the world right now and that all started from being a shitty dotcom amongst thousands of other shitty dotcoms, except they had a real thing.

>>9873359
I like your references and perspective, especially on the 2000 bubble.

What does your portfolio look like?

>>9873359
Lol kys. I sold on rebrand and may buy back when VEN falls below $1 or shows actual revenue. In the meantime keep doing what you’re good at: holding my bags.

>>9873486
100% VEN

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>>9873486
80% VEN
20% BTC

>>9873514
>>9873505
Only VEN?

>t. brainlet(s)

I'm so fucking comfy with my strength x node. I've been riding this crash with zero anxiety or lost sleep because I know I'll make it.

>>9873535
once again, show me another project with anything even remotely close to the prospects vechain has.
you can't
it's the biggest no brainer in the history of crypto

>>9873280
>Money will move into real products - same thing happened in 2000. Shitty redundant dotcoms died, real products flourished. See Amazon.

> China Hustle ≠ Amazon
> VeChain shit was around in 2015
> You can still find articles for it from 2016.
> Their crap wasn't going anywhere.
> Enter 2017 Crypto Bubble
> Shady Lu sees opportunity. Easiest way to make money is ICO
> Register Vechain.org in August 2017, start copying Ethereum, rip off entire EVM
> We started from scratch, we have great project

Even if VeChain ever makes money from Blockchain, Anons never going to make passive income. It's still Chinese hustle after all.

>>9873535
I got about 30% VEN, 30% NEXO, Rest is a mix of shitcoins, but LINK and ELEC are amongst them.

>>9873567
a movie made by a jew
oy vey, anon.

meanwhile billionaire VCs are backing vechain. but of course you're right cus you watched a movie made by a jew.

>>9873582
Lmao you brainlets still comparing folios while the entire space is on verge of death. I hate to meet you in new life. I’d probably feel really sorry for your poor stupid ass.

>>9873558
OMG
JNT

May not be partnered up with half the world and BMW start-up garage (*breaths in*), but they are well on their way, especially JNT.

It's all about tokenizing assets.

>t. brainlet

>>9873646
great anon. come back when they have anything that actually exists.

>>9866642
*Snap*

>>9873636
>entire space on the verge of death

its more healthier now than it ever has been since inception, try to argue against that

>>9873669
The rumor is true..

*breaths in*

Okay Haroon I'll buy a small bag, if your right it will 1000x top kek'd

>>9873711
>tehe
leave your underage b& unfunny shit at the door faggot.
oh yeah, and bmw will be a customer of vechain, so your post is counterproductive.

>>9873744
>80% VEN and 20% BTC
are you me?

>>9874208
>>9873744
>t. brainlet(s)

*breaths in*

AHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHA

>>9872743
20B in network fees annually is absolutely delusional. You're talking about Vechains value in providing auditing solutions and whatever else, but that's something else entirely. I'm not arguing against VeChain as a company being successful, I'm sure they'll make a lot of money providing these kids of solutions....the network is a separate revenue stream though and you've just bought access to the network. You aren't invested in VeChain.

>>9873597
The VeChain network, or VeChain the company? ...big difference brainlet. Of course VC money is backing VeChain the company. They aren't scrambling to buy your neet coins through are they...?

>>9874466
when will you anons get through your head that nobody here actually cares about tech or achievements in relation to themselves.

everybody cares about tech and achievements as far as it increases the value of the thing they are trying to flip. VEN has both of those and that's why it's a sure thing to make some god damn money.

>>9874518
Yeah right dude. This thing mooned already and hasn't gone anywhere near it's ATH again...sure thing huh, with it's advanced tech and achievements. kek.

>>9874555
>muh mooned already
show me anything else that has done what you just said
retard
go back to 5th grade

>>9874575
I'm not the one who thinks this is going to rise above it's actual value...that's you anon.

>>9874610
and what's its actual value based on anon

>>9874618
The markets consumption of THOR

>>9874653
no, its value is based on what the next guy buys it for.
markets.
biz is fucking retarded now.

>>9874610
The value is set by the market, not just you.
>>9874466
Owning VET is owning access to the Vechain Network through THOR. The Vechain for-profit tech company is selling dapp solutions to run transactions on the Vechain Network. The recurring profit for the Tech Company, the non-profit foundation, and the VEN holders is through THOR. This is a new type of business model and one that I predict will make an entirely new class of wealthy individuals. You're literally arguing against big oil and railroads in the 19th and early 20th century.

>>9874681
You expect greater fool theory to carry this to the moon, and you're calling me a retard?
Why would I buy VET from you at $100 if the value of the THOR it generates only gives me 10 cents a day?
Good luck dude.

>>9874720
oh right, cus that didn't just happen with something that won't ever be used for anything (BTC)
oh right, cus that didn't just happen with something that won't ever be used for anything (ETH)
oh right, cus that didn't just happen with something that won't ever be used for anything (NEO)
oh ri..... + n
because a limited supply of VET you idiot

>>9874691
I see it, and can admit that the network stands a chance at becoming something worth investing in. From my perspective though, we're still a long ways off. VeChain isn't going to take off like a rocket on main net launch and leave me behind. I don't see it as a good investment today.
If ever that changes, I'll buy in, but for now there are other projects that I'm interested in expect to see better returns on.

>>9874866
You can't compare VET to any of these things because it actually is being used by enterprises for real things. It has a real market value...something measured. And again....it's dual token system keeps it grounded from wild levels of speculation.

>>9874869
fair enough. there are a lot of good opportunities out there right now with all the blood on the streets. take care!

>>9874466
Hey retard yet again forbthe 4tho time in a row looking like a dumb fuck never said 20 billion in network fees you realize they’re also selling and making their own chips nfd readers sensors everything right ? They have patents for tons of new tech like the ndcode liquid sensor but I guess that wouldn’t really fit into your dumber than dog shit narrative would it

>>9874518
>>9874575
>>9874618
>>9874681
>>9874691
>>9874866
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>>9875583
Spotted the bag holders

>>9875899
>bagholder
Bought all mine around 50 cents so yeah These bags are heavy as shit

>>9876013
I'll get in around $1 soon.

>>9875899
good eye anon

of course i'm holding as many fucking bags of this as my skelly little bizlet arms can carry. anyone who isn't is going to be a fucking neet forever haha

>>9866151
>an ERC20 token will flip ETH
I love this meme

Reminding you venfags again to read >>9868146 and keep buying kek

>>9876374
their code is public anon
retards on parade today

>>9873106
>There are people on this board who are more interested in turtlecoin than ven.

I like the hate though. I hope VEN never turns into the next LINK.