/biz/ - Business & Finance

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Hey biz, had a little predicament with my fiancé today.

She took my card to get some “essentials” at Target today. This was the 3rd and most expensive Target trip this month coming in at almost $200, $500 for the whole month. 25% of which was spent on food and necessities, the rest was clothes, home decor, sunglasses, $10 candles, etc...

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t keep her on a tight leash but as of late I’ve asked her to tone down the uneccessary spending.

So today, I asked to what she bought that was $188. She immediately got mad and started defending her purchases “what?! I just bought milk, apples, snow floaties for our son and headphones for his ipad and dish soap and snacks for the week!”—-“omg I can’t believe you’re fighting me about this!”

I asked “is there anything else, non-essentials, cosmetics, clothes, ANYTHING else and she said NO and proceeded to create an argument about a of a simple question I asked (ie: what did you buy today, show me the receipt”). I had a feeling she was going to lie through her teeth as Usual (I never call her out on it) so I called Target an had them print up a copy of the receipt since she used my card. Low and behold, she spent $100 on new clothes, bathing suit, throw rug (we have a closet full of them), and some other non essentials, for herself. I have her 3 very nice outs to let her tell the truth before I whipped out the receipt but instead she scolded me for questioning her and said she’ll take back what she got for our son (she only spend $46 on him and $100 on herself). This poised me of so much I had to walk away.

My question biz, do I let her lie to my face like this or do I call the whole relationship off.

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My question biz, do I let her lie to my face like this or do I call the whole relationship off. I feel like there is no middle ground because the way she looked in my eyes, she was trying so hard to not give any tells and it was pretty convincing had I not seen the receipt for myself. Even though this was trivial I don’t think I can trust her and if you can’t trust your partner you cannot love them properly. I think I’m done, is this the right move or am I being crazy?

>>9838135
dat pussy poppin?

>>9838135
You're missing some of the more important details. How long have you been together and how long engaged?

>>9838121
LARP

haven't u read the "how much do u make threads"

everyone makes 6 figures out of college.

Not /biz/, I didn't read your gay blog post you emasculated retard.

Shit pasta
Also, obviously dump her. The cunt literally had no issues with lying to your face and after you call her out she acts like its no big deal. What more is there to discuss. How can you trust her anymore after this.

>>9838145

Pussy is good but not worth the emotional drama and being lied to 24/7 about anything and everything.
At times I feel like I have 13 year old daughter in puberty she is so emotionally unstable and dishonest.

>>9838121
>>9838135

Lol, you're a fucking retard for fighting with your wife about 50$ purchases. She's a fucking idiot for lying about something that is easily checked. You both sound like high schoolers. You are an idiot about entertaining the thought of breaking up your family about 50$.
Literally LMAO'ing at your life. You already know the truth, don't need verbal confirmation from your mongoloid wife before enforcing penalties like right allowance.

>>9838152

5 years together 3 engaged, I’ve know her to be a compulsive liar from early on so after today something clicked and I don’t trust her on some other things in the past.

>>9838181

You’re missing the point, I never fought, I simply asked a question, she fought, I laughed and walked away. And it’s $500/month at Target what I’m upset about 2017 she spent $6900 at Target alone... somit fucking adds up retard.

>>9838171
if she isn't cheating i'd just let it go.

>engaged
>lies to your face uses ur credit card to buy clothes without asking first
>son out of wedlock
>”I’ll take back the things I bought for our son” literally manipulating you

Lmao you already lost, how long have you been living together?
Kiss your house goodbye and Hola alimony and child support.

>>9838135
Trust issues can be fixed with spouse counseling. Daddy issues from when your son turns gay from parental instability can’t be fixed.

>>9838202

How do I trust her that her friend from high school she always talks to but I haven’t met is just her friend from
High school? No reason to believe other wise but now I’m starting to question a lot of things...

>>9838209

I wouldn’t owe alimony, at all.

And what I would pay if she filed for child support is literally 1/3rd of what she gets from me right now just supporting her.

>>9838215
This is my main concern desu, she can be pretty crazy to where I have to leave with my boy and stay at my parents house.

If you can't trust her with money, you can't trust her at all. Good thing you aren't married, but too bad you fucked a baby into a compulsive liar. Your best bet is to move everything into monero and give her the choice, either the monero wallet gets lost in a boating accident, or she does.

>>9838184
You knew about this from early on, but you still got engaged and had a kid? Judging from the situation, it sounds like you need to give her a reality check if she's misusing money.

You can't break things off right away, though, especially with a child involved. But life is too short to be with someone who literally lies to your face. If she doesn't make you happy outside of sex, she's probably not worth it for you.

>>9838121
Has your wife had previous sexual partners besides you?

>>9838184
>ive known her to be a compulsive liar
>got engaged, had a kid with her
Just send her your linkies now, whats her address

>>9838249

Look she can get blacked raw and lie about it, I’ll still make sure she has a place to live a food for the kid when he is with her. But I’ll take that as a metaphor to break things off. Good call that’s where my gut is.

>>9838201
Stop giving her your card you fucking moron

I'm so thankful for my wife who stays home and asks permission for anything. Even a $20 purchase on Amazon she'll ask me if its okay. I could not live with a lying woman like that I'd rather be single. I certainly wouldn't leave her right away. I'd break her like a wild horse and retrain her to respect her husband. I'm not sure if that's possible though for normie White women though. Sorry OP

>>9838253

Thank you for the best answer so far. She also refuses to work... if that holds any weight in the matter...

>>9838215
>Daddy issues from when your son turns gay
true, your son will be a faggot OP, sorry about that.

>>9838184
>deliberately propose to a compulsive liar
>get lied to
Color me surprised. You're an idiot.

Welp, all I needed to hear biz, I’m gonna call it quits. Thanks for the honestly.

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My ex used to try shit like this with me.
I never let her take my card anywhere after I realized how bad she was with money. If it weren't for me, we would have had no savings.
She also used to do the same defensive shit too, arguing instead of admitting that she was spending frivolously. There were many times that I chewed her out for foolishly wasting her own personal money and being too short to pay bills later.

I ended up dumping her, and so should you. She is taking advantage of you, and she is deceitful. It's obvious that she doesn't respect you, she uses your money freely and selfishly, and lies come easily to her lips, because she thinks you're too stupid to know any better.

Get rid of her. This is the type of girl who will divorce you later and take half your shit after she cheats on you and lies about it.
Ignore my words at your own peril.

>>9838327

Thank you, needed to hear that. I’m over it.

>>9838121
>fiancé
>for our son
gay retard thread instant sage

>>9838275

This lol. You're a fucking doormat.

>>9838269
>Look she can get blacked raw and lie about it, I’ll still make sure she has a place to live a food for the kid when he is with her.
cuck

Your first mistake was not budgeting and not treating her like a child when you knew she is a retard with money.
Give her an allowance of 200 bucks a month for her own shit and see what happens.
However she sounds like a trash human being, I hope you are here for the kids because he will end up damaged otherwise.

>>9838367

Nope, had a child with the wrong person and did my best to create a loving household for him and her. She doesn’t want to be a team player, I’m out.

>>9838393
You had a child with a trash human being which means your child will likely be trash too.

>>9838121
I think it's a disease with women. My girlfriend does the exact same shit. She constantly wants to buy useless shit that just ends up as clutter in the house. She has clothes in the closet with the tags still on and is constantly buying new clothes.

She does have her own job though and spends her own money. If I was giving her money like you are I'd dump her right away.

>>9838209
>>9838327

these guys are extremely right.
At this point you are probably seen as just a provider. She doesn't respect you or fears you. You could try putting your foot down and see if it works. I doubt it will cause you said this is not the first time it happened. Think very carefully about this, but consider dumping this bitch. You are not seen as a man by her (this is probably your fault too, but it doesn't matter now).

>>9838402

You know from experience obviously. Sorry your home life is shit. But thanks for your input, I respect all people, retards, brainlets and basement dwellers.

it doesn't have to be "over" that's fucked up to do.


but you do have to punish her and you have to let her know you're not going to be walked on. you let her take advantage of you. even the fact that you had to call up the place instead of demanding the receipt from her shows that you are not dominant enough. she is not intimidated by you. she should be, and then your life will be cozy.

im not saying you have to hit her, but clearly she doesnt feel you are POWERFUL. show her you are powerful.

the simplest thing like smacking a table as you enter a room can subsconsciously give her feelings of submission and weakness. basically you don't abandon her, because it's not her fault. it's yours. your fault for not being dominant enough. but don't cry about it. grow. become the alpha of your family.

>>9838418
Those women are empty shells, they have no hobbies nor passion and the only way to make them feel alive is buying things.

>>9838423

I agree. Tbh I have a pretty big cock and she is the only woman I’ve fucked that can willingly take the whole thing in her ass and enjoy it. I honestly think that’s whats been keeping me sane and I will miss that part about her. But yeah I just can’t get over the lying and disrespect and I don’t think it’s my fault because she comes from a broken home herself so I think she is just wired to do the wrong things.

>>9838426
>Sorry your home life is shit
I'm not the one crying about being a fucking beta with their inability to say no to a childish girlfriend. And blogging about it on an anime imageboard to boot.

Glass houses, stones, etc

>>9838121
>>9838135

You're ruining your marriage over a few hundred dollars? Just love her extra hard for a little while while she runs out of things to upgrade a bit and she'll fall asleep right back into your arms where you'll realize you love her the most.

>>9838440

Honestly she was abused growing up and the only time she respects me is when she wants my cock. Again I’ll miss that part but whatevs.

>>9838440
This guy is a confirmed beta faggot. Dump her OP. How would you feel if one of your guy friends did this to you? Don't be lenient because she has a vagina. She has no respect for you or else she wouldn't be doing this. Or at most she would do it one time, see that it upset you, and then never do it again.

You could get mad at her and she will be good for a few weeks and revert back to her old ways. People do not change.

>>9838459
there's a chance she'll come back for the dick and respect you if you take it away from her, you just need to let her now she's the submissive one, not you

>>9838463

You keep coming back? What does that say about you? what can I tell you to satisfy your need for attention in this thread?

>>9838481
I'm beta because I realize she has no respect for him and want him to be dominant?

I'm beta because I don't want OP to abandon his woman because he failed at improving her, which will only fuck up his child?

You're the beta that runs away from a challenge and is scared of the thought of having to smack a woman around to make her behave.

>>9838490
You are a complete loser and you had a child with a loser. It's more than likely your child will be a loser too. Have fun.

>>9838135
look around at any of those infidelity forums. you'll see that almost every cheater is also a compulsive liar. get out if you can

you know this is a bear market when you fighting over a few hundred dollars

There's no perfect girl out there. Women are malleable. If your woman sucks it's because you suck.

Any woman can be remade, made better or worse.

>>9838145
>>9838121
>fiancee
>son
>want to break it off and fuck up your family over this trivial bullshit that can easily be cured by showing some dominance
kill yourself you fucking degenerate, you deserve everything bad you get and more. now marry her and take your oath seriously and reconcile yourself with God. pray for his mercy because if it was up to me you wouldn't get any.

>>9838327
THIS RIGHT HERE

>3DPD
OHNONONONO

>>9838502
>>9838481

Honestly it’s childish to assume there is no in between of beta/alpha, the lines can be blurred a bit. I admit though I should have been strict, but again I just like to chill. I work from home, make decent $. Provided for her so she didn’t have to work which I realize was my biggest mistake and she grew accustomed to it and started to take advantage. Her maturity level isn’t where it needs to be. I also don’t mind being single again... in fact kind of looking forward to it.

>>9838534
If you two are around eachother all the time, that can stagnate a relationship. It's better if you can leave the house more often and be out and about. It will make her lust for you more and you will be more confident because you see other women all day.

>>9838526

Nah I think I need a women with drive and motivation to accomplish goals on her own. I’d rather have a partner than extra baggage o have to look after which is what this has become. I should also mention she browses biz... I’m a little concerned because I though you can delete posts but this one won’t delete... Oh well, fuck you Cassie! You lying bitch! Biz has spoken.

>>9838552
have fun letting some other faggot in your sons life because you abandoned his mom

>>9838541

So I work from home but I travel up to 10 days a month sometimes more or less. She gets plenty of free time to socialize with friends, my family baby sits whenever we need help. She also has the option to fly with me whenever she wants.

>>9838556
Is that what happened to you?

>>9838121
>tldr white women problems
When you gonna go negress op?

>>9838121
Get a DNA test asap

>>9838121
>>9838135
Don't have to break the relationship off, just get seperate accounts and gete a financial agreement, on an amount each month for food and or house

>>9838643

lol that doesn’t matter at this point, I’m his father regardless and love the shit out of the kid.

>>9838682
So compulsive lying is OK? I tried to be clear it’s not about the money, I’ve got 100k in crypto alone, really not about the money. It’s about trust & respect. If women need a heavy hand to act civilized I don’t mind being single the rest of my life.

>>9838636

I actually work with a half black/half white 25 years, same career as me, the thought has crossed my mind and that trip together in Europe, we did have a number of drinks together after long days of meetings.

>>9838691
Nah, but you knew from the beginning and still went for it, so i tought you might be able to handle it. I'd leave her in the early stages if i catch her on a lie too fast. The love feeling fades after a while, so it's important her personality is great if you want to spend the rest of your life with her.

>>9838135
yea hi, dont put so much money on the card? you could also give her a certain amount of cash every week

>>9838711

I agree, thank you

>>9838121
Women should stay in the kitchen.

>>9838713

See I don’t want to have to baby sit an adult you know? Having a toddler is enough, I’d rather not have to put the effort into being a father figure for an adult woman who can A) be honest B) apologize sincerely if caught lying C) manage her compulsive spending

>>9838556
you need to abandon the son, too, you pussy.
look at the son as being weak of genes because you made a mistake anc chuckle at the new dude taking care of him
dont let your pussyboy feelings get in the way of being alone and rich, man.

>>9838121
You have a child together. Don't you think it's more about your child than you by now?

Treat her like a liar from now on. Don't trust her with anything.

>>9838803
the family unit is the basis of every civilization, and once the family is not made up of two partners, equal or not, but on one team, pulling into one direction, and the children, it fails. every time she spends a dollar she should be thinking about putting it into her sons college fund. not her own beauty.

Break up is an ok option, but not your only one. You can also take a hard stance and call her out on any and all lies + overspending. This puts the ball in her court.

>>9838846
>A lying, untrusting woman
>A flaky, self-centered man
You will gravitate towards this kind of woman whatever you do.

Just for the thought that you'd abandon your child because of grocery money is a horrid. you're not better than your fiance.

>>9838327
spot on

>>9838871
its terrible
people need a licence to operate a car but dont need one to have a child and it makes me sick do think that every fuckup weirdo can just produce one if he finds a willing person of the other sex
unironically, think of the children

>>9838288
I'm getting frustrated just reading this.

Talk to a lawyer about strategically dumping her. She'll try to steal the kid. Don't permit lies from you or her man, that's basic common sense.

>>9838135
>>9838121
Since you've already had a kid with this woman, it's in his best interests that you try to work it out, and that you would even contemplate divorcing her over something so trivial indicates that you're not responsible enough to have a child. The solution as I see it is pretty simple. Don't let her use your credit card/bank account. Give her a monthly allowance or do all the essential shopping on your own.

Why not just sit down one evening and get it all out in the open with her OP? Tell her you have a problem with her spending money behind your back and you want her to cut down and stop lying about it. Don't try and turn it into a fight, but make sure you get her to be open about what she's doing.

If she flips out on you then your decision is made.

>>9838202
Cuck

OP, let this roastie go asap, what are you waiting for?

You know all this could've been avoided if you just established some ground rules at the start of the relationship.

Sure, my gf will buy a few pieces of clothing on my card from time to time, but only with my permission ("hey anon I'm going to the store to pick up some stuff we need in the house, is it ok if I get a nice top or something as well?"). If she's using her own card it's her own business of course. We treat each other with respect and our relationship is amazing, and it's largely down to the fact that I very clearly expressed what is ok behaviour and what is not at the start of our relationship. If she does something that I feel was wrong or at least highly questionable, I express my thoughts around it and let her know CLEARLY and IMMEDIATELY where I draw the line, and then it's up to her to decide whether or not that's acceptable to her (if it's not, bye-bye). I've lost girlfriends in the past due to this and I'm glad I did, because it filters out the golddiggers and the entitles bitches. What you're left with is a girl that actually respects you and loves you as much as you respect and love her back. This kind of relationship really increases the quality of your life, as opposed to a toxic relationship like OP's where it's just a massive drain on your energy and happiness.

Communication is key, and if you brush away things that actually bother you, you only have yourself to thank for it when it comes back to bite you in the ass.

>>9839555
this. you fags let them walk over to please them, but they dont respect you and it will comeback to bite you. Just b alpha.

Also, trust is key. I would rather be alone than with someone i don't trust. This relation is a waste of time. Look for someone you trust and someone you have fun with, thats all.... In this case you got a kid so you might have to give it a shot. But It's better to have your parents split up than arguing for the kids sake... goodluck bro

>>9838502
Wow you seriously must be a kissless virgin. >Talks about being dominant
>Talks about not abandoning his woman even though she's using him
>Talks about smacking a woman around?
Wtf what terrible relationship advice.
>"smacking a table as you enter a room can subsconsciously give her feelings of submission and weakness"
Are you fucking kidding me right now?

>tfw gf and I both work and she doesn't "ask me for money"

I still pamper her every so often but so does she. I don't get this.

>>9838502
I'll agree there's clearly a problem, but your solution is not the right one. You should never hit a woman. Not saying it's wrong to want to do it in some situations, or that there's never a reason for doing it, but as a man you should be able to control your anger and not flip out like some immature teenager because, as a woman, being hit by a man is like a man being hit by a gorilla. We're so much stronger, especially in the upper body, and a solid punch from an adult man is no fucking joke.

You think you're alpha, but all I see is an immature and insecure little boy desperately trying to cling onto power using cheap shots and "shortcuts" because he thinks she won't respect him if he doesn't, and why would she? You clearly don't think you're deserving of respect yourself if you have to take it to that level.