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>>9811930
ETH
0xBTC
BTC (optional)

*In that order

>>9811939

Go fuck your mother pajeet

>>9811930
Get your 21 now then.
Bitcoin 2.0 is around the corner.

>>9811930
I felt like this 2 years ago, then watched coins I had bought and sold explode. Look into BAT, if it makes it onto coinbase like many believe it will, the speculation alone make it pop.

a new hodler was born

>>9811952
0xbtc fags Don't trust them

>>9811954
>needs own browser
>is not just a chrome plugin
that coins needs to die

>>9811958
As someone who holds this coin and believe in its future I would like to know why.

>>9811968
tell me what it does

>>9811966
>a great browser that has a concurrency wallet built in

>>9811966
You realize chrome barely even allows ublock to work, right? Like it can't even block youtube commercials and shit.

...Oh wait, have you been browsing with chrome and ads this whole time?

>>9811984
It solves major problems that bitcoin currently faces and will face in the next 100 years.

I'll start simply with transaction.
First transactions of bitcoin are costly as it is needed to pay the miners unless it is centralized with the lightening network and segwit, and it should be understood that banks have control over the lightening network something that bitcoin has been opposed to from the start. Transactions of bitcoins also take a lot of time with an overfilled memepool Bitcoin cash thought that by increasing the block size would fix this problem but they still have another problem to face with time. Both Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash have to face the on comming energy problem within the next 100 years they both will require stronger and stronger computers that will require more and more energy.
Bitcoin can also not survive without its miners after all the bitcoins have been mined it will still need all the hashing power in order for bitcoin to make transactions which will become more costly then what you get paid to mine.
Bitcoin is also not as evenly distributed as satoshi owns 10% of all bitcoins created.

0xBTC essentially solves all these problems.
Transactions only cost ETH which you can spend minimum or maximum amount to increase the rate of which your payment goes through. So that is both the Transaction Speed and Transaction Price problem solved. With the development of the Lava Wallet you will soon be able to pay 0xBTC in order to move the 0xBTC if you desire, or you can save every valuable 0xBTC and just pay the ETH.
0xBTC does not need to be mined after all the coins have been mined in order to survive as it lives within the ETH ecosystem. This essentially stops all the PoW problems that Bitcoin will face in the comming years as Miners will only need to mine ETH in order for 0xBTC to survive.
0xBTC is also the most fairly distributed coin in recorded history.

Bitcoin 2.0 Right at our doorstep.

>>9811930
the true redpill is only caring about bitcoin

the rest are for trading to make more bitcoin

I believe in TOMO

>>9811930
Just saying Anon. Bitcoin 2.0

Every crypto is a scam none of them will make money.

>>9812132

ok fren im still up 300%

>>9812060
bitcoin cash is better

>>9812017
it can block youtube commercials

>>9812183
Really after all that I explained?
you better step up and give me some counter arguments because at this point you are just shiller.

>>9812192

>>9812183
Bcash is old Tech at this point the next Era has arived.

>>9812193
all you said is 0xbtc will save more energy then the the thing its copying "btc cash" because of issues it may face in THE COMING 100 YEARS. Do you really think it will still be around. How many currency coins do we need?

>>9812216
0xBTC solves the Energy crisis both BTC and BCH will have. Eventually the cost to keep the network will not be profitable for the miners. The problem with both of these coins is that they need infinitely scaling computers to solve the hashes or will need more computers that. That will require more power to keep more computers alive.

0xBTC is simply distributed and then lives on the miners of ETH which can be mined infinitely and not waste energy on holding a single ledger to one currency like BCH and BTC.

>>9812234
what will you do with 0xbtc? its just a token to be exchanged for the sake of exchanging. You expect this token to replace Thee bitcoin. Why wouldn't I just use Ether instead of a token within ether? better yet why wouldn't I use BtcCash so I don't have to cash out into a security.

>>9812283
This will replace bitcoin and Bcash as sadly both will not be able to sustain themselves with time.

0xBTC will replace Bitcoin as it is Bitcoin but without all the problems of bitcoin essentially. The Value is in the problems it solves in our physical world.

0xBTC will become the medium of trade with time because of this. Fee's are low, transactions are fast, it's the most evenly distributed coin in human history and energy cost will diminish to 0 so it makes it more economically friendly so that we can spend our energy on other resources or other PoW tokens that have promising projects in the future.

0xBTC is traded in BTC as well and one day will be traded in USD as more exchanges come to adopt it.

Eventually 0xBTC will have its own decentralized exchange probably after the release of the lava wallet.

Also if you're still in crypto to "cash out" you simply play into the ponzi that is the US dollar.

>>9812319
a ponzi within a pozi within another ponzi

>>9812340
Good to know you have nothing left to argue with as you have diluted to calling the thing have been trying to shill a ponzi.

A+ though you're really trying. I hope that who ever pays you pays you well.

Holy shit i was talking about how all alts are scams and now this same fag is pajeet up this thread with the biggest scamcoin of all

>>9812319
bitcoin will not lose to a token

>>9812356
No but eventually it won't be able to power itself and guess what will be left.

>>9812345
0xbtc is FUCKING GARBAGE, You might well just be saying " aaaaabaaa ether it better den bitcoin"

>>9812365
Anger good we are moving forward. Next is sadness, then bargaining, Then you will accept it as it is the truth Bitcoin will one day won't be able to survive because it will have no power to support its ledger.

>>9811930
> he didn't buy 0xBTC to 30x

>>9812345
Lmao that projection
>I hope that who ever pays you pays you well
Shoo shoo smelly pajeet

>>9812397
I don't get payed. I'm just here to educate the individuals that the new paradigm has arrived.
your argument is merely YOUR projection on ME.

with all the FUD and security bullshit you're better off just holding BTC/ETH/LTC etc until anything changes or BTC reaches new ATH.

>>9811930
90% of alts are shitty, there are some gems though that actually might be useful longterm.
Also Bitcoin core has some problems with its speed and transaction costs that doesn't make it a useful currency anymore.
Ethereum has the problem that itmight become a security in the US, which will create a huge dip if that happens.
So you should also not rely to much on those, DYOR

>>9812376
so bitcoin can't sustain itself, ether comes out sustainable and superior. Why is your little token still around?

>>9812438
oh yeah it isn't, because it doesn't do anything

>>9812438
Because it is a store of Value just as Bitcoin is now.

Using ETH as a store of value does not return the gains that BTC provides as it's market constantly rising with more ETH being created. ETH does return gains but its like investing In gasoline of course it will go up in value but it will not keep growing like BTC does.

0xBTC follows closely to the BTC model in the market perspective. It will always be traded because the price of 0xBTC will always rise and fall. Even after all the coins have been mine all sells and all buys will change the value within the market.

As we see now BTC is currently 7,000$ this is because of it's mining system and basic economic market trading.

0xBTC will be used as the store of value because it fits the required ratio and is the only currency currently within the 0x space.

>>9812403
Ok, rayneesh, you got me. I get paid 10$ per post to discredit this literally who of a coin. Oh well I hope you get a promotion and a salary increase for exposing me as a paid shill and successful propagation of your shitcoin.

All in eos

>>9812460
Again I'm only here to teach the new paradigm to those who wish to learn or those who need to learn.
You are still projecting on ME and I have no interest in that.

how much do they pay to shill that 0xbtc?

>>9812470
>ur mom gey
>no u

buy signal

xrp and bch gonna pump hard next season coz everybody hates them

>>9812457
>store of value within store of value
really that's it? HAHAHAHAHA

>>9812494
Dude have you even look at BCH or BTC????
like for real....
this is poor.

>>9812482
unironically they pay him in 0xbtc

>>9812512
I'll see you from the moon dude i'm flattered you think that some pays me it must mean that I have some sort of skill to display an actual argument though so I guess there is something good in this.

>>9812512
So nothing? He is an actual slave?

I would trade alts if you could set a stop loss and limit order at the same time on Bittrex.

It's fucking infuriating

>>9812529
skilled shiller

>>9812575
I'm done with you.
If you don't get it at this point its ultimately your loss.
I hope that you come to accept your loss when the time comes. I believe in you.

>>9812319
CAN YOU 0XBTC PAJEETS JUST FUCK OFF ALREADY

>>9812592
CAN YOU JUST REALIZE WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING ALREADY.

>>9812529
your argument was this
>bitcoin unsustainable
>ethereum sustainable
>ethereum token new bitcoin
you have been just repeating this, btw have you heard of 0xbtc69? its a new token just like 0xbtc and it can be used as a storage of value.

>>9812619
No i'm done with you go away.
you have no counter argument.

>>9812319
Hmmm false claims... stated as facts?
Sure reminds me of some other failed bag holders

>>9812619
You have failed to explain why Bitcoin or Bcash is better choice besides "its already a meme"
instead you try to bash me because it's easier than proving why your coin is better.

Kek
Me of never believe in alts
Only ever chased p&ds

Me not even risk holding alts thibk will do well
Just leveraged long ETH & XRP

>>9812643
None of these are false claims.

>>9812658
>none
>false
>claims
Yes anon.... indeed you are telling the truth.

>>9812647
token with no utility
not gonna make it

>>9812708
Still waiting for you to explain to me why BTC or BCH is the better coin.

>>9812708
Hmm that's right you don't have an argument.

>>9812647
bitcoin is thee global digital store of value, its not going anywhere. Your faggot cloneable token is trying to be bitcoin and we don't need another store of value. Like I said have you heard about 0xbtc69 its also a store of value and does the same thing. I really believe in 0xbtc69. You should buy it HAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>9812755
>>9812494
Your argument against yourself

>>9812755
So you gave me "it's already a meme"......
Wow you don't even try.

>>9812768
in what way, 0xbtc69 doesn't exist its a joke just like your coin.

>>9812817
You literately put money (a store of value) within bitcoin (a store of value)
and all you have is "Bitcoin was a meme before this so it must be this way forever"

>>9812830
Thats like having a horse and buggy and saying that Cars will never take over.

>>9812817
Bitcoin 2.0 is here and it's here to stay.

>>9812817
Now explain to me WHY BTC OR BCH IS BETTER.

>>9812830
A store of value within a store of value within another store of value

>>9812060
>still need all the hashing power in order for bitcoin to make transactions which will become more costly then what you get paid to mine
>more costly then what you get paid to mine
>>9812193
what are the expected energy costs, and what is your expected value of bitcoin?
also, "fair distribution" is irrelevant. there is fair access. anyone can obtain virtually any amount desired--simply pay the market price for them.

true. the only altcoins i see a big future to are zilliqa and cardano, the rest are kinda meh

>>9812897
Ultimately yes.
we see this in our universe All sorts of values with values.
electrons into atoms, atoms into particles, particles into molecules, Molecules into compounds, compounds into Etc.. It's all just values in values.

>>9811930
Theoretically, there is no need for the coins have value outside of the transaction. So if you have some sort of smart contract system, nobody external needs to own those coins.
80%-90% of those coins out there have no instrinct value then making the coiner rich.
There are maybe five usescases in the brick and mortar world for blockchain, and those with the money, the customers can buy themselves servers and invest. They don't need external help at all, besides buying a couple of hackers.
Enjoy the ride, don't think about markets and shit. The height from last december was a lots of criminal/hidden money needed an outlet, but the govs closed lots of loopholes and now its hard business.

>>9812911
Eventually the only way for miners to be payed will be in transactions but the difficulty will still scale. This will require more miners which will cost more electricity. Eventually we reach a point of critical mass where the difficulty is so high it is no longer profitable to use the energy to mine.
It's sad to think of this day and I hope I don't have too see it but eventually it will arrive.

>>9812956
tokens without utility WILL NOT LAST. Your just buying bitcoin with bitcoin

>>9813027
Your buying Bitcoin 2.0 which Bitcoin funding will transfer too after all the implications of what this "utility token" can do is realized or when Bitcoin is no longer because its ledger can not sustain itself.
either scenario 1 will happen or Given enough time scenario 2 will happen

The day will come.

>>9813053
>bitcoin 2.0
idiot

>>9813203
You this thread.

Exchange coins (BNB, BIX) are the only "safe" alts and also the best performing.

All other alts are for quick flips to either gain or lose eth/btc. That's it.

Get into BIX if you haven't already.

>>9813216
>comparing Ether to a token thats built on Ether
your token has no use. go buy turtle coin or nigger coin. They do the same thing

>>9813281
Did you gain sudden amnesia?
Like all of the previous conversation explaining why it's valuable.
At this point you're running on fumes.

>>9813291
>store of value
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>9813304
It's over you lost at this point your just bumping a thread.

>>9813311
>STORE OF VALUE

Crypto is so easy.

All you need are

BTC
ETH
XMR