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AMD at 20$ by EOY lads

TESLA

Their self-driving technology is more important than all these others metrics. I don't care if they make 5,000 or 10,000 cars a week. They promised an autonomous drive car doing a cross country trip in 2017. The entire stock is going to live or die on whether their self-driving fleet tech works or not. How long to hit production numbers on tesla 3 isn't that important.

>>9773993
$20-$40, I think $20 is a given now.

buy megacaps with growing dividends

MmmmmmmmmmmmDRUS!

It's time for the Lunchtime Checkup!

What're you eating how're you doing?

I'm having a BLT on fresh fire toasted schiacciata bread and some kettle chips and I'm a little down today. I bought a couple shares in ROAD instead of SBUX yesterday but I still got a ton of free capital so I'm looking for ideas. Too late for me to do a put on TLT I think.

>>9774032
Look At Crown Crafts. A craft supplier with a massive dividend. Beautiful.

>>9774050
my potato has autism

>>9774050
Chocolate milk and beef jerky again. Bought IPAS this morning and up 1% already. Thinking of buying more. Trying to get a position in PED for a small swing.

Oh boy, I hope I get my 3rd scoop today.

>>9774093
Oh.

>>9774078
https://youtu.be/YQEJyjKTH9g

EAT

>>9774108
You're gonna make it.

>>9774050
based lunch bro

Where do you guys get such large sums of money to invest? Or is it just from your day jobs

>>9774051
>dividend doesnt grow
>No household names (not that I would know about babies)
No deal

>>9774112
Sold my 6/15 puts on TLT, locking in the majority of my 3.5% gain for today

>>9774119
>Where do you guys get such large sums of money to invest?
by working and investing over the years..

>>9774119
get a job and save capital. takes money to make money if you fall for the high risk with little capital meme you'll 99% end up broke like every other degenerate gambler in history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxJk4RwmS5c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-aNLtZC_RE

A M D

>>9774050
Japanese noodles
Me pull string
Only lead failure

>>9774050
I'm having a delicious granola bar with a side of Adderall

>>9774119
Day job.
Had about 5k to 10k to start with from life savings.

TSLA still going up! I've upped my daily stop-loss five times already. Where's the resistance on this thing?

>>9774050
I'm having a delicious granola bar with a side of Adderall
>>9774119
Day job.
Had about 5k to 10k to start with from life savings.

>>9774195
Hey now, chin up! It makes the process go faster :^) seriously though, only losers quit. Finish your lunch and get back on that horse!

>>9774231
>zoo york
its not 2005 anymore

>>9774231
Fuck, I love their peanut butter crunch/toffee buzz and white chocolate macadamia. I had to give them up though, I get different bars for quick snacks online now, little cheaper too.

>>9774209
It's going higher. Just look at what people valued it a year ago with no fucking car production. People will completely forget the tesla 3 problems the moment they hit numbers at the end of the month.

350 soon.

>>9774244
The watch is horrifically worn.
I got it for 30 bucks and it mainly just serves for convenience now.
>implying I'd waste significant amounts of my vigorous, disgusting gains on such frivolities as male jewelry

>>9774108
Ayyyyyyy
Congrats!

>>9774231
I used to wear watches but quit a couple years ago. Wenger was my favorite. Indestructible.

>>9774050
Today's fare looks so fucking good !!!

I will be very sad and sorry if ROAD turns out to be a shitty stock
But I am still confident in my thesis

>>9774324
Don't worry about it, the decision to buy was mine in the end so I'm not going to complain if it tanks. Personal responsibility yo!

>>9774318
Thanks, senpai <3
I only wish to spread the wealth here when I get a decent ML model working

>>9774323
Why did you quit?

>>9774266
I haven't tried those ones yet.
I mostly stick to these mint ones and the chocolate chip, but I have 5 or 6 different flavors in my apartment.
What brand did you switch to?
And why did you have to give them up?

>>9774231
Is your success an outlier or if you're dedicated and make rational investments, can others replicate the results?

I'm just worried about survivorship bias

I'm 20, have about 3k in life savings, and want to put some of it to work for me instead of laying in a savings account. I also want to begin investing while I'm still young so I can reap the benefits later.
I don't want or expect to get rich quick but I at least want to be decently off by my late twenties

Bank of America will Pump to 30 end of day

>>9774119
Day job ofc

>>9774013
Tesla is so late on self-driving even GM can beat them.

>>9774427
THREE FUND PORTFOLIO
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Three-fund_portfolio

>>9774420
About three years ago I spent 7 months unemployed so I never even got dressed in the morning and just got out of the habit. Use my phone now. I need to start doing it though when I go outdoors but right now I have no idea where they ended up after the flood. Probably in an unopened box somewhere.

>>9774420
Too many carbs and sugar with not enough protein. I switched to muscle pharm cinimon twist. They're still not the best but it's better for my goals. Still looking for better ones.

>>9774013
>Their self-driving technology is more important
Too bad it's not theirs

Sector green as ninja turtle ooze.

Senate legalization vote tomorrow.

T O M O R R O W
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>>9774508
This.

Also let's remind everyone that Tesla didn't manage to make money on electric cars so far, when europeans and asians were able. It's a company based on hype, they are very weak on the technical side.

>>9774032
this desu

>>9774050
I'm eating some leftover chicken and sausage gumbo that I made a couple of days ago.

Overall I'm up today thanks to JD still kicking ass, I bought a lot more NTDOY shares earlier today, hoping for a decent return from that over the next couple of weeks. PCG and EIX are down a bit from where I bought in but I'm thinking they've found a bottom and will have a rally soon.

Overall I'm feeling pretty good about everything today.

>>9774013
Why don't they just install some shit to let them remote control a car and say its self-driving for the cross country road trip and just tell people that it's still going to be a while before they can implement it in the cars they're selling to the public while they develop the real thing?

>>9774614
ask me how I know you're a crypto investor

Any aussies here used Stake.com? Claims to be 0 fee us trading

>>9774604
You fuckers eating gumbo in the middle of summer disgust me.

I love you though.

>>9774621
You want to know how I know you're gay?

>>9774628
I had some chicken leg quarters and some good sausage from a local butcher both thawed out in my fridge that I needed to use up. It's hot and humid as balls here in East TX right now and I'm gonna go back to working outside after lunch but IDGAF.

>>9774050
Went sideways the whole day, I'm a bit up tho. I get dividends on Valeo tonight.
Went home, bought a baguette, don't know what I'm cooking for diner now.

I've got $140 extra to gamble away today. What should I look at?

>>9774639
shoot

>>9774662
2 shares of EIX

>>9774652
Are you the Texasbro from up east of Dallas?

>>9774683
Yeah, about 1.5-2 hours East of Dallas, 1 hour West of Texarkana on I-30

>>9774688
How’s the bass fishing on the lakes? I want to make a fishing trip north this summer.

>>9774721
I usually go for catfish or crappie. In my general area the Bass are decent on Bob Sandlin and Cypress Springs, can be hit or miss on Monticello, Welsh is having some serious issues with their prey species population and their bass population is suffering because of it, hard to pull a decent fish out of Welsh.

>>9774721
If you really want some amazing bass fishing I'd suggest hitting up Lake Fork, it's the best bass lake in the entire state and one of the best in the country.

Should I go all into TQQQ

>+1% today

aaaa-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

We're all gonna make it.

>>9774745
>>9774761
Thanks. I’ll check it out. Tbh I think I just want a different location for once. Kind of tired of my salt water. All the fresh water is shit around here unless you have 100k in a boat to run the river.
We used to have access to the canals but boomers kept dumping thier trash in them so that’s all closed now.

>>9774488
all of these funds require I have roughly 3 grand just to open an account, let alone 3+ different accounts for 3+ funds

All you HMNY cucks still have a chance to switch to superior meme. ALT is still breaking out of it's flag.

>>9774877
SPY lad

>>9774871
Lake Fork would be your best bet, there's a TON of fishing guides that work Fork if you want to pay for a guide and there's also a lot of marinas that rent boats out if you'd rather do it yourself.

Is $SQ a good buy?

Sorry for being a newfag.

>>9774558
Lot of accumulation happening with FFT at the 50 cent mark. This one is a Canadian company with mostly US assets. Probably the riskiest holding in my portfolio but it's looking like it is coiling up for a moonshot in near future. Chart refuses to give up support at 49/50.

>>9774621
*audible chuckle*

>>9774093
so you would have made 1k if you'd have invested 30k into shit without any dividend
wow

>>9774991
Check out DRYS instead also always do the opposite of tripfags

>>9774894

>>9774894

>BAC 30
CHA CHING

>>9775086

Didnt that dip massively?

>not going all in on Rite-Aid and BlackBerry
LMAOING @ YOUR LIVES D E S U

I can't find XIV on Robinhood

>>9775193
It depends on how you define "massive".

>>9775193
I'm surprised they're still listed desu

>>9774241
Cute kek

>>9775236

Yeah Im not buying that lmao

>>9775255
Congrats, you are now smarter that 50% of /rhg/ posters

so you theoretically have a good chunk of change, but it's all in the stock market so you can't actually use it
how do you actually capitalize off of your investments then if it's all stuck in the stock market? Dividends?
I would assume if you tried to sell off the stocks the government would fuck you sideways with tax

HODL tight, my fellow HMNY bagholders.

>>9775278
Hold stocks for over a year so you only pay the long term capital gains tax rate instead of the short term capital gains rate.

>>9775291
SWITCH TO ALT

>>9775236
George Economou is my personal hero

>>9775278
well you could take a loan out against your equity but really why not sell the stocks

Pump it

What a week lads. JD is only 30% of my portfolio :/

What are some good call options to get into

>>9775400
TLT

Feeling pretty good about CSCO lads. Solid semiconductor growth with a nice little dividend

Is AMD's new products really going to cause a bigger jump or is it done with it's bull run?

KHC is gonna end green today, right?

>>9775524
People are speculating it could go as high as last time it gained a hold in server marketshare ($40). Their products are currently are competetive, and the fact that they are gonna have 7nm ready before Intel is VERY good.

>>9775524
They Radeon hype is fake, the real game changer is their epyc processor line. Expect a minor pullback from the current bull run, but AMD has finally broken the shorters and can run free without manipulation.

>>9775543
consumers werent much to look at today

>>9774508
>it's not theirs

They have an inhouse self-driving project.

is SPY gonna dip or should I FOMO in right now?

>>9774614
google does this

Remote Control error handling for their autonomous systems. It's the best architecture.

>>9775554
Sounds good, I'll hold out for hopefully better gains

>>9775524
AMD is going higher.

GE down to 13.65

Just as I said. It's crumbling down lower fuckfaces. Stop thinking for yourself if I tell you something.

Couple of questions for the community:

1. I've been holding AMD for over a year, was memed into it at like $15.20, watched it go down to about $9 and suddenly it's at an all time high. I'm inclined to sell because its P/E is at almost 400 which is obscene. Thoughts?

2. NTDOY, is it a buy? P/E is excellent when compared to ATVI, EA and TTWO, and this dip looks juicy. Is E3 going to be big for them this year?

>>9773970

Why aren't you shorting the VIX?

its literally free money!!

best vanguard etf Minimum $1,000

>>9775645

1. Keep holding.
2. I'm not on this NTDOY train. Feels like their brands are getting weaker over time.

>MRNS

https://www.schaeffersresearch.com/content/news/2018/06/06/marinus-pharmaceuticals-stock-gets-another-stunning-bull-note

>>9774119
A day job and diligent budgeting will make you money much faster than stocks ever could until you have 20k+ invested (plus available margins). Work hard and save and invest. Truth dart. The wagecuck meme is just that, a meme. Put your head down and make your money.

>>9775671
explain to me how this works, why can't I buy a load of vix at $10, wait for the next inevitable dip/recession and sell at like $30? Seems like easy money to me, so why doesn't everyone do this?

Are any of these stocks '''bad'''? I'm clueless and just been chasing memes. I keep hearing tech is about to drop so I'm scared to go all in but I got an extra $2k waiting to be invested

>>9775671
but anon
i have been

been selling covered calls against SVXY. prolly he safest way to short VIX i can think of. when VIX spikes, you sell ATM calls against your shares, then buy it back once vol turns again. if it goes past yur strike, you just take it and try again.

on one hand its disappointing that they deleveraged it, but n the other hand, its nice that liquidation is no longer possible in one day like last time

>>9775772
people do this with UVXY calls. 99.99% of the time youre wrong, but ive done it a couple times before and won like 500% two of those time, so its not impossible. i would never hold stock thats long VIX though. a small amount of calls at least sets your risk to what you put down. think of it as scratchers, because thats your odds and payouts pretty much

>>9775772
because VIX ETFs decay massively over time.
this makes sense if you understand how the VIX is defined.
if you could make an instrument that tracks the VIX without decaying you'd get rich.

>>9775756
>>9774119
>A day job and diligent budgeting will make you money much faster than stocks ever could
ORRRRRR
you could put 3k in on DRUS and turn it into 3 gorillion dollars

>>9775772

VIX itself is un-tradable

but there are tradeable derivates that mimic VIX

the way they work is trading the difference between short-term and longer-term futures

since long-term futures decay less over time than short-term, their price difference tends to go down

>>9775645
>>9775697
>tfw dumped 100 shares of AMD yesterday at 14.88 when I bought at 13.12
I thought it would cap at 16 but now projections are $40? Hope it experiences a minor dip before blasting off...

>>9775772
Look up leveraged etfs. They split / reverse split constantly because decay

Basically, say you but 1 share at $10. The next day the stocks that it tracks go up 10%. You now have $11. The next day those same stocks drop by 10%. You think you're back to your original buy? No. You lost 10% of the 11$ so you lost more.

Personally I only daytrade and hold them for a couple hours.

>>9775901
don't be a scared cuck

>>9775835
the best was when SVXY was still 2x, and i had margins and could do vertical spreads. shit was perfect

>>9775733
Called this yesterday, ignored as usual while tripfags were busy (you)ing all over themselves.

>>9775901
I did that with Sbux this morning and missed roughly .30 per share profit

>>9775645
1. It's actually 80 i think, keep in mind that AMD has only had two quarters of profitability so far, it went from around 200 to 80. AMD is doing a lot of work in their cash flow and earnings, so the PE ratio isn't that useful. Expect it to drop after the next ER.

>>9775910
even unleveraged VIX ETFs experience exponential decay and the decay is much more than regular leverage slippage.

longing the VIX is basically buying out of the money options every day. 90% of the time those options expire worthless, so you're constantly throwing money into the furnace.

>>9775810
I just looked up the SVXY calls Robinhood has listed and there are so many from before the volpacalypse.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>9775913
I sold because I was the opposite of scared, I was confident (to my detriment) that it was capping at $15. I am a cuck tho, got cucked by those faggots at Intel not doing their jobs and giving AMD a clear shot to $40/share

277!

>tfw missed the SRAX pop today

>>9775989
Intel has been heading to the wall technologically speaking for 10 years. Now they are losing to fabless (AMD) and to fabs (glofo, TSMC). Blame Moore.

>>9775957
yeah thats why i just sell em against the actual stock. the underlying itself (barring any increase in vol) just trends calmly up, so i buy it and forget about it. when i see huge VIX spike, i sell a call with some decent length on it (for max vega), then i set a buyback limit on the call for ridiculously low when the vol turns back around. you definitely wanna check your math before trying that though, because if you miss buying back, and your ATM strike is BELOW your avg cost you will lose money

>>9776012
if you say so

>>9776038
Now compare it to all its competitors (AMD, Samsung, TSMC, Qualcomm)

>>9776021
damn if i had more money id unironically buy more DRUS right now. fuck settled cash rules. hope it stays down for tomorrow

>tfw I'm super unproductive at work because of all the bull runs

Fuck, I need a red day tomorrow before I get fired

hold or sell BAC?

>>9775983
total loss

>>9776088
HOLD

I hope you lads went in on MJ, CGC, and CRON

>>9776074
AMD is up less than 10% in the same time period (Sept 1 2017 - Jun 1 2018)
what's your point

>>9776038
Also, 450mm wafer size manufacturing failed, 10nm transistor size on bulk silicon is failing...

>HMNY

holy shit

>>9775983
desu rkg you shouldve flipped to long after that jobs report, i havent shorted nothing (other than bonds) in like a week. feels weird, but its been green

absolutely Chadding right now

amd is going down.... right guys. The fomo is real

>>9775945
ah okay this makes sense, I hadn't considered that

>>9776118
Can't compare the two. AMD in 2016 was $2.

>>9775983
>using an Android

>>9776124
if that shit gets down to midteens im unironically buying 100k

i have some 50cent strike calls i bought a while back for 2cents in case i miss the moon mission, i can just exercise and pretend i was a HODLer

>he fell for the crash bear meme

>>9776192
leftists are losing so much money by being bias towards bear market

>>9776158
it will dip big at some point. theres people who have been holding that shit for years. i wouldnt even doubt some tutes got trapped on that first big dive

>>9776224
AMD is in a new paradigm. It's going to float till EOY.

Should I buy DRUS now? It's almost back to a penny.

>>9776212
leftists don't have money m8

>>9776212
>leftists
lmao
i just like how quick things go down desu
its not like you have to be bearish on stocks though. you can be bearish on metals, bonds, oil etc. thats all been pretty good to me lately

>>9776230
ha thats dreaming. people have to dump bags at some point. and theyll all do it at the same time like always. imma buy some if it does

>>9776243
saying this as a fellow HODLer who made 100% trade on them already today, i would buy 10k more shares right fucking now if i had the settled cash. look at how much volume has picked up. i highly doubt thats the last pump. especially since those contracts they landed are worth more than their current Mcap

>>9776158
AMD is hitting some big resistance at its 10yr high. Don't buy until that clears up

when do you guys think i should hop off of the weed stock bubble

>>9776074
>compare the two
>>9776162
>no wait, you cant compare the two
is this one of those 'Hitler arguing with a Jew' situations?

wtf did seadrill just do, not complaining i made money but what a wierd spike

>>9776315
looks like theres some profit taking now. im gonna leave a few of these on overnight as i think big guys might buy in. but the vote isnt till tomorrow. im betting this speculative shit will keep going through AH desu

Literal 5% GDP growth and we are not getting ass raped by the rest of the world due to globalist scum politicians

future looks bright

>>9776383
Wait for Emperor Trump's victory in midterm and everyone should allin on the USA

Based IPAS. I wish I would’ve bought more.

NKTR is popping off today after a big panic sell last week.

Shit is going to recover 40% of its losses. JUMP IN NOW WHILE U CAN RETARDS

>>9775578
Yes, but it's practically just a tweak of that technology they bought.

>>9776383
fucking crazy how easy it was too. congress has hardly even been cooperative and still were better than weve been in years in terms of that.

>>9776405
you think we will get another pump like that one? i cant wait to trade election volatility

Where my /Dogs of the Dow/ at? WOOF WOOF

Im too scared to sell my BAC
like gonna pop to 32 any day now

>>9774427
The market goes up on average.
You don't have to /all in/ your life savings.
I'm 23 right now.
Started my account with just 500 to 1000 bucks and started adding more in and taking more risk as the profit margins made me more comfortable with doing so.
I wouldn't say that survivorship bias would be the case since it's standard to put your retirement funds into a stock index. There could be some survivorship bias among those of us that go hard on the options trading, will short stuff, and take lots of risk.

>>9774799
NO.
Wait for a pullback/correction, and just hold QQQ until then. That's what I'm doing.
Shit's overvalued right now, and there's an impending fed rate hike.
This shit is so likely to dump. Not guaranteed, but very likely.

>>9776420
They cancelled completely with that company and went 100% inhouse. What the fuck are you talking about.

>>9776434
I believe Trump is doing what is good for America

If Trump has a majority in Congress with his own dudes, he will pass every legislation he wants and America will be the best place to invest in.

>>9776489
Sounds good comrade, your rubles are in the mail.

>>9776479
This shit again? Havent you learned anything?

>>9776279
>ha thats dreaming. people have to dump bags at some point. and theyll all do it at the same time like always. imma buy some if it does

shit logic

It's not going to go down rest of this year. It's not going to be tipsy turvy.

>an individual human or feline being
excuse me what

>>9776497
if i wasnt on a new comp id post laughingwhore.jpg
but i agree thats a little starry-eyed of him

>>9776489
lol the GOP has been almost as uncooperative as the dems desu. theyre all fucking useless.

>>9776515
>there will be profit-taking
>shit logic
>It's not going to go down rest of this year
now THATS just insanity anon

>>9776552
GOP and Dem are the same traitors really (remember the RINOs ?)
I mean, real Trump supporters in Congress

Silver is still up with the SPY
Sometimes the Bogs are benevolent

>>9776534

>>9774991
They're good. I'm waiting for a pull back in tech companies, but SQ is one of my favorites.
>>9775086
This guy is fucking with you.
(Sorry to spoil the fun)

>>9775379
>Chink tech stocks

>>9775671
Kek.
>XIV
May return to holding a little SVXY after the rate hike

>>9776087
This. :(

>>9776154
Really hoping for SPY to get a kick in the balls with the rate hikes so I can re-leverage the hell out of my positions at some great prices.

>>9776552
it's not insanity. AMD is going to become less risky. The big swings aren't going to be happening as much as it hits stability.

>>9776571
>I mean, real Trump supporters in Congress
few and far between. you need a majority to get shit done, and a super majority to get the really important shit done. its just not that easy

>>9776594
interested in that as well

SP and DOW still have plenty off room to cover
NASDAQ has always historically been in the lead

>>9776499
>Havent you learned anything?
That the market can stay irrational for extended periods of time and that one should not fight the market.
I'm up 8% for the week and hitting all time highs

>>9776598
Well at least I've definitely deleveraged myself like I'd been saying I would a couple weeks ago.
It sucks missing out on this tech stocks bull run, was there's such an uneasiness to it for me.

>>9776630
im thinking dow will be the one desu
its got all the energy memes that are getting fucked right now because of oil, and a lot of those megacaps will be effected by higher borrowing rates. not to mention how a rate hike will boost the dollar and cause everything to come down a bit. but once it finds its feet, and oil turns around, itll be really bullish

I'm liking this healthy end of day pull back / profit taking by shorts on TLT.
I sold my short term puts near the high of the day.
Looks pretty set to continue dumping at open tomorrow.

>>9776650
Im referring to "muh interest rates"
NO PULLBACK will take place, this is the 9 VIX mission golden, continuation pattern from 2017

>>9776687
Jesus
PRICED.IN

get some CRON yo
shit is gonna be the first tradeable weed farmer on the Qs. and if the bill passes tomorrow, itll look very good in the future

>>9776738
well see.
i think the FED is gonna have to get more aggressive with how flat the yield curve is

>>9775671
Look at ZIV, almost impossible to lose money (until the crash)

Does anyone know when UVXY reports earnings?

>>9776783
next tuesday or thursday i think

Shorting TLT was the easiest money I have made since I started trading.

Golden Bulls win yet again

Bought a few amd puts for tomorrow how fucked am I?

Holy shit.
Look at this order on Robinhood.
10,000 contracts.

>>9776809
pretty fun isnt it?
yoou just gotta be like a sniper and not try to do it on every small swing. go for when its a strong chance of gapping in your direction, as the gaps against you are fucking devastating an hard to hold through.

once you see the yield curve getting more flat again, its time to go once the daily chart confirms a reversal. FEDs are trying to normalize the curve by dumping longterm bonds right now

Last reminder to all HMNY baggies, you all lost 12% today while ALT gained 13%. You could start recouping your losses at any time.

>>9776858
turbo fucked

>>9776858
It's okay, like someone said everyone will sell a rocketing stock to get cash.

AKA youre fucked.

>>9776858
you just doing it for the intraday thing? you might be fine. but then, if tutes are suddenly interested then oure likely looking at a total loss of your positions

>>9776858
F

>>9776874
It was great, now on to CRON. That seems like the obvious play given the circumstances.

>thread bullish on AMD

>everyone posting how they sold at $13 or are hoping for declines

top kek, the low IQ people in this thread are disgusting

>>9776902
indeed. look at that fucking close

>>9776899
>>9776880
>>9776889
>/biz/ says im fucked
Looks like i made the right call

>>9776918
there is a difference between avg biz poster and the people who said you are fucked.

>>9776936
If they did know what exactly was going to happen tomorrow they would be billionaires and not shit posting on a Russian piano playing fourm

>>9776904
christ anon you dont gotta take it so personnel
its probably gonna pull back a little whether you willing to accept that reality or not

i got no stake in it and am not particularly interested in it, so dont take it as an insult

>>9776936
>there is a difference between avg biz poster and the people who said you are fucked.
No there isn't. There are the people here who know they're retarded and the people who are only "pretending" to be retarded.

>>9776951
maybe billionaires post here, bud?

Lets all recognize the great performence of Newell Brands the past few days
Even analysts turned bullish

>>9776951
That's a good question but again I'm only messing around on /biz/. Stocks are a silly game and I don't get too deep into it.

>>9776955
I got no stake either. I just want to harden you into the position so you remember when mistaken.

>>9776989
Based Newell will save us all.

>>9776982
If a billionaire is posting on biz they've run out of things in life that matter to them and should be put on suicide watch

>>9776904
Says you. I'm pretty high in IQ

>277.5

its fucking over for bears

>>9776951
were all just guessing
some of us are making more educated guesses than others

>>9776982
remember that singapore MM guy that was here a few months ago? id wager hes prolly got a fat stack. and there was some NYSE guy here a month ago as well. and i know ive taked to that dude on 8/pol/ before. theyre around. who do you think made CARV moon? billionaire shitposters.

>>9777001
kek i can dig that. i unironically learn the most from people on /biz/ when theyre screeching "NO YOU RETARDED FAGGOT DONT DO THAT". its a really good system

DOW up 300 points
My day ends + 1.17%
best day of the month

>>9776767
>ZIV
Haven't seen that one yet. Dank. Watchlisted.

>>9776715
I don't remember which section of 2017 you are referring to.
I just know that the last 2 rate hikes gave the indices a nice swift kick in the crotch, and I'm not buying the This Time It's Different (tm) meme, particularly with how overpriced treasuries are while coming off the Italian bond meltdown

>>9776738
The bond market doesn't look priced in.

>>9776795
Wednesday at 2pm.
There could be a delayed reaction from the equities market.

>>9777102
yeah look at that action AH too goddamn
i wish i had money to flip a call. that was the most obvious gap up ive ever seen

>>9777102
It was a good day

>tfw couldn’t trade today because in hospital all day

>>9777145
what for? yourself or someone else?

>>9777063
Arguments cause polarization. If you think I'm angry it's a mistake of yours in not understanding reality all that well and patterns. The properly applied force at a very specific vector angle can cause a huge amount of cascading effect over time.

>>9777123
Hey dude, what do you think of the huge fucking contract order that I spotted?
>>9776870
Any idea what to think of it?
I think it's a good sign, right?

>>9777115
rate hikes announced: 2010, 2014, 2015 bear markets
every year after that was BULLISH
Everyone knows the Fed arent going to surprise us with a larger rate, that would be the most retarded shit in the world

therefore how is anyof this not priced in? Bonds will flucuate around 3% and lower, thats it

>>9777145
Today was a hodling day. Hope you had all of your positions set yesterday

>>9777023
if you were a billionaire, you'd still post on /biz/ admit it

>>9777157

myself

>>9777191
If any of us were billionaires we would spend all day on here bogging the shit out of everyone obviously.

No comfy podcast today?

>>9777145
>>9777194
try and scoop up some weedmemes AH to get a piece of the pie tomorrow
>myself
bummer man. hospitals suck. hope they atleast gave you some fun pain pills or something

>>9777161
>If you think I'm angry it's a mistake of yours
thought you were at first, but we cool bruh
we all frens here
we just call each other faggots and niggers a lot more than most frens do

>The properly applied force at a very specific vector angle can cause a huge amount of cascading effect over time
you talking stocks or metaphysical shit?

>>9777164
>what do you think of the huge fucking contract order that I spotted?
wat do u mean?

>>9776870
oh shit
go short on the next rally i guess. if it doesnt gap own too much tomorrow that is
it also could be a hedge too for some big guy (the hedgies always use those ITM options to hedge big positions), just in case. so nothings for sure. but thats definitely a lot of money and a lot of leverage

>>9777227
The spamming of Low IQ as an insult is something people don't understand either. The usage of it and meme usage is specifically to make people think about IQ more.

It's a deliberate effort to increase emphasis people have on IQ.

>>9776461
Ayy. KHC ended neutral. Fuck it, I'll take it.

God fuck netflix
What a fucking meme

How can i operate with all these retards in the market who will buy at any price

Fuck
Just

how do I options trade and not fuck myself

>>9777290
ive always found negative reinforcement to be the only thing that gets me up off my ass. youre right. thats a huge problem with people these days. they do something absolutely retarded or malicious and get coddled/rewarded for it. not even just individuals either. you see the same pattern in politicians (and their partys), to corporations, to banks, to welfare leeches.

>>9777333
Fucking checked

>>9777296
those food consumers tend to only go green when the markets get more fearful, because they are defensive stocks
often times on red days youll see the food and soda companies greem

>>9777303
>How can i operate with all these retards in the market who will buy at any price
you a scalper or some shit?

>>9777323
sell them against stock.
or you could do defined risk reward things with like spreads and shit. if you dont have margins and want to do long naked options all i can say is, work on your timing and always use brackets. dont take the shot unless youre sure of it

also, study those maths in the pricing of them like youre studying for college. it will help you avoid tremendous losses.

a lot of people hate papertrading but i think its essential for options trading

>>9777333
Yes, of course. Then you go down and can develop a better system. A government that doesn't allow mechanisms of tax % changes, that splits at some other divide rather than a battle for more or less redistribution. Maybe design it so the focus is on efficient usage of those resources. Redesign it even more so the legal writing is re-written in a better designed language similar to software. You can go on and on through this pathway.

The problem is you end up in the same spot. The nexus of all these systems is still humanity. All those changes you've made, even though improving the system, are pointless. Because growth in the underlying nexus (increasing IQ) or in artificial intelligence swamps those gains. Meaning all those changes and system tweaks you've forced through would end up pointless in comparison to simply increasing the most important variable.

Hence everyone intelligent enough doesn't care much for existing systems.

>>9777209
he probably making it now

Boys Check: Steinhoff International Holdings NV
This shit ist about to hit the fan.
It went down from 4€ to 0,07€ since December.
Rebound startet today with +44%.
100% is in till 30 june.

>>9777168
The bond market is currently moving rapidly and with a lot of momentum.
With the decisiveness of the current movement in the bond market, the current price of bonds is absolutely not priced in for anything.

>>9777227
>>9777269
That was 10k contracts of puts... which would control 1m shares... worth more than $100m.
Somebody literally wrote a transaction for the rights to sell them over $100m.

VKTX $9.39 stock offering

DO NOT SHORT, I REPEAT DO NOT SHORT

Market closed at around $9.08
Offering news lured shorts into drop to $8.7 low
Offering priced at $9.39
Last 2 dilutions were discounted, but still rose days after as tutes racked up shares they could not buy in oversubscribed offering

MDGL has similar MOA drug and rose from $18(?) to $325 within a year

>>9777423
Its doesnt matter because short term bonds to 4% will literally NEVER happen

>>9777423
yeah but also think about the litany of other things it could be. it could simply be a protective put. a "just in case". i know id cover my ass if i had $100M in treasuries.

desu if youre trying to get a read on what direction an underlying is going with options, check open interest, not volume. the options sellers are more often than not right. but this is a very large order. so who knows?

>>9777400
well put anon
especially
>Hence everyone intelligent enough doesn't care much for existing systems.
ive always been adamant about that as well. you fix everyones (or at least a majority) brains, you fix the world. simple as that

>>9774119
Fucking day job, saved up 5k and turned into 9k now biatch. As long as you aren't fucking dumb you should be able to make money.

>>9777209
It's coming! I'm just running late

>Mfw I only bought 8 shares of AMD at 11.05
Been waiting for a drop to buy in more ever since.

Kek, RH finally approved me for crypto trading

>>9777453
>vktx shoots up may 18th
Why the fuck wasn't anyone talking about this then??? Fucking hate seeing ways I could have doubled my money...

>>9777507
What is the expected value of a treatment for adults that gives brain plasticity and increases cognitive ability similar to how steroids improves muscle gain.

>>9777528

>>9777191
>>9777206
It doesn't matter if you make it or not, you are still stuck posting here for life.

>>9777507
So the writer of that large TLT put is actually bullish on bonds ?
That is what I have been thinking and saying here if you remember.

Not that bad for my low starting capital

>>9777532
Me too kek will be able for recoup losses ez

>>9777168
i gotta run out rn but im gonna get back and draw some lines to show you my bear thesis on bonds. i think the FED are running out of options as to how to normalize the yield curve (since theyve been dumping bonds for a while now to try and fix it, entirely in vain). now that were seeing good jobs numbers and the markets starting to act all bullish again finally and move past this sideways shit, they can afford another 25 basis points no problem. at the very least i expect a little more hawkishness in the near term

>>9777582
perhaps. its really hard to say right now. thats why i stayed out of bonds for tonight.

>>9777489
>literally NEVER
It's happened before.
Shit was even at 8% once.
>short term bonds
I'm looking at 20+ year treasuries, which have already passed a 3% yield within the last few months and are currently below 3% yield.
The long term bonds will continue to raise their yields.

>>9777507
This is one of the options combinations with the highest open interest.
Volume for today exceeded the open interest -- more contracts changed hands today than there are contracts in existence on the market.
This transaction was single-handedly 1/5th of today's volume.
This fucker is huge. I think it is a protective put. That's way to massive to be speculation by an institutional investor; I think they'd just short sell instead.
The option also expires exactly 2 days after the rate hike thing next week.

>>9777617
I trust the FED will sort things out and pump my shit

>>9777675
I know its happened before.. the 8% will unironically NEVER NEVER NEVER happen again ever in history

flucuate around 3%, theres no other way besides total world destruction, which means the bonds will consolidated, ad because they arent 1:1 with yield may just drop lower anyway

I need Utilities that have ex div soon
GO

>>9777704
youre heavy on banks right?
did you see what they did last time? theyll definitely pump banks again

>>9777675
>It's happened before.
>Shit was even at 8% once.
yeah its probably not something we could take at this point. what i see happening is in the event of a cataclysm theyre just gonna dump the funds rate and smash the bonds down into negative yields and buy them up themselves. to keep the scam afloat. pretty sure this is what germany does

>>9777675
>That's way to massive to be speculation by an institutional investor; I think they'd just short sell instead. The option also expires exactly 2 days after the rate hike thing next week.
yeah thats what im thinking as well. it seems like some guy meant to sell his $100M in bonds at 120 but forgot.
however, if it IS a protective put, this could very well imply a downward move, as why would he buy protective puts with that much time left if he didnt think it was gonna go further ITM before then? mustve thought this was his last shot

is the market about to have a massive correction?

>>9778012
maybe. its not likely without some absolutely TERRIBLE news though.
what makes you say that?

> tfw Canada is legalizing marijuana today

hope you guys picked up some Aphria/Canopy

>>9778043
its tomorrow tho
but i got a heavy position in APHQF and a smaller one in CRON. how did i do senpai?

>>9778012
I don't feel it this month. Trump summit is going to infuse the market with a huge rush of meme fuel. 2019/2020 is more likely but only in certain sectors.

It's going to be a feast or famine market through 2020. Some sectors will get hit hard and others will rise higher.

Energy, Autos, Infrastructure are toast.

>>9778070
As long as you got some APHQF you'll be fine

I feel like my luck is gonna run out tomorrow

>>9777453
just saved your asses, gapping up hard as fuck tomorrow shorts got shit on

>>9778089
still saying its the euro banks that will jump first. we will feel it no doubt, but the real carnage is gonna be across the pond. were just gonna get bogged by association

>>9778093
as of this morning i got roughly 1/3rd of my shit in aphria. i went with CRON too as its the only nasdaq listed grower. if the votes good then for most of the world and robinhooders in particular itll be THE weed play (aside from canopy obvously) thats available to them

>>9778110
i wish i had settled cash...
i always miss all the cool biopharms

based

>>9778097
What were your trades

>>9777532
>>9777614
All in on Dogecoin. 10x by EOM.

>>9777585
Do options on USO mah friend, I've made 50 dollars a day for the past 3 days with 350 dollars

>>9778124
Yep, I've got a good amount in APHQF and Canopy, and then small amounts littered through other growing weed stocks (THCX, ACBFF, CGC, SPRWF and HYYDF). I figure at least one of these companies is going to be MASSIVE in the coming years. No CRON here although it does look like a solid grab.

Also, I've spent all day thinking it was Thursday lol so you're right about the vote being tomorrow.

>>9778097
spend tomorrow playing defensively, de-risking, and profit taking. its alway nice to pullout on a green day, so if you got green and are up a sizeable %, then tke some and go buy yourself an ice cream sandwich or something

>>9778193
did that straddle work out for you?

>>9778089
What makes you think infrastructure is done for ?
Didn't Trump announce his massive infrastructure program ?
Or maybe do think it has something to do with the general insolvency at the state and municipal levels ?

>>9778213
im thinking youre gonna have a fantastic day tomorrow m8. i meant to grab sme more of the penny ones, but decided that id be better off trading the ones that are more established (as they will immediately be able to seize market share), and also figured id be better off trading CRON as it is listed on nasdaq and is more accessible for burgers (without the big price tag of CGC)

>>9778154
I sold APRN and KHC to cut my losses and IRBT for some good change. Bought CRON, CGC, and HMNY. I don't know how I hit HMNY on the downswing but I'm up for now. Waiting for tomorrow expecting
>>9778247
Im debating on selling my CRON later on in the day tomorrow. Anyone know what time the vote should be announced?

>>9778309
HMNY claims another hapless victim.

Based CRON AH

>>9778279
>general insolvency at the state and municipal levels
this is something ive been wondering. if you buy muni bonds from the state you live in, can you get the state taxes exempt from your gains from holding their debt?

>>9778309
i dont know. maybe canadian weed guy will stop by and let us know. i dont know enough about canadian politics to know where to look
>Im debating on selling my CRON later on in the day tomorrow
im gonna sell a good deal of my weed memes tomorrow on the news and wait for the profit taking to happen. then im either going harder into aphria, canopy, or cronos. to soon to tell though.whichever one dips the most i guess.
>I don't know how I hit HMNY on the downswing
i was thinking about it myself. i think itll slide a lot more,but if youre dollar cost averaging in, youll be okay. unles they get delisted. then ur fugged obviously

>>9778365
>CRON
im bummed i didnt have enough cash to get calls to flip on the bells, but i wanted to buy more chinese bonds while they were still down, so i did that instead. i got enough weed exposure right now as is

Are options the best way to turn $100 into $1000?
AMD doesn't look like it's going to stop any time soon, so I'm thinking of starting a Robinhood account (poorfag here so I can't make an account with the big boy brokers).

>>9778418
sorry me no americain impérialiste pig I don't know how taxes work on muni bonds

>>9778336
This.
Literally why would anybody want to buy shares or take an interest in HMNY right now?
The owner is definitely just going exit scam this shit.
>t. options straddle holder of probably 1 month

>>9778436
I wish I had more money too. The only thing I could liquidate at the time was my TLT puts, dumped all of it in CRON with about 10 minutes before close. Almost missed it.

>>9774427
You sound similar to me a few years ago
Currently 25, started with $3000 when I was 23
Buy bluechips and hold, don't panic sell
I've lost hundreds chasing memes (never use more than 5% of your cash on memes) lost hundreds selling early (once had 10 HEAR@ $1.25 a piece, sold them at $0.99 a piece, they are currently $18.20 a piece) (I once had shares of FCAU at $5.50 a piece, sold them @ $6.75 a piece, currently worth $21.20 a share)
Avoid 3x ETF's, even if you make money at first, you will lose it eventually

Just don't get discouraged, and diversify as much as you can afford
I was below my original account for a good 8 months at first, never been below my starting point since, after I stopped going all in on memes
My BA stock is up %135+ and my AMZN is up %60 from when I bought it (would be more if I stopped trying to reposition myself so often), my MU average price is $30.00, and my other tech stocks (MSFT, NVDA, AMD) are all up %35 on average

Some advice I'd give my younger self is buy a few stocks with big dividends, then just use dividend money to buy memes (bio-penny stocks, Greek shipping memes)
And buy SPY and DIA every time they have a red day, I really wish I realized that sooner

Right now open interests on spy has calls 32 to 1 against puts in terms of $ value. Either I am a dumbass for being too fearful or something gotta give soon and fast.

>>9773993
Agreed!

>>9778502
>since 2016
That averages out to about $60 a month in profits. Anon you can do a hell of a lot better than that.

>>9778439
>Are options the best way to turn $100 into $1000?
yes and no. 1000% returns are very much possible (but unlikely). but that leverage works both ways. they are also WAY more likely than stocks to get completely nuked. youre basically trading safety and likelihood of making money for intense leverage. if you ont know shit about them, STOP and DONT TRADE THEM YET. watch the videos in the OP and read up on as many books as you can about them. then papertrade them so you get comfy with them. and dont neglect to learn the maths behind the pricing. its 100% worth it

>>9778470
merde

>>9778481
i just wish i had margins so i could flip my positions around quicker. though it may be a blessing in disguise. overtrading is what led to me losing my margins in the first place

>>9778502
>Avoid 3x ETF's
theyre fun for swings, and absolutely crucial for hedging imo
i agree tho that theyre pretty dangerous to just buy and hold due to how the gap downs fuck you. the expense ratios on some of the more obscure ones are fucking insane too. thy obviously arent designed for super long term shit

>>9778596
Even if I had margins I wouldn't use them, that is just asking for trouble honestly.

>>9778548
Yes, I know, but I only started with $60, started adding more in every week in November 2016, until I got to $3000 last June

I've made tons of mistakes, and learned from all of them
And I'm happy that I've beaten my banks interested rate , which was the original goal I had when I started this

I'd be up a good total of $2,000 this year easily if I stopped trying to day trade
>>9778596
I get panicy if I hold 3x ETF's for more than a week, I made $80 in a month day trading them (jnug n just) then lost it all in 2 days, so I decided to stop, since holding bluechips made better returns for me

>>9778596
>>9778627
I already know how to trade on margin. I trade crypto and have spent the past week charting out stocks in the traditional financial markets, and I feel like charting these out is much, much easier than charting out cryptocurrencies.

I just don't have experience with options because there are none in crypto, but since you say that options are like margin trading, then I might as well give them a shot on Robinhood.

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>>9778673
>>9778673
>>9778673
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>>9778627
its nice to be able to do the more advanced (but less risky) options strats. and it also lets you trade with your cash immediately, rather than dealing with settled cash rules.

>>9778659
you are misunderstanding. they are absolutely nothing like margin trading. im urging you to NOT try it out yet until you understand them fully. read books. check pic related for our library and go to post >>417 for the book on options and also check post >>36 which is a book on financial risk management.it has some chapters on options.

options are arguably MUCH more lucrative as well as risky than most crypto plays desu

>>9778716
>>9778659
forgot pic is on THIS computer
also if you have any /biz/ lit worth posting, please do so. trying to make a decent library for /smg/

>>9778502
How do I find stocks with big dividends? Any pro strats?

>>9778770
look up what REITs are
real estate investment trusts
should be bullish on rising rates
just pay close attention to their holdings at all times

Is pic related any good?

Im 22 and have around 50k in savings.
I dont know anything about investing

>>9775835
follow up qustion - does anyone know if you can buy put options on these VIX ETFs or any products that experience similar decay from daily resets?