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Out of curiosity, I was wondering how and if a government could get money without taxation?

>> No.9740596

State owned businesses. E.g gold mines, petrol, etc.

>> No.9740618

>>9740555
>How would a government would get money
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck would chuck wood?

>> No.9740637

>>9740555
Fees for services.

>> No.9740696

>>9740555
Define tax
No seriously, there are some "fees" and "levys" the government apply to certain stuff.... I just consider this tax

>> No.9740861

>>9740696
I would define taxation as any money taken out of money a person or a business earns and also any many charged for someone to live on their own property.

>> No.9740863

>>9740696
this.
Also there's state monopolies, renting and licensing of infrastructure and resources, suzerainty and tributes, charging for visas from immigrants or perhaps some surrendering of wealth for an expedited process, and gambling revenues from casinos like in Monaco.

I would assume a granular approach with multiple sources of revenue is more bureaucratic and 'expensive' than a simplistic tax code, a tax code also better normalizes government revenues over time. The problem is that a lot of countries now have these maddeningly complicated tax codes, with lots of rebates and refunds for all the special interest groups which undermines the original simplicity and cost-to-tax-dollar effectiveness of taxation.

>> No.9740870

>>9740861
>charged for someone to live on their own property.
What is Allodial title?

>> No.9740882

>>9740696
Car registration
Admin services
Fee for the establishment of a service
Etc. mainly useless shit that has to be regulated because of imported shitskins and kikes.

>> No.9741689
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>>9740555
Govs already have unlimited money because they are free to print more money, either physically or digitally (because they control the centralized banking software and centralized bank notes printing).
That and the fact that they own tons of state monopolies they exploit thanks to their monopoly on violence (as they are the most heavily armed entity and don't allow any competition on that) which they enforce as they want.

Basically they do not tax you because they need money, they tax you because they want keep you poor so that their power is ensured.

ps: nice diggits

>> No.9741897

Taxation is theft.

You don't pay for facebook, they advertise to you. Just add more monetisation to services individuals use.

>> No.9741907

>>9740555
BCH donations. We can call it.... govBCH

>> No.9741911

>>9741897
>You don't pay for facebook,
If you don't consider your privacy and person information a price you pay - then yes

>> No.9741925

>>9741897
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>> No.9741934

>>9740555
You do know people used to willingly give money to govenment right?

Because they wanted to help their nation/industry.

Even upto ww1 private individuals donated huge sums to fund wars/development...then along came fiat so now they print what they like and steal your life away with inflation + productivity tax