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Singapore

>>9524522

pick up your hammer and sickle

>>9524522
Singapore. Definitely. US is pretty good too, even though we're behind Asia rn, considering the tech industry.

>>9524522
I love this guy. He always looks humble af

>>9524531
>>9524566
Just putting it out there while it may meet the criteria the OP described the one thing I think needs to be said about Singapore is that it is a boring, soulless country.

Singapore. Cleaner and safer than wherever you live now. Great street food. No CGT.

Swiss here
Get your money up and get the fuck in here
Comfiest country for the upcoming 100 years

>>9524577
That's not really him.

>>9525073
I'm glad to see he is getting into crypto even though he had nothing to do with it besides being born with the same name that the bitcoin creator triumvirate made up to protect their privacy.
its like, all this media attention was just suddenly thrust upon him, and he decided to accept it and see where it leads

>>9524522
Italy, as i recall it they don't pay taxes for crypto earning up to a certain amount. But the amount was somewhat high, so you could actually earn quite a lot without paying taxes.
If you are EU residence, you can just move to Italy and you will pay taxes there.
There are unquestionably other EU countries with similar or better Crypto legislation, but Italy is a nice country.

The Netherlands. Their crypto tax is so fucking low you wouldn't believe it.

Estonia, Tallinn. 0 tax on crypto

Hong Kong has no capital gains tax.

>>9524522

http://tellawallet.com

>>9524522
At the moment Bulgaria (as long as you live in a gated community far from gypsies) - one of the safest in Europe, musilms know their place and taxes are the lowest in Europe.
Without the low taxes everything will go to shit though, and good luck relying on governments to be sane.
I'd look for a citizenship that allows for easy travel instead. This way when one country goes to shit you just move to another one. Only amerimutts pay taxes when they live abroad.

>>9525058
How many trades are you allowed to make before its professional activity.

>>9525381
the rest of the taxes are so fucking high you wouldn't believe it

>>9524522
Bunch of pleb answers ITT
Read up on the flag theory anon. Set up a LLC + bank account on the BVI, or any other offshore no-tax jurisdiction. This will allow you to process any income you have as tax free business expenses.
Residency is a bit trickier. Some countries will allow you to give up your current residency no questions asked, which will free you from any tax obligations. Others will insist to see proof that you are becoming a legal resident somewhere else. If you don't care about government sponsored healthcare and old age pensions, I'd recommend no residency at all if you can get away with it. If you need to become a legal resident somewhere, I recommend either a retirement visa in the Philippines (you have to be 35 years or older if I remember correctly) or Malaysia's MM2H visa. Panama or Belize might also be good options, but I haven't really looked into them. Keep in mind that just because you're a resident in country, doesn't mean you actually have to live there.

>>9525437
How hard is it to become an Estonian citizen?

>>9524522

no matter where you are the one and only crypto worth investing is HBT
i mean hbt has a solid partnership with Mozilla and a major partnership with Telenor (mobile carrier)

Seeing as so many people suggested Singapore, Can I get the deets on opening a bank account and the process of cashing out in Singapore? Preliminary research tells me you have to be a resident of Singapore (with a legit address and id) before they'd allow you to open an account

>>9525437
Fucking lie

>>9525176
His name isn’t even satoshi god damnit

Actually Philippines it's the best country, I don't understand how nobody talks about, the retirement visa cost 10k USD and you can get it if u are 30 years old, if you are a poorfag or younger than 30 then you can marry a filipina what is very easy, then the weather its great but sometimes you get a typhoon or two, food is great, women are beautiful, they speak English, and the best is that foreigners don't have to pay any tax for foreign income. They are crypto friendly and you can use coins.ph or localbitcoin to cash out.

>>9524580
You also get the death penalty for using drugs.

>>9526036
i agree however it is also very violent and dangerous society and guns are common

>>9526045
>implying it is a bad thing

>>9526036
Philippines is a hellhole! East Asians were a mistake

>>9526101
You can get residency in the Philippines and then live somewhere else, only for tax purposes, I'm speaking for myself here, I hold a few passports and a big amount of crypto and I was living on a high tax country, I was getting taxed for income generated overseas, having a offshore company in Belize or Panama don't help as those countries are FACTA, the best and cheaper option was to get residence in the Philippines, I also thought about Vanuatu that cost 80k to get residency there, Cayman island and Monaco are also good but investment it's about 1 MIL.
Philippines it's only 2 hrs from Hong Kong or Singapore, Australia is 7 hrs, yes it's a shithole, specially manila, but small cities are OK and have no or low crime, FYI I never been in Manila

>>9525073
Like a lot like him though.

>>9526101
>East asians

>>9526045
>implying it is a bad thing

singaporefag here. 0% capital gains tax for citizens, 10% for foreigners. Cashed out a pretty decent sum last bullrun, Gemini to my savings account straight. Feels really comfy man.

>>9525469
Bulgarian here, If you have a business in the white world, Bulgaria will be a great please to live in. And yes, make sure you live in a closed of complex.

Isn't Bulgaria a Gipsy country, and also cold and weather sucks?

>>9526329
Why gated complex? Do well off people get robbed, kidnapped or murdered or something? Is Romania safer?

Crypto was a mistake

didn't NZ had 0 tax on crypto as well?

>>9526354
weather is actually perfect, Bulgarians are white, but with medieval culture

>>9526371
You will be on top of society, show some cunt where you live and she will fuck you. Also you avoid the everyday struggle, no vandalism, no low class neighbors.

Gyspies are literal subhuman and or very very oppressed. We don't do multiculturalism.

Don't go to east Europe.
Safe crypto countries with low tax are
Philippines
Hong kong
Singapore * only citizens
Cayman island
Swisserland
Monaco

>>9524531
>Singapore
singapore if you like to get jailed for even the smallest amount of drugs and when busted with a larger amount you are dead..

>>9526045
>>9526087
Piss someone off and its the old cocain sprinkle

Dubai is a good option,
5k cost to set a company and then do the residency process, 2 month later you can live over there, but I Dnt like arabs And I really like pork

>>9525469
>tfw comfy dual Canadian-Bulgarian EU citizenship

>>9526459
>im a degenerate who can't even stop taking drugs just for a week to cash out my cryptos
yeah you deserve to be caned and then jailed. Theres a reason why our streets are squeaky clean and people leave their cars unlocked at night

if you already made it you could do like roger ver and buy citizenship on st kitts, no taxes basically

lots of niggers though but they arent as bad as american niggers

>>9526237
This sounds good. How long do you have to be there to qualify?

>>9525176
kek this entire backstory isn't even true but reddit will eat this shit up.

>>9526556

>faggots actually believe this

>Singapore
>implying you long pigs will be allowed into the corpofamily environment and not into the junglenigger mass behind the wall

>>9525469
In every single of these threads there's always a slavshit shilling his shithole as if anyone actually wants to live there

There's a good reason every single country in southern europe is filled with your "people"

>>9526732
I honestly want to live in Romania. Can anyone who actually knows tell me why it wouldn't be great?

>>9526732
how much money can you make from poor people
how about the rich ?
People move out, and fuck the westerners in the belly fat, because we outcompete you in every single way.

Best scenarios is, have your business in the west, live in the east.

>>9526371
> Do well off people get robbed, kidnapped or murdered or something?
Not really, violent crime rates are actually lower than many western european countries. I prefer gated communities because I don't have to be close to smelly gypsies and depressing commieblocks.
Besides, renting a luxury apt in a gated community is cheaper than renting a smelly condo in Berlin's Turkish neighbourhoods.
>>9526354
>gypsy country
You don't need to live in a ghetto. It's as much of a gypsy country as the west is a nigger country. Hence my gated community suggestion.
>weather
cold winters, yeah, but also extremely hot summers.
>>9526441
>safe
>philippines
>>9526537
mirin, uk-Bulgaria here
>>9526732
not a slav, and yes, Bulgaria has low taxes and no social system, therefore their human garbage moves to Italy and Spain to leech. How does that make Bulgaria bad and Spain good, lmfao

>>9526750
Back when I was looking for a EE country, Bulgarian gated communities looked better than Romanian ones, otherwise I would have opted for Romania, too, despite my dual citizenship.
Still, every benefit I listed applies to RO as well + their whores are much sluttier (I was married so I didn't care about that part).

Japan, maybe

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/12/japan-rare-earths-huge-deposit-of-metals-found-in-pacific.html

>>9527044
Awesome. Thank you. Do you speak Bulgarian? Another reason I'm thinking Romania over Bulgaria is I definitely don't want to deal with a new alphabet. Romanian looks very learnable.

>>9526966
>>9527112
It seems like I have to stay (live) for 5 continous years in bulgaria and also command the language. Not to count an income in Bulgaria (which I suppose could be as simple as buying a pizza shop somewhere for 20k USD).

https://www.dualcitizenship.com/countries/bulgaria.html

>>9527151
Just be self employed, pay 200lv a month in taxes.

Interesting stuff. Yeah Japan sounds good buy they got high tax on crypto so u are fucked.

>>9527112
Had citizenship before I learned the language, some family members are fluent speakers so I had an easy time learning it afterwards tho
>>9527192
This implies min wage imho, I pay a bit more because the min techie wage is higher. It's something like 250 euros + 10% tax for all my online hustles

The guy has like 67 BTC.

On a different note, does anyone have a binance referral code? I'm signing up on there.

>>9527333

Best Anon

Here is the refferal code 15039759

>>9524522
The United States of America

>>9527362
Done. Figured someone could benefit from me signing up because why not. What do you get from it anyway?

>>9527418

20% (40% if I am holding 500 BNB, which I am not) of whatever trade fees you pay

>>9527530
Not bad.

Oh well, I'm off to buy some 10 ETHs worth of tokens. Thinking BAT, REQ, RLC, MKR, DGD, REP, ZRX and OMG. All solid projects, plan to hold atleast a year.

>>9526720
kek

>>9525176
Plebbitter detected.
Dorian is just some guy who the press used to make a headline and some BCorean decided to use him being used by "compensating him" for the two hours media storming on him which he suffered.

>>9525058
>Switzerland
>wanting to pay a premium for all kinds of shit including healthcare
Go to Portugal instead lads, no taxes on crypto, very cheap food, comfy weather, comfy population, very cheap real estate.
It's literally a dream there.

>>9527806

where in Portugal? everywhere I see the real estate rates are on par with most western European cities.

I have been considering Portugal. I just want to live in 3 bed place overlooking the beach. How much is it going to cost and where in Portugal would you recommend?

>>9527844
Trás os Montes is an example.
If you go somewhere between Chaves and Vila Real you're close to these 2 cities (15-25 minutes) and an hour away from Porto.

>>9527844
Also, you're better off making business with the land owners themselves, contractors charge you off the ass like crazy.

My 800m2 land and 5 bedroom home cost me around 250k.

>>9527867

can you get by with only English?

>>9524522

doriancoin.org

Isle of man no cap gains tax. English speaking in the UK

>>9524522
If you are a USA nigger, you should stay in puerto rico for a day over half a year for that no capital gains tax (assuming you can work from anywhere)
Some cryptoo whales are making a city there called puertopia

>>9524522
SLOVENIA, anon. No tax on crypto gain. Not a lot of refugee scum. Beautiful nature.

>>9526459

It's completely justified. Death to all you degenerate druggies.

>>9528573
Yeah you can, don't expect a lot of locals to speak English though, most speak French as a second language since many come back from being French or Swiss emigrants.

If you want to have an easy life speaking English, then you would have to pick either Algarve, Lisbon or Porto, if you live in one of those three places you're guaranteed to find a big demographic that speaks English.

>>9526459
They don't want any repeat offenders.

I’d never live anywhere I can’t carry a gun

>>9524522
INDIA

>>9525486
It's more about how much you cash out in fiat compared to your other earnings.
If that's too much then it'll be taxed as income, which is not that much if you're not making a lot.

But last year I had 0 money from a job and 30k via cryptos and they didn't give a shit. I had no taxes at all on that.
And I asked my official tax office about it, they said they didn't care, just put on my tax report how much I still own and pay a tax on that (it's 0.1% starting at 50k$).

If I had to pay taxes on my 30k cash out it would have been around 2k.

Isn't the Bahamas a tax haven?
I doubt they have crypto laws/regulations there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdNvy8pz_Co
Heres a video on Puerto Rico

>>9524522
Slovenia

>>9524522
Singapore or Montreal

>>9526045
Honestly didn't know this, wtf

>>9530311
yes

>>9524522
Unironically Britain, if you keep yourself in a low tax bracket and cash out some under the radar, you can get away with quite a lot,

Scotland specifically
Pros

>Free healthcare
>free education
>not a third world shithole
>not many Muslims (glasgow)
>no niggers (a few respectable black men) but no nigger culture
>scenery is god tier, cheap housing in rural areas and half of the country is as good as untouched.


Cons:
>CGT is not the lowest in Europe but better than France and Germany plus those countries have mussies galore.
>cucked ((government)) but unless your either really poor or really rich, you don’t notice much of a difference
>you get called a Muslim or a britcuck by association
>west of Scotland has relatively high violent crime compared to the rest of the uk but better than London Birmingham and Manchester and mostly drug related or isolated personal revenge shit.

I’m never totally leaving this country. Not for patriotic reasons but because I wake up every morning to this view.

I’d go to Malta, but look to see if the SEC goes to Wyoming soon. If the Feds promise to leave WY alone then that’s def the place. The hive mind and endless disposable income of American is where inovation will thrive...if allowed.

Germany is still tax free if you hold for over a year, right?

>>9531393
What are those fireballs in the picture?

>>9531581
Lights
>lrn2reflection

>>9531524

dont come to germany

full of niggers and rapefugees

>>9531524
>>9531610
dont come, every person who made it big escapes this shithole thanks to the islamic invasion

>>9531792
Okay, but you didnt answer my question.

>>9524531
good luck...unless you can secure a work permit, or sponsor your own as a big-time entrepreneur (no, your crappy wordpress dev skills don't count), you aren't getting into SG. It isn't soulless...there's a lot going on and a fair bit to do (though most people like to shop), but again, you aren't going to get within a million miles of a PR unless you have some SERIOUS qualifications. About 5 years ago, you could get PR with about $50k in your bank account with the entrepass...that's gone now.

So is Germany tax free if you hold for over a year?

>>9531610
>>9531792
sorry you fags were raped. But that's a *you problem*.

any way to send your job income / pay taxes in a tax-heaven and keep living/working in EU ?

Netherlands has a 2% tax on stocks and crypto

>>9528757