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9491152 No.9491152 [Reply] [Original]

Solidity developer here (that's the ethereum programming language),

There's like maybe 5-10 max actual solidity engineers in the ethereum token space. The rest are literally copy pasting and changing a couple variables. I shit you not its nearly 100% scams right now.

Don't believe me? Go to any of the solidity development channels and watch how many "developers" join in and go "HEY I JUST SOLD AN ICO TOKEN AND ITS NOW GOT A MARKETCAP OF A QUARTER BILLION HOW DO I MAKE THIS TOKEN DO WHAT I SAID IT WOULD DO"

Trust me, tokens might go up and down but so close to 100% of them are scams that you might as well never touch them. The worst part is the smart contracts can't be changed after they are deployed so the devs who launch these copy pastes can't ever fix them without launching a new token entirely.


Don't believe me? Link me any ETH token's etherscan page and i'll tell you right away if they just copy pasted the ERC20 beginners contract and it's never going to do anything.

>> No.9491412

https://etherscan.io/token/OmiseGo
https://etherscan.io/token/TenXPay
https://etherscan.io/token/ZRX
https://etherscan.io/token/civic

>> No.9491463

>>9491152
Airswap. Not going to link it. Find it yourself you pretentious fuck.

>> No.9491554

>>9491152
https://etherscan.io/token/0xf230b790e05390fc8295f4d3f60332c93bed42e2

>> No.9491602

>>9491412
OMG

https://etherscan.io/address/0xd26114cd6EE289AccF82350c8d8487fedB8A0C07#code

>Copy pasted ERC20 token contract with a premine.

>> No.9491623

>>9491412
PAY

https://etherscan.io/address/0xB97048628DB6B661D4C2aA833e95Dbe1A905B280#code

>Generic ERC20 token where the dev can forcibly take your tokens away from you, neat.

>> No.9491635

>>9491412

ZRX

https://etherscan.io/address/0xe41d2489571d322189246dafa5ebde1f4699f498#code

>Literally just the ERC20 token contract with the comments removed and names changed, 100% scam no development went into this.

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9491668

>>9491152
The regulatory authorities will most likely go after Ethereum at some point. Big money won't come in until the state of cryptocurrency is cleaned up.

>> No.9491683

>>9491412
CIVIC

https://etherscan.io/address/0x41e5560054824ea6b0732e656e3ad64e20e94e45#code

>Is heavily modified ERC20 code, with an option to actually upgrade to a new contract with new code when the devs get shit together. Interesting, still copy pasted but they can actually fix it later.

>> No.9491692

>>9491152
Ethereum is only good for ponzi dapps, you're right.

When VeChain mainnet launches. It's going to flip ETH.

>> No.9491711

>>9491554
TRX

https://etherscan.io/address/0xf230b790e05390fc8295f4d3f60332c93bed42e2#code

>There's fucking nothing here but a copy pasted ERC20 contract, no development went into this and you could launch this in thirty seconds of effort.

>> No.9491731

https://etherscan.io/token/0x514910771af9ca656af840dff83e8264ecf986ca

https://github.com/smartcontractkit/chainlink

https://www.pivotaltracker.com/n/projects/2129823

>> No.9491738

>>9491635
What does radar relay run on then. Tokens=/= dapps

>> No.9491763

sobering thread OP. I think most of us knew this deep down inside, but thank you for laying it out.

>> No.9491776

>>9491711
lmfao, maybe that's why it's not mooning despite the 31st coming up

>> No.9491785

>>9491711
>TRX is a scam
You didn't have to remind us anon

>> No.9491805

https://etherscan.io/token/0x514910771af9ca656af840dff83e8264ecf986ca

>> No.9491808

>>9491731

LINK

https://etherscan.io/address/0x514910771af9ca656af840dff83e8264ecf986ca#code

>Generic ERC677 Token (An improved version of ERC20 but still copy paste). No development except for name changes and max amount of tokens.

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9491835

>>9491808
NOW THATS WHERE I DRAW THE LINE DELETTTTTTT

>> No.9491866

>>9491808
https://etherscan.io/token/0xedd7c94fd7b4971b916d15067bc454b9e1bad980 ?

>> No.9491871

https://etherscan.io/token/Request

>> No.9491872
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>>9491835
I don't know what you want anon the smart contract made a whole bunch of tokens that don't do anything.

That's hard coded ,link can't even fork or hard fork like a normal coin because the contracts can't be changed.

>> No.9491890

>>9491152
Let’s put it this way, are there any coins that are halfway decent contracts?

>> No.9491906

>>9491866
ZIPT

https://etherscan.io/address/0xedd7c94fd7b4971b916d15067bc454b9e1bad980#code

>Generic ERC20 token that can have trading stopped so you can't sell whenever the dev feels like it. Nice.

>> No.9491917

https://etherscan.io/token/0x554c20b7c486beee439277b4540a434566dc4c02

>> No.9491921

Why does the token details matter? Arent ERC20 place holders?

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9491931

Please do ven vs wtc vs amb

>> No.9491956

>>9491152
While I do agree with you. The purpose of ERC20 is just to be a token contract. All the other functionality of a project should be done in a modular way.

And while I dont have TRX and I do agree its a scam, the only purpose of their ERC20 is to serve as a placeholder for their shitty java Blockchain.

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9492007

>>9491917
REQ

https://etherscan.io/address/0x8f8221afbb33998d8584a2b05749ba73c37a938a#code

>Lots of generic bullshit copy pasted like a crowdsale built into the contract, whoop de doo, looks like the only unique feature in there is a burn function where when you send tokens it just burns them off the guy who sent them, or it lets the dev burn tokens off an address they pick.

>> No.9492053

>>9491921
>>9491956

Read the comments on the contracts and you'll immediately understand that the people who published these contracts don't understand even a tiny bit of solidity.

Hell on three of the contracts i just looked at, the comments have "THIS IS AN ERROR / BUG KNOWN ON GITHUB DO NOT USE" written on a comment for a function they copy pasted.

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9492081

>>9491917
HST

https://etherscan.io/address/0x554c20b7c486beee439277b4540a434566dc4c02

>Generic erc20 token where the dev can make more anytime they feel like.

>> No.9492111

>>9492007
>it lets the dev burn tokens off an address they pick.
Oh wow, the in-wallet token burning FUD was true!

>> No.9492185

>>9492111
The req contract is actually horrendous, it's full of literal third world tier typos

>transfer to owner any tokens send by mistake on this contracts

i think they're probably indian

>> No.9492214

>>9492053
I see I get your point. Still there are some very legit projects on ETH with a very high level of programming and Blockchain expertise.
I am interested in your analysis what do you look for in these kind of projects? Surely its not only the ERC20 contract right? For instance ZRX maybe just a typical ERC20, but the whole project is done in the exchange and proxy contracts, as well as in tools to supoort a relayer.

>> No.9492245

>>9491808
Uh oh.
LARPing about chainlink tech won't get you very far here anon, you got greedy.

>> No.9492249

https://etherscan.io/token/0x4CEdA7906a5Ed2179785Cd3A40A69ee8bc99C466


Aion?

>> No.9492251

what can you tell me about eng?

>> No.9492256

https://etherscan.io/token/0xf0ee6b27b759c9893ce4f094b49ad28fd15a23e4

Enigma gaincube couldn't be a scam could it?

>> No.9492260

>>9491152
0x607F4C5BB672230e8672085532f7e901544a7375

Rlc

>> No.9492273

>>9491808
WTF man. Is there any possibility that they deliver? I'm about to sell no kidding.

>> No.9492274

>>9491808
Huh, you're pathetic. You can fool normie coins but not link.

>> No.9492277

>>9492185

Check ambrosus

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9492289

>>9491152

If I learn solidity could I create a cool ERC20 Token?

>> No.9492295
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9492295

>>9491152
>Muh EOS
Being this deluded

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9492297

>>9492249
AION

https://etherscan.io/address/0x4CEdA7906a5Ed2179785Cd3A40A69ee8bc99C466#code

>Kinda cool, looks like the first smart contract that someone's linked in here that's upgradable and actually has development put into it. If the devs deliver might do something neat in the future.

>> No.9492299

>>9491152
https://etherscan.io/token/RLC

>> No.9492332

>>9492256
ENG

https://etherscan.io/address/0xf0ee6b27b759c9893ce4f094b49ad28fd15a23e4#code

>literally the same fucking code as ZIPT that someone linked earlier with the text changed.

>> No.9492343

>>9492297
I cannot express how much confidence this brings me. Thanks anon.

Enigma?

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9492349

>>9491152
Did people really think crypto would be embraced if it couldn't be controlled? All these coin burn and dev wallet control are actually the selling points to the companies that want to work with them. Anything actually decentralized and anon is a danger to the system. They want to give the people a blockchain that they can control. Normies will fall for it hard.

That is the dichotomy of investing, invest in an actual good product or invest in the stupidity of the masses...

>> No.9492350

>>9492299
RLC

https://etherscan.io/address/0x607F4C5BB672230e8672085532f7e901544a7375#code

>absolutely zero development whatsoever went into this, copy paste of babby's first erc20 contract.

>> No.9492375

Erc 20 being a standard it makes sense the token contracts looks the same.

>> No.9492385

Origami Network (ORI)
https://etherscan.io/address/0xd2fa8f92ea72abb35dbd6deca57173d22db2ba49#code

DAOStack (GEN)
https://etherscan.io/address/0x543ff227f64aa17ea132bf9886cab5db55dcaddf#code

Bezant (BZNT)
https://etherscan.io/address/0xe1aee98495365fc179699c1bb3e761fa716bee62#code

Thanks so much anon :)

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9492398

>>9492375

What are you retarded the ERC20 standard is meant to be built upon not copy pasted with two lines changed.

You could make these tokens anon. I'm pointing out you guys are buying pretty websites and nothing else.

>> No.9492416

>>9492398
I'm all in on that cat's ico.

>> No.9492418

>>9492398

Try AMB

https://etherscan.io/address/0x4dc3643dbc642b72c158e7f3d2ff232df61cb6ce#code

>> No.9492431

>>9492385
ORI

https://etherscan.io/address/0xd2fa8f92ea72abb35dbd6deca57173d22db2ba49#code

>Copy pasted contract, little to no development went into this.

>> No.9492442

Been saying this for over a year and the only replies I get are

>muh fud

Any erc20 token should be considered a poojet scamcoin until completely proven otherwise.

If you want to ironically buy then and cash out at the top, then go for it. Don't be a retard and think any erc20 token is ever going to be anything more a shitcoin.

>> No.9492447

>>9492385
GEN

https://etherscan.io/address/0x543ff227f64aa17ea132bf9886cab5db55dcaddf#code

>Literally the same code i've seen here ten times already, no development at all.

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9492459

>>9492385
BZNT

https://etherscan.io/address/0xe1aee98495365fc179699c1bb3e761fa716bee62#code

>LOOK MOM I CHANGED THE NAME OF ALL THE FUNCTIONS NOBODY WILL NOTICE WE PUT NO EFFORT IN.

>> No.9492477

>>9492350
I'm a little slow onthis, can you explain why the copy pasted rlc contract means they are vapor? How does this stop them from making a working product? They have gotten good attention from industry which i am guessing isnt misplaced

>> No.9492481

>>9491152
PolicyPal (PAL)
https://etherscan.io/address/0xfedae5642668f8636a11987ff386bfd215f942ee#code

Last request thanks :D

>> No.9492503

>>9491152
how about the erc223 token? kek

>> No.9492525

>>9491152
>ERC20
Erc20 was added only for governance and tokens have no real usefulness on the blockchain yet (besides burning)
New ercs may add actual utility to tokens tho

>> No.9492533

>>9492418
AMB

https://etherscan.io/address/0x4dc3643dbc642b72c158e7f3d2ff232df61cb6ce#code

>presale hard coded in, where it's literally giving special buyers a fancy buy-in-price that nobody else gets hard coded forever for everyone to see

"uint public constant CHINESE_EXCHANGE_BUYIN = 1087;"

which shit exchange was amb listed on first cuz they got an awful deal.

>> No.9492543

>>9491152
Funny thread. This is literally the point of an erc20 token for anyone who doesn't realize this is a joke.

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>>9492477
means even someone as slow as you could make the exact same product in less than 30 minutes and a bootstrap website generator.

>> No.9492561

>>9492533

Binance. What does that line mean?

At least they're being transparent about the pre-sale buy in price unlike most of these scam tokens

>> No.9492562

>>9492398
Token contracts are strictly vehicle for investment. People invest in garbage every day. Sure contracts can be improved, but they appear to serve useful

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9492564

>>9492543
no it's not, these developers are all REEING on the back end solidity IRC about how they don't know how to fix the token they made.

>> No.9492565

>>9491808
>Mfw this whole thread was just a big larp to fud link and keep newfags away.

Your doing gods work anon.

>> No.9492597

>>9491152
>ETH is a bullshit incredibly overpriced bubble tulip level platform only used for scammy ICO, kitties and Ponzi games with no real usecase
old news
also, this hype market run in December was largely due to shit ERC20 tokens, they're dying so their big daddy ETH will die too
>b-but
finally, ICOs are mostly paid in ETH, these projects are holding onto millions of ETH which they will dump on the market slowly and suppress the price, kek.

>> No.9492598

>>9492481
PAL

https://etherscan.io/address/0xfedae5642668f8636a11987ff386bfd215f942ee#code

>fuck either i'm getting tired of reading these or this is just the same thing as REQ but with neater code.

>> No.9492618

What's the problem with using a generic ERC-20 contract?
The ICO is just a way to raise money, more often than not it has very little to do with what the token devs actually aim to do.
TRX is developping a Java blockchain, why would they need a custom ERC-20 contract for?
Same goes for LINK, the tokens just need to be able to moved around, the tech currently under development is mostly off-chain, all that matters is that the token can be moved around.

>> No.9492621

OP, do you know of any token contract example where I could send the contract ETH and it would disperse it evenly among all token holders?

>> No.9492630

>>9491808
puny LARPer, LINK is still just a ERC223 token, kek

>> No.9492658

>>9492618
And wont some of them stay as part of the ethereum chain? BAT for example will always be a token and doesnt need its own blockchain for the project.

>> No.9492670

>>9492630
>contract ERC677 is ERC20 {
> function transferAndCall(address to, uint value, >bytes data) returns (bool success);

>> No.9492677

>>9492630
> contract ERC677Token is ERC677 {
It's in their damn contract man, kekekekekekekek?

>> No.9492722

>>9492618
OP is retarded

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9492753

>>9492722
defend your scams if you want, if i was going to release a multi million dollar token product i would probably edit the comments to not say <SEE THIS GITHUB PAGE TO FIX ERROR>

>> No.9492767

https://etherscan.io/token/0x419c4db4b9e25d6db2ad9691ccb832c8d9fda05e

DRGN, I want to know that Disney is a scam

>> No.9492788

>>9492767
DRGN

https://etherscan.io/address/0x419c4db4b9e25d6db2ad9691ccb832c8d9fda05e#code

>Zero effort copy paste, you could do this in five minutes or less even if you don't know code.

>> No.9492823

You don’t need to copy paste bro it’s called fork. Bitcoins forked 18k times what does copy pasta say about some handful of erc contracts. If there are no more than 5 solitidy devs ethereums fucked anyway doesn’t matter how many github comments you surf

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9492832

>>9492823

You have no idea what the words you just typed mean.

>> No.9492842

>>9492832
>"uint public constant CHINESE_EXCHANGE_BUYIN = 1087;"
>which shit exchange was amb listed on first cuz they got an awful deal.

So what does this mean?

>> No.9492852

>>9492842
means whatever the first china exchange to list AMB was got some special buy in price.

>> No.9492855

there's too much confusion

>> No.9492875

>>9491152
I know this is unrelated to why you made this thread, but how did you become a solidity developer, what steps can we take besides googling how to write smart contracts to do the same thing? Thank you anon

>> No.9492896

>>9492875
you're kinda fucked anon, there's no developers because it's too hard and you kinda have to be a one-hit wonder and know solidity, c++, javascript, web3 and database management.

Entry bar is stupidly high right now, so most the devs just copy paste because they don't know how to do anything else.

>> No.9492899

>>9491808
Retard.

>> No.9492915

>>9492896
fuck :(

>> No.9492943

>>9491152
but if 100% are copied from another...
then which one was the original?

>> No.9492982

>>9492875
Read the docs. Walk the examples. Look at source code. Solidity is simple compared to most frame works. You can do it. OP keeps his job by discouraging new devs. This market will not become sophisticated without an army of knowledgeable devs building more advanced frameworks.

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9493024

>>9492982
im just jaded from the lack of innovation in the cryptocurrency space entirely.

99.99% of coins, and 99.99% of tokens are literally never going to go anywhere, and investors have no idea.

>> No.9493103

>>9493024

Let's be honest here, most of these shitcoins are basically just lottery tickets you throw 20 dollars into and hope it pumps lol. And it's easy to get people "investing" in them because people don't want to miss out on the "next bitcoin". Yeah, it feels like shit to have missed bitcoin but going all in on some useless shitcoin won't change the fact you missed bitcoin :<. It's a hard pill to swallow for some.

>> No.9493221

>>9491808

>> No.9493242

>>9493024
And god please no more kitty clones.
Your cause is noble. Regardless, In time fools are separated from their money.

>> No.9493284

>>9491152
This is bullish for BlockCAT

>> No.9493293

As a recent (learning) Solidity dev myself who made an upwork account but hasn’t taken any jobs yet because I feel I’m lacking in the js/webshit background areas and also concerned about what might happen if I just copy/paste ERC20 code and one of my clients wants to do something unique with it and I don’t know how and they decide to blame me........this thread gives me hope. & makes me laugh + cry at the same time.

Thanks OP. Gonna review my upwork invitations tomorrow and BTFO the pajeets while charging 3x what they take.

>> No.9493416

>>9493293
And a new erc20 token is born kek.

>> No.9493439

>>9491152
OP is PRL all copy paste?
0x1844b21593262668b7248d0f57a220caaba46ab9

>> No.9493450

>>9491152
I actually want to ask you for the telegram channel, that'd be funny as hell to see all these guys freak out over their overvalued shitcoins.

>> No.9493469

>>9491921
Not all of them, just some of them. Most tokens have no plans whatsoever to ever migrate onto their own blockchain, they might migrate to a different ecosystem than ETH but they will never have their own chain.

>> No.9493488

>>9493416
I actually started looking heavily into ERC223 before I even fully made my upwerk profile, since I figured once I explained to clients the difference (i.e. 223 is pretty much always preferable in all cases) any ICO team would agree and I’d just make that my default.

But turns out it has some slight integration issues and isn’t 100% backwards compatible with being listed on exchanges etc. like the guy who proposed it claims it is. So actually I realized I really am better off just doing the copy paste dance with all the other Indians kek.

>> No.9493490

A competent blockchain is impossible to build on top a shitty, duct-taped source code called Ethereum in its current state.

But we have missed one important thing; marketing and popularity are a very important success factors.

No matter how shitty your product is, it can still thrive if you have those 2 factors. Just take a look at HTML for example. HTML is a shitty technology and there are better alternatives for it but HTML strive because it has popularity and businesses built on top of it. Then programmers start to build hacks like PHP and Javascript to make something out of ugly HTML. Today, web development is still shitty, too complicated and bloated, still it created billion-dollar companies.

I think this is also the fate of the Blockchain technology, a very shitty technology that can still create billions even trillions of dollars. I think the main innovation of the blockchain is not it's decentralized aspect (decentralization can not scale), but how it revolutionizes the stock market, gambling and investment.

>> No.9493573

>>9491152
So whats your opinion on EOS and ADA?

>> No.9493591

https://etherscan.io/address/0x1c83501478f1320977047008496dacbd60bb15ef#code
Digitex DGTX?

>> No.9493657

>>9491152
Fellow solidity dev here

Take a look at this one OP (its Fusion's)... its good...
https://etherscan.io/address/0xd0352a019e9ab9d757776f532377aaebd36fd541#code

>> No.9493670

>>9493490
>how it revolutionizes the stock market
You hit the nail on the head anon

>> No.9493737

>>9491152
https://etherscan.io/token/0x2578e445307fdeb1077894378d8c5c8b8d121b59

Help friend. Is this legit??

>> No.9493837

>>9492896
to be fair, things are so much easier right now, anyone with half a brain can create a shitty token and simple dapp and make a ton of money off of it.

And you can also make tons of money doing consulting and dapp development. I see no problems with that.

>>9492875
most of the tokens are just copy paste from stuff like:
https://github.com/ConsenSys/Tokens/blob/master/contracts/eip20/EIP20.sol

for dapps and stuff, google Truffle, Ganache and Geth. There are billions of tutorials out there.

>> No.9493938

>>9492788

Hey can you check
0xB6eD7644C69416d67B522e20bC294A9a9B405B31

It's ERC 918 so its a pretty big deal

>>9493024

You're wrong anon. 0xBitcoin outshines most of these copy and pasta coins.