/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>9409881
What a fucking weak shit are you ? Used ? Wtf

>>9409881
this is all women.

literally how heterosexual relationships have worked since the dawn of consciousness and before, fag

>>9409881
What’s the problem? If you’re going to marry her this is the way it’s going to be. If not, then just ride the wave until she gets crazy and dump her.

>>9409881
A relationship is all about give and take. She gives you sex and attention, you give her a lot of other shit. If you feel it's unbalanced financially, talk to her about it. You could make a spreadsheet of all the stuff you buy and then split the costs at the end of the week.

Keep in mind you mind face some resentment if you all of a sudden change the financial relationship between the two of you. If she's level headed enough she'll realize fair's fair, but there's probably going to be some backlash if she's been coasting for this long.

Anyways you should c) dump her ass

OP here, i was okay with it. But most of my friends are actually splitting most of the things in their relationships. Thats why i started thinking and then later googleing.

A all the way

>>9409881
Beta bux detected
Enjoy your eventual "happily ever after" which lasts 4 years and then she divorce rapes you after admitting she's been blowing Chad and Brad for 9 years

>>9409949
i heard people are getting into this new cool things called cuckolding it really liberates the housewife maybe you should get in on it like the rest of these hip new trends

>>9409881
seems reasonable
if you want to change something be a man and tell her what you want changed
as long as its reasonable she will love you more for having high standards

>>9409948
I give her sex also. Sex does not count.

>>9409881
If you're planning to marry her you'll be paying for everything anyways.

Lol you’re the breadwinner dude, it’s how it works.

Do you have any goals like her working hard on her degree and saving her money for that, or saving your money for marriage or what? If you’re serious about this and want to marry her, it’s all going to be the same money. If you’re not, why did you have her move in with you and pay for shit?

Honestly, sounds like this might be the first somewhat stable and mature relationship you’ve had, which isn’t a bad thing everyone starts somewhere. But it just depends on goals

>>9409956
i have told her from the start no marrying and no kids. she wants the same

>>9409977
>I give her sex also, it doesn’t count.
You don’t actually believe this anon, do you? If she’s cute she can get sex at the drop of a hat from 100 guys in a 5 mile radius.

>>9409977
>a man allowing a woman to have sex with her is the same offering as a woman allowing a man to have sex with here
fucking hell

>>9409991
Yea this is my first mature relationship. I'm 24. All previous ones have been like 1 to 3 months of dating

>>9409992
>no marrying and no kids. she wants the same
>i pay for everything whilst she gets educated for a CAREER
>b-biz help me please
>doesnt count that she gives me sex, I GIVE HER SEX

>>9410002
>tfw chad and this is actually the case
Huhuhu

>>9410027
this

>>9409881
fucking weak beta...
this is woman.

find a decent looking one and that's it. you pay for everything so you can fuck them daily etc.... man up pussy.

>>9410027
>>b-biz help me please
She pays for her own personal stuff like clothes, mobile bills etc. But all the stuff we do together usually i pay.

>>9410027
Nice rundown. /thread

>>9409977
Holy shit

>>9410029
it's still different, because part of being the chad is being the provider.
if OC wants to "split the bills" on everything despite his superior wealth and masculinity, then he's no longer the chad, and he can no longer use his sexual appeal (if it exists) as some equal offering as hers

>>9409949
you use her and she uses you, being civilized about it is called relationship, and op, yours sounds like its worthwhile. now you have to ask yourself, what does it really mean, to be used? what really is manipulation but a thing of perspective?

you were and are aware of all these things you are paying for, you never had a problem until your honor got challenged by asking yourself if you are being used.
the only one that can determine that is you, but if you dont care about the money, why would you care about the money?

honestly the worst part is how you both lie to yourselves that you dont want children.

sure you dont want them now.
but try waking up at 40 alone and not hearing a child.

>>9409881
Wtf just ask her to pay half. I’m sure she’ll understand.

I GIVE HER SEX

WHY SHOULD I NEED TO GIVE UP ANYTHING AT ALL TO HAVE SOLE ACCESS TO THE WOMB OF THE BEST GENETIC STOCK

I GIVE HER SEX

>>9409881
>she is in school, works like 40 hours a month only minimum wage
She will contribute eventually by going to work I guess. Make an agreement where each person pays a percentage according to their income.

>>9409977
Lmao, you're doomed

>>9409881
Why would you fuck this up. Holy shit guys are greedy and stupid

>>9410054
dude she is lying about not wanting kids
of course she wouldn't want them now while she's studying but as soon as shes done she's gonna dump you for someone who wants kids and isn't a complete fuck up

>>9409881
And lol at all the beta fags in this thread who thinks a man has to pay for sex in a relationship.

>>9409992
Better off with escorts

>>9409881
You'll get your answer when she finishes school

>>9409977
You’re right dude don’t listen to these virgin beta fgts that put sex on a pedestal

>>9409881
the only two worse places to ask this on the whole internet are /pol/ and /b/

>>9409881
Are you happy? If so, stop worrying about it. Does she contribute to the household by cooking and cleaning? Or is she a lazy free loading fuck?

If it's the former she's doing what she can while finishing her studies.

OP here, money is actually no problem. I work in superior field so i am paid pretty well. So it is not actually about money, it is about dedication to relationship.

>>9410213
Yea she cooks and cleans but only if i ask her to do something she mostly always does and never complains but she wont do it without asking.

>>9410002
Nice engrish

>>9410146
this, womyn are actually tricking themselves out of this one these days, it is truly a beautiful time to be alive

>>9410234
I don't know shit. But at the end of the day you're really only paying for food. You'd be paying everything else anyway. Distance yourself and enjoy a live in maid.

If it becomes an issue move on.

>>9410069
I agree if your wife/gf stays at home to cook, clean, take care of children etc. But if she’s not doing more work than you at home AND has a career it makes no sense to pay everything.

>>9409881
Jfc, what are you doing. Stop being a basedboi.

>>9409881
I'd watch out for school. A lot of women school and get good jobs and dump their husbands. You need to get her pregnant.

>>9409881
The fuck? It sounds like she's not really doing anything wrong, YOU started paying for shit in the first place. And she works for money as well?

The fuck is wrong with you OP, you're legitimately a piece of shit for even asking this question when your GF seems perfectly fine. You must have some serious insecurities or personality issues to be this much of a faggot.

>>9410170
>>9410146
you're misunderstanding the point.
it's not about putting sex on a pedestal. it's not about "paying for sex". it's about how putting yourself in the position of a provider and bringer of security and safety is the to the male as being a giver of sex, homeliness, comfort and support is to the female.
OP has an idea, evident in every one of his posts, that relationship gender norms are outdated and that there should be precisely equal expectations of action from both side. by saying "i give her sex too!!!" he may as well fucking say "so what? she should pay half. i provide a loving and stable home when she goes out and improves her life! isn't that enough?"
it's confusion

>>9410260
if she's already told him with certainty that they're never getting married or having kids because she wants to work on her life as an independent strong womyn then he should just get out of there
even if he's fine with that, it's not bothering me that he's asking her to pay more. it's the insistence on half. half everything. half payments, it's all equal - exactly half. she gives me sex? well i give her sex, so it's equal. she submits to me? well i'll be submissive to her commands half the time, for equality

>>9409881

You had to talk with her before moving in..

Anyways, just make an Excel with all the costs you have each month and ask her how much she could pay. This is also a good relation test, if she really loves you she should at least pay as much as she can.

In your case I would think it's fair that she pays at least.
- 50% utilities
- 50% food

When she got a job after college she could pay also 50% of the rent.

If she tells you she can't afford to pay you anything then she is leeching on you.

>>9410322
In my country not many people get married. People just live together and then when relationship is over move on. We decided that if we have been together for atleast 6-8 years and still happy then we might consider kids. no before

>>9409881
If you both don't want to end your lives in a care home being urinated on by other inmates who come in overnight because locked doors are an 'Elf and Safety hazard, y'all need to direct where all y'all money is going. Nothing wrong spending your shit on her but do consider the longer term

>>9410377
>people just live together and then when relationship is over move on
where are you from? Germany? Sweden?

>>9409881
She’s submissive??
Sounds like you’re the submissive cuck to me

>Cooks for me
>sex whenever and whatever (anal, blowjobs under the desk while i play videogames etc)
>pays for everthing feels actually guilty when not paying
>kind, understanding and supportiv
>good conversations
>loves everything i do

Im gettiing a bad feeling because its too perfect
What could it be? Together for 6 months

>>9410432
are you gay?

>>9409881
uh everything seems normal, wtf take this retarded shit to /soc/

>>9410432
lel how/where do you find a girl like that?

>>9410377
sounds pretty gay

>>9410432
Sounds like a sugar mommy

>>9409992
>no marrying and no kids
If you have no kids she'll subconsciously see you as a failure anyway, kek

Somewhat, she should be cooking for you and do most cleaning as you pay expenses while it sounds like that's a split task.

>>9410511
>you
Why does she see me has failure then?

>>9409881

Women are expensive. Yours is cheap. You would pay utilities even if you were on your own. You basically get sex for free so stop bitching.

>>9409881
This fucking thread full of betas, it's 2018 motherfuckers, time to start getting women to pay for YOU - they want equality, so make them pay. On all the first dates I've been on recently I've got her to pay, & most of them like doing it. If you meet a girl who's entitled, & wants you to pay, kick her to the curb. Op, you've only got 2 options. Either stay with her & accept this will always be like they are. Or break up, find another bitch & start over with her paying from the start.

>>9410604
>posts new-age hyper-egalitarian opinion
>next to gif of mixed raced mutt girl
pottery.

>>9410524
This. My gf doesnt do all the cleaning, cooking etc. (less than 50% actually) and I used pay almost everything: rent, food, utilities etc. I just told her straight up that I think it’s unfair and she agreed. If my gf did all the cooking, cleaning etc. I would be fine with paying more though.

>>9410604

You wouldn't want a woman who believes in the equality of genders in the first place.

>>9409881

Women can´t live with them can´t live without them.

It seems you are doing alright for yourself anon. Tbh she sounds like a cool chick and if you have the money why care. I know i should not say this on a business board, but this shit aint all black and white it aint all about the money.

OP here. Without her i used to go out partying every weekend, spend all that money on alchohol, random chicks etc. Spent more on partying than on this girl.

>>9410693

>>9410693

> spending money on random chicks

Don't be a beta, anon. Let random chicks pay for their own drinks.

>>9410693
If you pay for everything you should at least expect her to do most/all of the cleaning, cooking etc.

>>9409881
A.

don't fuck this up you faggot

>>9410604
faggot piece of retard shit enjoy those first dates

>>9409881
put it in her butt op

>>9409881
This is literally all women, honestly you're getting a good deal.

You have a sexy, smart interesting women who gives you as much sex as you want, still occasionally buys you shit and all she wants is a place to stay.

Also if in the long run you plan to wife her up this is pretty much how things should work, you pay for expenses so she can maximize the payoff on her education and will return it by paying for bills and putting money towards retirement in the future.

Sound like you need to sit down and talk with your gf about what you're long term plan is, she's not doing anything wrong desu.

>>9410724
ok virgin

Op it depends on what your future is with her?

Have you guys talked about the future?

If you don't plan on spending the rest of your life with her, or vice versa then it might be acceptable to ask for financial contributions. Although this may create conflict.

If you plan on spending the rest of your life with her, then phrase the suggestion as wanting to put more money into savings. If you two are together I'm not sure why you think it's a you vs her situation when it comes to finances.

It really boils down to if you are still both indepent individuals, or a couple in terms of your relationship.

>Moving in with each other before serious commitment

Lmao fucking kids these days.

>>9410075
Weak. You need children to find happiness or comfort? Get out of your house more and quit jerking off all day, loser.

>>9409881
are you retarded lol

you're getting pussy and a wonderful woman to cook ya shit

as long as shes not fucking other guys or being a thot you've got yourself a sweet deal

dont fuck this up OP


put some fucking white babies in that belly of hers

>>9410945
She’s not staying at home cooking, cleaning etc. though. She actually has a job.

>>9410453
I enjoy the company of man more like every sane person
Just not sexual
>>9410486
The internet
>>9410508
I earn enough money actually so idk
Its still nice though

>>9411005
still

he's getting pussy and he said that she cooks when shes home

he basically has free access to pussy when he wants

i wouldnt fuck it up for the world

>>9411047
Getting pussy is easy. Girls want as much of sex as guys do. And when you have had sex 1 time with a girl you can have it easier all the other times, since this is accepted now. Only negative side is girls getting attached and wanting relationship and shit.

>>9410834

> never pay for drinks
> always gets laid
> virgin

Something's wrong with your sense of logic there.

>>9410646
>>9410632
>>9410751
Are you cucks fucking retarded? Ops girl has a job meaning she's earning money, and yet you think it's better for op to pay for everything and for her to keep all her money? What fucking timeline are you living in? Oh right sorry I get it, you're too ugly & boring to have a girl be into you for any other reason than you pay for her life.

>>9411047
And she has free access to dick. Is she doing OP a favor by having sex with him? If so, found the problem.

>>9411047
That’s most likely because you haven’t been in a lot of relationships (no offense). Most girls want sex just as much as guys do. The main difference is that girls (usually) don’t want to have sex with guys they aren’t emotionally attracted to. In the relationships I’ve been in the girls wanted sex just as much as I did.

>>9411195
>>9411216
These guys get it.

>>9409881
You mean, you pay your way into marriage? What could go wrong?.. :')

She pays her way bro. When she has kids it's different, but once they are at school she works again.

>>9411195

Kissless virgin detected.

>>9409881
Don't take relationship advice from other people, especially on 4chan, for fuck sake.

You let her move in, make your own decision and be a man.

Get all the sex you want. they normally hold out for more than just groceries.

>>9409881

Welcome to life anon. Females trade sex for your ability to take care of them.

>>9411459
That’s what the hookers you pay do, that’s not how being in a relationship works.

Dump anon

It'll only get worse...shes using you

Enjoy the pump now but rest assured the dump must come

>Depreciating assets

I need you to look at her like she's property and reevaluate everything you told us. Where do you want things to be 20 years from now?

>>9411519
Lol K

>>9410662
>It ain't all about money

Lol k

>>9409881
Split all expenses proportionally to income.

>>9410834
lol. if you chad girls will get a drink for you, just so they can claim your time. sure i get her a drink every once in a while, but only after chilling for 1h+ and when its evident she gonna fuc my brains out.

>>9411875

This guy fucks.