/biz/ - Business & Finance

Because you can make a lot of money speculating in the futures market?

Why the fuck does anybody trade shit like internet fun money?

They operate in cycles which make easy for profit from

>>9360324
you listed the hardest things to trade posibble

>>9360341
You can make a lot of money selling dirt if you're determined - what's the probability you actually make money trading this shit? This is the sort of shit Nigerians in their basement think they'll bank big on

>>9360344
are you really equating crypto/stocks with fucking corn

>>9360356
that's_the_point.rar

>>9360347
do they? seems like you gotta be pretty educated to learn the cycles and all that ish and even then, prolly still luck out

>>9360324
guaranteed profit with low volatility? although copper and especially oil are subject to some volatility depending on the state of the industries

>>9360365
>are you really equating crypto/stocks with fucking corn
yes

>>9360365
>You can make a lot of money selling dirt if you're determined - what's the probability you actually make money trading this shit?
If you to ask, then no, these markets are not for you. Take a lot of research and domain knowledge.

>>9360388
These markets aren't for fuckin anyone, lmao, it's a stupid trade

next thing I know you're gonna tell me gold is gonna skyrocket and to get in nao

>>9360370
Guaranteed profit? jesus fuck, what happened to /biz/ lmfao - okay, maybe it is, are you trading it? show some ss or pics, I can't legitimately believe anyone here trades fuckin corn and copper

>>9360428
>These markets aren't for fuckin anyone, lmao, it's a stupid trade
If this is how you have to cope with your inability to trade them, sure.

>>9360378
it's called bitcorn after all

>>9360436
You keep talking like you work for BlackRock, lmao, stop being a pompous fuck and show something - it's a stupid market for stupid people and if you're legitimately arguing without any proof contrary to show you know better, then you're retarded.

"inability" I don't buy them so it's hard to levy that at me.

>>9360324
Are you fucking dumb? Do you understand why people trade futures contracts on commodities? It allows speculators to make money and it allows suppliers to hedge their future production.
Farmers can sell their production a year ahead of time to protect their revenues.

>>9360477
Keep coping. It's entertaining to me.

>>9360324
>basedbeans
beancash are based or did you mean so᠌ybeans?

>>9360491
>he's apathetic and calm
>he must be a whale who fucks models every weekend

lol, unparalleled levels of faggotry - what suburb do you live in?

>>9360324
Basedbeans trade well because they're based. I hope this is comprehensible to you.

>>9360505
zoybeans - shit converts to based for me, dunno how you got it to go through

>>9360481
I'm talking about regular, everyday traders you dense, dumb fuck

>>9360506
You keep getting angrier and angrier with every post. Cope.

>>9360542
Cope.

>>9360505
>so᠌ybeans
try using it with only ascii characters and it will switch so᠌ybeans to basedbeans

>>9360549
>these markets are stupid because I'm unable to profit off them!
literally the definition of cope

>>9360530
>I'm talking about regular, everyday traders you dense, dumb fuck
because you can make a profit you dumb fuck

>>9360559
Pretty sure you can't be "unable to" do something when you've never even attempted to do it and where there aren't any barriers to you being able to.

I'm using basic rationality that these markets don't function in a similar manner to much larger markets including forex, stocks, even penny stocks, and crypto

>>9360584
really nao? how about those pics of all the profit you've been making off them? faggot

>>9360600
>i've never attempted to do it because i'm stupid and would lose money
At least you are honest with yourself.

>>9360365
Lot of dirt sellers around here, must be profitable! I think the important thing is to know your Market.

>>9360559
Now please, stop deflecting and show me proof of the big banks you've been raking in with these trades.

Or you can continue to just respond with the snarkiness of a redditor

>>9360614
Nice proof of your profit, faggot, lawl

>>9360620
>spoonfeed me a method to profit on futures pls or i'll get very mad on 4chan!!!
Cope

>>9360648
>never actually said show me a method
>never asked for advice
>"hurr, if i just reframe what he says as something completely different, it'll distract from the fact i still haven't posted a single thing to prove i'm making money here"

Nice proof of your profit, faggot, lawl

>>9360678
I don't have to prove anything to you.

>>9360722
lol, who would've guessed

>>9360767
Keep coping, though, like I said, it's funny to me how entitled you are

>>9360324
I want to start by making clear I'm not doing it, but I don't think it's too strange. Some people teach martial arts, some people write books, some people make clothes and some people trade different things. And there are varying degrees of success and consistency in the people doing these activities, but I don't think luck plays a very important role in it, or at least it's not as important as decisions based on levels of exposure to luck.

Automated trading is distorting the markets.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-commodities-funds-computers/data-overload-commodity-hedge-funds-close-as-computers-dominate-idUSKBN1FW0E4

>>9360787
then the feeling's mutual because nothing you've said makes much basic rational sense - you keep thinking that facts become unnecessary by maintaining some calm demeanor - fact of the matter is you're emotionally fervent over defending these markets and how easy it is to make profit on them yet you're unable to post even a sliver of proof of you're making money with them, so gg, bucko

>>9360838
>he's still throwing a tantrum thinking he's entitled to see proof of anything
Keep coping.

>>9360600
>I'm using basic rationality that these markets don't function in a similar manner to much larger markets including forex, stock

Uhh... Weather plays the function of geopolitics in how it affects agricultural commodities. Why are you having trouble with this notion?

Corn and bean prices are affected by a multitude of factors that knowledgeable players can use to help them make educated decisions.

>>9360678
You didn't ask if we made a profit trading, you asked why anyone trades these. It has been explained to you.

>>9360928
lmao - the level of mental gymnastics to defend every facet connected to trading is fucking insane

"l ol annon, ur dum - i trde cornn all the time, jelly?"

>>9360928
Don't bother, he's just seething mad. I bet he just got margin called trying to trade basedbean futures or something when he knows nothing about the market structure and has no quantitative skills to compensate. Probably tried to draw meme lines on the chart.

>>9360996
"ignre hmlo l, he zjealus off us bg tradrz, hee ill nevr b rich! x) more zoybns for us, kope x)"

>>9360977
SEETHING

>>9361029
SEETHING

>>9361031
"hha u md br? x)"

>>9361050
SEETHING

>>9361061
"setng x)"

>>9361070
SEETHING

>>9361090
"stg x)"

>>9361101
SEETHING

>>9361113
""

>>9361119
SEETHING

>DAE think the CME serves no point, we should go down to Chicago and tell them they serve no purpose.

>>9361144
yeah op is clearly a brainlet who thinks he's a genius, his posts are pretty entertaining.

>>9360324
>BASEDBEANS
>BASEDTRADERS

>>9360505
Oh, I see how you did it.
so᠌ybeans.
so᠌yboy
tb᠌h
sm᠌h
fa᠌m

>>9360524
medium par

>>9360324
>implying anybody can trade metals directly
Gotta have 250k pounds to trade on the Londons metal exchange

>>9360365
commodities are actually fucking used by society for productive purposes and the market for them is pretty much exclusively dictated by the laws of supply and demand. Forecasting and understanding these underlying factors can make you a lot of money, especially trading futures which inherently are leveraged products.

Go watch the movie The Pit to learn more about alpha commodity traders

>>9362505

You're a fucking idiot faggot. Amrbsosus is the next bitcoin buy it now.

>>9360600
>can't reach apple branch
>"I hate apples!"

>>9362754
lmao crypto currencies if you havn't noticed are traded by private citizens mostly. the truly wealthy and powerful do not gamble like us. they buy commodities and stocks. china and russia are buying gold at a faster rate than they ever have. billionaires are investing in commodities. poor people like us trade bitcoin and pray for a million, but lets be serious, your bitcoin will never reach warren buffet level wealth. in fact, warren buffet talks shit about crypto all the time, and he's the most brilliant investor possibly in all history. he's not old and outdated, because he was able to capitalize on tech stocks, so why does he think crypto is shit? 21k to 6k now 9k is why, buffet would never be so stupid as to invest in crypto. if you actually do some research you can find articles about people working with commodities:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-01/north-korea-is-a-bright-spot-for-billionaire-who-forecasts-crash

we could say the guy in above article knows a little more than the average or even best crypto investor. you see, nobody who is seriously into investing as a career buys bitcoin, it's just for fun. the world leaders and unfathomably rich people trade commodities you think are so shit, and to be honest, your intelligence will never come close to theirs, and that's why you can't understand or trade commodities. it's ok, stick to gambling.

>>9362505
Commodities futures markets are very important for that producers for agriculture for example can hedge their sales and crops. For example wheat futures market have been around over 300 years

>>9360324
Where can I buy basedbeans?

>>9363762

Faggot mods are censoring söý.

>>9360324
You stupid fucking bitch. I can't believe how fucking dumb you are.