/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>929907
How is Physics higher than Computer Science+?
A bachelor degree gets you no where in the actual field of Physics, except for a few good looks at you on resumes for general jobs. But even then, after grad school you're a struggling to find a solid gig. Going from post doc to post doc.

>>929919
>How is Physics higher than Computer Science+?
This image has been floating around the internet since 2000-2005 with no changes to it. Most of the info on here isn't relevant anymore.

How Law is above IT I have no idea.

Try this on for size.

>>929919
>>929949

>>929951
yet another engineering circlejerk meme

omg

can we rename /biz/ to /col/

>>929951
How is Economics and Accounting higher than Law and Cyber Security?

>>929907
>>929951

Why is astronomy so high?

how can I into money with mathematics when I don't want to work in finance

>>929951
Film arts should be put in suicide tier, because at least with a liberal art degree you can get a job as a teacher.

Foreign languages: I thought about being a traveling spanish teacher for a while, but seeing the whole syrian crisis happening in europe and other parts of the world falling apart as well I eluded from that option. Putting it in suicide is justified only for the current events happening right now.

>>930067
ha I did not mean to leave that pic in my post

>>930036
I think Astronomy is supposed to be Aerospace Engineering.

>>930024
Law is god awful, and cyber security is the new "general IT". It's a buzzword that doesn't really mean anything. If you really want to get into cybersecurity, do your bachelors in CS and your Masters in Information Assurance.

>>929951
It's better but I think Wildlife/Fisheries/Forestry/Ecology are niche degree programs for oversaturated markets. There are anywhere between 25-150 forestry jobs open in the US at any given time, but a real forester (not just a technician or a forest firefighter) can get well over six figures. It's one of those things where it's a pain in the ass to get a job because they want you to have a PhD or be ex-military, usually both, but once you're in, you're set.

I wouldn't put Comp Eng up that high, it belongs closer to Comp Sci.

I think Elementary Education belongs in suicide tier, and foreign languages should be higher provided they're actually useful languages.

Military doesn't really belong on this chart, because it's really great for a lot of people and really awful for others. Most of the people I've spoken to who got a lot out of the military were people who got in as officers after receiving a STEM degree.

Does anyone here know what engineering is like in the middle east?

Mudslime here living in the great west. I can study almost whatever I want. Big part of my relatives are wealthy af, most of them are engineers of some sort. Cousin of mine is pulling money that wouldn't be possible in the west at the age of like 28, he's a construction engineer. What the fuck? Is there something that I'm missing? Is there something that's stopping me from picking an engineering/science related degree use my connections over there to land a job, work my literal ass of for a some years and then head back home with some decent capital and just ride it out?

Some disadvantages would be that my connections would stop developing and maybe deteriorate depending for how long I'm gone. I also probably wouldn't be enjoying the same things for a while but i guess I could live with that for a while.

>>930045

please respond

>>929951
there isn't a single career choice or profession that is appealing to me on this list, except for military, which isn't really an option because >lolmedical.

should i just kill myself tbh fams

>>930024

That's easy, CPAs basically print money. All my accounting friends are well off

Law = almost guaranteed unemployment. Cyber security is a joke unless youre very well credentialed

hey guys since all jobs are equally fucking shit in every single way imaginable, what should i work towards if my goals are:

~40-55k/year, small home (~<750 sq ft), but only working 20-30 hours a week

>>930118
another disadvantage is you'd have to actually live in the literal shithole of the world

>>929951

why is programming in god-tier?

What about Econometrics?

>>930531


this

>doing chemical engineering
>dislike it, friends above me say it gets obscenely hard and it's a prestige thing to pass

Fuck that noise, should I just change to physics? I liked physics more, but I don't know much about employment opportunities.

>>930118
Let me give you my 2 cents

I'm not living anywhere near the Middle East, but as someone from the third world (South America) and studying in 'Murica, you need to understand the different market structures. In the developed world, everything is set in stone, margins are razor thin, and barriers to entry in most every traditional market or industry are insurmountable to anyone without deep pools of capital to draw from at their pleasure, and extensive experience. But in the third world, anyone with a minimum of common sense, organizational skill, a couple contacts, and a little bit of seed money can stand to make a fortune.

But these people often have trouble finding good knowledge workers, as well as competent administrators. That's where you come in as an engineer or really any other higher-ed diploma. Get in on a confidence position with someone who is competent, and you stand to make an absurd amount of money. There are downsides though, generally related to living in what most Americans would call shitholes (in my opinion, not that different from small American towns in terms of cultural, entertainment, and shopping offers, the only difference being a higher crime rate, but hey, most Americans tend to have really skewed and misniformed perceptions of any country that isn't their own, and even of their own sometimes), and the risk of hitching a ride on a sinking ship.

But if you want to make serious bank, and don't have any market disrupting ideas and wide contact nets, you pretty much need to work in the developing world. It's where executives for big, traditional companies cut their teeth, and it's where entrepreneurs stand a chance against the well-ingrained players.

>>929907
dude, get a degree in something that brings you cash in the pocket, and do history as your hobby

you can double major in history/stem so you get the cash and the knowledge.
if you become famous with your books you can just quit your job.

>>929907
DOUBLE MAJOR
in Mathematics and Computer Science at the Uni Heidelberg (GER).

What do you think?

>>930828
Most history books written by those without degrees are never taken seriously by the community, at least not without a bibliography.
Dude could always go for the pop history crowd, but then he'd be stuck writing about WWII or race politics.

>>930828
>history as your hobby

I'm afraid the age of the gentleman scholar is over. You need at least a doctorate to be taken seriously in any academic community, and if there's something that academics hate more than anything is someone doing their work, for free, on their spare time.

I am attending an Business and Finance careers fair tomorrow. What should I do?

Would recruiters be offended if I ask some semi-personal questions (what football team they like, where they studied etc.)?

How can I make myself a more attractive applicant if I want to be a paralegal? I studied Linguistics hoping to work in Forensic Linguistics but I can't find a foothold into this field.

pls no bully

>>930968
Be friendly, ask lots of questions about their work. If you feel like the conversation is evolving beyond just "I was sent here by my boss who I'm not too fond of to market my company," don't be afraid to ask more personal questions, and make sure to snag the contact info or sign up to whatever newsletter they might have/offer.

>>930992
What do I ask when I want to get their business card or e-mail? When is the right time to do it? I have never been to a network session or a careers fair before, so this is my first time.

I would do some research about what companies are attending the fair, but they haven't released anything. The only relevant information about any company is that the CEO of a multibillion company is going to attend.

>>929951
>Psychology
Don't psychs make heaps of money?

>>930997
"Could we keep in touch" generally works well. People who work and want to go somewhere in life generally hand out business cards very freely, and you'll be in an environment where they'll be even more primed to hand them out. It's literally just waiting for you.

Don't let the fact that you don't know much about the companies going there stop you. If anything, use that as a way to disarm the recruiter when you talk to them (approach your ignorance in a joking manner), and be genuinely curious. They appreciate both the honesty and the eagerness.

Above all, be sociable, nice, and don't hang around quietly nodding your head. If you don't fit in, don't stick there like a sore thumb for too long, just go somewhere else, talk to someone else, do whatever.

>>931028
>"Could we keep in touch" generally works well. People who work and want to go somewhere in life generally hand out business cards very freely, and you'll be in an environment where they'll be even more primed to hand them out. It's literally just waiting for you.
Why would employees in their 40s want to hand out and network with students? I don't understand I can provide for them, other than expanding their networks.

Thanks for the tips! They have been very useful

>>931034
>Why would employees in their 40s want to hand out and network with students?

I'm assuming you go to a good university. Because that would be the reason, they'd be willing to meet and try to recruit students.

Plus, it's not as if people aren't interested in meeting and working with randoms based on good feelings. I once got a job offer from the marketing head of a chemical engineering firm to sell insulation services to the Chinese over the course of one very long conversation in an international flight. These things happen.

>>930821
I don't mind living in my homeland for a couple of years. I'm completely fine with that. Thanks for the great input you described it really well. So it's basically a possibility then?

>>931042
Yes, I do go to a target school.

>These things happen.
I have never heard those stores where these things happen, where people get random offers from people they just met.

>>931089
my cousin got his entire college paid for him by some random guy he talked to for 15 minutes.
These things do happen, they're just extremely rare.

>>930829

hey I'm trying to go there for my Masters next year. Not sure if I should go into Scientifing Computing or do a math master with a strong SC slant though.

Is it true you can make a decent wage by freelancing if you know how to program?

What languages and other stuff would I need to know in order to be able to work on contracts from home

I'm marketing exec at £19k a year. (asking for raise to 21k tomorrow)

I want to retrain in some cushty office job that pays more money. Thinking programming as i have some experience already or getting economics degree and trying to get banking job after i graduate for ~50k starting

any tips from those in either fields?

Logistics? Yay/Nay?

My company would pay for it. The alternative is business. Everyone and their mother has a business degree though.