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>>9281643

not a meme. I have traveled a lot and they remain some of my best memories in my life. It refreshes you, gives you perspective, and traveling a gf or wife makes it that much better. But everyone is different, so you may not feel the same once you have done it.

>>9281643

It's somewhat a meme in that you're gonna find yourself I think.

But it's fun, I recommend doing it solo and then with a good group of friends.

It's a great life experience, especially if you throw in some adventuring in some non-tourist areas.

>>9281658
agree. dont you think the op may be restricting himself by taking the gf seeing as he will meet loads of attractive foreign hotties who will want to get balled by him?

People that hate traveling would hate it whether it’s a meme or not.

>>9281658
travelling with friends>travelling with gf>travelling with wife

I only travel with my wife because i can't travel and not take her.

I've great memories of traveling, it's more of a fun experience than LE DEEP PROFOUND CHANGE normies have you believe

Bottom line is if you're a terminal autist you're gonna be miserable anywhere

It really depends. Do you know how to travel? If you're the type of guy to just throw money at the problem traveling is a bit of a meme IMO - you'll get turist raped everywhere you go and being a smart guy you'll not like it. Wanna eat out? Here's a shitty dish for $20. Wanna enter this museum? Here's a ticket for $40. Want to move around the city? Rent a shity car for .. well you get the idea. Also I hate using planes, so there's that. I am only happe when I'm self sufficient, without transport I don't feel that way anywhere, so yeah getting a van or an adventure bike is my idea of travel that is not a meme.

>>9281715
where is travelling alone on this scale?

>>9281658
>>9281682
This.

>>9281747

3rd

>>9281747
Depends on how easy is for you to get girls.
After friends if you can pick up chicks with ease, after gf if you can't.

Wife is always the last, no exceptions

>born in the age of easy accessibility to far away remote lands and exotic cultures and women
>it's a meme
If you had to post this thread just stay in your basement ya loser

>>9281715
>Having a wife

>>9281643

the whole meme is about, being in control, since you do the traveling you control the environment.

Of course you choose the best environment.

So now everything is going for you.

Alright, thanks so far for your insights guys.

>>9281737
Im exactly like that too. I hate all these, lets say, "normie vacations" were you (for example) just "chill" on a crowded beach and get sunburned.
For our first trip we planned to go to iceland, rent a car there and explore the nature

meme
travelling in the age of instant informations is a waste of funds and purely hedonistic bullshit

>>9281863
She was a qt 20 years ago and I could've never foreseen she would become the hag she is today, I mean her mother was quite a milf back in the day.

>>9281873

also another prong is, you are the reason that is making you happy, therefore you are the man

the normies just cannot compute, so they really enjoy the dope

>>9281747
Better than all of them, unless you have really amazing friends

>>9281643
>le travel and waste you money meme
>look at me im some wholesome
>post endless hedonistic and narcissistic photos of yourself showing how much of a cool and authentic person you are on facebook to one up everyone else.

Yeah no.

>>9281928
wont do that shit.

i have SA and scared to travel alone. i also feel like i can't afford it.

i see everyone saying that they travel on like $600 or some bs. makes me mad because even after budgeting my vacation would be $3k.

i can easily spend $5k/month doing nothing (i'm single, live alone) so i can imagine how that could easily be 10 on the vacation.

how is it better than watching 4k documentary on nice big tv about given country in comfort of your home

>>9281643
Traveling to tourist trap cities to spend money on food and booze is retarded. Being a fat ass foodie is the most cucked hobbies to have. In NYC you will spend $200+ per day at a minimum, shit a hotel and cab ride put you over the limit.

Last year I did went t Gates of Artic National Park to see the Caribou migration. I pushed my self to my limits and it was so rewarding. Beautiful area and total relaxation. Getting there wasn’t cheap but sure beats any touristy beach town. Use your vacation time to travel to remote areas and get away from society.

>>9281928
fuck off m8, get out of your basement and go somewhere. You don't have to interact but I bet you're autistic anyways
>flew to russia, took the train to mongolia and china
>chilled on thailand
was fun as fuck

>>9281989
how did you find your way there without reading/speaking russian? that kind of stuff scares me

>>9282017
when you do shit like this it isnt that fucking hard At least a few people speak english everywhere you know what I mean

>>9281643
>In other words, books like The Hobbit are not necessarily supposed to inspire trips to far-flung lands, but rather to restore the freshness of familiar surroundings right in front of our faces. Once you discover this doorway to realms beyond, you’re able to see the world through a mythological lens, and find that there are hidden dimensions even within the walls of one’s hobbit hole. Once you’ve been there and back again, your perspective is forever changed; you begin to see things as they really are. Everything from the view outside your apartment to your commute to work can become more meaningful, even magical.
>That Tolkien could step through this threshold whenever he desired, his otherwise bourgeoisie lifestyle notwithstanding, is what set him apart from other “hobbits.” And it is what accounts for his obliviousness to the allure of physical travel. As one of his biographers put it, “his imagination did not need to be stimulated by unfamiliar landscapes and cultures”; that he could simply sit down at his desk and immediately begin exploring the terrain of Middle-earth explains why he “did not altogether care very much where he was.” For Tolkien, his domestic routine, no matter how familiar, remained perennially fresh.
>Tolkien’s immersion in his imagination did not represent an escape from reality, but a reacquaintance with it. He saw clearer than most the way in which even the most ordinary life is filed with epic quests, wrenching conflicts, and the heroic choice between courage and compassion, and greed and selfishness. So that despite the “narrow” scope of his life, one cannot help feeling it was far more expansive than those who fill their Instagram profiles with photos of their globe-trotting travels.
>What Tolkien understood is that when it comes to life’s most important journeys — quests of spirituality, self-discovery, and self-mastery — location is irrelevant.

Yes

>>9282267
Yes = travel is a meme unless it’s done for the right reason

>>9282267
>>9282280

yeah, somewhat right, but tolkien was a outstanding person and in my opinion almost no one has such a vast imagination than him

>>9281989
desu use your hands and a guidebook but a lot of ruskies in moscow were not very friendly. once you travel east (siberia) they are a lot more friendlier. younger russians like western culture and know a bit of english. they can be quite curious and ask you a ton of shit

>>9282325
>>9282017

Sperging from one hostel to another, with a whole bunch of degenerate `travelers` is good for maybe a week or two, depending on how old you are and how much pussy you are getting.
But my preferred method is to rent an apartment for two weeks or longer in a city and chill. I like art and architecture and new foods though. I find different cultures and their history fascinating.
If your idea of a holiday is to get shit faced every night and piss off the locals, you may as well do it in your hometown.
I now have friends and contacts in a handful of countries, and that completely changes how you can appreciate a place.

>>9281895
>the hag she is today
> her mother was quite a milf
Maybe you did this to her,

>>9282267
This anon is correct. You might be interested in the essays of Schopenhauer, where he examines this very phenomenon.

>The world in which a man lives shapes itself chiefly by the way in which he looks at it, and so it proves different to different men; to one it is barren, dull, and superficial; to another rich, interesting, and full of meaning. On hearing of the interesting events which have happened in the course of a man's experience, many people will wish that similar things had happened in their lives too, completely forgetting that they should be envious rather of the mental aptitude which lent those events the significance they possess when he describes them; to a man of genius they were interesting adventures; but to the dull perceptions of an ordinary individual they would have been stale, everyday occurrences. This is in the highest degree the case with many of Goethe's and Byron's poems, which are obviously founded upon actual facts; where it is open to a foolish reader to envy the poet because so many delightful things happened to him, instead of envying that mighty power of phantasy which was capable of turning a fairly common experience into something so great and beautiful.
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TLDR: Traveling is amazing, but what you will get out of it depends on your perceptiveness and degree of curiosity.

Happiness is a meme.
Feelings are a meme.

You're just a biological machine that needs to be fed in various ways. Feed them all, you'll be "happy", meaning your brain will release the chemicals that it does once you feed it with what it wants.

You can always get another women, but you cannot get another once in a life time opportunity market like this for who knows how long. 10 years, 40 years? Buy BTC/LTC/ETH now. If she has any IQ she would support you instead of being the selfish cunt she is.

People somewhere else are going to suck as much as they do living next door to you.

>>9281886
You can do ring road, drive around the entire country. Lots to see from what my friend told me.

I've been to Japan twice and it's great. I'd also recommend it as a non normie vacation

>>9281886
Pro tip: if there is a weather warning in Iceland DONT drive. There might not be snow or rain but the wind alone can blow you off their narrow roads.

>>9282725
>Pro tip: if there is a weather warning in Iceland DONT drive. There might not be snow or rain but the wind alone can blow you off their narrow roads.

Not in the city, obv but on the ring road

>>9282641

Japan puts every other country to shame. everyone should visit at least once to see what its like when a country retains its cultures, has incredible food, and people are full of respect... enough respect to keep the most major metropolitan cities amazingly clean.

People who have to ask others how to find happiness, will never find it

It's not a meme, however you don't need to travel far and spend thousands to discover new interesting shit.

>>9282420
>But my preferred method is to rent an apartment for two weeks or longer in a city and chill. I like art and architecture and new foods though. I find different cultures and their history fascinating.
That is a good advice.

>>9281737
That's how I feel about travelling. That's why I think travelling is only good if you have a nice income or you made it.

>>9281807
What's the difference between wife and gf? What if the wife is more interesting than the gf? The majority of women are all shit and boring so I can't see the difference at all, it should be assessed on an individual basis and not marital status

waste of money, just use google maps or look at some youtube videos.

>free
>not a waste of money
>can use saved money to invest and make more money

>>9283417
you sound like a fucking jew

Lions travel alone, tigers with their mistresses, monkeys with their family/girlfriends.

>>9281914
>Having friends in 2018

Tge travel I enjoy is taking my adventure bike with camping and survival stuff and just camping everywhere I want, visit natural places and stuff.

It's cheap and it makes you feel happy.

Don't spend your money on tourist trap cities

>>9281815
man can you imagine when that become true for galaxies
>humans can live for thousands of years
>you choose a galaxy to vacation on for 100 years
>spend a month on a planet and hop around

Fuck now i'm sad ill probably die before this happens, or humanity will erase its self

>>9281643
if you're doing it just for passport stamps and pics to share online it is a waste. Travel for specific activities or things to see if you can. Even if the specific goal is to just get lost and see old churches. Don't turn into one of those hostel fags with an acoustic guitar and dreadlocks just living in the moment. Also don't chase passport stamps and feel like you have to always go to a new country and have to see a certain amount of new countries a year. That will drain your funds.
>trust me op

>>9283890
Any advice for someone who wants to go to Mongolia to see Genghis stuff? Like specific tours/locations?

>>9281643
It really depends who you ask. I dont like travelling at all, I just find it exhausting and waste of money for me.

>>9281643

I live in the dark and rainy northern Europe and I have found that a week spent Gran Canaria in wintertime basically kills my winter depression.