/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>9234878
Whats the fastest/cheapest way to get .2 eth of value to IDEX from yobit so I can buy Holo?

>>9235153
Withdrawal from yobit to personal ETH wallet.
Connect via ledger/metamask to your ETH wallet on IDEX.
Press the buy button until your order goes through.

What problem does it solve btw?

This is an ideological approach, it doesn't solve anything.
>Devs have already created decentralized Twitter and Slack clones
And then what? Insert token to send a message? Is there even proof this exists and if yes, why are you holding a worthless ERC20 token?

>>9235176
ok, what if it says I have to wait until the 4th because I had to change my password?

>>9235207

I solves scalability, centralization and data ownership issues, which are big problems in both the blockchain world and the tech world in general.

>>9235219
Then you probably have to wait until the 4th to make a withdrawal, check regularly and as soon as your funds aren't locked, withdraw your ETH

>>9235220
>data ownership issues
Can't be solved by blockchain. You can copy anything. End of story.

>centralization
Not necessarily a problem for instant messengers and can be solved without blockchain.

> scalability
See above, twitter and slack don't have scaling problems.

Ah you tech illiterate people are so funny.

>>9234878
Screenshot
>this is good code
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>this is also good code
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>this code also blows my mind
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>I like this code
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>This code is really good

>>9235288
You don't know who the author of the article is do you?

Any talks on if it'll ever hit exchanges other than IDEX and a few obscure Chinese exchanges? IDEX is quite bad.

>>9235248
Good thing Holo isn't a blockchain then. It's crypto/hash based but not a blockchain.
+ Blockchain has scaling problems, so Holochain is actually solving problems in both worlds.

Again, if you actually want to FUD a project efficiently, try to educate yourself by reading the whitepapers or at least youtube vids, but then again if you did you wouldn't be FUDing so..

>>9235248
it's all about costs

>>9235248
>Can't be solved by blockchain
>by blockchain
>blockchain
maybe you will learn after it 10x'd another time

>>9235332
Damnit you're stupid son.

>>9235337
Eh.... what cost does Slack cause you exactly..? Would you like it to cause costs to you? cause then all you have to do is use Holo.

>>9235346
Wow another IQ60. Good job.

>>9235207

Kek, anon.....If you can't see how 0 Oracle problem and the ability to create not just smart contracts but basically emulate every other crypto and web service out there, faster than the originals with unlimited scalability is going to be big I've got nothing for you.

>>9235410
>Kek, anon....
This is where I knew I'd regret reading your post to the end.
>you.
This is where the regret kicked in.

You people will fall flat soon enough. But I'm happy. Go do it.

>>9235332
I read the whitepaper and the website, it's a stupid idea.

'Today our online movements are tracked, logged, analyzed, and sold...'

AND YET

'When you use apps on Holo, all your actions are cryptographically signed by you. This means anonymity is very hard to achieve with Holo'

Holo gives developers less control over their apps, and forces them to pay transaction fees to some boomer assholes. I just don't understand who will ever use it, can anyone give a single example of where this would improve anything?

>>9235486
Let's not tell them, it's funnier if they buy in.

I have 100k HOT, will I be a thousandaire by the end of the week?

>>9235504
Tell me why you aren't buying then?

>>9235448

Thanks for your two Satoshis, newfriend. You've failed at FUDing Holochain but more importantly have proven you know jack shit about even the most simplistic concepts, not to mention use cases, of decentralized technology in general.

>>9235560
I don't believe in the Holochain. I think it's a story made up to squeeze money out of the goyim.

>>9235504
But it's fucking stupid. They can't even come up with a use case themselves.

'Imagine a rideshare app run by the riders and drivers without a monopoly in the middle dictating terms.'

Why would anyone make this app, and who is going to handle regulation?

'help emergency responders coordinate with one another in the aftermath of a fire or hurricane, without needing to have a connection all the way back to some Silicon Valley data center. Unlike today's centralized applications, apps on Holo run just fine on a local network.'

They have radios, and what kind of local network would they even be running?

'Imagine a community of rural homeowners who generate, store, and share electricity'

I'm sure the hippy commune will write an app to sell to each other for pennies while paying transaction fees to a large company.

Also
>holochain
Was their marketing team asleep or is it an in-gag? Cool token name that quickly autofills to holocaust on google, normies are gonna love that.

>>9235625
You're smart, anon, and you're probably quite right. But now let's lean back and watch these freaks by a worthless shit token that serves as fuel on a weird network.

why should i buy a coin that's named after the holocaust

>>9235670
Mom, dad. I invested into the Holochain today.
[panic screams, "my son is a nazi!"]

>>9235662
>weird
Is this the new creep?

>>9235625
>>9235631
>>9235662

>>9235689
No, it came before that. Are you literally 12 years old?

>>9235486
I doubled my money then got out. my only regret is I didnt go all in

>>9235486
Good fud. Keep it up, gaynon

>>9235707
Nice projection, underage scum

>>9235625
Congratulations you are sub 100 IQ

https://blockonomi.com/holochain-guide/

Now that the LARPfest is over, this thread can resume. The link is a very brief summary of what Holochain does.

>more decentralized than EOS
>not a blockchain
>framework for peer-to-peer distributed apps
> solves scalability and transaction time issues

>>9235631
there will be a tipping point where HoloChain is the first thing that pops up when you type Holo on google. Give it a month or two.

>>9236499
I ordered a holoport+ on indigogo, have some js experience may do the dev class also to see more will report in t.bagholder

>>9236630

oy vey

IDEX is such a POS. I placed an order for HOT 2 days ago, and it looked like it went through and just went to check my HOT now and it never bought! fuck IDEX. And trading is now under maintanence

>>9236945

btw is there anywhere an american can buy it?

>>9236945
>>9236969
use idex in chrome its an eth app so it moves dependent on block speed but I have gotten everything I sent through it just takes a while

>>9237046

it says idex trading is suspended right now though, can I still buy it?

>>9237046
I'm using it in chrome, it's garbage, doesn't complete trades

>>9237132
>But it's fucking stupid. They can't even come u
Idex is fucked up right now. You might have to wait a bit.

>>9237166
>>9237132
yes and even if you submit a trade and it says trading suspended maintenance, you can reload the page and try to resubmit it theres no double charge. Getting used to depositing into a quick balance is what trips everyone up ive been using this for 3 days it's a different pace then spamming binance trades or robin hood but this is an ethereum app and it is growing with the volume. First day of holo trading they went from 15 to 20 mil volume which has caused the problems but not a bad sign imo

>>9237132
and once you get your hot dont constantly reload the my balance page, delta app or cmc update fast enough and you can free up the system to let other people trade

>>9235248
>>data ownership issues
>Can't be solved by blockchain. You can copy anything. End of story.
>>centralization
>Not necessarily a problem for instant messengers and can be solved without blockchain.
>> scalability
>See above, twitter and slack don't have scaling problems.
>Ah you tech illiterate people are so funny.
Go back to your Tron subreddit circle jerk your low IQ butt buddies. Holo is for Chad's only

>>9237132
>it says idex trading is suspended right now though, can I still buy it?
Holochain fuckin broke idex. If this isn't a sign for you dumbasses to buy in then there really is no helping you.

>>9234878
Unironically the last 1000x from ICO.

>>9237830
This is volume that should be handled by a real exchange. I wonder how long it will take...

>>9236945
bought some and they left me fucking 0.02 eth. WHAT THE FUCK?
That $20 could've tripled right now.
WHAT THE FUCK!

How much to holo cost?

What's a realistic gwei for this EOM?

>>9235332
whitepaper can be hard for a normie to undestand desu

>>9238131
EOM will depend on if it stays on this garbage exchange or not.

Safe bet is 5x-10x (500-1000 gwei)

Why does it have a token if it doesn't use a blockchain?

>>9238131
>>9238174
wtf is this gwei shit

enlighten an idiot pls

Signed,
Dipshit

>>9238285
the token is a placeholder for fuel which is used to run the network cant you fucking read when it launches in 3-6 months you get 1:1

>>9238285
because desu its the only way this project can be monetized like so many others the token magically appears otherwise theres no money in it

>>9238289
Bitcoin >> Shitoshi
Etherium >> Gwei

"If A and B wish to transfer value, and they agree, C doesn’t have to know about it"

Isn't this the double spending problem? If C doesn't know about A and B's transaction, then B could pull a fast one and double spend with A and C? Isn't that why the blockchain was created?

>>9235363
t. pajeti

>>9237830
Unironically this.

>>9238351

Naw, basically rather than a single chain fir all transactions, every agent runs it's own chain. Valid transactions can be verified using a bunch of cryptographic voodoo I can't be assed writing out here. But yeah, it solves the doublespending problem, if 2 or more people try to collaborate on an attack they basically fork themselves into a seperate space cut off from the rest of the playform. Go read the whitepaper and greenpaper - it's fucking insanely clever.

>>9234878

>>9235326
stellarport.io has it listed

>>9239333
IDEX is working but lagging a bit. Lots of buys going through still.

>>9239333

NONONONONONONONO! this is a fucking scam by Willy the Whale... do not buy HOT on Stellarport, please do not feed that guy... he has to buy out the XYO and XTC books before he's allowed to post here again.

>>9240314
we are coming in waves mmmm mmmm mmmm