/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>9151820
>Isn't money supposed to help you sleep and make you less stressed?
no, no one is saying that

https://youtu.be/LDKxpZfsN6Y

>>9151820
He literally works 16 hours a day.

>>9151820
>Isn't money supposed to help you sleep and make you less stressed?

not when you have to work for it

>>9151907
(((CEOs))) dont work

>>9151972
elon is not a normal ceo

>>9151972
So he sleeps on the Tesla factory floor because he can't afford rent. Thanks, got it.

>>9151820
>https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/elon-musk-says-he-is-sleeping-on-tesla-factory-floor-to-save-time.html

>>9151972
He actually does shit.

>>9151820
even his bags have bags

dude's leveraged up to his eyeballs, he's probably not even that liquid and all his assets are tied up in his businesses. he's not that comfy. and especially right now with all the tesla shit going down

>>9152190
He literally pays for his living expenses by taking loans with his stock as collateral. Tesla will be fine by the way, don't fall for the kike media FUD. The stock has easily the biggest upside of all big public companies.

>>9152203
BMW and VW are going to fuck tesla in the ass. it's over in like 5 years

>>9152320
Wow, retard. It's almost as if multiple companies on the market could compete and thrive. Everyone wants Tesla, anyway. No one gives a flying fuck about BMW or VW cuckmobiles. The only one who is positioned to compete in the Tesla's luxury vehicle market is Porsche. There's literally no competition for Model 3. Kys.

>>9152395
Porsche is owned by VW you 16 year old onions boy

>>9152401
No shit you mouthbreathing neckbeard. They're two different brands.

>>9152401
No one wants those cuck German cars kek. Rather buy a lada than give dumb Germans that vote for Merkel money

>>9152395
>says VW is a cuckmobile
>says Porsche is the only one who can compete with Tesla
>doesnt realise VW owns Porsche
On a scale of 1-10, how much of a retard are you?

>>9152412
>this back tracking

you're too stupid to discuss this rationally. you drank elons koolaid tesla is dead

>>9151820
Watch "Revenge of the Electric Car", you'll see him crack just before the original Roadster release.

It's a great documentary, too. It starts like a pretty standard "big oil conspiracy" documentary (with sources and everything) and pretty much ends with the very beginnings of the electric car era.

Great little piece of recent history.

>>9152401
>>9152425

>>9152395
That's you blown the fuck out my boy

>>9152425
>>9152432
>too retarded to realise that Porsche and Volkswagen are two different brands owned by the Volkswagen Group
Audi, Bugatti, Lamborghini, SEAT, Škoda and Bentley are all VW cars as, apparently. This is what 2 digits IQ looks like.

>>9152467
nope technically Porsche S.E. owns VW Group which owns Porsche so you're still wrong kek

>>9152012
He actually did sleep on PayPal's floor in the early days. And a few years ago he said that he can't afford to buy a new house (to be read mansion) because of alimony.

I get the feeling that Elon doesn't see himself in the light that others do; when it comes down to it, he still feels like a lowly startup nerd.

He just wants shit to be done.

>>9152505
Keep quiet >>9152401, you slimy fucktard.

>>9151820
>sn't money supposed to help you sleep and make you less stressed?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>9152578
i'm just memeing

> Audi, Bugatti, Lamborghini, SEAT, Škoda and Bentley

>implying they won't all BTFO tesla

>>9152505

This guy has been right all along.

The anon arguing with him has a serious case of the REEEEEEs

>>9151972
He does though

Probably because he's working hard and he knows his company is way overvalued

>Tesla is up to its shoulders in debt
>Market cap higher than Ford
>Sells a minuscule fraction of units Ford does
>Cars Tesla does sell have shit margins
>No rainy day money at all if the cycle takes a down turn

It seems pretty obvious why he looks like shit. He always tries to do things for his vision of advancement, but most of his companies (SpaceX excepting) have garbage fundamentals.

>>9151820

>>9154907
>It seems pretty obvious why he looks like shit. He always tries to do things for his vision of advancement, but most of his companies (SpaceX excepting) have garbage fundamentals.
Which is also why SpaceX is the only one of his companies not public. He only sells shares for the shitty ones.

>>9151820
You would look even more tired living his lifestyle:
>work all day
>party all night
>sleep only when you get to mars

>>9152452
Fuck you faggot

>>9152412
>>9152395

>>9155083
In a way at least if Telsa fails hard something will have come out of it. The industry has been more aggressive about batteries, electric, and self driving because of its existence. I think Musk honestly cares more about this than Tesla being viable (even though he cares about both).

That being said, he makes too many promises he can't keep. Not sure if he's a delusional level optimist or just trying to stay in the game as long as he can squeeze it for.

>>9151820
He is a ceo of 3 different companies.

>>9151820
time is his enemy

You want to know the real reason?

It's because he's balding and uses minoxidil. That shit helps regrow hair but also causes aging of the face, most notably dark circles and bags under your eyes.

Look it up.

>>9151972
It's this thought mentality that will keep you poor forever. Sure, some CEOs are lazy and don't do much, but they're the exception not the rule poorfag

>>9152395
kek

>>9152401
So from now on we should always refer to Porsches as Volkswagens, because there is no relevant difference? Ok.

Oh wait, no you're a nitpicking retard and you missed his point.

>>9152395
>Everyone wants Tesla
I hate Tesla. Cant wait to see it burn and die.

>>9156571
I wouldn't buy a Tesla if cost wasn't a consideration. Many better options

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpCrkO1x-Qo

Great electronics, shit mechanics
He could have owned the industry, if he had just listened to people who actually built cars before

>>9151972
>HURRRRR!
>CEOs dont do a shit!
>Managers steal money from hard working citizens!
>All they do is sitting in back office and driving lambos

Fuck off blue collar!

>>9156482
>billionare
>Minoxidil

What is hair translant

>>9156983
>hair translant

What did he mean by this?

Have you ever run a business, OP?

>>9156983
>hair translant
he needs brain transplant, not hair.

>>9156983

Not knowing hair transplants are supplemented by finasteride and minoxidil.

Brainlet detected

He literally works

>>9155972
Big oil cuntpuppet detected

>>9151972
You're probably a Pathetic blue collar wagecuck

He makes less than McDs workers if we're talking about actual salary. His success depends completely on the success of his ventures

>>9152567
This is true. He has worked shifts on the assembly lines to show he is dedicated to his employees and their safety. And that's awesome from an employee standpoint, but if you're a shareholder, that's not what you want your golden boy doing

>>9152452
Might check this out tonight, thanks for the recommendation. Can confirm that right before the roadster release he had less than a week's worth of funds. He told his employees and they agreed to work for free until launch if they had to. Still wouldn't have had a happy ending, but some angel investors really like him

>>9151820
Most people are fine once they reach $5 million and will happily retire and spend the rest of their lives relaxing, but some people are mentally ill and think they never have enough, even if they're the richest man in the world.

>>9151820
Not if you actually work for it

>>9151820
no sleep cos he's up all night partying with bitches

Pajeet

>>9157989
Mentally ill captains of industry propel us into the next stage of humanity.

>>9152320
Design wise, BMW is goofy and VW does just a slight facelift for its entire portoflio for the last 20 years.
Technologically they are cucked by EU regulations

>>9151820
>tfw you havent reached Peter Weyland levels

>>9151972

This triggers the bootlicker

>>9151978
"Nominal"

>>9151820
working and having money don't contradict each other. You can choose not to work if you have money, but you still have to do something 12+ hours a day so might as well go for the iron man meme in his place and build some cool shit. He's also too autistic to do otherwise

>>9157989
you still have to do something during the day, if you want to "relax" you can just be homeless and live in a van, that shouldn't be too hard

>>9151972
>CEO's dont work
Tired of this meme. Most CEO's ive met are absolute workaholics and zealots for the company they work for.

>>9151972
This is retardedly false
>>9152012
Its cause he's got work to do he owns his house now
>>9152537
zip2*

People like him are rich because they actually LIKE WORKING. Imagine doing something you like and get paid shitloads of cash for it. Talk about an easy life. He'll propably never stop working no matter how rich he gets lol.

>>9152452
>you'll see him crack just before the original Roadster release.
Yeah he looked and sounded like he was on the verge of suicide at that point.

>>9151907
>He literally works 16 hours a day.

glorified wagecuck

Working for long hours actually feels good though. When you get used to it at least, you feel like a junkie.

>>9151820
>Isn't money supposed to help you sleep
Money can buy a higher-quality bed. I could sure use one.

>>9161250
>that feel when you work 12 hours skipping your breaks and you finish the day in a state of absolute exhaustion
It's literally euphoric.

>>9151972
CEOs aren't (((Limited Partners))), anon

>>9151972
Every single CEO billionaire from the CAC40 I know is a self made man and working hard on keeping their brand relevant

>>9161271
>that feel when you work 12 hours skipping your breaks and you finish the day in a state of absolute exhaustion
>It's literally euphoric.

>That feel when you wake up in the morning knowing you never have to work another day in your life.

It's literally euphoric.

>>9151972
you fucking moron hahahaha. you think you could do elon musk's job huh? lmfao

>>9151820
PT Barnum, cept the original didn't owe billions in debt. Explains why he Elon wants to get off the planet lol.

>>9161271
you're a fucking idiot. it's not, it's literally the fucking opposite. if this was true, everyone would be doing it. there's a reason hardly anyone is that dedicated, because it sucks.

he's getting financially rekt behind the scenes according to CDAN:
www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/04/blind-items-revealed-5-mr-hedge.html

Because Sears posted positive net income while Tesla is out nearly 1 bill a year. Just matter of time untill investors bail on him.

>>9151820
Those are war scars. Stripes. I respect guys whose eyes are permabagged. It’s from getting little sleep, presumably from working. The most successful guys wear permabags in their pursuit of wealth.

>>9162193
I carry bags with me everywhere I go, will I be like Elon one day?

>>9162128
Maybe different things affect different people differently..?

>>9162128
It is for me, but it helps that if I'm doing nothing my mind is constantly filled with negative thoughts. Working to exhaustion prevents this and I get a feeling of acheivement at the end of the day.

>>9151978
Christ what kind of cuck faggot defends some billionaire welfare queen who makes shitty cars. Am I on fucking reddit?

>>9163409
this. These onions are the worst.

>>9163450
s oygoys not onions

>>9162128
>if you truly felt a certain way in a particular situation, everyone else would feel that way too
of course it's the retard calling other people fucking idiots.