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1st for leverage

first

>>9005956
Bank of America is such a fucking garbage company that I think it'll go down yet. WFC's marginally better.
>>9005943
That's the news I've been waiting for. No reason AMD won't touch 11 but MU might not touch 60 by the time my options expire.

third

>>9005875
Jennifer Connely was so, so, so fine.
>>9006004
Oops

>>9005995
i disagree and think that WFC is way worse, but well see.

>>9006017
I'm not saying WFC won't go down. Heh.

Penith

Get in on the weed market if you haven't already. Here's some of my port, minus the questionable stuff that's costing me money:

Established, reliable, but maybe not a huge amount of gain potential:
TWMJF

Extremely reliable picks:
ACBFF
APHQF

Medium cost, High Potential:
AMMJ
XXII - Not weed, tobacco producer that's specifically geared to take advantage of the low-nicotine market which Congress is pushing for. Major potential as a stop-smoking aid.

Penny stocks with LOTS of potential:
OWCP - Not a direct seller, has 31 patents pending approval process and is doing research into topical treatments. High recommend, but won't see a pop until they release results of trials. Won't directly be influenced by Legalization. Long term hold.
FRLF
MJNA
GRNH
MCOA

Higher risk, but huge return possibility:
RSII
LVVV

Reposted from the last bread because it was right as the switch happened.

Not sure why Aphria sucks so much. Always the loss leader in the sector, never pumps as hard on the upswing. WEED and CRON green today. ACB hovering flat. APH -2%.

If you're thinking about entering position on APH you may want to wait until it really tanks. Or avoid entirely. I won't touch it.

>>9006063
Yuck! Me not buy weed for same reason not buy toccabo

>>9006030
right, i guess theyre likely go down in tandem. i just like the bearish momentum on WFC better. and it has further to fall even after the last 3 months

>>9006063
Here's my full portfolio these are picked out of for anyone that gives a shit. I'm well aware how shit WWR, ELED, ICNB are, may my bags eventually become light
because fuck they're heavy, but thoughts on the rest?

I've got $10k split across these.

>>9006063
so no pot plays with divs? i cant be arsed to buy any of that shit now if theyre not gonna pay me for the risk

You know it's bad when everytime there's a red day you have to clench your ass cheeks and ask if this is the big one.

>>9006069
I'm gonna pick more up in the 6-7 range if it drops there. It's got the value to be worth buying into, not sure why the trends are so shit.

I bought in at 9.10 before.

I got over 100% gains on my DUST play.

question:
they yield curve is inverting.
does this mean that all bonds are going to the center of the earth?

>>9005995
WFC has much more exposure to subprime loans, and have consistently engaged in criminal, fraudulent behavior (at least, have been found out more than other banks). They are resting on 1month kumo support currently. A bad day to end out this week & bad week next will spell disaster for them. I can't imagine the $200B funding commitment for clean energy will go well for them. They are clearly trying to take advantage of the green energy scam by relying on taxpayers to foot the bill when shit companies go belly up. I think Trump w/ a true house & senate majority will say, fuck that nonsense, along with a continual promotion of fossil energy.

For the record I support green energy, but only when it is an organic company, or internal to a federal agency, not relying on government subsidizes that make monsters like Tesla. Taxpayers should not be footing the bill for failures of a PRIVATE company!

>>9006133
Forgot pic.

Here's my full portfolio these are picked out of for anyone that gives a shit. I'm well aware how shit WWR, ELED, ICNB are, may my bags eventually become light
because fuck they're heavy, but thoughts on the rest?

I've got $10k split across these.

>>9006182
are most of these weedayylmao stocks?

>>9006175
Yes buy TLT puts, it's literally free money. I have been telling you all to do this since January.

>>9006177
i concur.
government subsidized businesses never have any reason to actually try as they get their welfare check every month regardless of their performance as a company

>>9006063

I'm suprised more weed stores don't accept Crypto as a way around not being able to be banked.

nocoiners btfo

>>9006177
Ah. You're probably right. Anyways where's TA guy so I can hit him for the BAC recc? Actually, that's probably gonna pay off at some point. I actually want to hit myself for buying three $65 calls for MU expiring one month from now.

>>9006182
Trim that down. Way down. With 10k i recommend no more than five positions. Too diluted.

>>9006242
lel ive been with ya since january on it. done a couple ITM options flips.

now im doing puts on TMF cuz 3x.

does anyone have an optionable leveraged junk bond ETF, or should i just go for the regular HYG and JNK?

>>9006253
Son, go to your room!

>>9006177
I think that America needs to tax everybody at 100% control every means of production and military service should be mandatory AMA.

>>9006256
the MU calls are the only ones i saw that are an absolute mistake.

youll probably get something for those BAC ones if you hang on for dear life. youre not way OTM are you?

>>9006253

>>9006291
Not way OTM. A safe $29.

>>9006256
teh_profit & I have been posting TA of BAC & WFC. I've been the one shitposting it for most of the week. Do we have a problem? If you didn't exit Wednesday b4 close, just HODL, assuming you didn't make a dumb 25 put for today/next week. Try to exit options when you can, unless you are way ITM. When do your puts expire?

>>9006285
I'm not suprised, you are a communist jew after all, be it, /our/commiejew.

>>9006258
Disagree, with weedlmao stocks having one position of $300 that triples is more likely than picking the ONE that's gonna pop at any given time. Often there's not even any catalysts, they just moon.

>>9006258
There crypto called WEED that do this

>>9006216
They are, yeah. My broker manages my account with my normie-shit. This is just play money for me over the last few years, essentially.

>>9006306
I-i-its just a dip, Ha ha.

>>9006357
dead cat

Update on BAC & WFC

HA, MACD, RSI indicates begin of downward trend. Ichimoku indicates upward. Looking to test 15, 1hr, 4hr, support in sour hour. Macro trends overall bearish (1hr, 4hr, 1d, 1wk, 1mnth)

>>9006309
kek
i was about to say thats kind of far away, then i looked back at my own retardation. WFC puts at 50. fuck me

>>9006385
forgot 15min chart.

>>9006321
did i actually have an underscore in my trip? i had no idea i did that. thats fucking retarded

>>9006141
Ahem.
CRF, CBL, OXSQ, SNR, UNIT, MORL, GNL, OXLC are reasonably priced and have comfy dividends.

>>9006420
i was trying to summon you.

i lost my fucking sheet that i had em all written down on

>>9006398
>>9006385

BAC's at 30 rn and dropping so I'm still bearish.

>>9006285
>100% tax
no.
>control every means of production
inefficient. "capitalism" is actually great for resource allocation.
>military service should be mandatory
I fully support this.

>>9006175
yeah it is going down the shitter. finance sector will be demolished

>>9006414
yeah i think so, but the 'teh' is already retarded enough. How dare you try to be funny!

So, /SMG/ what pans do you have for the weekend
>fuckin work like the wagecuck I am

SPY has formed the rising loundness decending staircase pattern on the 15 minute chart.

man im shorting a lot of bonds right now. i wonder how this is gonna work out. this might be my new, low risk bread and butter trade for the rest of the FED tightening season. i mean theres no fucking way anyone could possibly be bullish on high yield corporate debt right now, right?

>>9006465
"teh" is unironically how i pronounce "the" when im talking too fast

>>9006420
Just googled "dividends" ....
Holy shit

Going out to Olive Garden tonight, what should I get?

When do I sell most of my stocks and go all in an inverse S&P etf?

>>9006544
fucking how?

>>9006547
continually ask for more breadsticks and stare incessantly at the menu. then "leave to go to the bathroom" and take the fuck off. thats what i do whenever im on the road and got no cash. the breadsticks are better than the rest of their whole menu anyways

>>9006553
>NOW

>>9006538
Slow down when you speak. Just life advice. It takes less time to say something once and be understood than to repeat yourself, or worse, be misunderstood and not asked for repetition.

>>9006385
this is some virgin TA

>>9006533
Odd, I saw the swinging cock and balls pattern. Maybe you should check your TA.

>>9006533
can confirm >>9006605 , recommend you check your TA again.

>>9006598
I'm being lazy now give shekels

>>9006420
Except for the fact that they are risky.

>>9006528
I don't know what my plans are. I usually just get black out drunk Friday night and come out of it Monday morning. I can't remember what weekends are like.

>>9006544
I'm too much of a newfag to get a lot of opportunities to contribute. Just let me have this one.

>>9006574
No can do, friend. I'm taking my family with me.

>>9006659
bullshit, your family is dragging you out of your cave by luring you with breadsticks you fucking neet

>>9006649
show bobs & vegena and i'll let it slide

>>9006528
I work Friday through Sunday

>>9006687
>bullshit, your family is dragging you out of your cave by luring you with breadsticks you fucking neet
this

>>9006687
Sure thing.

>>9006627
>>9006605
Check again.

>>9006544
Wow you never heard of dividends?

>>9006605
also was this a joke post or did some autist do this

Here we go again!

>>9006544
It's like you just suck the dick once, and then it keeps sucking its self for you.

>>9006633
So use the payouts to buy O. At some point I'll stop piling those and buy things like KO or IRM.

>>9006533
Me going for write a few letters @ indicator and trading platforms makers asking for free subs

Me hoping Simpelyfe let me use his itchy cloud for free

>>9006759
Imagine drawing that many meme lines on a btc chart when it's just gonna Bart you

>>9006771
capped desu

>>9006766

NO NO NO NO!!!

>>9006750
>>9006771
Me thought they something POWH made up for ponzu scheme. Not legit way companies give money back to investors in loo of R&D

Appearing tobacco stocks have high dividend because they not need R&D!

Also kek appreciate the cock analogy
But dividends more like turning on can do guys can watch me make poopy, or take shower, or rub lotion on feet

Who's ready for another recession?

>>9006957
*turning on webcam so guys can watch me make poopy

>>9006807
Is O really that good? I already buy KO and PG.

>>9006819
show him your tits.
not even joking. thats probably your best bet

>>9006957
>But dividends more like turning on can do guys can watch me make poopy, or take shower, or rub lotion on feet
im glad to see you have such high class clientèle

>>9006967
Won't happen for at least another few years.

POWER HOUR LADS IN 5, WHAT STOCKS YOU GOT IN?
>CRC 60 shares

>>9007008
I'm thinking close to 2, maybe 1 /12. Have you seen what just happened to the CLO market?

>>9007046
SPY puts.

Time to buy Apple?

>>9007080
Apple is dead, kid.

>>9007046

500 shares of MYO

>>9007066
thaks jus bot 100k

>>9006988
It's good in that I expect it to still be around when I retire in 25 years or so. As long as we don't go full Road Warrior, the same goes for GEO or OHI. There are better yields out there, but they come with more risk, as has been noted above.

I don't know what to do

>>9006771
>mfw

>>9007160
About this dream and you

>>9007160
Sit flat until FANG finishes reporting. The dip today as because of Apple FUD.

>>9007160

bee yourself

>>9007178
I wish this dream comes true

ahhhh
its really satisfying to buy a put and watch the underlying plummet immediately afterwards. i feel like a bog

Oh shit Avicii died. We need a moment of silence.

>>9007219
what put?

Thank you.

>>9007225
Puts on Sweden?

>>9007219
daytrading with these weeblines is fucking phenomenal

>>9007225
who dat?

>>9007231
SPY

>>9007225

I couldn't find that ticker

>>9007063
I haven't been paying too much attention to it. Could you give me a link or a quick rundown?
>>9007046
25 CLX, might buy more if next week doesn't do so well. Though, I do feel it's a little over valued.
>>9007155
Huh, I'll ask my father about it. He's an expert in that field.

>>9007240
>SPY
nice.

>BAC & WFC begin the plummet

>>9007251
the ticker for sweden is CUK

>>9006991
Kek, me just tell most of the guys am poor, retarded, and will shamelessly shill their product like crack whore looking for $8 and they give for free

Who here Buying the Close?

>>9007271
Me, I'm gambling on Google earnings.

>>9007271
pass. i wanna try and buy those 4wk treasuries that anon was talking about this week. seems like if i get one right after it plummets due to rate hikes and yield curve fuckery, id be able to get them for a really low face value. then, 4wks go by and i get the difference up to par (atleast i believe thats the idea)

When people say that SNAP is an inverse hedge really aren't bullshitting.

Oh, looks like I own some ALT now. I forgot why I placed an order.

>>9006182
fellow WWR bagholder here. feels yo

>>9007259

BULLISH

>>9007365
theyre always prepping the bull over there

>>9007066
What are your strike prices you aim for?

>>9007343
Those fucking feels, man. That was in my first few months of trading. I'm down 87% on it. Lesson learned, I guess.

>>9007422
i bought an ATM one right when he said that for 266.50. im only going for a quick scalp though. if youre trying to make these kinds of bets though, place them BEFORE power hour starts and vol picks up. kinda too late today

HOW DO I MAKE MONEY NEXR WEEK I JUST BARELY AFLOAT

>>9007240
>who dat?
Did you born in 200x? You are disgusting :3

>>9007264
Does this really work? Probably female privilege on your part. What trading stuff have you received for free?

Just wait for the waterfall at 3:50 when all the “Market On Close” orders hit.

>>9007496
That pic is super underrated

>>9007565
>buying into the larp

>>9007543
lel why in the fuck would i give a shit about some wigger rapper from cuckistan, UNLESS i was a fucking post 911 child?

Sell off or hold over the weekend?

>>9007271
I blew all of my settled funds yesterday on INTC.

I don't feel like buying the dip any more.
Something tells me this one won't be like the others.

>>9007626
Hold

>>9007254
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-23/clos-%E2%80%93-safe-cdos-%E2%80%93-are-booming-again
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-19/china-clo
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-marketreaction-clodecision/clo-market-cheers-end-of-risk-retention-rules-idUSKCN1FX29C
https://medium.com/bull-market/deregulation-bad-for-cheeseburgers-bad-for-financial-markets-c0a10df19e18


In essence they're currently getting the all clear to box up as much shit as they please without any risk.

>>9007642
Kinda my sentiment. 2 days down and we'll use any news over the weekend as an excuse to be green on Monday

But then again, I thought today would have been much better.

>>9007631
get margin senpai

>>9007631
settled cash rules are fucking gay

>>9007641
thats most likely the responsible thing to do

>>9007648
Also, Blackrock, one of the major offenders here has this dink in charge of their shit. check out his portfolio. VP over at Lehman, during that one time, managing you guessed it....
https://www.blackrock.com/institutions/en-us/biographies/scott-snell

END OF DAY SELLOFF JUST AS PREDICTED

NOBODY WANTS TO HOLD OVER THE WEEKEND IN A TRUMP BOG MARKET

YOU WERE WARNED

Who else here has puts on HAS?

is cuckonearth still in SSC? i wanna PUT him out of his misery

>>9007709
ya ever get the feeling that blackrocks whole purpose is to cock everything the fuck up for the rest of us?

>>9007735

>>9007565

>female privilege

>>9007735
baka at people posting roasties when I just want to see this

What is the Chance of a Matter Hasbro Offering?

>>9006957
what state you live in, I might pay you a visit

>>9007422
I closed holding cash as we await the moment of clarity.

>>9007794
*Mattel Acquisition by Hasbro

>>9007768
Yep, and Deutsche is doing what I bet those nitwits are doing right now too
https://www.thestreet.com/story/13744509/1/deutsche-bank-said-to-securitize-5-5-billion-of-loans-to-buoy-capital.html

Fucking Synthetic CLOs

Did you bros buy the SUNRUN dip?

>>9007813
hasbro bought mattel years ago I thought

Why has OHI tanked so hard? It's like my most risky picks are dipping a bit while my "safe" picks are shitting the bed.

>>9007815
Who has huge CLO exposure? I've been reading up on them today, and wanted to research over the weekend. Couldn't find a way to short synth CLOs today. Quick anon please, I wanna short before market close

>>9007102

made 50 dollarydoos so far

>>9007845
Looks juicy at 25.30

>>9007565
Premium tradingview, swing gene, and a shit load of other custom indicators

>>9007849
Citi led last year

>>9007841
Hasbro will be having an Earning call before the bell on Monday.

I'm Buying Mattel Just in case they shit post about buying it, also it's trading on the low end of the range, could be a Value buy.

>>9007810
yeah i scraped out like $40 on it myself
definitely needed that

>>9007815
woah. i knew they were having trouble but holy shit. who in their right minds would buy those idiots debt? also seconding this >>9007849

>>9007807
South Texas
Please murder me violently

Big red dildoes approaching after the short squeeze now lads, hold on.

>>9007909
>>9007849
Both of you also read this report, put out by Wells Fargo

>>9007912
mexican infested area or near Houston?

>>9007257
>BAC & WFC begin the plummet

>>9007921

>>9007934
so just short WFC then? way ahead of ya. in fact, i may be too far ahead of ya

>>9007898
Noted, bought 35 shares.

>>9007619
who gives a shit I just want free stuff
>>9007895
What the fuck

TVIX has been awakened for this comming week lads, tread lightly

>>9007934
https://www.wellsfargoresearch.com/Reports/DetailsAnon/4b4583c5-fc96-40dc-8add-d2540df8b179?source=WFR.com

Balls, forgot link

>>9007992
Good to have some on on board brother.
we shall reach the moon mushiiyat allah

>>9007898

I bought 1 share

>>9007950
WFC is looking ready to tumble big
i knew we would get our chance to shine

>>9008015
Also looks like Morgan Stanley is a big player too
https://asreport.americanbanker.com/news/morgan-stanley-raises-forecast-for-2018-clo-issuance-by-10

T-2 minutes folks

get your orders in

>>9008076
SHORT SOME FUCKING CLO HOLDERS FOR ME LADS

>>9008031
Go 1,380 Shares.

We gonna ride these waves real good.

So theres a massive red dildo on WFC after hours, the volume was more than the entire day. I shouldn't have bailed on my puts, damnit

welp down $3.62 (0.25%) for the week, how'd you lads do?

>>9008167
i fucking KNEW it was a farce. but i wish i stuck with BAC. took a 20% loss on em, so i know that feel

I just want the great crash to come already. Fuck all these slow ass declines keep tempting me to jump in.

>>9008193
wha-what is that?

>>9008175
Made $2,200
Lost $1,500
Total Gains of $700


Gona Ride the Mattel-Hasbro Merger/Buyout Hype Train.

It might be real this time.

>>9008214
It's a demon, or an aborted fetus that survived. I can't figure out which.

>>9008193
damn life can be such a bitch sometimes

>>9008214
generations of inbreeding.

Remember to mix goyim.

>>9008193
lets not rush it, eh? think of it this way. if everything crashes at once, youll only be able to have one set of short positions. if everything collapses at different times, then you got tons of opportunities to short everything

>>9008175

made $2200 this week (+3%)

would have been much much better if i didnt have one major fuck up with ONTX
stupid ass penny biotech meme bullshit

>>9008167
>>9008185
...O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?

>>9008175
My long term stocks were killing me this week. Hope they come back up next week.

>>9008175
Made $600 yesterday
Lost $300 today
Total gain $300 (2.4%)

I guess if you put it into perspective the sell off today wasn't that bad

Thanks for the heads up on DB, C, by who I assume is teh_profit. I bought some puts on them.

>>9008175

I want off this ride

Have a good weekend everyone! No TA tonight, will be tomorrow and I'll post it in the enclave. I'll be doing 1D, 1WK, 1MNTH for BAC, WFC, C, DB, SPY, QQQ, likely.

>>9008214
Doctor fag here, I'll chime in. It looks like she has Lecsh Nyhan syndrome which would be incredibly rare for a female to get because its X linked, so it may not be it exactly. Its probably just another type of cerebral palsy. In any case she is chewing off her own face, which can happen in extreme genetic defects or autism cases (like /smg/). She is probably tied to the bed so she doesnt completely self cannibalize.

>>9008338
>teh_profit
No idea who that is, I'm just some guy

>>9008338
At this point DBK is a meme...
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-19/deutsche-bank-mistakenly-sends-35-billion-out-door

>"""mistakenly""" gave away 35B$
>wat

>>9008374
wtf man
That is why I could never be a doctor fag

(and also my iq being rather low ._.)

>>9008374
>chewing off her own face

>>9008406
Deustche and all these other idiots might literally be buying shit boxes from the Caymans
http://www.mondaq.com/caymanislands/x/638692/securitization+structured+finance/CLOsing+time+the+rise+of+Cayman+CLO+funds

>>9008291

But at this rate, we are technically shorting good fundamentals.

Look at all the bank short retards in this thread, most lost money and some made a pittance.

>>9008299
i decided i only needed to short ONE major bank stock at a time. WFC has the most momentum, furthest to fall, and i liked the chart better (and obviously, they have the most shit loans). i got out this morning at around 30.15 or so.

on the bright side, my junk bonds puts are already up by like 15%. and my TMF puts are already well in the money just from the last couple days alone.

short crappy corporate and government debt, goyim. tis the season

>>9008338
thats me. but ill take credit for it nonetheless

>>9008374

holy shit

>>9008470
http://www.journal.ky/2013/08/07/five-years-on-collateralised-loan-obligations-are-back/

These guys are doing shadier shit than your weird, fat, most likely mafia connected uncle at a bowling alley in Jersey

Weed sector had a half assed mini dump in the last 15 minutes to spite 420. Tradition of 420 being an unremarkable nothing day for weed stocks upheld.

>>9008475
fundamentals have nowhere to go but down. especially in this economic environment. and im still shorting banks because the shoe has yet to drop for all their subprime fuckery. patience and iron hands are a virtue when playing the short game. a full pack of smokes helps too

>>9008519
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>>9008214
>>9008255
>>9008374
>>9008464
It's a combination of congenital defects and Rett syndrome. Just google the name in the lower left corner.

>>9008519
I'll add to this. these things are filled with lines of credit and loans to companies that are non-bank lenders to shitty businesses. A guy who worked at stratton oakmont is now running a firm that is getting a 10 million dollar LoC from DB to lend to small-medium businesses at huge interest rates.

>>9008574
They're trying desperately to not only separate themselves from risk publicly but also to bolster the perceived value of these garbage loans through obfuscation and a chain of lending.

>>9008569
>Just google the name in the lower left corner.
fuck that

>>9008374
>Lecsh Nyhan syndrome
>self mutilation and cannibalization of the head and hands, in mental retardation followed by involuntary muscle movements.

Life is truly more warped and ghastly than fiction.

>>9008530
makes sense though.
half the regular traders are just getting baked

>>9008574
thats it. its decided. i had my eye on DB, but they were bouncing. this settles it. after i get my WFC payout, im going after DB. might get a year contract since theyre so damn cheap. just set it and forget it

>>9008623
>half the regular traders are just getting baked

Yep

>>9008648
that reminds me. i gotta grab myself some shit before my show tonight. gonna get fucking trainwrecked and go stand in front of a bunch of people

>>9008612
I've only seen one case, the kids hands and fingers were chewed off and he had no lips like the girl in the picture. Very very creepy. I felt really bad for the parents, they were good people who got dealt a difficult hand.

>>9008669
Do you get to fuck groupies after your performance

>>9008669
To each his own man. I prefer Ampheds

>>9008714
Ha! Found those issuance numbers
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lpc-clo-volume-jumps-100-142612072.html

>>9008569
No I'm going to go with her mother smoked and drank like some guy I knew while she was pregnant.

>>9008740
someone should get access to this here
https://www.lpccollateral.com/collateral/
I would love to see the detailed numbers

>>9008695
Yeah if there's one thing I've learned in years of playing poker. When you're dealt shit cards you fold.

>>9008669
What do you perform?

>>9008766
I'll try to. If anyone wants to join the cool backup board check pic related. PDFs of books, etc, stays up all weekend. I think I'm going to make a thread for bank analysis, sort of a summary of why I'm shorting them. Will post all the articles I've saved on there.

What's everybody drinking this weekend?

>>9009005
Teetotalism

>>9009005
This seems appropriate with the OP image. Still down 9 dollars on MU. Average price is 59.38. Kill me.

>>9009005
Water.

>>9009076
Oh man that looks great.

>>9009079
I don't know his thing looks awesome.

>>9009005
Likely some Apothic Red while I play some Persona to wash away the red

>>9009005
The cheap stuff. Until I make it

>>9008972
I'll be lurking. I'll see if I can dig up any more shit
>>9009005
Cliquot. I stole it

>>9009076

How many shares?

>>9009111
I've had that stuff, it's pretty good. I think I'm going to have the dihydrogen monoxide with some vitamins and fructose in it. Trying to stay away from the ethanol.

>>9009105
It's super smooth a little too sweet which is why I drink it on the rocks and let it sit a bit.

How far out and what price is everyone shorting banks?

>>9009134
50 shares

>>9009005
Water, Juice, Milk.

>>9008855
moo sick

>>9008714
i already cant get to sleep, and hardly eat at all anyways. amps of any kind turn me into an annoying cracked out chatterbox. and they make me smoke too much cigs

>>9008707
sometimes, on rare occasions ill get lucky. that shit is overrated though desu. the only chicks that do that kind of stuff anymore are fucking depressing alcoholic whores.

>>9009005
marijuana

>>9009158

>>9009158
It's a long haul game at this point.

>>9009192
Even though I'm a I'm not lactose intolerant. I might have to get some of that strawberry syrup stuff and put it in the milk.

>>9009005
Kweichow Moutai+pepsi cola

>>9009158
my WFC ones are at 50 for the end of may. idk if im gonna make it desu, but im gonna try and get something.

but i was eyeing up the DB puts for january 2019. fucking things are like 100 dollars. whos with me?

>>9009260
>I am a I am not lactose intolerant
You start slugging at market close? Lol

Chocolate syrup is always good to put in milk.

>>9009266
Not mixing with KO...

>>9009223
Pot is now a drink

>>9009318
yall mofos aint never had potequila? its the only alcohol ill drink anymore.

>>9009225
Thanks. You think WFC will tank that hard? They're the ones I've been eyeing

>>9009190

>>9009342
judging by the last couple of months, and all this bad press comin out? yeah probably at some point. i dont know about by the middle of may tho

>>9009334
>potequila
I've brewed beer with pot, I've done the thing where you put the pot in the everclear or what ever other spirit you want. I forgot you can drink pot. My mistake. My personal favorite was Potdka, or when you put the vodka in the bong instead of water and then you drink the vodka after smoking. My bad...

>>9009342
They just agreed to have the feds run their board and executives dog

>>9009380
>My personal favorite was Potdka, or when you put the vodka in the bong instead of water and then you drink the vodka after smoking. My bad...
damn dude thats fucking nasty
what is the purpose of drinking bong water (or vodka in this instance)? theres no way it retains any of the thc, does it?

>>9009383
And defaults on auto loans are getting high as fuck

>>9009383
Help a brainlet out...

>was up 8% on MU, now barely above break even
REEEE

>>9009318
Pepsi Max is way better m8

>>9009418
>translation
they are fucked. its a matter of when

>>9009408
When there's ethanol it can, but it's mostly about the taste.

>>9009342
Yeah, in part because of >>9009383 trend reversal ending up being tested today and failed to break out. That is not to mention the dump that occurred at market close. Prop job today, I think

>>9009413
Subprime auto defaults are at an ATH. Beat out the recession rate. It is not a massive sector though, but will be impactful. Just not recession status. That is the student loan, CRE, CLO, yield issues.

>>9006015
>Jennifer Connely was so, so, so fine.

Have you watched "The Hot Spot?"

If not you should

>>9009418
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/04/business/wells-fargo-fed-board-directors-penalties.html

>>9009225
Looks like youre itm at open

>>9009447
ha well i hope you used a clean bong at least. those things get gross fast

>>9009438
Doesn't BRK.A have a huge position in BAC and WFC? What's gonna happen to them?

>>9009456
I was reading a close CLO analysis by WFC and 30% of some AAA traunches are student loans that are defaultable

>>9009473
kosher salt, and high proof alcohol is the best way to clean the bong. The salt acts as an abrasive and scrubs the resin out.

>>9009497
I need to dig it back up. I'm driving atm

>>9009498
Acetone Is better

>>9009496
what he always does. holds.

>>9009497
>I was reading a close CLO analysis by WFC and 30% of some AAA traunches are student loans that are defaultable
man this just keeps getting better and better. what did i tell you guys? knew we were gonna be swimming in bank FUD articles by today. i cant WAIT for monday

>>9009567
Yeah the whole buzz about the student loan crisis and bankruptcy not being an out is only applicable to gov loans. And those aren't the ones our boys in inv banking deal with.

>>9009605
Personally I would love to have the capital to get some CDS' on those dumbfucks. They even recently got sued by a company for not letting them sell to consumers on an online exchange. So you know they're worried along with this Cayman shit

>>9009497
Nah m8
I am sure those benefited from those loans graduated with distinction in their woman/afro american/didjeridoo studies and are now highly productive and responsible members of society
I won’t bet in them defaulting on their loans

Are you winning dad?

>>9009648
i can smell their fear from here


also, hey is that anon still here that was talking about buying 4wk treasuries? how do you do that? never done a bond auction (though i think i can buy em through schwab, but idk about how liquid their market is). anyone care to point me in the right direction?

>>9009771
your dad is about to have his whole retirement pulled out from underneath him. but im winning

>>9009777
https://abovethelaw.com/2015/10/banks-reach-1-9b-settlement-in-credit-default-swaps-conspiracy-case/

>>9009771
I'm not your real dad go away.

>>9009005
Tears.
t. AAPL bagholder

>>9009497
>AAA rated
>filled with shit

It is literally 2008 all over again

>>9009005
MATTEL
A
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>>9009804
im going to FUD the everloving shit out of all the banks on stocktwits with all the links posted here. those nitwits need to realize what the fuck they have their money riding on. its for their own (and my own) good.

>>9009826
ON THIS EPISODE OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
>CAN DONALD TRUMP PREVENT ANOTHER 2008 FINANCIAL CRISIS?
>WILL THE GOVERNMENT BAIL OUT THE BANKS AGAIN?
>OR IS HE GOING TO CRASH THIS PLANE WITH NO SURVIVORS?
>WILL WELLS FARGO EVER EARN BACK THE TRUST OF THE PEOPLE?
>WILL THE SATANIC JEWISH PEDOPHILE RING RUNNING THE WORLD BE HANGED?
>IS THE MARIJUANA MARKET GOING TO SKYROCKET OR DILUTE?
>IS SLEEPY SESSIONS GOING TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA AT ALL?
>WHEN ARE MY CALLS AND PUTS GOING TO BE GREEN AGAIN?
>WILL PEOPLE REALIZE TESLA IS MAJORLY OVER VALUED?
STAY TUNED

So how do you buy stocks OTC? How does that even happen?

Can stocks steadily outcompete property if a person is willing to put in the effort to do research?

properties in my city feels overvalued atm and I want to rent a cheap room instead, investing the money that wouldve been used for a down payment in stocks.

>>9009872
So buy year-out puts on (((Deutche Bank, Wells Fargo, and Bank of America)))?

>>9009826
https://www.wellsfargoresearch.com/Reports/ViewReport/4b4583c5-fc96-40dc-8add-d2540df8b179?source=WFR.com

Page 16.
>AAA yields increase and riskier BBB/BB decline
hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>9009884
Yes, but only in a good market.

>>9009911
That is probably best.
>>9009874
I wonder if they will try to crash it while he is president to try to make him & his administration look bad or are going to wait until a controlled party is in office. In short, do they want to rob Americans or fuck Trump to then rob Americans with no repercussions? Trump better not allow a bail out of the fucks

>>9009913
Saved thanks

>>9009913
" Primary Loan Market Supply
At $435 billion, loan supply year to date appears to be
very strong, outpacing full-year loan issuance in 2014-
2016 and closing in on 2013 full-year issuance.
However, we believe just looking at primary loan issuance
overstates the supply picture. Year to date, 45% of newissue
loans are for refinancings, recaps or dividends, and
the loan market has grown by just $64 billion year to date "

>$118 billion issuance (around 1/3.7 of that 435 billion btw) in CLOs in 2017 which is expected to shoot up this year to record highs close to 150

>>9008612
sounds like something kneepads would jerk off to

>>9009874
fuckin reruns

>>9009826
see? i told yall i wasnt crazy. i wasnt short banks because they were making too much money. i was short banks because of HOW they were making too much money.

>>9009911
im doing the DB ones atleast cuz theyre cheap

>>9009874
*****spoiler warning*****
>CAN DONALD TRUMP PREVENT ANOTHER 2008 FINANCIAL CRISIS?
thats the FEDs job, and probably not.
>WILL THE GOVERNMENT BAIL OUT THE BANKS AGAIN?
lets PRAY they fucking dont
>OR IS HE GOING TO CRASH THIS PLANE WITH NO SURVIVORS?
dieing in a horrible fiery plane crash is better than they deserve desu. especially after pulling the EXACT SAME SHIT as 08
>WILL WELLS FARGO EVER EARN BACK THE TRUST OF THE PEOPLE?
ha
>WILL THE SATANIC JEWISH PEDOPHILE RING RUNNING THE WORLD BE HANGED?
no
>IS THE MARIJUANA MARKET GOING TO SKYROCKET OR DILUTE?
hes like 80, and from alabama. whaddyouthink?
>IS THE MARIJUANA MARKET GOING TO SKYROCKET OR DILUTE?
they look like they got a little more down to em
>WHEN ARE MY CALLS AND PUTS GOING TO BE GREEN AGAIN?
the ride never ends
>WILL PEOPLE REALIZE TESLA IS MAJORLY OVER VALUED?
lel the poor bondholders have been made painfully aware of it

>>9009877
You need a broker.

>>9009963
>>9010040
>>9010047
HOLD ON FAGS I'M GOING TO BUILD A SPIRIT BOMB FOR SIX EPISODES

>>9010047
forgot pic

>>9009963
https://services.sbcera.org/sirepub/cache/2/qpmn2fhzkef20vuliv3ja1n5/8537604202018025708672.PDF

also worth looking at

>>9010076
that should give us the time we need...

>>9009497
>student loans that are defaultable
As far as I know this is not a thing in the U.S.

A Shit ton of Banks Report on Monday after the bell Any Ideas on which ones to short?

>>9010161
yeah i was thinking that as well. ive only ever heard of people deferring it forever, and then eventually getting their wages garnished. never heard of people defaulting. but then, i dont really normally talk to people about their crushing debt.

>>9006574
Based

>>9010245
gimme some tickers. ill look before i gotta take off

>>9010161
If they could dig up your corpse and have you wage cuck via a system of puppetry strings to pay off remaining student debt, they would.

>>9010294
i was thinking of this the other day. what happens if a student with a shit ton of debt dies? where does that debt go?

>>9010161
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-14/nearly-40-student-loan-borrowers-default-2023
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-20/look-which-students-are-most-likely-default-their-student-debt

>>9010161
>>9010263
If it's not a federal loan it's defaultable guys, this is pretty basic stuff.

>>9010320
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/081815/student-loan-assetbacked-securities-safe-or-subprime.asp

>>9010284
EFSC
FBK
WSFS
BCBP
ITBX
SFNC
BANR
NTB
BHLB
TRST
ELS
((((ZION))))

Guys what happens to the monetary system when crypto gets options contracts? Massive amounts of money will disappear from existence.

>>9010316
Federal loans are forgiven if you die, private student loans will come for your estate but won't come after family members.

>>9010320
i didnt go to cool-edge bruh

>>9010356
sounds like a raw deal. and for a half baked overpriced american education. fuck it man, ill just read a lot of books

>>9010345
are any of these exposed to subprime shit?

>>9010356
>legally transfer all belongings to your wife or family
>elaborate suicide
>(((They're))) are out a hundred thousand dollars
Are legions of Masters-less liberal arts majors committing suicide going to take down the financial system? I feel like this is actually going to kill the global financial system. Which is built on debt. For some reason.

>>9010381
>fuck it man, ill just read a lot of book
That's literally the current state of Uni. 3/4 of the time you are just reading books.

>>9010097
Page 16 worth noting
http://gcfp.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Panel-1-Slides.pdf

>>9010395
no clue I'm going trough every ticker to see which one is trading a a premium.

>>9009826
https://www.carlyle.com/media-room/news-release-archive/carlyle-group-raises-800-million-structured-credit-fund

Guess who else from back in the day is hopping on the boat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOHq5WbQ8k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOHq5WbQ8k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOHq5WbQ8k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOHq5WbQ8k

>>9010449
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-16/-assault-by-biggest-loan-buyers-could-spell-trouble-in-downturn

>>9010432
FBKs daily weeblines look like they will either break or fall back below the cloud hard. im leaning towards down because no one is trading it into ER

>>9010432
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20180416/FINANCE/180419897/goldman-sachs-wall-streets-vampire-squid-buys-clarity

They're going to be issuing some very wholesome AAA CLOs based on the debt they get from this recent acquisition.

>>9010541
http://citywireusa.com/news/goldman-picks-new-pm-for-748m-alts-fund/a1105487

Aw shit guys. Breaking news.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-20/north-korea-to-halt-nuclear-icbm-tests-and-dismantle-testing-site
>North Korea has achieved its goal of developing nuclear weapons and does not plan to conduct further nuclear or intercontinental ballistic missile tests, its state-run media reported, citing leader Kim Jong Un.

>>9010449
>>9010473

lel what the fuck did they think was gonna happen? its literal ninsanity

>>9010432
im sorry lad i gotta split early. gotta load out

>>9010602
https://www.abalert.com/search.pl?ARTICLE=169589

worse

Shit fellas all this CLO student loan stuff has me spooked

>>9010825
Student Loans won't be a problem for another 10 years.

>>9010861
>Student Loans won't be a problem for another 10 years
as long as we know it'll be a problem. I really think it's going to tank housing market, alot of boomers want to sell houses for ridiculous price to people that can't afford it due to student loans