/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>877075
Currently amassing most of the items that aren't worth putting up online for this big ass yard sale my neighborhood has every year. Gonna make some phat scrill on pure junk.

>>877075

So what's the secret to this?

Finding an obscure Chinese supplier for assplugs and making a 60% margin on it through eBay?

eBay skims off nearly 13% with all of their fees, which is a BIG chunk of business.

>>878048
>eBay skims off nearly 13% with all of their fees, which is a BIG chunk of business.

This is what I used to think, allegedly its less if you open even a basic ebay store.

>sold something on ebay
>had to pay outrageous fees
>never used ebay again
>the end

>Buy item on eBay.
>Shipping is 'USPS Priority Mail' and is FUCKING $17.80.
>Send seller a message saying shipping should only cost $8 or so at the absolute most. (I could've shipped this item for $5-6)
>They never respond, I buy it a bit later.
>Seller ships it out FUCKING FEDEX SMART POST.

I'll be leaving a negative ffs.

For any California sellers here, Golden State Overnight does overnight for less than UPS does 3 day if your buyer is also Californian.

>Buyer opens Item Not Received case
>Buyer meant to open Item not described case
>Call eBay
>Tell them to look at tracking
>Case closed in my favor since they can't read Spanish to see the buyer made an error.

>>878054
Store can drop it down to 4% for ebay's cut in certain categories (electronics mainly), or 9% for most (instead of 10%). Top rated gets you a 20% discount off final value fees (so basically 8%). Paypal keeps their $0.30 + 2.9%.

>>878070
Pretty common for sellers to list shipping as higher than it is. They just hope you won't notice. They often take hits to their DSR for it.

Using a shipping type other than what is stated is grounds for a negative (unless it was an upgrade).

>>878057
Literally no one cares about you and never will

>>878132
Then we have this worthless nigger who comes and shits up /biz/ by constantly bragging about how he spends hours on the phone a day crying to screw people over.

Sorry to hear about your nigger dead beat dad not getting enough cab acres to pay for his house Onoh.

Feel free to mass report his listings and steal his boob mousepads.
www.eBay.com/usr/storegames

>in b4 thanks for the free advertising.

>>878120

all of cali is a 1 or 2 day point for ups......

>>878156
GSO is typically cheaper though. Also, a bunch of my in-state packages took the three days.

>>878141
get lost kid, i care.

>>878156
Some people are stupid>

>Guy orders product that ships by first class.
>upgrades to priority express
>$18 upgrade
>guy lives ~3 miles from me
>First class mail is next day for that close

where to find a good supplier?

>>878153

>Screwing people over

Explain?

>>878163
>sell item
>notice the address is in a neighboring town after paying shipping
>it takes three days to arrive
Good ol' USPS. Would have delivered it myself if I caught it on time.

>>878169
>>878163


Actually sometimes packages will go elsewhere before coming back to your state. Also if no tracking, the buyer can say you never delivered it (lol but you know where he lives).

>>878174
Jesus. And I thought a package we ordered that stopped at a city 3 hours south appearing in a city 4 hours north the next day was bad.

Does Ebay have any system in place for detecting shill bidding? Has anyone been busted for shill bidding?

Oh the glory of being a cunt.

> searchin the bay for shit comps to fix n' sell
> find one with a broken trackpad
> retails for $500+ and got for $350
> rubs little jew hands together for a week
> finally get it in the mail
> mfw trackpad works fine

But wait! There's more!

> notice the seller sent wrong computer
> mfw wrong computer is still a gold mine
> though wrong info on ebay is wrong info
> oh? what? jpg? wrong info?
> message seller about wrong info
> say some off the wall shit about how this comp is different than the one listed
> start spewing about linux, dedicated memory, and gentoo
> say i really was looking forward to that computer's gentoo version
> realize seller doesn't know shit about computers
> computer illiterate? prob has a complex? oh? jpg?
> doctor some info seller requested
> seller doesn't know wtf he's looking at
> request a small refund due to complications and disappointments
> mfw I get small refund
> $200 savings turns into $250

>>877075
If I offer free shipping in the price of an item on Ebay, does Ebay make a cut on what I receive for shipping?

why the hell is ebay so bad? i've never sold for profit there, just to unload my old crap. it has irritated the hell out of me sometimes, as has paypal, and these threads are always filled with horror stories. why the fuck does ebay have no serious competitors?
i think cryptocurrencies will replace ebay. an in-wallet auction platform which uses btc instead of paypal. no more being fucked about by the apparently arrogant as fuck owners of ebay.

>>878813
If you're buying, eBay doesn't care.

If you're selling, eBay still doesn't care but will come at you for the slightest thing.


>>878850
>If I offer free shipping
>eBay gets a cut?

What?

>>878872

Yea and there's apps now that are for direct selling (Mercari, etc). It's not even a website, they're just making apps for people to sell and use the money to buy from other sellers. Don't even have to take it out if you don't want to.

Bonanza is getting a new UI like every two months nowadays.

eBid is finally on the Google shopping search results (finally using our money to pay for advertising).

Things are going very well for other sites it seems...

Anyways,

>Another buyer leaves neg without contacting
>Pic related
>Can't call eBay (buyer left at 1:30AM PDT/ eBay closes at 1:00AM).
>Topped lel it off & sleep since I already see a flaw
Now
>Wake up and tell eBay he's in Mexico
>I don't ship to Mexico
>He has an agent in the U.S.
>Feedback removed :^ )

>>878888
>8888
8888

Oh shiiiii

>Can't upload files?

>>878048

It's not that big when you consider you're being exposed to a huge market.

You just need to explore markets that you're interested and try to source however you can.

Also they do give kick backs for established stores too.

>>878070

I'd say that's good explanation to be pissed. I don't think you can get a full refund if you really wanted but sometimes sellers offer partial refund to save some face.

>>878132

Lmfao

>>878872

Looking at a lot of their shareholder meetings it seems that the auction business isn't great for them and they're really trying to shift over to bigger sellers taking over with "buy it now". They'll let small sellers have fun with their auctions but any mistakes and they'll probably lose selling privileges as well their items.

>>878905

is it just me or can you also not upload files?

>>878907
please wait warmly

>>878135
You can actually open a Significantly Not As Described case if the shipping was a cheaper kind than the one you selected and in most cases the shipping gets refunded, granted you paid with PayPal of course.

Also if you become a platinum seller (or whatever it's called atm) ebay will kiss your ass so hard it almost hurts.

>>878888

test

>Buyer opens Item not received case
>Don't know what's going on
>Prepare new shipment for today
>Check again just to be sure
>Delivered

...

>>879271
That was fucking delayed, holy shit. I'd be mad too, not your fault, but sometimes you need to call USPS so they can get the package 'un stuck'

>>879277

Eh, was going to just re-ship seeing it was only worth less than $10.
I seem to always end up with the laziest Felicia every time I call USPS.

Well today's the 2nd, /biz/.


The Bulk shipping tool seems to work exactly like before..

>Buyer buys item that was listed for $20, for $2.00.

eBay, WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO? I relisted, and never changed the price!

Welp, time to visit defect land!

>pretty good at finding treasure in the craigslist free section
>find a free set of wheels off of a 90s BMW
>do some research and find they are pretty rare
>call up guy and bullshit him about having a 90s M3 track car etc etc
>go pick up tires, fucking pristine condition, after taking them home find out they are worth at least low four figures
>wipe them down, take pictures, put on ebay, auction closes at $1200
>box them up with pounds of newspaper and bubble wrap, ship four separate boxes through UPS and pay for insurance
>a week later me and the buyer are trying to figure out where the wheels are
>last update on the UPS site is: "Out for delivery" but they never were delivered
>call UPS, they open an "investigation", etc
>two weeks later figure they are gone, some nigger driver probably stole them, refund buyer he was cool with it
>get a call from the bro-est customer care rep from UPS
>talking to me for nearly an hour about how he loves BMWs and shit and that my wheels were super rare
>tells me he'll do me a solid and fudge the value of the wheels for me if I find the highest price set on the internet and send him the proof
>find a set going on some collector site for $2500
>week later receive $2500 check in the mail from UPS

That was my best find ever

>>879667

>get a call from the bro-est customer care rep from UPS

>sell item at buy now price
>okay awesome
>buyer requests invoice for full price
>what the fuck, its the price listed
>send invoice for same amount
>eBay listings removed - unauthorized user of buyer or bidder account
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, YOU NEED A PASSWORD TO BUY ANYTHING - ITS NOT MY GOD DAMN FAULT THAT YOU HAVE BUYERS REMORSE YOU PIECE OF SHIT
why does amazon not hold buyers accountable for fucking anything

>Have terrible experience with medium sized eBay seller.
>They ask me repeatedly to not leave low DSRs or neutral/negative feedback.
>Tell them I'm going to leave feedback relevant to my experience, and leave neutral.
>Today they offer to pay me $15 to revise.

>tfw $400 /hr today.

feelsGOODman

>Accept buyer's offer within a few minutes.
>They don't pay.
>Send them invoice, and a message later asking them to pay and that I have accepted their offer.
>Still nothing a day later, send them another message asking them to pay.
>Start unpaid item case after 50+ hours.
>They respond with pic related.
>mfw they have 1300+ feedback.
>mfw they claimed I sent them 6 messages, and yet I only sent 2, which were days apart.

I don't even /biz/ I don't even.

>>880535
>right after dusting my air vents
>my sides
Johnny is a fucking boss

>>880535
>messaging a buyer to pay you, ever

Holy shit you're dumb. Now you will receive a 1 star communication. Probably a negative overall.

If they make an offer you accept, you do nothing. If they don't respond after 24 hours, you send an invoice. If they don't respond after 48 hours, you file an unpaid claim.

Nothing productive ever happens in these threads, it's just people bitching about how terrible buyers are. Not sure why we can't go more than a few days without them

>>878165
>buyer leaves legit negative
>you spend hours on the phone trying to convince customer service it was a duplicate account or they didn't know how to use your r-sim

www.eBay.com/usr/storegames

Free advertising Onoh!

>>880594

Love the free adverts, but a mod keeps thinking you're me shilling. lol


Now to answer your bs

>buyer leaves legit negative
>you spend hours on the phone trying to convince customer service it was a duplicate account or they didn't know how to use product


1. How do you know the fb is legit? lol if it was legit, it wouldn't be removed all the time.
I bet you're the same guy that replied to my dummy phone being taken down thread, saying I was selling fake phones...when I literally was selling fake phones.

2. I spend mostly 5min to get a case closed/neg removed, I tell the rep to look at the description and look at the buyer's comments.
>>879266
>"Doesn't work for iPhone 5c, need to change title",
1. Mexican guy is literally saying the thing I sold hundreds of for other iPhone 5cs doesn't work for iPhone 5c. Basically saying every other buyer that left positives is lying.
2. Buyer is in Mexico, I don't ship to Mexico for a reason, because my shit doesn't work in Mexico. lol what are you smoking that I have to explain this to you?
Spam my new personal website next time you're unbanned? :^ )

Anyways

>Canadian raccoon wearer leaves neg without contacting first
880594 doesn't understand how stupid it is to blame someone without contacting them first.
>Canadian says he broke my product
>Clearly he tried stuffing the thing inside his phone the wrong way
>Doesn't contact first where I could've sent another or helped fixed
>Call eBay
>Tell them how dumb buyer is
>FB removed 2min ago

Canadian's fb is filled with negs, seems he does this a lot.

>Browse eBay for NHL game pucks to re-sell
>Stumble upon Boston Bruins 1994-95 "The Final Season" at Boston Garden OGP
>Notice price is unusually low...
>HOLY SHITBALLS, ONLY $3.00!!!
>Look at seller profile, only 14 total transaction feedback, what a noob.
>Read item listing, ALL MINT IN BOX, still shrink-wrapped!
>Still sealed AFTER TWENTY YEARS
>Generous shipping rate, $5.75 per item
>Buy all that the rookie seller has in stock (i.e. TEN SEALED Boston Garden OGPs with shadow box
>Combined shipping is reasonable, $8.95
>Total is $38.95, essentially $4 per puck for the lot of ten
>Looked up closed listings for sale prices of same item
>One sold earlier this year for nearly $99, another currently listed at $60
>top kek at exploiting another seller's inexperience on eBay
>Looking forward to selling each puck at a premium... $94.95 much?

pic related for spoils acquired

>>880874

>earlier this year

Might take a while before you sell all of those, you might end up having to do what the seller did.

>>880535
Kek fucking johnny

>>880874

I do this all the time.

>tfw bought something for $45 earlier this year that sold for $350

Keywords and descriptions make all the difference.

>>880881

This. Quick 50 cents is better than a slow dollar. Why? Because your money isn't tied up and you can use it to make more money.

Why don't my buyers leave feedback? How can I ask for feedback without coming across as snarky?

>>881224

You don't...

I mean who would really want to fill out this thing for every...single...purchase.
eBay keeps making everything worse.

>>881248
I do it for every purchase. It takes literally 10 seconds. Maybe because I don't waste time writing "BEST FUCKEN EBAY SELLER CUNT IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WILL DO BUSINESS AGAIN VERY HAPPY".

Any practical advice for someone who is a noob at selling?
Pls respond

>>881314
lol most people just copy/paste, but all that clicking...feels like a chore rather than a quick review.
Almost makes me feel like I'm reviewing the product/shipping company and not the seller.

>"iPhones suck, Android is better, USPS took forever to arrive, they usually come at 1PM"

Those are the types of comments you get from this type of system.

>buy something
>check tracking
>Brazil

Then I found out there's a Brazil in Indiana.

>Selling my old Transformers
>decide to use the new ebay Global Shipping partner as I can't be fucked to deal with it myself
>Someone contacts me about one of my items
>He says your shipping is too high
>Tell him shipping cost is out of my hands as it is set 100% by Global Shipping Partner
>Also say if he doesn't like it, don't bid.
>He bids
>Doesn't pay
>Files case for excessive postage

I know he won't win but for fucks sake

Just finalized my first FTL shipment. $63,000 worth of merch coming from Taiwan. All private label and custom manufacturing.

Partner is in for 50%, no loans. Realistically expect to clear 150k within 1 year. More if I can generate some good local interest (fuck online fees).

Already thinking of some similar products I can can have made to sell. Downside is that with ~32k tied up in product from my personal account, I will need to take a loan out for them.

>>880778

Nice try, its a mod responding to your report.

I've seen your feedback. You just tell the cs that it's a duplicate account trying to leave you negative feedback.

Its too bad your website violates godaddy's rule on adult content.
I'm on a dynamic IP just like you. Bans don't affect me.

>>881660

I'm on my phone because I need to upgrade to a 5GHz receiver for my modem.

lol so you're saying J-List is going against GoDaddy as well? :^ )

and don't tell me you think eBay is that dumb, every seller would be able to do the same thing if it was that easy.

I'm guessing your twin already tried doing what you plan on doing, lol this isn't eBay bro.

Though, DDoSsing is something you can look into? :^)

>>881660
>>881670
Godaddy does allow for adult content if you purchase of of their premium hosting packages.

I got a warning email from them a couple years ago because one of the ad services I used had adult friend finder ads showing up on my page.

Also godaddy fucking sucks. Do yourself a favor and switch to hostgator or namecheap. Both are much better than godaddy. Godaddy doesn't even give you whoisguard for free.

>>881705


Shieee, I should've asked /g/.

lool it was only $60 for one year, with the whole Paypal/Credit card system included into the website template.

I had HostGator in mind since it had the one click install for Magento, looked really confusing so I pulled out.

I'll just move over after the year

>>881707
>I'll just move over after the year

Make sure you do.

>That price after their introductory rates.

>>881527
This is amazing if it's true

How can someone be that slow...

>>881644
inb4 the Taiwan factory sells shit similar to yours with pennies markups

>>881836
I've checked into it. It's a custom fabrication plant and they don't actually sell anything directly online. The real issue is them selling to a Chinese re-seller in bulk. It will happen at some point, the trick is to get your product out there and established well enough that by the time they get around to it, you're far ahead. Plus my partner is a lawyer, and part of the agreement is that he police the shit out of listings. VeRO takedowns up the ass.

eBay gets BTFO by Good Morning America.

https://gma.yahoo.com/ebay-disclosed-sellers-personal-information-bidders-change-practice-122550517--abc-news-personal-finance.html
1. Scammers literally just overbid on new seller's iPhones then pull info to call after they win
>I'll give you $1,200 + another $400 check for you to ship it to Europe, my grand grand sand son really needs it for his education.
>Buyers end up getting scammed or asking the same question on the eBay boards everyday.
eBay's Solution: Pay for more reps to ban those types of accounts


2. Trolls/Butthurties make bogus accs to shit post
>lololol, I have your phone number now, (lol)
eBay's Solution: Pay even more reps


Instead of fixing the problem every seller has asked since day 1.

lol, seriously though what justifies leaving someone's info out in the open?
>25millon

Feelsgood transferring money to your bank for no reason :^ )

Here I thought I'd miss working at the mall...

>>881732

I swear to christ it's true, I'm dealing with this shit right now.

eBay still has squashed the case for whatever reason and I'm starting to raise an eyebrow.

They can't be even fucking considering agreeing with the buyer right?

Since the shipping price was set by their own affiliate, right?

I'm sure it's just slow as shit shitty service is all.

>>882875

still hasn't***

It's still open I meant

>>882875
>>882877


You might want to consider calling instead, much easier as most case handlers don't even read the disputed comments.

Just sold a bunch more auctions.

My highest went for £270 in the dying seconds.

>Two hours later.
>Sorry I can't afford to pay for this

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

>>878048

>13%
>in return for an easy to use platform with access to tens of millions of customers worldwide, with millions of dollars worth of multi platform advertising done for you, with a service that is a worldwide household name

I know man, what a rip off.

>be german
>buy something from an american high rated seller on 01.08.15
>Item didn't arrive
>open a case
>have to contact ebay again by the 10th of september if I'm not content with the sellers response
>ebay will close my request on the 3rd of october if i don't respond

This is my first time opening a case and I'm not sure what do to. At this point I just want my money back since I'm 100% sure the item won't arrive. What should I do now? Should I simply contact ebay and tell them I'm not content with the answer? I'm not too fond of discussing this matter with one of the stores ''managers''. What happens if I dont answer ebay by the 10th september?

The seller send this answer:
''Thank you very much for letting us know and sorry you have still not received your order. For international packages that take longer than 31 days, we do offer to locate the customs label number that is recorded with the post office and used by international post offices. Your package customs label number is:XXXXXX Please note that this is NOT a tracking number and the post office is not required to track your package with this number, especially in international territories. International packages are normally delivered within 14-21 days. However if it has taken longer than 30 days, some have had success contacting their local customs office using the customs label number. Should you not receive your package by 45 days, please let us know and we will inform a manager to help resolve this issue. Thank you. Best Regards, Ideal808 Inc“''

Guys I've been running a little business that involves custom silver and gold necklaces. I'm doing pretty much nothing and making about $100 per silver necklace.
it pretty much goes like this
>get 10 customers
>Guy 1 sends molds to people to personalize
>People send molds to Guy 2, who makes the necklaces and sends them back
>I pay guy 1 and guy 2 , get my share

The thing is I'm getting lazy, how do I make this grow ?

>>883995

>01.08.15

I'm guessing you meant 08/01/15

Either your package is lost or stolen, the tracking # they gave you probably starts with LJ, these types of tracking don't usually get scanned because they're the cheapest way of shipping packages internationally and most countries just do it just to be nice. Should've asked the seller to register the pckg ($13 or so). Most postal thieves don't steal those, because USPS actually has to pay out for those packages, so of course they'll look into where it is/prioritize it so it won't even be stolen.

Either way, if the package doesn't arrive or show "delivered/customs update", you can win the case.

>>884010
This sounds like an Etsy issue

Anyways

Another drop shipping buyer from DR
>Buys item saying he's in FL
>Ship
>2 weeks later sends me message in Spanish saying it doesn't work
>Don't respond because it's not in English so I'm not obligated
>Leaves neg
>Call eBay
>"Don't ship to DR"
>Show Buyer's profile/message
>Negbegone

>>884046
>I'm guessing you meant 08/01/15

yes, thats what i meant.

Thanks for your response.

I think I should wait until september 10th and then contact ebay. Waiting even longer and letting one of the stores managers handle it doesn't seem like a good option. They will probably start talk about a partial refund or something like that and I don't want to wait 2 or 3 weeks to get my money back.

What would you do? I just fear that ebay will side with the seller because their response was nice.

>>884069


No problem

For one, I don't buy anything international with USPS, DHL/FedEx/UPS/TNT is the way to go.

In your case I'd wait it till the 10th, then write in the disputes:

"I contacted my postal office and they too said they don't have the package. Is it lost?"

Don't try acting smart like you know it's lost, eBay will think you're a scammer seeing that you already know what might be going on. Just play it dumb since it's not even your fault the package is lost/stolen/delayed.

If you are really looking to get your money, call in after you have said that and escalated the case, telling eBay that you've now contacted the customs office and they too don't have it. They should either close the case in your favor right there and then or tell you to wait (they'll note the case on their end).

lol now if I was the seller you'd be fugged either way, so let's hope this seller doesn't know how to react.

No need to get specific, but where do you guys find inventory to sell? Chink distributor websites? Goodwill/thrift stores? Off of stupid people on Craigslist?

>>884082
>lol now if I was the seller you'd be fugged either way

Now I'm interested. What would you do as the seller?

I thought about it again. I wouldn't mind waiting for the money as long as I actually get it. I will just contact ebay on the 10th and see how it goes.

>>884110

>Disclosing my anti-scam secrets to the mysterious "Four Chan"?

I'm better off handing over my items to goodwill + the gas I used to get there

>>884105

You can find the weirdest things in Obama's dumpster

>>884113
It kind of sucks that you could fuck the buyer over even if he is not a scammer.

I didn't even do anything wrong. The item didn't arrive and I just want my money back. People are always saying that eBay is way too pro-buyer.

>>884123

Oh they are,

>>881989
(Amazon thread)

The seller actually has no power, if a buyer really played their cards right, they'd be able to scam a seller 100%.

Then again the seller has their Paypal, so they have their info, crazy people nowadays amirite?

>>878070
>Asshole lists USPS flat rate
>Ships using DHL Global
>Because not USPS gets drop-shipped 12 days late to local PO instead of regional sort facility
>Misses forward
>Lost fucking package
>1 month later seller asks why not positive
Because you're lying whores. Refund and I *may* upgrade to a neutral.

>>878070

I hate people like you and it's the reason why all of my listings are "free shipping" now so you idiots think you're getting a free deal.

>sorry by lowest price + shipping
>buy the lowest priced one

You're not paying $17.80 for shipping, you're paying 17.80 + item cost for the item. If you don't think the item is worth that, then you don't buy it.

Seriously, it's not that hard.

>>878877
Sorry. I retard.

I have item for 50 bucks. I ship flat rate for 17.90 bucks.

I say "free shipping". I price item at 67.90 bucks w free shipping.

Does Ebay get a percentage of 50 or 67.90?

Sorry for retard way of stating issue earlier.

>>884389
They get percentage on the total amount.

>>884278
u r dumb lol

>post item
>get 5 views after a few days
What am I doing wrong? It seems to be a decent selling item. I take the description from Amazon or the website and make the title whatever the item is. I imagine it's because I have no rep, but this is torture

>>884520
you need more keywords in the tittle max that shit out sun use all characters, copy sold similar item titles

shiggy diggy

>>884463

Yes. Used to they didn't fee shipping costs but they stopped that a few years ago. No reason at all to do shipping costs with fixed price now because of that. Just work it into the price.

>Not changing your eBay and PayPal phone number to a Google Voice number.

feelsgoodman

here's my almost successful story

I bought a 10$ floppy disk that contains music software builder or somthg and I found on craig list a crazy announcement that where the annoucer says that he's ready to pay the vendor's price. But when i called him i asked him like ..........$ and found out that he's ready to pay only 10 bucks

I could of negociate like up to 100 but i was to lazy for that :p

>>885259


That has nothing to do with eBay, but congrats on your bus fair.

>>877075
>be young guy
>sell videogames on ebay with a buddy
>make some flea market runs, buy cheap sell high. Smash Bros is where the money's at.
>goes bretty well, make a few hundred bucks each without much work
>take hiatus.
>get one bad review from some idiot
>I don't remember if it's because of the bad review or just an update, but suddenly we can only sell like 5 items a month with a net worth lower than 100.
>Pissed, we call customer service.
>they tell us that next month we can sell 10 items and $150 dollars worth or something.
>split between two people this is a pittance over such a long time. Not worth the work.

So we said fuck it, ebay's not worth the effort. We listed some of our items on half.com and there wasn't any BS but only a few things sold.

>>885309

You probably came in when the Don-Da-Hoe came into town, guy pretty much took a shit on eBay and hopped over to Paypal.

He's the one that took away seller's privileges to leave negative feedbacks on bad buyers, defect system, etc.

New guy looks like he might be able to bring things back...

>Newly appointed CEO Devin Wenig said in an interview Thursday that eBay would focus on getting back to its roots by building a website for mom-and-pop retailers to sell their goods -- whether it be refurbished electronics from the garage or a line of boutique designer clothes.

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_28492633/ebay-sells-enterprise-unit-tops-profit-expectations

>>885322
>>885322
That's awesome news, maybe we'll actually be able to do some worthwhile selling now.

>>885322

I would really like that but it's a tough system for them to build.

Their main cash flow is having big box sellers sell new buy it now items on their listings. Auctions and used items usually require more customer support and also provide more opportunities for buyers to have bad experiences.

>>885348

Exactly, seeing all over the eBay forums that people are saying auctions are dead. Seems buyers like BIN items better, eBay had something going but they wanted to be Amazon so bad...

>>885359
Auctions are dead because eBay strangles traffic to them.

They signed contracts with big box retailers guaranteeing a certain level of sales. Can't meet those metrics naturally so they divert search results. Unfortunately, can't meet those metrics if customers don't actually want what big box retailers are selling either. And if customers aren't finding what they want, sooner or later they start shopping elsewhere.

I think when the end comes for eBay, it'll be swifter than anybody thinks. But right up until it happens, eBay will look fine and people will believe they're fine.

>>885526

I've already starting to move on myself, Mercari and other apps like it will win over all the small sellers eBay keeps fucking over, (by not protecting them from scammers).

So many normies not knowing the value of their phones sell on these apps, because the app lets them use their balance to shop. Perfect for people that don't even own a bank/etc.

lol I realized it was lucrative after I bought my 6+ for only $400, while on eBay it goes for $600.

Now I just check every hour and flip iPhones for hundreds.

I've already starting to move on myself, Mercari and other apps like it will win over all the small sellers eBay keeps fucking over, (with ridiculous fees/giving out sellers info).

So many normies not knowing the value of their phones sell on these apps, because the app lets them use their balance to shop. Perfect for people that don't even own a bank/etc.

lol I realized it was lucrative after I bought my 6+ for only $400, while on eBay it goes for $600.

Now I just check every hour and flip iPhones for hundreds.

>>885526

Like seriously, eBay could even take over the digital trade market if they actually listen to the sellers.
I swear it's as if they want to crash and burn...

Take for instance pic related

>Seller puts CoC acc
>Has to put "Paper clip w/CoC acc"

Because the buyer can fuck them over since they're not selling a physical item.
eBay could fix that like Sythe does or Runescape gold selling sites do.

>>885322

Probably too late already - half the buyers already defected to amazon

>>885570

and these ads (paid for by Amazon of course) is making eBay look like shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G4yiO1Cmv4

(Skip to 3:20/ Start at 3:00 to cringe)

"My friend"...

>>885562


lol going back to my other post about Mercari, it's full of scammers as well. Sellers trying to get the better of buyers by asking for their numbers to do offline transactions (like eBay), except eBay actually gives it to scammer. Really easy to tell if it's a fake listing, sometimes I get lucky and it's not.

I just like fucking with them even though I know the sale might be bogus.
I let them know before they even start. I'd say 1/3 ends up being a scam.
At least I can get a couple of accs banned this way.

>She/it's talking about money being released to her, when the buyer rates the purchase is when the seller gets the money :^ ) if the buyer doesn't rate, it's released automatically after 3 days. lol they wanted me to cancel the transaction so a mod wouldn't step in (goes to show who's the scammer here).

Gosh!

>>885562
lol going back to my other post about Mercari, it's full of scammers as well.
Sellers trying to get the better of buyers by asking for their numbers to do offline transactions (like eBay),
except eBay actually gives it to scammer. Really easy to tell if it's a fake listing, sometimes I get lucky and it's not.

I just like fucking with them even though I know the sale might be bogus.
I let them know before they even start. I'd say 1/3 ends up being a scam.
At least I can get a couple of accs banned this way.

>She/it's talking about money being released to her, when the buyer rates the purchase is when the seller gets the money :^ )

If the buyer doesn't rate, it's released automatically after 3 days. lol they wanted me to cancel the transaction so a mod wouldn't step in (goes to show who's the scammer here).

Gosh!

Ban hammer is heavy today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdh0TeGNsTw

We sell expensive custom items and our listings are buried by universal chinese shit that they've uploaded tens of thousands of listings for that are listed as custom fit.

None of it sells because no one buying our items would ever, ever consider this shit outside of a joke gift for a friend.

Also we can have a product sit unsold for 6 months, and if it sells once, we will sell another 2-3 within the next week, then it will die again.

We are completely at the mercy of ebays search algorithm just like trying to get traffic from google.

Time to try Amazon I suppose.

>>885648

Same goes for Amazon, but once you get a few sales your listing/sku should move up. If it's already up by other sellers then you're all set.

People will see the shipping speed, as it's shown when checking out. They'll come running to you when they find out they have to wait two weeks from China :^ )

>>885655
The problem is the chinese ship their shit from long beach and ebays expected ship date is patchy at best from what I've seen

It's not that their shit is selling ,its that it's flooding the search results with what is basically spam.

We are also holding off on amazon until we can sort out ecommerce<>quickbooks<>shipping integration.

There's a million different 'apps' that claim to do it, but once you remove cloud based malware that wants access to your QB company file over the internet and forced use of their own fedex acc for shipping you are left with ones that charge thousands extra a year because you have more than one computer and ecommerce 'channel'.

One I looked at today is three times more expensive if you use QB enterprise over pro. With zero extra features...

>>885661

Shieeeee

What I hate most is how the big guys are teaming up with (UPS/FedEx/DHL) to use their shitty slow shipping services that has USPS involved. Saves you a lot as a seller but holy shit how can a business really think waiting 1 week for something to go from shipping company to shipping company sounds like something a buyer would like?

and I bet the only companies getting these deals are the Chinese who opened up shop in the U.S.
just like they did with ePacket with eBay/China.

>>885671
you mean like how amazon and others shipped all their stuff in giant oversized boxes to the point that UPS and Fedex started charging on cubing, which made most peoples freight go up around 30%, only to turn around and give amazon a exemption on the new cubing charges for a year?

>>885678

Oh no no that's a different story, I'm talking about the end game of how they ship to the customers.


>Pic related

Basically they ship USPS packages through FedEx/UPS/DHL (like Amazon's FBA/ Pitney Bowes), and these types of packages aren't moving as fast as a priority mail would, not even a first class. So what's the point of it?

It's as if they make sure the regular mail (Express/First Class/etc) goes first and then they deal with these.

It's basically a private company working with USPS (the govt), and by the looks of this new snail mail that came in 2013 or so, it's saving both the seller + these shipping companies a ton.

I wouldn't care, but really...look at this shit. If it was going from N to E it would've taken up to a week, while First Class takes 2-3 days. Chinese really run everything over here...

>Hey can you stay home and look out for the DHL truck, I have a package coming in
>"Sure"
>Waits outside on the 29th, USPS drops off normal mail
>"Hello postman, have a good day"
>Still waiting for DHL
>Go pickup regular USPS mail from mailbox
>Package is in there
>Still waiting for DHL thinking they have two packages

lol you get my point...this shit is stupid, confuses buyers but most sellers don't even care to reply anymore.

>>885683
>>885685
I meant in general how you said the bigger guys screw over the smaller businesses.

I only use regional box A on priority mail for one of our products since fedex can't come close on price and I've never bothered to look at the tracking number. No one has ever complained about the postage time though.

>stupidly sell xbox live codes and send codes through email

>lose a couple hundred and deal with dozens of scammers and chargeback cases for a few months

>the constant refunding and paypal cases fuck my account over with Below Standard rating

>sell a couple of items just fine but not enough to overturn the BS rating so ebay decides to permanetely ban my account from selling

How do I into stealth accounts? My shitty IP (Time warner) is static so I figure I will have to go to my local library and start a new eBay account on my laptop and make listings there.

>>885694

Yea normal FedEx is fine, it's when you use Smart Post that you're fucking over the buyers.

Weekend orders + holiday, not even halfway done packing...

>Feelsg00d

>>885964
what do you sell m8, i'm uber jelly right nao

>>883882
Well, you know where the cunt lives now. Fuck his shit up.

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>>886542
lol it's just a non-paying buyer, that should be the least of your worries.

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>>886542
lol it's just a non-paying buyer, that should be the least of your worries

Facebook just showed me a targeted ad of an item I just sold, really gives me confidence in their advertising.

>>886673

They're just playing you, try it again without being on your own IP.

>first ever negative feedback today
>completely disingenuous feedback
>look the bitch up on normiebook
>single fucking mom with 5 KIDS WHAT THE FUCK
I HATE WOMEN SO FUCKING MUCH THEY ARE CHILDREN IN ADULT FUCKING BODIES BITCH CANT EVEN READ A PRODUCT DESCRIPTION OR LOOK AT PICTURES BUT TAKEES THE TIME TO FUCK UP MY 100% POSITIVE FEEDBACK GOOD THING I KNOW WHERE SHE LIVES :) :) :) :) :)

>>886784

I think I found the culprit.

>>886825
honestly so fucking disgusting makes me want to throw up. only way it could be worse if it one was half nig

i turned 10 cents into $1000 in 6 trades.

No bullshit like the red paper clip fag. ebay search my username.
i've been sitting on $1000 ever since because what can i buy that i can flip for 2k+ ?.

i need to do this 30 times to be rich but
by the way im homeless so i just need to make this into at least $300,000

please help.

>>887071
>i turned 10 cents into $1000 in 6 trades.

Thats pretty cool.

>>887071
Trading your body for money doesn't count as a trade ya bum

i was talking about ebay you little shit trollcunt,
the thought would never cross my mind.. but now it has..
fuckit, i should take your mom down to the corner and get her working, so i can have a roof over my head (you know, the things dickwads like you take for granted, and the thing i dont have). now that was funny ha fucking ha. eat a dick. you failfuck.

>>887117
>>887071
eat shit and die tripfag

>Get notification that my item has taken down
>Misuse of brand name
>Description: Fits Brand X model Y
>Call eBay
>Since it fits more than 1 model, you have to list it as universal


Yeah, that makes total fucking sense eBay, I'm clearly using search manipulation to tell my customer what it fits.

>in b4 next week it gets taken down because it's not actually a universal product.

>>887214
>talk to three CS reps
>all tell me to relist without mentioning brand name
>"How will they know what it fits?"
>Your customers will know what it fits
>"So, will you give me your personal extension and remove every negative feedback I get from the item?"
>I can't do that, sir
>"So how do I list what products it fits..."
>You can't include it in the title...
>"So, you're telling me that the 2.5 million listings with iphone case in the title are against you ToS?"
>No, they can include it because they're telling the customer what product they fit
>"I need to talk to your supervisor"

Supervisor was just as useless, connected me to India who had no idea what was happening, who in turn connected me to the listing department who told me the listing was totally fine since it's telling the customer what it fits.

Two hours of my life gone, will probably have to deal with it again in a week.

>>887299

They are all in India bro, lol try getting a U.S. rep on the line. Once you do, tell them what you told the Indian rep and tell them to put a note on your listing on their end. This way if anyone (Indian probably) that's looking for bad listings tries to take it down again, they'll see an American rep notated that it's fine.

>Pic related
Happened to me a lot when I started, lol sold over 600 of an item and it was taken down for "Keyword Spamming". When every other listing had the same title as me...

I didn't know at the time I could just call up an American rep to get it reinstated with the "600 Sold" so my dumb self started a new listing at (0) sold. My competitor at the time had the same number of sold as me, now he's a constant 500 ahead of me till this day, even though his listings are on the 3rd page now :^ )

>>887299
Isn't your problem because the IP holder is leaning on Ebay to treat this particular brand name this way?

iPhone cases get off the hook cause Apple don't care.

>The agreement forbids eBay from creating its own payments system, and PayPal from developing a marketplace for selling merchandise

So what the fuck is this?


>http://www.wsj.com/articles/ebay-paypal-offer-new-details-on-planned-split-1428612663

>>887319
>They are all in India bro

It's pretty easy to get an American rep on the line if you call the right number. You can find it if you dig enough.

They also cannot reinstate a listing with sales history. At least not at the customer service supervisor level. Don't care enough to start calling managers about it.

>>887322
Yeah it was, I got them to fax me a copy of it. The company demanded that ebay take down the listings that featured their name on OEM parts. There were 800+ listings taken down because the parts are "universal". The item I sell is custom stamped in the US for me alone, it only fits that brands products.

The guy (the other reps were all women) in the listings dept understood what I was getting at and said it was fine, and suggested a couple alterations. He was about the nerdiest sounding guy I've ever heard.

Is it worth picking up items on special @ sales and whatnot and then reselling them on ebay?

>>887355

Odd, it happened again and I was able to get everything put back. Must've been who I spoke with at the time.

>>887362
You're talking about flipping, yes it's possible if you know what sells.

Don't be one of those redditors that buys Frozen dolls/etc from Toys-Rus/Walmart and returns the ones they couldn't sell.

>>887374
>Don't be one of those redditors that buys Frozen dolls/etc from Toys-Rus/Walmart and returns the ones they couldn't sell.
kek. What kind of a discount would I need to find to be profitable given eBay's fees and shipping costs generally?

What the fuck is this shit?
>Hi mate, glad I won your item. Please email me at (xxx) condition of the item I will be going for an appointment now and will be able to access my email from my iPhone, so email (xxx) me the item number as the subject, Also add your PayPal email cheers'

this piece of shit needs to pay the amount that he agreed to? what the fuck is a "Payment Total Requested"?? The price is clearly fucking listed.

>>887374
>Odd, it happened again and I was able to get everything put back. Must've been who I spoke with at the time.

Did they delete your listing? They just ended mine. I've tried twice in the past two with supervisors and they said it's not possible. I've read online about people who have had their listings taken down for incorrect VeRO violations having them reinstated. I've never gotten a genuine take down though, just competitors reporting my stuff to try and get an edge.

I might dig deeper if it happens again.

>mfw they took down 90%+ of the OEM listings so I am now number 3 in the category overall.

>>887389
He's trying to get you to sell it to him outside ebay for less money.

Just send him the invoice and tell him you'll wait until he can get back from his appointment.

>>887423
thats what im doing but its just gonna end up not paid and ebay wont do dick about it

>>887406

Ohhh you're talking about deleted listings, lol yea you're fucked on that one.
I've yet to get a deleted listing re-instated.

But if it's just an ended listing (eBay ends it instead of deleting it), you should be fine reinstating it.

Most sellers have everything backed up on their InkFrog accounts/etc.

>>887376
Idk man I'm not one of those Black Friday Bunduru/Sell Monday type of sellers

>Black Bundaroo

Alright guys heres the problem. I got a 125 of an item to sell on ebay, and they have been selling meh, a couple a month. First for 50 a piece then all the way down to 19.99 each, with free shipping. I get them for 12 and shipping costs me at minimum 6 bucks so there is 100% no way I can compete on price.

What the fuck do I do now? I have 90 items that sell for basically what I got them for, which is stupidly cheap.

>>887647


You wait for someone to buy two at a time like every other seller

>>887647
Last year's stock?

>>887671
>>887684

no the other supplier has hundreds of them in a high item listing. Some fucker with 120k+ feedback

>>887684
nah I only got them a few months ago

>>887690
>nah I only got them a few months ago
Yes but isn't this the end of year/tax time sales?
I.e. when everyone is clearing out this year's stock for next?

>>887690

So?

Some people would rather buy from small seller than a big one, look at what I said >885683

Buyers are starting to realize that most big time sellers ship using Smart Post (1 week+ delivery) while charging the same as small sellers that ship with regular First Class (2-3 days).

If your ad isn't shit and your feedbacks are okay, I'd buy from you instead.

>>886825
>moving from Oregon
fucking good, one less fat bitch in my state

Any tips for sourcing a decent products to sell?

I have bought on Alibaba and DHGate before and it seems fairly easy to negotiate with the Chinese, but what the actually sell?

High frequency items? High or low value?

The market seems so saturated that you're going to make a tiny margin on any product that has a hope of selling more than once per month.

Would I have trouble selling a bigish item without any sales before (like a laptop for instance)?

>>887784
>Dark Bay:Prepare to get Scammed Edition
Your odds of having a problem are great if you're a new seller selling something big or expensive($50+). I'd keep it local.
>>887750
Try, TRY, to research sourcing yourself, any tips would be like giving money away. As so many times repeated, find a niche item.

>>887926
>I'd keep it local.
Like CL or something?

>>887750

I've been doing it since early two-thousands, Ebay Bible strategies with flipping, Drop-Ship etc..

Yeah it's saturated right now.. Volume strategies with big investment risk are all that has decent margin now..

>there is a nice alternativ to ebay
>italians are now flooding it with dirt cheap prices

They are offering everything for around half of the actual price. FUCK ITALIANS!

Getting chargeback scammed hard selling crap and they kept what I shipped, their money, and I got hit with a fee. Why is this still a thing?

>>887376

One that fits your margins? We know Ebay + Paypal will take about 13% at most of your final sale price. Shipping costs are harder to estimate because we don't know what you're selling and for how much.

>>887750

You either find something that hasn't been sourced yet or you go private label and create your own shit.

The people that are selling off of those sites do a ton of volume to scrape every extra penny they can get. You're most likely not going to be able to compete with that.

>>887784

I'd say so. Scammers tend to be prevalent in popular expensive electronic markets. Phones, laptops, video game consoles, etc. If they see you with no feedback they're more prone to open up a case against you.

>ebay update

Defect rate: A new simplified defect rate will include just seller-cancelled transactions and cases that are closed without seller resolution. The following will no longer impact your defect rate:

Buyer feedback, including negative and neutral
Detailed seller ratings (DSRs)
Items not as described requests (including returns) that are successfully resolved with your buyer
Items not received requests that are successfully resolved with your buyer

Sounds nice, something finally improving.

>Continues

Starting May 1, 2016, to earn the Top Rated Plus discount and benefits, listings must offer a minimum 30-day return policy with money back*. We understand this means some sellers will have to change their selling practices but it's an important step in making sure Top Rated Plus listings provide service that today's buyers expect—and that we reward those sellers who deliver it.

>>889016
I like the defect change but the 30 Day return is asinine. I sell mostly video games and people can burn through a game in under a week. The discount only saves me about $20-$40 a month at most. Goodbye TRS.

>>889972
Yeah, a couple of my items are going to be exempt from the TRS rating now. On the bright side, I have enough items that will keep me Top Rated, plus it doesn't do in effect until May 2016.

>>890071

So you'd let some items leave TRS status because of the increase in days?

Can't you just bulk edit their shipping in the /bizpolicy settings?

I'm going to hate revising every item's description from 14days to 30.

>>890134
1 for sure. I already have a higher return rate on it than I would like. It's a specialty tool, people use it and return it. I would guess that doubling my return time would probably increase returns on the item above 10%.

The rest of my stock I don't care enough, I actually have 30 day return on most of my items right now for the search boost.

>>890153


>For the search boost

I need to look into this

>>890160
Rumored obviously. Since eBay doesn't reveal it's search algorithm. I think it must be true because I was number one in a search for over a year and all of a sudden some guy passed me in search, had less sold, less recent sold, newer (but not brand new) listing, and only had his a penny cheaper and longer return.

Also ebay sent out a new promo for their birthday. Free 20 listings plus a 20% final value fee credit for anything listed between now and Sept 14th. Single item listings only.

>>890339

Yea I don't pay any mind to their promos, everything I sell is BIN.
People keep buying into it and forget we still have problems.


Thinking about it now, I wouldn't mind having a 30 day on 90% of my items, doesn't seem like anyone would return it.

I just wish eBay would stop pushing my Chinese competitors above me, even though they clearly have a low DSR score or even a bellow average selling account on top, not even adding their shipping speeds.

I mean think of it...they don't show German sellers, they don't show Italian, European, etc...

Just CHINESE! If that's not a dead give away of what's going on, I don't know...

>>890351
I always look at their promos. Extra free listings every month are nice. I buy auction lots in my spare time for something to do. I'll gladly take an extra 20% off. I'll probably get screwed and they won't stack it with my TRS discount.

Anyone know what happens if you don't pay your monthly seller fee's by ebays deadline?

>>891501


Your acc gets suspended, they're still going to try and take it out.

Paypal will keep trying to take the money out of your bank/card. If it keeps getting denied, your paypal will go negative. If you don't pay up, your PP will be suspended and you will start getting calls from collections :^ )

During all of this, you won't be able to buy anything with Paypal. Don't think about making a new acc, it will be shut down quicker than you can buy something. Also if you don't have the money in your bank acc, you'll be hit with $35 overdraft fee everytime Paypal tries to take the money out. Sometimes twice a day.

>>891511
I sure as hell don't want to start getting collection calls. So this is typical for anyone, new sellers/ TRS sellers/ anyone else owing ebay $?

I'll probably end up selling enough shit cheap and fast to pay them on time if this is the case.

>>891519


Well hell yea, imagine being a titanium seller or whatever. Sell over 50k in a month and bail? lol you owe eBay 5k+.

You should be more worried about your bank and the over draft fees. When I started I was an idiot, good thing my banker was same nationality. Ended up being charged a lot just in bank fees, only paid about 0.5/10th at the end.

>>891523
>>891523
>same nationality
glad that worked out for ya. I've nearly left banks over bullshit overdraft fees, I am worried about it but at least know it'd be entirely my fault. Having to deal with collection agencies is another story, haven't had the pleasure of dealing with them before, and hearing reports over the years of them doing whatever the fuck they want to get you to pay up.

Strange to be in this situation, feels like handing over the schoolyard bully the 25 cents he claims you owe him everyday, and one day you forget and he puts you in a chokehold. Slip up once and they make your life a living hell.

>>891537


lol they called me while I was leaving class, I was like "uhh, hey I'll pay it next week or so".

The annoying part is that it's several companies contacting you at once, they want you to pay them because they get a percentage of your money when they send it to whoever you owe.

Also my banker is like me so he understood clearly and helped me out...over...and over again.

>>891501
>Anyone know what happens if you don't pay your monthly seller fee's by ebays deadline?

Well they deduct it from your paypal account. You agreed to automatic deductions. So they will pull it out of your funding account, and if they don't work, your backup account. On the bright side, if you owe them like $6, they're just going to suspend your account, they're not going to start collections on you for it, it would cost them 10x that to do so. Also if your fee is less than $1, ebay carries it over. So if you list items using your free listings, you won't owe them shit unless you sell something, in which case they will take the profits as payment.

>>891537
>hearing reports over the years of them doing whatever the fuck they want to get you to pay up.

Depends on the collection service. 3rd party collection services aren't allowed to do anything very sketchy. Theses are more common than 1st party collection agencies since it's easier just to outsource the job to an agency and pay them a percentage recovered. Anything under a few hundred dollars isn't worth their time.

As >>891511 said, the real issue is the overdraft fees you will get pounded for. You can disconnect the bank account if they don't limit your account though.

>>892083
While we're on this topic, I just realized I don't have enough in my Paypal for the upcoming 15th payout.

Don't want to risk moving the money from my bank so let's hope I sell as much as I need pretty soon.

>Mfw fees go from three digits to four

and I can't stop buying


I mean...who sells a MacBook for $300?
Or an unlocked iPhone 6 for $250
Talk less of the $50 3DS I've always not wanted...

A new buyer who signed up today with 0 feedback just bought an item I was selling for about $10. Am I about to get scammed? Should I bother with signature on delivery? Are there any other precautions I can take with this transaction?

>>892942
Just roll with it.
>tfw investing half of your savings in product.
>tfw products hasn't arrived yet.
>tfw waiting.

They're evolving...

But seriously..whoever falls for this is a dumb ass.

Tl:Dr She wants me to release funds before receiving product

>>892636
They don't even pull out the cash for fees on the 15th. That's just the bill date.

Personally I always pull my cash out for fees and pay with credit card. Might as well get 1.5% cash back on it. 9% fees (store) - 20% (TRS)= 7.5% - 1.5% (cash back) = 7.39% Final Value Fee

>>892942
You're going to tack on an extra fee for a $10 item? Also people do make new accounts and there are people who don't have ebay accounts. Most new accounts are legit.

>>893247
You need to improve the communications on your end. Even if it is a scammer. Makes you look professional and honestly helps cover you ass if something goes wrong.

>Someone ~6 blocks away just bought something from me
>It's on the way to the Post Office

If ebay wouldn't fuck me over for not uploading postage I would just walk it there.

>>893359

Yea I know but my CC limit is $300 (Secure Card), I don't like having my fees split in to two different transactions so I usually leave the entire thing in my Pp.

and of course I don't judge a book by it's cover, the scammer really wanted me to click the "Received" button where I wouldn't be able to get a refund if they ended up shipping me a can of Pringles. All in the name of "Text books", they then canceled the transaction seeing I said I was a biz. Usually they tell me to cancel and pay through Western and they'll throw in a free case...


Same seller that was selling J's, mhm

Don't wait for ebay billing date. Just pay the amount due once a week or so and not have a bill to worry about.

>>893562

This months + last month is over 1k, better to pay it all at once instead of bits imo.

>>893565
I just pay every few days so I don't rack up a huge balance that I can't pay.

>>893568
You need to learn better money management then.

I would probably prefer if ebay just took their cut at the time of sale but I get rewards this way. Extra $50-100 a month for free.

I'm not an expert at ebay but from reading this thread you're all doing it wrong. Have you any idea how many faggots there are on ebay? Do you know how they become power sellers? Protip: it's not from buying physical stock. The majority of listings on ebay are from sellers who don't have any physical stock at all. They're simply putting up all this shit and when they eventually get a sale they place the order at another online store with the buyer's details (or if they're good -- at a supplier that they themselves have negotiated with.) That way, they're not risking buying 100s of stock that they then can't sell and the startup costs are almost non-existent since you're literally just placing orders at other retailers.

The concept is called "drop shipping" and it's been quite popular since 2008. Unfortunately, to build a business doing this with huge revenues takes a fuck load of time but I'm currently in the process of writing software to automate it for me. I have no clue if this is even still possible today. So far: I've listed about 10 items with around 5 - 10 views each and ZERO sales. I've managed to find products which are mostly competitive but I'm getting no sales. Hopefully it's not a fundamental problem with the way I'm listing and I just need to put up 100~ or so listing. Numbers + quality listings.... I also found a good supplier recently and there's zero competition on ebay so hopefully I can drop ship from them and get sales.

>I'm not an expert at ebay but from reading this thread you're all doing it wrong
>So far: I've listed about 10 items with around 5 - 10 views each and ZERO sales

>>894186
Are you saying someone needs to go to the sun to know how hot it is? I know drop shipping works because my mentor makes about 10k / month doing it. There's no way a retail shipper could make that much without a serious initial investment so most people in this thread aren't going to make more than a few hundred.

>>894192

It's better you have the inventory nowadays, you're trying to do something that's already flooded. Having your own stock never gets old, sellers will sell out, you'll be the only one selling at times while a drop shipper is dependent on the supplier. Your mentor is probably one of those sellers selling chargers/etc for under $3, he's not making anything on that unless someone buys 2,3,4 at a time. Drop shipping means more fees, better to buy all at once and hold the inventory yourself.


Also starting off being a drop shipper, you'll end up confusing orders and losing your acc before you get up to 50 skus.

/biz/,

Where does one begin flipping / reselling shit? Is there a guide / wiki that /biz/ made...?

I'd like to make some side money and this seems to be a relatively 'simple' passive(ish) income.

A friend of mine gave me two huge ass boxes of beer bottles and cans, almost all of them empty. He inherited it and didn't want them. Most of them are foreign, discontinued, and allegedly rare. Anybody know if I could make decent profit from these bottles and cans? Or am I just will I just be an eBay newfangleg wasting his time? Most are German, Dutch, Japanese, etc.

>>894235

>Go to eBay
>Search "iPhone"
>Set category to "Cellphones/Smartphones"
>Set search results to "Newly Listed"

Keep refreshing till you find good prices

>Buy
>Don't sell back on eBay
>Sell on Craigslist

Profit?

>>894178
Drop shipping is dead, by and large. The margins are thin as fuck, there are frequent breaks in the chain.

When I warehouse my own merch, I can verify it's quality, I can assure it meets strict handling guidelines, and most importantly, I can make sure it's in stock.

Drop shippers get burned constantly on inventory issues.

Plus with services like FBA, there is no point.

So I sold something on ebay and it was in perfect condition fast shipping but the guy hasn't left me any feedback. I left him some feedback. He hasn't left feedback since before he bought from me, but he's bought more items on ebay and got more feedback.

I'm wondering, should I email him and ask him to leave me feedback? Is that against ebay etiquette or what/

>>894455
Why not just resell on eBay?

>>894826

>New Seller
>30 Feedbacks
>Sells iPhone 6
>Buyer
>"It's Bad ESN, I can't use it, I want to return it"
>Seller is forced to pay return shipping
>Seller either gets 1. Empty Box 2.Box of legos 3.Parted out phone or cracked
>Seller: "The buyer scammed me"
>eBay: "That's the cost of doing business"

Now for low valued item ($50 and under), you should be fine. Scams will still happen and possibly more often since you're selling to cheapsies, but at least you won't lose alot or end up losing everything. Then again I'm just paranoid.

>>894745
You don't ask buyers for feedback through email, that's the most annoying thing ever. Also, who would want to fill >>881248

I sell 500-1k things a month, only 1/4th leaves feedback.

>>894862
How do I ask them for feedback then?

>>894455
>Dealing with thieves and their icloud locked iphones
No

>>894865

lol I used to to this, they can't open the package without reading it.

Got me to around 400FB then I bailed, wasted too many labels + it wasn't "cute" anymore.

I'd advise you to instead go to My eBay > Account > Manage Communications with Buyer

Then change the notes that the buyer gets when they checkout, this way they will see you begging them to leave a positive feedback when they get it.

Mind you will have to have an eBay biz acc to do this...

>>894865
Put a note in every package asking for them to leave you positive feedback that explains how anything other 5 stars negatively effects you and to please contact you before leaving feedback to see if the problem is resolved blah blah blah, then maybe a month or two later if you have low ratings or get a bad feedback you need to get off the first page send an email. this is what i did when i used to sell a lot of shit on ebay.

>>894869

That's where you're wrong, I keep telling you guys there are people that don't know anything about value. They think because their phone is 4 months old it's price is 1/2 or 1/3.

Just use Ctrl + F and type "ESN" to see if they even mention bad esn in their listing.

Then take it before anyone else does.

I just sold two laptops today, Toshiba I bought for $130 sold for $270 craigslist.
MacBook I bought $300 sold $400.

Learn to fix phones if you have to, iPhones are easy to repair.

Should look like this

I do this + also remind them when I upload tracking, Stamps.com has the same feature when it emails the buyer their tracking.

>Buyer has offered pitifully low price
>Accept or decline
>Decline

Thought I made a sale then, fuck. Seems I accidentally left best offer option ticked. Got my hopes up for nothing.

>>884471
>falling for the oldest trick in the book
>YOU'RE THE RETARD

>>885648
>make duplicate accounts
>buy item a few times
>listing moves up
>real sales start happening
>???????
>Profit! (literally)

It's like you have no idea how to sell stuff...

>>885737
Buy a shitty VPS and run a VPN through it.

Or just buy a VPN, although your IP may not be unique that way and you may have your data stolen if you buy from a shady vendor.

>>886673
I get ads for dogfood on youtube sometimes. I have a cat, not a dog and I have never even searched for anything realted to either.

Also
>not using an adblocker

>>895428

Youtube is slowly stopping adblock from working, Chrome doesn't work at all now.

>>885964
Lol I know exactly what he is selling.

>>896172

Here I thought I could get away, alright he gig is up.

Here I am

>>894197
>e
Just wondering since your account is so aged and what not, do you still have to worry about getting below 8 returns and you'll drop below standard seller performance and get the b& hammer right in your asshole?

>>896177
>mfw im not kidding
>mfw I know exactly what it is via the picture you uploaded like a retard.
Be more careful next time.

>>896180
>8
I passed that milestone ages ago, as a silver power seller I get 15 valid returns to lose my Top Rated + 20 or 30 more till I lose my standard rating.

I never lose my Top Rated since mostly all my returns are closed in my favor.
(20+ a month).


lol I don't think you understand what's really going on here...if you know what I sell, you'll understand. But yea, thanks for telling me.

>>896180
>8
I passed that milestone ages ago, as a silver power seller I get 15 valid returns to lose my Top Rated + 20 or 30 more till I lose my standard rating.

I never lose my Top Rated since mostly all my returns are closed in my favor.
(20+ a month).


eBay understands :^)

What I like most is how everything is renewed every three months instead of a whole year like a normal seller.

I could get 14 returns at once and they could all become invalid automatically

But I like letting the returns grow, then I get a rep to close them all at once :^)
Just to be on the safe side

>>896189
How do you get them closed in your favor? My buyers always fuck me in my ass.

>>896212


Looking at what I just posted, you see the numbers all end in 98. That's because it's the same item, I sell 500-800 of these a month.

15-20 returns on the SAMEitem, NOTHING ELSE (lol ikr)
>inb4 you should not have that many returns, 800 sales and 20 returns? I'm doing something right

I tell the rep to look at the consistency of the returns, the comments, the buyer, the complaint.
Then I throw hella metaphors at them, Ex: "It's like the buyer bought my car and now wants me to teach them how to drive".

There was even once that one of the rep bought from me, lol he said the buyers were dumb not to know how to use a simple product, then he closed all the returns w/o me having to explain.

If all fails, I have other ways to get my cases closed :^)

On top of that, it's now easier for me to get Paypal cases closed.

Everything just keeps getting easier as you grow, all a rep has to do is look at your history.

Now if a buyer had a legit reason to return

"Hey I'm sorry I bought it, I didn't use it, can I please return?"
I'd say yes :^ )

>>896229

Personal site is starting to speed up

Soon eBay will obsolete :^ )

...soon

>>877075

>put expensive laptop or pc on sale for pennies
>some chinakid buys it for 1500$ (not even half of what it's worth)
>he sends the money and ask how long will it take
>i say a month and there is no tracking number or reciept
>he eventually complies
>3 weeks pass and ebay buyers protection expires
>send money from fake paypal with bought vcc to my real paypal
>free 1500$
>delete all traces and ignore buyer
>ebay can't do shit
>buyer can't do shit

it's like you guys want to be poor

>>896587

How many hot pockets did that get you?

EBay is so fucking shit. It's all just spam, scams and utter shit.

>>896612

So which Chinese 2-3 week shipping seller did you buy from?

>>896613
None, I just took a look at it today and went through some listings.

I think I still prefer Amazon as everything seems more legit.

>>896618
i like to think of ebay as a safer craigslist, e.g. i bought an open box air conditioner for $300 locally that goes for $1000 new. on craigslist they only sell it for 100-200 cheaper than stores when it shows up.

Silly question, but I recently bought a cheap item (<$5) from China which turned out to be missing parts and wasn't compatible with my phone despite the ad saying that it did. I asked for a refund and had to start a case to get them to respond. The money has been returned, but now I'm wondering if I have to return the item. They only refunded me the money I paid, so I would be out of pocket if I paid for postage back to China. I can't imagine the seller keeping track of such low-value items, but I don't want to get in trouble with Ebay.

>>896618

They keep saying they plan on fixing it but we all know it's bs

I just don't know why eBay keeps sucking up to Asians...
For instance

>Pic related
this new seller has -1 feedback score but 700+ listings...

I know they probably have multiple stores but why do they get the benefit of having to skip through the monthly listing limit update when they get negs so easily...
If they had to make a new acc, it was a for a reason..

>>896626
If they refunded you, you don't have to return.
Most Chinese know that you'll neg them if they force you to return because of the high postage.

Is doing private label shit in a relatively competitive category with a dozen brands bound to get me burned?

I found some items listed by China fucking shits that have pretty margins of like 200%

>>896571
how did you start that up? Was it hard? Please help im very interested in doing the same and getting away from feebay.

>>896828

Site is only a week and a half old, went to GoDaddy to buy a domain and then pay someone on Craigslist to make my site for me.

lol while I was still thinking of a domain I got hungry, so I went to order some Dominos. Looked up some coupons and made my order. While my order was coming I decided to also look for coupons for GoDaddy.


Found one that only cost $60 for Domain + Storefront w/Paypal/Credit card system included for one full year.

Now I only pay for CC fees (Stripe $2.9 +30c) or Paypal fees ($2.9 +30c).

I advertise many places so it's easy to get customers.

>>896855

Meant 2.9% + 30c, on every transaction.

>I bought two, only received one
We are sorry to hear that, please give us 24 hours to review our shipping footage
(I record my self shipping anything x1+)
>Okay, refund me ASAP
We are sorry to inform you that we cannot do that, as we did ship you the two xxxxx
>Ignore...
>Opens Item not described case


really???
They already were caught lying and thought they could get away by changing the reason...

>>896618

Amazon is turning into a dump at a faster pace than ebay did. The chinese and other scammers are over Amazon now.

And Amazon themselves are nothing like they used to be. Shipping wrong stuff, takes a lot longer for delivery since they started their stupid prime bs.

Prime and FBA are for suckers and makes Amazon look desperate.

>>896182
>>896172

I actually do know what he is selling, as it's been posted here multiple times.

How does that picture tell you what he's selling beyond the fact that it's from China and that he uses bubble mailers with first class mail?

>>896210
>What I like most is how everything is renewed every three months instead of a whole year like a normal seller.
Say what? I'm TRS and Silver Powerseller w/ basic store. Mine still says 12 months.

>>896571
I'd like to drive more traffic to my webstore, but I ain't got time for that. I might need to hire some Indian to do social media and generate traffic.

>>897065
>We are sorry to hear that, please give us 24 hours to review our shipping footage
>(I record my self shipping anything x1+)

HA! Might use that one in the future.

>>894874

>Learn to fix phones if you have to, iPhones are >easy to repair.

can agree with this. buying broken iphones -> repair -> sell. Making around 100% per phone.

>>878042

This. Ebay originally positioned itself as a place to buy and sell miscellaneous personal items, but now it's just another marketplace where you'll never get any money unless you are a full-fledged business.

Might as well do a garage sale and invest one day of time to save countless headaches and many days of dealing with crappy buyers who.

>>897215

Yea I honestly don't know what's going on with my acc, lol even when a buyer opens a return, the money isn't held/reduced from my Paypal like a normal seller.

I think I already told y'all how my store front was shut down randomly one day, then restarted at 1/2 the normal price.

lol even my Stamps.com acc is stuck in limbo, I haven'' been charged $15.99 every month for three months for some reason...

Anyways, still 3 months for me.

>>897342
Exactly, I was the go-to guy back in hs when it came to it. It's crazy how people pay $120 at the mall to fix a 4s...

If anything, at least learn how to remove two screws...

>>897380
>Exactly, I was the go-to guy back in hs when it came to it. It's crazy how people pay $120 at the mall to fix a 4s...

yeah i don't know how the situation is in US. I am doing it in middle EU. Here people sell iPhone 4/4s with cracked display for 30-40€ .. and i can sell it at about 80-100€.

and if there are a few stupid people you can also buy iphone 5 for about 60-70€ with original box and only cracked display...

but hell yeah! i love those stupid people who selling cheap iphones :-)

but there is a better thing you can earn money with apple products. i only say ipods... maybe you know.

by the way, i read the whole thread now but only skimed over the text, and i don't get it what you are selling. I guess you don't tell, right?

>>897403

>iphone 5 for about 60-70€ with original box and only cracked display...

What about iCloud issues, I know you get at least 1-3 iPhones that the seller forgot to sign out...

>what you are selling. I guess you don't tell, right?

lol, it's rather obvious now.

I try not to make obvious
I mean, if anyone really wanted they could copy my store, only problem is you'd have to deal with the 10-20 negatives I get every month. All my competitors have at least one stuck on their acc they can't get off.

Have other items in mind I could buy/sell for a good turn around, just taking a break doing all this device flipping/etc for savings...

>>897423
>iCloud issues

befor i buy i ask about IMEI or SerialNR and than check on apple homepage if locked or not. if locked i aks the people to remove if yes -> buy, if now -> ... // once a time when i started repair phones i was very curious about icloud lock and i bought an iphone 5s for 120€ with icloud lock. As it was arrived i booted it up and there was no iCloud lock.. but yeah haha. that was funny.

4 real.. is there any solution for these fucking locks? Ever unlocked one ?

>>897430

If you know how to wipe the mobo I heard. A programmer could easily be making money, but this is "beneath" them...

Most wannabe coders just mask the devices UDID so when the device checks in with Apple it thinks it's a different device.But then the buyer can never reset the phone...lol

>>897442

ok.. i am to stupid for those tings.

other question to you, is eBay your side job or do youl live only with selling shitty goods?

>>897452

>do youl live only with selling shitty goods?
lol that's a nice way to put it, I do other things to make money.

Leaving the house is not one

Pays the rent/food ($500+800)

Easy to get a job at the mall if I needed back up...

>>897453

sounds great. i am jealous.

>>897380
Looked it up.

You have to average over 400 transactions for three months. I have separate ebay account for different categories. So my resale account will never be eligible unless I dedicate way more time to sourcing products from auctions.

My import one is eligible but I already have 99%+ on the account so there is no point in switching over.

>>897423
>if anyone really wanted they could copy my store

Just curious what kind of profit you actually see off the cards. I'd never have the patience to sit and have them removed, Plus I'd be throwing away money with paying my assistant to package them, unless you get China to do that for you. Having a fast moving product is nice for defect rate at least you can keep the negs off.

>>897453
>rent/food ($500+800)
>Food: 800
Wat

>>897423

IM 12 what do you sell

>>897504

>what kind of profit do you make
Well you can see I've raised the price, haven't done that in months since I needed the sales numbers.
My competitor is still 70% lower price, he sells more but we both know he's only making 10-30c on each single transaction. One return would basically mean he lose a lot. While I'm now making $3-$4 on each (soon to even be more since I'm working on my Commercial + Price shipping application).

I think I already told you guys how I pay directly through WU to my supplier, in doing so I get lower prices (wayyy lower). He used to send me then I pay him after I sell, now we flip it around as we both trust each other with over $1k. Nigerians and Chinese working together, lol...

& I still don't know how to cook + my landlord's wife got pissed off I baked a pizza the day I moved in.
So I order whatever I want or walk over to the shitty overpriced super market.

>>897519

I sell memes

>>897545
i want to buy from you

>>897554

How many keks would you like today?

We only sell the ones from the top shelf.

>>897545

maybe i am stupid, but what is

>WU

>>897563

Western Union, also known as a TT <-(See how it looks like two telephone poles), it's a direct transfer system (Telegraph Transfer). Basically there's no middle man, you take my money and I'll trust you'll send me what I ordered. Like a bank transfer without you knowing my bank info.

There's also Money Gram...etc

>>897569
ok thanks .. i learn every day new things.

what do you guys think is good to sell on ebay? Electronic goods from china ? or what can you recommend to sell ?

>>897573

Electronics is crazy imo, I want to leave it alone. Cause I'm literally selling to angry buyers...

Proving the software AND hardware components work in a case against a buyer is harder than you think.

Weebs is much easier, or Apple fanboys.
Just have to have a large category of products since it's a small/flooded market.

>>897545
>soon to even be more since I'm working on my Commercial + Price shipping application

Commercial Plus with USPS doesn't lower the price of First Class Packages. Does take a decent chunk off International and Priority though.

>>897569
Western Union and T/T are separate things. Western Union is the middle man.

I use SWIFT transfers with my bank, costs me $25 to do an international transfer for any amount.

>>897573
Anything you can get cheap enough to make a decent profit on. I avoid electronics and clothes. You can make money in them, but they're flooded, aggressive, and have to deal with a lot of customer BS.

>>897947

I'm saying it's basically the same as TT, lol and it's not like WU would refund you if you got scammed (Unlike Paypal/CC).

Oh and that's why I don't ship internationally for the mouse pads, once I get that CommercialP+, it's game on.

>Mfw I was about to sell a Macbook air for $450 then someone else called during the sale wanting to pay $480, so the current buyer paid $500.

Now I see what eBay has to deal with on a regular

>>898156
That's why I don't buy electronics unseen.

>>898363

She really took photos sideways to avoid having to show the dead pixels.

Anyways I heard that the app refunds buyers when the seller lies, so if she stops responding + doesn't send return label, I get to keep the crapbook/refund.

>>896571
Good advice from me, don't use stripe! They are going to fuck you over with charge backs. I had 4k $ in sales last 2 weeks and 2k got charged back because stripe is too stupid to check the payments for fraud. You can Google it, many people have had the same problems with them

>>898474

Only available payment system they had...

Well what I sell doesn't seem like it would be charged back anyways.

>>898485
Can't you sync with paypal?

You're selling to NEETs, they seem like the worst group for charge backs.

>THIS DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE MY WAIFU!!!!

>I tried fucking it, it broke

>I don't have enough money to buy Mt Dew now!

Also I think he was saying they have shit security so people use it with stolen credit cards, which the CC company than does a charge back on and fucks you because the person lost their CC.

>>898493

lol, I have PP in as well.

Seems more people like using their CC, some people really hate Paypal I guess...


If I get scammed I'll just send the customer some presents.

god dammit. a few days back spent fkn hours researching a piece of kit i need, found it at a great price on ebay, ordered, now two days later the asshole mails me to say "we got hacked, the price was wrong. gief more monies pls"
hacked? bullshit. he fucked up and put it up for the wrong price, blatantly. should i let him cancel this order? bet ebay will force him to send it now that i've paid.
am i being an asshole?

>>898790

They didn't get hacked, leave your negative telling others about the bs.

Then open an INR (Item not received) case.

If anything, at least leave a neutral.
Excuses like that are stupid.

>>898790
If he was really hacked, he can jump through all of the hoops with ebay. Send him the agreed upon price. If he doesn't ship, file an item not received case. Leave appropriate feedback and DSR ratings.

This basically screws him over for being a dick who doesn't own up to his mistakes. Plus it tells other buyers this guy can't be trusted.

eBay can't force him to send the item, but it can ban him from selling.

Don't send any stupid messages to him and fuck it all up though for feedback extortion or something.

>>887117
Fuck off and die, ya bum.

>>897206
Apparently amazons turnovers last year was about 30% higher then ebay.

So I've sold iphone boxes over ebay before. The sales go through, I get the money, I ship the box out, and usually within 24 hours ebay takes down the sale entirely for "possible fraudulent usage of these items" or people selling knockoff apple stuff with official apple packaging.

One sale went through completely fine, and I got about 4 more boxes I could sell. Could ebay flag my account, or put some sort of strike against me if I continue selling these boxes?

>>899118

You're not allowed to sell them, as it's easy to make a fake Apple box.

You can order a bunch of them on Alibaba right now if you wanted.

eBay will suspend you for 7 days, then a month. After that they'll close your acc. Seeing that it's a stupid reason, they might not let you back in on your legit name/etc. Get ready to pay for some VPN IP addresses.

Apple is chill af fam smh

So the MacBook I won for 1/3rd the price had a problem with the sound.
I knew all I had to do was reset it to fix the drivers.

Ended up deleting the recovery itself because I was listening to Chief Keef and clicked on the wrong HD.

Apple set me up an hour later at my local store and formatted the entire thing and even upgraded my OS for free, yes FREE. Damn...

Someone's upset

>>899911

>if you send me one more stupid face, the deal is off

haha wtf

>>899932

Guy sold me his computer for dirt cheap, realized what just happened after I paid.

Now he's looking for a reason to cancel, it's all good now fam tbh idk smfh.

>>899911
>smartpost
I like that ebay gives us the option but buyers don't read and penalize the seller with low DSRs and negatives because it was "too slow"
I mean I have had them choose smartpost because it was cheapest/free shipping with the estimated delivery time being 8+ business days and people still negging me after I ship same or next day after payment because it was "slow"
ebay has a system smart enough to see when packages were actually shipped, if it gets in the shipping company possession within the handling time then it should be impossible for idiots to leavs low scores

Nothing we can really do about idiots leaving negs though. They don't understand that 8 business days is not 8 days.

Unfortunately since I live underground, I can't recieve any packages from anywhere... Ebay, Amazon, not even Papa Johns. But what I can get are those beautiful Perfect Numbers... The ones that clearly don't belong to you.
THEY BELONG TO 56/7 CHAN!

>>899977

Nice tripdubs

Yea we had a discussion about it earlier >>885671

very stupid service.
Don't know why people still use it knowing the buyers are upset...

>>899932
>stupid face comment
I wish everybody would threaten, and actually call off deals with people that talk in emoticons.
That is unless the deal is with a Korean teen on a smartphone, re a pair of used panties.

>>899321

They can afford it. Their shit has an amazing mark up that they can pretty much provide those services and still come out with an amazing profit margin.

>>899911

You both look like huge fags.

>>900046

Best Buy should follow suit.

>That will be $80 just to look at it
>Another *$100 to find the problem
>It seems to be a software issue, did you purchase it from here?
>That will be $225 to fix it.

>>900057

Geeksquad pulls in a lot of money for them. They're there to make money off of ignorance. You're better off going to your local tech guy who will undercut them by easily half and probably give you no bullshit service.

Living in Russia and searching for something to sell abroad. As you know, there were the ruble devaluation. So prices in usd became more then two-times lower. For example, retail price for Snickers bar is $0,35. Im not talking about food only: anything is cheap, especially produced in Russia. I would offer goods from here if someone tell me their demands. Could you advise me sort of business forum or something? Thanks.

>>900074

You're going to have a hell of a time dealing with shipping costs as well as having anyone trust a Russian.

>>900078
Shipping is not expensive, sussian postal service even saved old prices. Why someone trust chinese but would not trust me? After all we can make a deal via ebay with buyer protection.

>>900074
My friend is a faggot and plays magic. He said tons of people buy cards from Russia and China because they're so cheap in comparison. Now mind you I'm not going to buy them, but it's something you could sell.

>>900081
>Why someone trust chinese but would not trust me?

Because I can look up the Chinese sellers I use and see positive feedback from past customers and I buy tens of thousands of dollars from them a year.

We in America still think every Russian is a slimy commie slav. That whole cold war thing.

>>900158
Why do u think i dont have feedbacks?
If there is a lower price for something and ebay insurance what an idiot will think about politics?

>>900164
I'm talking about my bulk sellers in China. Not buying individual units. I would never buy from some random Chinese seller on ebay. The main issue is speed for that. You might be able to sell something for 7.50, but if I sell the exact same thing for 12.50 and can get it there in 2 days, the bulk of people will buy from me.

>>900166
Why do u think i cant ship something at the time you shipping it? We have the same international delivery organisations. DHL? TNT? UPS? Or you have own company?

>>900166
Oh, i get it. You are talking about containers. Yes, transit time from China to USA is not so long as from Russia. But there are different customers with different needs. I hope so. Anyway if you need anything: food, industrial equipment, car parts... feel free to ask rusexxp@gmail.com
I will try to give you the best offer directry from factory.

>>900206
I'm saying I live in the US and ship from the US. I can ship something from one side of the country to the other in 3 days for $2.04. Whereas you could close to the same speed with a courier but the cost will be much higher.

There are deffinetly things from Russia that people would buy in the US. Some examples of things I think you could move well are: Energy Drinks or niche luxury foods with cyrillic on them. Teenagers eat that shit up. Vacuum tubes, I recall reading that there is still a few companies making new ones in Russia and China. Even better if you can find new old stock (NOS) ones. They fetch huge money in the hobby market in the US and Europe and I imagine Russia has more than most of the world.

Industrial equipment is also an interested idea too. I work with some machine equipment as a hobby and Russian machines are either indestructible or junk. The issue there is machinery is large and heavy.

How long should I wait before cancelling an unclaimed paypal payment?

The guy isn't responding to e-mails and it's been two days. I knew I shouldn't have bought from a first time seller.

>>900428
What was the time frame they listed?

> be me
>no sales
> fug


I need more exposure, will free shipping help me with this

>>900650

You're the vintage guy from the other thread, so no.

If you were selling iPhone cables/etc, then yes free shipping would help a lot since 50k+ results come up and everyone usually clicks on "US Only" + "Free shipping".

>>883983
fuck off ebay shill

>>900996
Even if I include shipping costs into the buy it now price ?

>>901030

People know you did that, do a test run...


All my listings are FS.

>>901010

>anyone who points out the advantages of using the largest online storefront in the world to sell products must be a shill
>I must let everyone know about this almost 3 months later

>>901010

>anyone who interferes with the echochamber must be a shill
>I must announce this to the world 2 weeks later

>Accept offer on one of my highest priced items.
>Buyer still hasn't paid after 58+ hours.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>901120
>Think I'm finally done with eBay for today.
>Get a return request.
>Start pouring a drink while calling eBay again.
>mfw connected to 100% genuine AMERICAN Californian QT grill eBay CS rep of the best quality.

>>901566

I keep getting Indians

>Listing says
>"We cannot assist in setting up product"
>Buyers email
>"Can you help me setup product"
>Leaves neutral when we refuse
>eBay rep says they can't remove
>Call back 5min ago, next guy says he can

It's like 1/2 of these reps don't have common sense...

>tfw just turned $3 into $245 before fees today

>>900230

Russiabro, there's a market for smuggling out deact and "borrowed" gun parts to American gun builders. Bizon magazines, etc. Of course, your country is very strict about export.

But yea, you can make a nice penny selling gun parts to Americans.

>>878057
Just Craigslist or Flea market if you're not selling bulk.

I still refuse to sell electronics online.

>>900074

Check out the Seller Forum on ebay. They might be able to give you some useful advice.