/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>8937819
The mc argument is bullshit. Just bevause something has a low mc doesnt mean its good. Obviously if it was as amazing as the bagholders say then it would have a larger mc?

>>8937819
swiss bro dumped on these deluded retards LMAO

>NO PRICE ACTION
>NO PARTNERSHIPS
>MY FEELINGS WHEN

>My face when you buy my book "My Face When" from amazon

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>>8938119
Exactly. Somehow low market cap obsession is a good indication of potential.

When amazon was 1.5 billion mc and books.com was 50 million, the same retail investors and bagholders probably had the same argumeny. Guess who is richer now?

Vechain is your best best. The high market cap doesn’t mean shit. Fortune 500 have 50 billion plus mc. It’s all about market share dominance which vechain has. It can do anything that Ambrosus can. Ambrosus gave up on their parents. Obviously sensor patents aren’t an 8th grade science project that can be done in one year

>>8938187
The essential difference between Vechain and Walton is the layer at which the blockchain is implemented. Walton has patents on the txID-reading RFID chips with memory, which allows the blockchain to be implemented in the foundational level through the RFIDs. They are world leaders in chip technology, and make their own chips. Vechain does not make their own chips. They outsource the hardware, and have the hardware made compatible with their blockchain via API. So their blockchain is implemented several layers up in the application layer, through business-centralized control. So, Vechain is inherently less decentralized and less secure.

This is the essential difference, and it's not a deal-breaker for Vechain, but it is a fact, and it does matter. Walton is somewhat ironically better at authentication than Vechain for this reason, despite Vechain's original main use-case as an anti-counterfeiting product (they've since expanded their use-case into cold logistics and other areas).

But there are other advantages to making your own chips. Vechain is using someone else's hardware and then repurposing it for their blockchain. Walton has built the chip from the ground up to be compatible with the blockchain and improved the standard chip to be much more advanced, with encryption, fine minute movement detection, anti-collision logic to prevent skipping, low voltage technology so the chips can last more than 20 years, and other advancements over standard chips. Making their own chips also makes them cheaper. Standard RFIDs are 15 to 20 cents. Walton's are less than 5.

>>8937819
Buy Vechain sir. Many partnerships sir. No fake partnerships sir

>mfw everyone in this thread is the same person except for the larp

Guessing OP has heavy VEN bags he needs to dump

DEBUNKING AMBROSUS FUD

>Developers and Vlad Trifa has left Ambrosus team
No, Marek the lead developer and Vlad Trifa is still very much in the team. They're busy attending conferences and leading workshop everywhere

>Ambrosus partnered witn TRON. It must be a SCAM
No, there's no partnership with TRON, confirmed by Aneesh in official TG

>Ambrosus is the next theranos! They wont be able to complete their sensor!
Ambrosus will use an already existing sensor on the market not. R&D for Ambrosus own sensor will ofc still in work. By using existing sensor enterprises can use Ambrosus service soon.

You guys should listen to Angel's recent interview. He said that Ambrosus already have 3 partnership confirmed, just waiting to be announced:
- A top 10 pharma company: Most likely GSK
- A large consulting firm: Most likely deloitte
- A large QA firm: Possibly SAP, not many hint on this one

>>8938237
Nope I bought at 30 cents above ico. I’m very comfy

Vechain will be THE amazon of supply chain. All these Ambrosus memes and artwork is just fluff doing the talking. No s

AMBlets excuse :
>need to wait for next bull run in 2060 when btc is 100k
> muh partnerships, I mean collaborations.
>over exaggerating one mans technical ability, vlad trifa. No Company survives from the skills of one man. As a CPO, he doesn’t even code all day
>early investor Kazuya1989 from reddit cut his losses. Imagine that, someone who isn’t holding bags because he bought at ico price sold

>>8938344

We'll see. Hope you don't FOMO in when the partnerships are announced

>>8938376
Already priced in bud

>>8938381

Lol no it's not. If they've partnership with GSK deloitte and SAP no way this stay at only 50M marketcap

>>8938395
THESE are real partnerships, not Angel “trying to win them over once the pilot phase is over”

>>8938344
You realize VEN fits the perfect description of The China Hustle? Funny to think that people view VEN as a legit product.

Fake partnerships
Overhyped product
A CEO that can't stop lying

Let me know when China actually invents anything instead of ripping off the rest of the world.

>>8938445
And you think Switzerland is a heavenly place?

They only kept NAZI gold.. yea no big deal.

> let me know when Ambrosus gets its patented sensors from a school science fair
> even your TG group admits vechain is a force to be reckoned with

REMINDER: NO PRICE ACTION FOR YOU AMBLETS THIS MONTH (april now kek) OR EVER
>mfw biz fell for the swissfaggot, pharmpajeet, and kimchiwhore LARPs
>mfw Mcafee brought on board for bigger P&Ds
>mfw amblets hyped up NDAs and partnerships for months only to result in TRON collaboration (MEGA FUCKING KEK)
Source: https://medium.com/@tronfound/ambrosus-masternodes-in-collaboration-with-tron-96fc7d75732
>mfw years will go by before R&D produces a working prototype
>mfw uptrend inevitable for chink coins VEN, WTC, and WABI that are years ahead in terms of development
>mfw brainlets don't realize AMB admins are PROJECTING onto kazuya and accusing him of P&D (funny how they all knew this beforehand but only mentioned it now to silence/smear opposition)
mfw
MFW
MY FUCKING FEELINGS WHEN

>>8938197
>Walton has patents on the txID-reading RFID chips with memory
>reddit copypasta
Name one Walton patent

>makes ambrosus thread just to shill pajeetchain

really gets the noggin joggin...

>>8938445
>He trusted Chinks.
> 'Tanks for money, Weiloo!'

>>8938509
Keep the VEN "partnerships" coming.

>>8938548
Walton doesn't have a working product.

These companies ALWAYS inflate their statistics. The Chinese know they can't be prosocuted for defrauding people overseas. In fact, it is heavily encouraged as a way of doing business.

I would say almost 98% of the Chinese crypto products out now are based on fraud. Walton and VEN are just behind TRON.

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>>8938588
Keep the Ambrosus test pilot “collaborations” coming

“GSK partnership”
“Deloitte partnership”

>>8938579

> o he is from Europe they probably don’t scam people at all

Thanks for the use case ideas AMBlets. Sunny Lu and management has been informed to capture that market as well

>>8938655
You realize that even hardcore AMBlets on telegram admit vechain isn’t a scam?

>>8938663
>The Chinese would never lie

>>8938677
Scam would be an outright nothing product. They are based on fraud. Learn the difference moron.

>>8938717
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>>8938738

>>8938748

>>8938717
The only difference, moron is vechain will hit 10 billion mc. Failbrosus will stay under 100 million if you’re lucky

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>>8937819
I dumped all my VEN around $7 - I don't trust any of the Chinese projects anymore. They're just hype machines. I don't even think Vechain has a white paper, and Sunny buys VEN on exchanges. They could well be legit, but it's not easy for me to verify as someone who can't read Chinese. All I see a team of generic Chinamen, can't really get any sense of their reputation. And for that reason I'm out.

Still think AMB has plenty of room for growth. VEN as well, considering it’s making new developments all the time.

>>8938883
Ok Barbara.

Hmmm, so AMB is a scam coin with fake partnerships which was already dumped and forgotten about by whales. Pretty interesting that people would spend so much of their time and energy fudding it. Some people in this thread even spend their entire day waiting for any mention of AMB so they can jump in and post their copypasta.

My question is why? There's tons of shitcoins and scams posted on biz all the time. Why does this one have such a devoted group of people waiting to bash it at every opportunity?

If i were the conspiratorial type I might think that something was brewing. Very interesting indeed.

>>8939325
>doesn't know how funny it is to troll AMBlets (aka desperate decemberfags that missed btc, eth, ltc, xrp, ven, nano, etc)
>mfw

>>8939476
Is it though? I seriously doubt anyone who is significantly down would still be checking let alone posting in AMB threads. They most likely either sold at a loss or have decided to hold long term. That just leaves a small group of die hard supporters and I seriously doubt they're feeling "trolled" by you.

I mean, if this is how you entertain yourself then who am I to judge. It just seems like a lot of time and energy that could be used for better things, like researching other coins and investments or you know, having a life. Then again I guess I should never underestimate the autism of bizlets.

>>8939476
Someone needs to post the link to MrBearWolf's thread on that other fucking /biz/ board saying how he's fudding to accumulate. This thread is 2 maybe 3 people chatting with themselves. Buy signal for anyone interested.

>>8938187
Vechain probably wont give you 100X returns like pajeets swear their shitcoins will. But it will definantly appreciate a lot from here, I hold some so I'd hope it could hit mid to high teens.

>>/biz/thread/S8552640#p8555832
You mean the thread where I "revealed" to ride a quick pump and dump?
mega KEK

>>8938717
The absolute brainletism in this thread is amazing. You hold a fucking legitimate scam coin with no working product and no adoption. Why the fuck would AMB be on twitter giving away free amber to those who retweet; if they had these billion dollar partnerships? Wouldn't the revenue from these companies greatly outweigh anymoney from crypto investors?
You buy into a fucking larp without doing a hair of research and then you accuse legitimate companies of being chink scammers. Holy fucking shit you're stupid. Enjoy your bags fuckwit.

>>8939476
Hilarious?

>>8938445
A couple faggots watched that shitty fucking movie and now won’t stop talking about it on every Vechain thread on here. There have been no fake partnerships. Gtfo.

>>8937819
IM A BEAR HURRRRDY DURRR

SAGE

Do opposite of what biz says, always.

>>8940026
its going to be fun watching VENlets cry when nothing comes of their "partnerships"

>>8938509
>They only kept NAZI gold.. yea no big deal
Gold is gold, why would this be a bad thing?

>>8937819
Current state of supply chains.