/biz/ - Business & Finance

Enjoy the piston rings leaking and burning oil like crazy.. Also the exploding engine at 120kmiles

>>8902930
>German "engineering"

Enjoy paying through the nose for repairs.

Lexus is the patricians luxury choice. Elegant and reliable.

>>8902961
>Elegant and reliable.

and gay. You forgot gay.

>>8902930
>15 year old BMW
>things break every other week
kek, you're the actual cuck here

>>8902961
bimmer owner here, not much more expensive than a toyota for repairs and engine runs like new at almost 400k on the engine. if you get it serviced at the dealership you're a brainlet

>>8902930
I've owned a Benz and an Audi, won't buy german unless I want to burn money anytime I take a drive.

>>8903002
>>8902960
>>8902961

also a family member had one of these for almost 10 years, put quite a bit of mileage on it and I don't think there was even one significant repair done on it

>>8902961
>Lexus
You know that Lexus is known for having the shittiest service department right? Not only that, but most of their parts can't be bought wholesale somewhere else so you HAVE to get serviced at the dealer and get raped by insanely marked up part costs.

German reliability is a myth

Buy Japanese unless ur a faggot

>>8903030
Then buy a toyota.

>>8903047
>>8903052
>buy Japanese

that's like buying depression

>>8902930

If your net worth is less than 2-3 million dollars you shouldn’t be driving any luxury vehicle.

>>8902930

>>8903074
>he doesnt own a Landcruiser
>he think buying german money pits are the only way to get automotive joy

>he got the 90's model instead of the e30

Absolutely trash taste

>>8903168
>>is cheap these days

>>8903192
You can get a stock one for like 6-8k

>>8902961
I got a friend who is a mechanic and drives a 400 series bmw. He straight up told me to get a lexus if I dont want to be poor

>expecting biz shut-ins to know anything about cars.
m52/m54 engine range were and still are reliable as fuck. Cooling is a bit weak though and the shitty examples like to burn oil. never heard of these ever blowing up at 120k though.

>>8903277
I think it's also that Americans are generally distrustful of anything subtle and well-made.

>>8903030
Hmm

>>8903277
My car has the N52 and it’s pretty awesome. Sounds great, good torque doesn’t need anything besides fluids, filters and brake pads.

>>8903299
People in this country are fucking retards who think you shouldn’t even have to change the oil more than once a year. The only reason jap shitboxes are known for reliability is that the shitty lawnmower engines in them are so understressed you could abuse them for a decade and they’ll stil run. I’ll say this: if you only want a car for getting from point A to point B, get the cheapest ancient piece of shit jap car you can find. If you actually want to enjoy driving, get a bimmer.

>>8903365
>report that considers Bluetooth not connecting the same severity as a transmission failure
Into the trash it goes.

here is the ultimate /biz/ car

>>8903413
>implying all jap cars are just Camries and Corollas
Kys

>>8903365
i have a hard time believing infiniti has a lot of problems and toyota doesn't.. it's the same shit

>>8903450
and this

>>8903479
Infiniti and Toyota are two completely different brands you mong

>>8903456
>implying lexus are actually fun to drive
If it’s not an s2000 or a mazda then fuck off

>>8903494
oh yeah, you're right.. was thinking of nissan. while admitting guilt is embarrassing, it feels good to know that i have more money than you regardless.

>>8902930
I don't waste money on a car because I'm an apartmentfag, and I don't have a garage. I have a decent economy car, paid off, and I don't care if it gets leaves and shit on it. Some dumbass here drives a 2 year old Vette, and doesn't even put a cover on it - not only is it theft bait, but the finish is fucking wrecked. I'll get a nice car when I have a garage.

Why no Porsche lovers?

Pic related is the ultimate /biz/ car
>Japanese engineering
>long lasting
>fuel efficient
>aesthetically pleasing
>good reselling value

>>8903523
too flashy

>>8903519
Post portfolio or gtfo fag

>>8903030
Lexus are Boomer/Gen X cars for pretending you're rich. It's just a Toyota with different upscale detailing. It's the ultimate LARPcar. BMWs are everywhere here in CA, nobody even notices them. You have to spend 3 times as much to even get a glance, here. If you want to project (like retards like you seem to need more than anything else), you'll need a Bentley or a top end Tesla for that.

>>8903523
Porsches are great but you get raped on options, best to buy a used one until you make it

>>8903545
...you mean it will attract the wrong type of attention? Porsche is unique because it's a German make but it's reliability is on par with Lexus.

>>8903499

Sc300 are fun

>>8903528
I see a refrigerator in your pic

I actually do own a 325CI. My dad bought it for me when I turned 18, still using it. don't think im gonna buy a car for a long time.

>>8902930
Cuckmobile.jpg
Come on dude if you’re gonna make a bait thread at least change file name

>>8903528
I agree, Corolla is god tier when it comes to a practical transportation appliance.

>>8903560
Porsches have a collector's value and interest, so you can drive an old one and just say you collect. It's one of the few cars you can get away with that - and the old Porches are actually worth picking up. A restored 911 says 'Porche enthusiast with taste."

>>8903573
That's your only critic for Corolla Altis?

>>8903559
>wanting to project wealth.

Quiet money is best. Dont be a fag trying to impress strangers that will never benefit you.

>>8903593
Man of culture

>>8903562
You don't buy high end sports cars for reliability, grandpa. You buy them to show off. It says you can afford the extra upkeep. Do you think movie dudes in LA daily drive Ferraris for their gas mileage? No, they're movie producers who can afford 3K for a tune up.

>>8903622
I agree with you, but I'm just working with the mindset.

>>8903628
Corollas are nice.

>super reliable
>cheap to fix
>hold value well

Anything other than toyota/honda is a stupid investment unless you have fuck you money.

>>8903622
Is Lexus quiet money though? Lexus kind of has the rich old guy stigma.

>>8902930

lol BMW is the most normie trash shit pop car. It's like there engineered to have mechanical/electrical problems after a set number of miles. And a lot of Mechanics hate them plus the parts are really expensive. So prepare to get full on fucked when (not if) you get it fixed/serviced.

>>8903653
>Anything other than toyota/honda is a stupid investment unless you have fuck you money
This.

>>8903653
Anything under 30k is dumb to even consider resell value, if it's 10 years old or younger, it's a disposable car, and designed to be replaced at 100k. The last generation of GOOD used cars was destroyed by Cash For Cars (thanks Obama).

I drive a cheap, $22k car I bought brand new, it's paid off, and I'll drive it until I get a better car when I have a garage for it, and keep this one as a weekend/get shit at Home Depot car. I'll drive the fucker into the ground. Resell? Why? It's not going to be worth shit after 100k, period.

>>8903682
True, BMW stands for Break My Wallet...only German make that is reliable like Japanese makes is Porsche.

>>8903675
With a lexus you wont get people yelling out "nice car" and "are you my uber". You will get people buggging the fuck out of u in a ferrari or some german fuccboii car.

Get a lexus LFA most people will think its a Toyota 86 and leave u alone.

>>8903631
Porsche owners usually buy them to keep for very long term, it's not really a lease machine like BMW/Audi/Mercedes

>>8903611
Drives like shit. Looks like shit. It has no soul.

Pic related is the actual best econobox. Slightly less reliable than Toyota but a lot more character, style and handling.

>>8903653
there is some challenge going round where people cum on the windscreen

Cars don't need to cost alot if you're willing to buy second hand. Here's my full option 2008 audi a6, absolutely love to drive it. 414K kilometres driven. I'd like to be buying a 2017 version in 2 years. Its classy, doesnt attract negative attention and alot of room.

>>8903027
wow one car out of the 700k made

MAKE WAY COMING THROUGH

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>>8903726
>>8903675
>>8903631
>>8903559
>>8903545

Where do you poorfags live where seeing a Lexus or BMW is considered something noteworthy? I often sit in traffic in my Honda and am surrounded on all sides by these brands of cars. This is near DC and it probably goes the same for any other city in the US. The only time I actually pay attention to the brand of another car on the road is when it’s a lambo or ferrari

>>8903749
>Drives like shit
Nah, it's the opposite.

>Looks like shit. It has no soul
Subjective opinion.

>Mazda
Never tried it, but I'm sure Toyota is still way better than Mazda.

>>8903746
I know, that was my point.

>>8903885
They're not noteworthy here, as I posted before, they're dime a dozen, you need something 3 times as much to get noticed in CA.

>>8903885
i own a bmw 335..a nice sleeper car. i dont have a porsche because it feels like you're showing off.

>>8902930
Only foreigners (muslims) drive low-end bmws in my country.

>>8903890
>Never tried it, but I'm sure Toyota is still way better than Mazda.

CVT a shit

>>8903890
>Toyota is still way better than Mazda
Only if you see cars as just machines to get from point A to point B.

>>8904246
kek, anyone who seems that as more fell for the bait

>>8904246
That's me, now. I had my sports cars, and a couple near misses made me give it up. But i don't criticize any young dude getting a nice, fast car - they're a fucking blast, and as long as you don't do something fucking idiotic like drive drunk, or street race, everyone should have at least one fun, stupidly fast car when they're young.

>>8903299
>bimmers
>subtle
>well made

Lol, no they are overengineered garbage.

>>8903413
>j-jap cars are reliable but it's because their shitty

Delusional German fag cope never ceases to amuse

>>8903414
Toyota group manufactures the most reliable vehicles point blank

>>8903935
they do everywhere, they seem to think having a poverty spec 316i is a sign that they've made it.

Lol, 10yr old BMW and you think its. cheap? Maybe acquisition cost, but good fucking luck keeping up with the repair bills, You better be a certified mechanic or be ready to spend all your sweet gainz on it.

Lexus all the way

Pic related, its prefect for /biz/, expensive, will lose value quickly, plus the loses you are shelling out to keep this ultra reliable car on the road, when you could have bought into something that is going up....
buy high/sell low

>>8904428
That car is older than most of the degenerates on here.

>>8904338
>Delusional German fag cope never ceases to amuse
I like how you can’t refute it because it’s true, fucking retard. Oh boy it sure is hard to build a weak ass turd of an engine that can be neglected like hell. Go ride a bicycle kiddo that way you don’t even need to change oil.

Can anyone tell a difference between this shitbox BMW and a Honda Civic from more than ten feet away? I sure can’t. Plus the same people drive them both—minorities.

>>8904517
rwd manual cars don't lose value

>>8903528
Would be a masterrace but aesthetically pleasing? Every generation has been hideous af.

>>8904685
Because they have 0 value

>>8903528
Corolla vs Camry?

>>8904751
right e30s have 0 value, sierra cosworths have 0 value, s13s have 0 value, mx5s have 0 value

I could go on and on

these type of cars tend to not lose as much value as other cars cause they are fun to drive so peoples tend to beat the shit out of them and finding one in good condition is harder and harder over the years

thats why nowadays you have sierra cosworths or M3 E30s selling for 50k€

>>8903885
The point of the lexus is to wrap yourself in luxury and still be low key like cheap coke.

>>8904762
Camry...closest you will get to a lexus.

>>8902961
exactly this. i own a body shop/repair shop. bimmers are the fucking WORST.

>>8905177
Lexus and Toyota are for shrimps.

>>8904762

they're basically the same car, get the corolla because its more fuel efficient/cheaper

>>8905177
Lexuses are a bit cheesy but then so are BMWs should just buy a Volvo XC90 and be done with it. It’s the perfect car and old ones don’t really lose any resale value over time.

>>8905247
This i will agree too. People are saying that volvo is amazing now. If u dont mind that soyboy engineer/soccer mom look that is.

So what's a non faggy luxury car?
and what's a non faggy cheap /fast/ car?

>>8905271
No one cares about that. You get a lot of car for your money and they don’t break down and they have ice cold aircon and you can get a very good one for $5000

>>8903074
>transportation object decides your mood

Where's the truck masterrace at? I drive a 85 toyota pickup with 300k miles, it still runs perfectly. Cars are for limp wristed, worthless faggots.

>>8902930
The ultimate /biz/ car is the one that costs almost no money in maintenance to operate.

>>8904614
What is there to argue? Your premise is retarded. Have fun with your refugee constructed shitbox rusting on the dealership floor before it even gets to a end users hands.

>>8904762
IMO, Camry is more boxy than Corolla. Also it's way more expensive and I don't see anything in Camry to justify its price. It's overpriced.

I believe Corolla has the best price-specs ratio.

>>8905207
>bmw's are the worst
this. I wanted one of those nifty 3.40 turbo two door bmw's because japan no longer make powerful rear wheel drive coupe's.

The more I looked into it the more I realised a skyline or a supra etc was a way better choice because bmw make their cars intentionally difficult to repair without a hoist and special tools. Then you have the insane amount of electrical problems, they could be great cars if bmw tried to make 90s tier toyota's rather than money pits to scam the owner into going back to the dealer.

>special tools like a long and bendy allen wrench or obscure bolt heads, there's nothing worse than encountering a simple problem with a car that requires specific tools to access the problem part

>>8905861
So what is the selling point of the Camry supposed to be, then?

>>8905549

and lets you earn additional income by taking short detours on the way to a primary job

>>8905967
I don't think there's a case for buying the camry because it's front wheel drive and it's boring. If you want the best toyota available for the best price, buy a hilux.

>it's rear wheel drive, 2.7 litre 4 cylinder or 4.0 litre 6 (power!) It's easy to fix, it drifts well, there's a plethora of aftermarket parts, anyone can fix them. Easy to drive and park, if you ding it you can get a new door or bumper from your local car wreckers.

And women fucking love it when a man drives a man's car, and obviously a man should drive a ute.

>>8906029
how many people order pizzas at 8am though

i got a demo 2017 honda fit se super cheap from my buddy's dealership. even without the discount it is fucking worth the price if you do a lot of road trips and commuting (gas use is sick, so is space)
p fun to drive too
it's not as sexy as a civic but there's way more room for fucking in the back esp with the fold down seats

>>8906046
that thing is a giant faggot signal and takes up way too much street parking
i dunno where you live that you gotta perform your masculinity with a truck but lol no

>>8906096
I bought my wife a fit. I'm 6 feet tall and 215 lbs and I just can't fit in the car comfortably. I have to tilt my head to avoid it banging on the ceiling of the car.

>>8906130
im 6'2" too, there's two lever on the side of the seat. one of them, you can pump it down to lower the seat.

what an unimaginative and lame ass car. My parents drive crap like this OP

>>8906046
That’s completely retarded, go back to r*ddit

>>8906120
There's smaller versions of it, my mate paid 14k for a brand new 2.7 litre petrol hilux from the dealer. It seems to be about the same size as a camry, the virtue signal is secondary to the fact that it's the best car toyota offers and you can carry things around in the back.

It's as ugly as a corolla/camry but practical. The 4x4 models are a different thing entirely though.

>>8906200
oh, looks like i might have jumped the gun then. my bad, anon.
i'll admit, it really is nice having space to lug shit around.

>>8905967
It's supposed to be 'luxurious' Toyota or cheaper Lexus.

>>8905799
So retarded that you can’t even counter it, you stupid sack of shit. Your post reeks of butthurt and makes me laugh. Enjoy your shit paint quality, shit gearing, shit engine, shit interior, shit ride quality and shit handling all just to only change your oil once every two years, pathetic cuckold.

>>8905799
So retarded that you can’t even counter it, you stupid sack of shit. Funny how you mention rust when it’s your japcrap garbage with shit-tier paint that rusts before any european car does. Your post is pure butthurt and makes me laugh. Enjoy your shit paint quality, shit gearing, shit engine, shit interior, shit ride quality and shit handling all for the sake of only changing your oil once every two years, poor pathetic cuckold.

>>8903450
+1

This is the year of the BCH, anyone who isn't buying a maxed out Toyota Supra with 1000HP, and a big sign saying "Bitcoin (BCH)" in the back window, is a absolute loser cuck

>>8902930
>Pretending the 911 has any competition whatsoever
Pros:
>Fast
>comfortable
>driver friendly
>on of the few cars that still comes in manual
>pricey but keeps peasants from ruining it
>nice but not as flashy as lambo or ferrari
>holds value especially if you buy used about a year or so later
Cons:
>everyone thinks you are going through a midlife crisis

>>8906386
It's funny how mad g*rmans get defending their overwngineered garbage when literally every study demonstrates that Japanese cars are longer lasting and better constructed.

BMWs are built by refugees and driven by new money Pakis and Arabs. It really captures the German spirit in that aspect.