/biz/ - Business & Finance

>tfw portapotty cleaner
>any toilet I want
>600k starting

>>8807716
>born daddy's boy
>not a care in the world
>got into crypto for fun
>tfw I made from crypto more than I inherited

>>8807716
Muh welding is the ultimate skilled trade meme

>just finished weekend taxidermy course
>stuff what I want
>450k starting
>feels good man

>just finished in your mom
>anytime I want
>no risk of pregnancy thanks to menopause

>>8807810
Job post, can't help but mention crypto.

Your dad's gonna be sad when he finds out you squandered all that money

>>8807810
Greatest feeling ever isn’t it
Don’t even have to make it

>just finished hacking up my own genitals
>any restroom I want
>am developer for cardano, 30 ETH a year

>>8808270
kek

>>8807716
Welding is actually a decent career as it's a skill that's in demand globally.

>>8807739
I would do it

>>8807716
How long does welding school cost and how long does it take?
One could unironically live in some shitbox for 4 or so for like $12,000 a year and get a million dollars in half a decade
Ten years and you're set for life, you can even keep on working if you WANT to
Why is not everyone doing this
There must be a catch

>>8807839
You got a lifetime guaranteed job however

>>8807716
Is welding school an actual thing?
I learned it on the job training and took max 2 weeks to know everything. It's easy as fuck.

>>8807716
Man, i'm an Aerospace welder and I only made $46K last year working 50+hrs a week at $16 an hr.

I weld $1,000,000 parts daily on some of the hardest Super alloys available
But some neanderthal with a stick wedler makes like $10 more an hour than I do.

>>8807716
>just 300k starting salary school
>any job I want
>300k starting

Is underwater welding a meme or can you actually earn big bucks doing it?

I heard that due to the stresses it puts on your body you can only do it for a few years (roughly 5 years)

>>8808527
You did small easy shit i guess. I also learned it kinda on the side and never did again for 2 months.
But it was small stuff. Super fun though.

>>8808359
My buddies went through a 2yr weld collage and I think they spent a little over $12K after supplies ex.
But most places hire only entry level people right now. So if you can just kinda, weld; you can get a job. It won't pay much though.

>>8808527
>max 2 weeks to know everything.
Nigga, your knowledge is incredibly limited. That means you basically are at the peak of the Dunning Kruger effect.

>>8808625
Don't do it
It fucks you up
I know a guy who did off shore oil rig welding.
Dude was basically secluded for 6 months at a time destroying his body for $70 an hour.

>>8808716
>70$ an hour

Count me fucking in lad

>>8808731
Nigga, your body is worth more than $70. An hr.
That same guy stayed under too long and had to spend 36 hours in a hyperbolic chamber.
Plus you can only weld for a few hours a day.

>>8807716
You added one too many zeros anon

>>8808716
Better this than drugs

>>8808625
If most likely received a fat bonus eoy, making that 140$/hr

Fumes and smoke will destroy your lungs, nose, central nervous system. Welding is ok short term but if it's your career you should just take up smoking and get it over with.

>>8808540
then get a new job shithead

>>8808883
>then get a new job shithead
It's fucking hard dude.
Aerospace pays like shit these days.
Wages are stuck in the 2008 crash.
But that's my only skill set, and I'm really fucking good at it.
I make everything glowing in the pic.

Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLla5w2yZeA

>>8808985
Sounds like you've got the old game dev problem. Programming pays great except for gaming, where everyone loves the thing they make, people pile in, and wages go to shit.

So you probably have to choose between comfy welding of cool glowing shit or boring, difficult welding in Alaska or wherever that pays well.

>>8808359
You don't actually make that much, genius.

>>8809019
People are piling in because aerospace will literally hire anyone these days because the skill pool is almost gone.
I had to train a 40yr old women who worked as a barista her whole life how to assemble $200,000 parts.
This industry is fucked now that the boomers are gone.

>>8807716
>junior level coder
>200k/year starting
>literally stroll into work at 10 every day
>type a few lines of code then boom lunch time
>nice catered lunch every day from this deli down the street
>go back to work after lunch and type a few more lines of bullshit code while browsing Chan and doing online shopping.
>leave work at 530 every day.
>Everyone thinks I'm a computer genius when I lied about most of the shit on my resume. Literally just bought a big stack of coding books and just speed read through them on adderal
>feels good man

>>8809147
You'll probably get a kick out of this then.

>“Almost everywhere I go, businesses tell me they can’t find workers. I always ask them the same question: 'Are you raising wages?' Usually, the answer is ‘no.’ When you want more of something but won’t pay for it, that’s called ‘whining,’”
http://www.businessnorth.com/daily_briefing/regional-fed-chief-urges-firms-to-raise-wages/article_715b14da-3769-11e8-a754-6b74fe8ee919.html

The industry being fucked is the first step towards making $300k starting.

>>8808412
until the robots take over

ive got a room mate who's going to welding school
I don't think he's getting 300k

>>8809181
Fake it till you make it.
Recruiters and HR are retarded
They don't know anything about the job.
All they want is a hire that's a "Culture fit"

>graduated with a double major in accounting and finance
>autistic
>didn't intern
>26k a year starting as some assholes personal secretary who gets shit on regularly

>>8809229
At least you got that. I know people that can't even get their foot in the door.

About to graduate, just got an offer for a job that pays 44k a year. kind of scared to become a wageslave. I just need to hang in there till my crypto moons...

Welder/mechanical assembler here. I had not realized how in demand I was until my boss pissed me off and I started looking for a new job. Was making 24 an hour and found a new comfy union job making 30 an hour within 2 weeks. It's amazing how places will treat you like worthless shit until you say you're leaving, then they grovel at your feet and throw counter offers at you. It's a great feeling.

>>8809221
>until the robots take over
Guess who runs the auto and laser welders?
WELDERS you fucking retard.

>>8809210
My company lost 12% of it's workforce in 4 months and started to panic.
They did a employee study and found out 87% of ppl wanted to stay but couldn't afford to live of the $12 base wage.

They raised the minimum wage to $16 and raised everyone who had worked there 3 years by $5 an HR.
Suddenly they we're only losing 3% of their workforce every 6 months.

>>8809181
are you that artificial intelligence anon who lied on his resume?

>>8809333
Trips don't lie.
But ya, places don't know what they lost until it's too late.
I've seen guys leave and the company mocks them.
Then they are forced to hire 3 ppl to replace them
It's hilarious

>>8809259
Live cheaply (roommates, short/carless commute) to max out the money you can invest and work your way up to max out the money you bring in (see if another offer comes in and you can leverage the 44k company into offering 50k, consider switching jobs every ~2 years)

>>8809342
Nice.

>>8808625
>Is underwater welding a meme or can you actually earn big bucks doing it?
Dead men don't need money.

>>8808625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEtbFm_CjE0

>>8809392
Thanks for the advice, definitely trying for a short commute. It's in a low cost of living area (Columbia SC) so I'll hopefully be able to save up a good bit.

>>8807716

its the guy who pretended to be a PhD now pretending to be a welder.

saddest LARP

>>8808540
why don't you weld for an oil company?

>>8809630
wtf nigga how new are u

Whats a good trade to learn, unironicly ?

>>8809700
Software development.

>>8809712
doubt that t:b:h

>welding
>absolutely shit career
>telling a chick your profession is a welder
>she says wtf
>earns $8 after tax
>poorfag.jpeg

>>8809221
muh robots

>>8809333
employers are just like women

>>8809825
Women never admit they are wrong anon.
Even when it's obvious

>>8809536
I am so sorry dude. Columbia is such a shithole right now.

>>8807716
>slowly killing yourself in strong magnetic fields inhaling vaporized metals
>300k starting
No.
>any job i want
you mean welding?

>>8809229
Where do you live? I'm an accounting major and everyone has said we make 40k a year minimum after graduation.

>>8807739
Sergey is that you?

>>8808540
The machinist gets paid more

>>8809222
He must not be a good welder than
Most welders in my area start out making about 250K a year.
Tell your friend to get 6G certified and it is an automatic 50K a year raise

>>8811009
Fake and gay.

>>8808359
Even if you could make that much money (which you absolutely do not) we can't all be millionaire welders. Market gets flooded with welders, demand and therefore wage goes down, people find more in demand skills instead.

>>8807716
Nice OP can you teach me to weld my dick to my asshole I'll kick you a stinky linky

>>8810823
>The machinist gets paid more
NOPE!
WHY? Because they are hired on a machine operators, not Machinist.
They start at $16 like everyone else.

>>8811042
>Market gets flooded with welders,
Even with high starting wages, welders are still hard to find.
A lot of people simply lack the dexterity.
Good example is Boeing in Auburn WA.
They interviewed over 300 TIG welders and only 12 we're able to pass the necessary Certs.
Was a 0.020in wall 1in 6al 4v titanium tube to a 0.033 plate fillet.
No suck back allowed
No colors besides silver and straw.
No burn through, even H.A.S. marks.on the inside.
Single pass only

>>8807716
AI is taking over that too. They've already started. Forget the welding career. Move on from your mistake.

>>8812168
All of that in a single pass is god tier

>>8808359
Its hard work to weld steel for eight hours a day, for 10 years. You earn really well only if you do specialist stuff like gas piping, pressure etc

Same I'm dropping beads all day for 400/hr 50 hrs a week in a very low cost of living area in the Midwest

>>8812168
can you eli5?

>>8807810
>yfw the liberals come for you

>>8812168
>>8812260
It's ok, they'll buy our automated welding rigs in the next 5 years. Aerospace already delegates all of the tube welding to computerized weldheads. Oil/gas are buying the ID tube welding rigs now.
Welding as a profession is on the downward spiral

>tfw work r&d implentation

>>8812355
can you suck my pen15

>>8812443

Automated welding already exists if you're working in a factory.

On site welders will always exist because nothing is unbreakable and sometimes you can't just remove the part and ship it.

>mfw ndt tech/weld inspector and i btfo welder soybois and ruin their career
feelsgoodbro

>>8812568
Exactly, cheaper better automated processes are replacing welders. They are only getting cheaper and better, every one of those machine directly replaces some dude and a torch

>>8807716
mfw master gardener
any soil patch I want
400k/yr
only 320 gardens left till grand artisan

>>8812568
Yes, and despite their numbers dwindling since the peak in 1915, there are still horses around and working.

>>8812643
fuck some dude and a torch

>>8812692
>tfw employed in designing electronics/firmware for automated welding systems
I agree

lol at the newfags always falling for this pasta.

>>8809181
Such a software engineer role model for the future generations

>>8812260
>All of that in a single pass is god tier
I can do it right now.
My leg length is still too big by .010 or so

>>8812443
>>8812643
Nigga, the welders run the laser and auto welders.
Guess who does the fit up? Welders.
Who sets up the machine? Welders
Machine welding is also only used if a weld exceeds 18in in length.
We've been using automated welding machines since the 1960s and somehow the push for more manual welders keeps increasing.

Citation: I'm auto well certified.

>>8812881
My cert card.

>>8812897
so whats your hourly pay?

i just got my lineman apprenticeship for a union company and im starting out at 33 hourly. I will top out as a journeyman at over 50 hourly in 4 years

>>8812937
oh yeah my overtime is double time and my benefits are god tier

>>8812897
impressive

>>8812937
So I'm technically an assembler. So my pay is only $19hr. (I have a $24 job lined up) They refuse to let people change job titles so.
It's funny because I have more certs than another other welder in my building.
But the welders can easily get $27 with their level 2 promotion..
But this is all clean aerospace welding. The stick guys at local ship yards are getting around $30+ or so

>>8813145
what happened to the 300k yearly meme?

all jokes aside welding is cool but its far from the best trade to get into. Linework pays significantly more, its also extremely hard to get into. Would not recoomend this shit honestly, I got lucky landing my apprenticeship

>>8807716

you're getting ripped off, I earn at least 500k/year

talk with your union leader

>>8808359
you make good money
the catch is you are going to get some disease that no one can explain and die at 55

>>8813220
>what happened to the 300k yearly meme?
Maybe if your an under water welder.
But you can get to 100K with overtime with a normal welding job.

>>8812881
>>8812897
>muh certs, can't no robot replace me operating this here robot
Nigga I don't give a shit about your certs that's the point, in short time they will hire turbo autists to slide in the tubes and sheet metal and press the button, the setups are moving to network controlled weld profile distribution miles ahead of shitty etherCAN networks, coupled with xray weld verification that are done remotely and soon automatically. These things already exist and are getting better, sorry bout it bro.

>>8813445
Zoom in on the cert card you neanderthal.
I have 3 Autowelding certs.
I also can operate our new Wolf laser welder.
Anyone who says automation will replace jobs is stupid fucking cuck.
Automation only helps us, not replaces us.

Please refrain from making comments about manufacturing when you clearly haven't worked in a world class facility.

>>8813618
>tfw I make visits to Boeing/SpaceX/Northrop facilities frequently as they are our large clients
I suppose arguing with a welder is pointless. You probably use the equipment I designed if your 'world class' facility bought anything new in the last 5 years.

You sound like a fucking cashier saying that you cant be replaced while simultaneously using a machine that's a few steps away from not needing you there at all.

>>8813618
But don't worry anon, you can still weld muffflers onto cars with those certs in 10 years

>>8807716
>any job I want
>as long as job involve welding

>>8813848
I make make parts for everyone of to manufacturers.
SpaceX aerospace buildings are shit.
Blue origin has them beat by a mile in that aspect
Northrop Grumman is alright, but their facility hasn't gone anywhere since the 90s.
Their shadow boards aren't even standardized.

I really don't care if you took a tour with the rest of your marketing team.
I know ur a desk jockey

>>8808985
IF you dont give a shit about US, then sent out CVs to chinks asking for 300k/ year give or take unironically.

>>8809181
Are you me?
Except for the pay and lies in the resume
I have net 2k€/month

>>8807716
Another fucking meme is born. Weld done OP.

Same thread as on /pol/
your methodology really sucks ass
DONT FALL FOR THE TRADES MEME

The real money is in insurance sales
Just built my book of business with Farmers. $500k a year

>>8814115
HV lab guy, sorry. The slow march of progress is coming, you'll be able to find field work only pretty soon and then that will go away as the cost to wage equilibrium is reached. Maybe you have time, but anybody getting into welding now is fucked.

>>8814199
meh he will be a welder making decent money for the foreseeable future. A lot of trades are looking for younger people, like land surveying for example

>>8808625
Working long term in underwater conditions will cause you dementia as years pass.
It happened to my dad. He did a lot of diving for work reasons for years, and he ended very badly.
Scuba diving is good as a hobby a few times a year. Not for anything else.

You have been warned.

Why is everyone counting money by year? Isnt it easier to count by month? Cause you get your paychecks every month so you know what you make etc.

Is this a thing in USA. Or do you litterally get paid once a year?

>>8815082
I officially found the lowest iq post ever posted on biz

>>8815082
Because typically promotions and performance reviews and such take place on an annual basis. Transitions from student to real world jobs also take place according to school years.

Also >>8815106

>>8815189
dont forget taxes

>>8808540
the welder making a ton of money thing is just a meme.. the 5 ish underwater welders in the world actually making $300k/year are not the norm obviously. The oil field welders making 80-90k/year work 2 years in a single year and have no life outside of working.

thank you for being honest about your wages anon, for that I respect you.

>>8811049
kek
I wish there was a way for anons to know people audibly kek'd at their posts without having to actually make a relpy post
this is definitely an oracle solution I would work on
build a browser extension for 4chan that connects users through the chainlink oracles to tell them how many keks have been reaped that day
The future is bright, anons.