/biz/ - Business & Finance

I buy SPXL this morning, wish of luck

>>8721532
RIP

Will VVUS continue it's moon mission?

Did he tweet or are we good for a bounce?

piece of shit bpmx

>only been in the market for a week or two
>portfolio already down 10%

Why did i have to get the stock bug right at the end of a boom.

I’m going all in SQQQ as soon as the market opens

Going to buy 5000$ worth of NVCN. Wish me luck guys! It`s a great price to buy at.

Morning all

>>8721798
The pattern is never wrong

Morning!

Not sure where to look today, I got lots of free capital.

Also, Bagholder please respond, /smg/ is worried

If I understood the options right :
Today I am expecting SPY to recover
Would it be sensible to buy the 04/06 260 SPY call, regarding to the greeks and all ?

>>8721799
Haha wow my ex best friend was raped once IRL (in real life) and I didn't believe him. He turned out to be a Nazi or some s*it (shit)

Also, I am so glad I got it right about the Musk meme

>>8721915
Why tho

>>8721995
Haha that was me. Include me in the screencap. Based /r/'s ftw

>>8722013
Unfortunately, I am a brainlet
I didn't include your post in my screenshot

buy tesla now! it'll soar to $500

>>8721985
Buy straddles, you win so long as theres movement in either direction

>>8721556

I really bought those shitty Cannabis stock when they hit their all time high.

Now I have a losing margin between 30% to 100%.

About 14000$ investment now has turned into around 7000.
No end in sight.

Fucking Trump playing games with China.

What did Elon mean by this

>>8722359
see >>8721995
Before, TLSA was a mess because Musk wasn't working that much
Now, he is fully committed again to it

That is so obvious

>>8721995
Lol good job.

Guess I'm glad I didn't short it after those recalls

>>8722359
He cross creating new NASA off checklist, he back to playing with car now

Spotify about to get in, 20 min til we're there. What's your expectations?

>>8722359
Was there some tweet or something?

>>8722359
More false hope. Tesla is still a pipe dream.

>>8722396
Was it you who wanted to swing trade TSLA ?
I remember I told some anon here about a shift of sentiment (GS turned bearish, the CFO gtfo) and should wait for the new trading channel

>>8721799
yea same here, i put all of like $3k in 4 different ETFs at the end of January.

Sold them them all down 15% a week later when that weird hiccup happened.

Lesson learned: Keep short-positions in your portfolio so crashes don't hurt as much, and also some cash so you can go bargain-hunting while everyone else is crying.

>>8722447
Naw dude that wasn't me

I lost enough money trying to swing-trade, fuck that shit

>>8722421
To the moon, of course.

Gold Is Getting BTFO.

We got a Green day bois

>>8722421
The same thing that happened with dropbox, it will shoot up the first day, people will fomo in then after a couple of days it will dip back to it's original opening price and remain stagnant until the next fiscal quarter

>>8722471
>>8722501
So you buying d1 n sell d2
Get in quick and out quicker

Going Long AMD at Open. Seems like there Could be a Short Squeeze.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/amd-adds-yahoo-japan-growing-130000491.html?.tsrc=rss

News on AMD. It's Meh But It might do do something.

>>8722580
Nips have always had a soft sport for AMD.
Based.

>>8722447
That was me, I wouldnt get back on the train yet.

>>8722359
Yesterday leaked news of 2K m3 builds a week confirmed today. The funny part is they work 7 days a week to make 2K cars. Says will make 5K in 3 months. Probably tries to figure out how to slow down the time.

Lmao, GE gets a price target of 11

WHATS IT GONNA BE TODAY BOIS

FIT dropping pre market to new lows. Anybody think it's going to continue or do you guys think people are actually going to buy this shit stock?

>>8722430
>>8722359

They posted Q1 production numbers. Below the target, but still okayish, considering the many problems.

Also rebound from yesterday lmao.

Let’s go, /streambois/

Enjoying this dead cat. All green this morning.

>>8722643
Picked up a 12.50 put, let's see this company implode

>>8722726

Well, I'm off to a great start boys.

JUST

Next resistance point seems to be 7.40, we might bust through today

Why is it going uo

>>8722778
No new Trump tweets, so it just naturally bounced.

Bought 5000 dollars of nvcn at 0.055 Going to the moon guys!

>tfw I bought the AMZN dip

Yeah, I'm thinking he's back.

UHHH What the fuck why is Pep still red

>>8722882
At least Coke is doing well atm

YES

DROP LIKE A ROCK

anyone know why Western Union tanked?

I've been off the stock game for a year because lol grad school.
What hot memes are there? I remember MGT and DRYS. Made good money on those.

>>8722963
They dumped their healthcare pot, not a smart move should have just split it.

>>8722974
No more africans sending monies home ?

How long until faceberg runs into the ground?

>>8723000
Soon,. Zuck is done.

DRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Why did in the meme train

>>8722310
no you're just a retarded gambler m8

>>8722963
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

BATTLE STATIONS LADS

No google dont do that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k36sIRRdFSU

Oh shit here we goooooooo

SAY IT WITH ME: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

now Pep is green, pretty based

Oh look the orange man tweeted about amazon again, better panic sell everything

bought 6.6k shares of msft and just sold them at 18k usd loss. This market was supposed to be better than crypto...

>>8722983
It's becoming a comedy of errors

>>8723050

No please, I can't take any more of it, it won't fit.

w2c Spotify shares?

>>8723101
ticker is SPOT
nothing as yet

>accidently put an extra $350 on robinhood the 23rd last month
>still can't transfer it back to my bank account because of AML holding period
how much more time is left?

>>8723066
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Fuck trump tweeted knew I should've bought puts

Does today confirm a bear market? Learn to put and short i guess

This Crypto Bounce Should of Sent AMD UP
Did Trump Tweet about AMD?

Like clockwork. You'd think eventually people would learn not to buy before 10.

>>8723168

>>8723168
AMD is being shitted on because crypto has proven to be a piece of shit and because of the Apple news

>>8721798
penny stocks are for dumb fucks.

>>8723168
AMD will be kill when new algorithm mining
Also apple is no longer going to use intel/AMD chips but their own
Press F for AMD

>>8723146

How can he be so dense? Postal services around here in Germoney get showered with money thanks to AMZN and its peers. How should that be any different in the US??

Buy SNAP?

>>8723181
>>8723168

>>8723201
"No."

Whats his problem?

"Hey I see you kids had some fun on the market eh. You remind me of myself at your age he he. Well better luck next time kiddo"

>>8723199
man I wish I was Kushner's New York Jew friend right now. Imagine all the short trades you can be setting up knowing just what the fuck Trump will tweet and do in advance

>>8722580
Yahoo is practically a zombie company that's not news worthy of a stock price shooting up.

Robinhod really needs to change how the options menu opens, I don't give a shit about the "Discover" tab

>>8722488
>Gold Is Getting BTFO
i had an autism about this the other day.

gold IS getting BTFO again.
but it does seem like its building though, doesnt it? ive been watching it. since the beginning of the year its been bouncing between a tight support and resistance since 2018 started. and the support actually just tightened up this last run. there must be a lot of buyers. the thing with gold is that since its run, its been trapped under 1350/oz. this is because most of the gold in the world is held by central banks and the IMF. they are constantly lending it and just generally getting rid of it, hence it is being shorted at that level. think of it like crypto in terms of whales (actually gold is even MORE controlled than some cryptos in this regard).

so we combine this fact and we can account for the permanent resistance. but like i said, the support just tightened up, and it ran up to 1350/oz in a day. must be a result of the panic and inflation that is going on. but its still stuck because central bankers short it.

now, imagine how many people must have fuck huge limits set on the far side of that 1350/oz, to have a last minute ohshit button against a huge sudden dollar collapse/gold breakout. i believe it has the potential to breakout a little, but only if the banks stop selling it. the problem is, i cant figure out whether or not central banks would continue to sell it in a fiat collapse. since they have literally most of it (and assuming that it would be adopted again as a general currency), they could continue to sit on it (which would allow them to raise the price of gold) or short it. thus they would still have absolute control over all wealth in the world. literally nothing would change.

TL;DR even in fiat collapse scenario, i think well still have to deal with these assholes.

>>8722062
The fuck you talkin about

>>8723252
USD has popped a lot this morning
I wonder if investors are going long USD to meet margin calls from the market correction

Went from 8k green to red again. This is going to be a long day.

>>8723168
>not riding the crypto wave with TSM

they make chips for both nvidia and amd.

>>8723174
Nuuuuuuu! T_T
What worse it somehow buy SPXL @ 39.10 when it open @ 38.55 ??
?_?

Rip first stock buy

>>8723300
lol
I am basically bagholding my entire portfolio at this point

>>8723273
Why does he lie so much? Fucking Post Office has been on the verge of bankruptcy for decades, Amazon business is helping keep it afloat. And Amazon DOES pay state taxes, wtf is this dude on?

>>8723285
Buy a put and a call ATM, you will win in any large swing in either direction, you are net neutral until then.

>>8723273
Bloomberg did the math on it, Amazon is actually profitable for USPS.

>>8723252
kek, in other words, whales are accumulating

>A M D

>>8723322
Don't do this. It creates mustard gas.

>>8723313
>>8723327
hes going after Jeff Bezos for owning the washington post

>>8723341
Don'y Worry, 21% of the shares are sold short, they have to Cover someday.

Quick, buy Macy's while Trump is tweeting about Amazon.

>>8723293
wouldnt surprise me at all. i was bearish and i didnt expect a drop like that. that was pretty brutal. we were halfway to the circuit breaker, and really just barely rallied. would make sense that people would need to cash out en masse to cover margins/take up positions outside of stocks.

>>8723331
its different though, because in this case the whales have been accumulating over thousands of years, and have since teamed up through the central banking system. the whales HAVE accumulated. its just hard to tell what they are doing next unless you can see what the central banks are doing with all of their gold.

AMD a solid buy a $sub 5 calling that now

When is spot going on the market and what are my /smg/ bros expecting the opening price to be?

>>8723410
sometime today
around 140/share

>>8723404
In fact, the logic should me like this :
- go long US equities on margin
- sell the USD to invest elsewhere

>Emperor Trump twitted something !
>Time to buy back USD and face the Bogs' margin call

>>8723410
i dont know how much of a run they are going to get, but i havent really looked into it much desu.

is spotify even that popular anymore?

>>8723301
oh shit That non-stop rise

>>8723460
yes, many people use it.

ITS NOT GONNA HOLD IS IT?

WERE GONNA BE RED BY NOON ARENT WE

Why is UNIT tanking?
How can I reduce exposure to the housing sector?
It's past the strike date, should I sell all my shares (avg price 16.2) and buy in at the next low?

Or am I find and should just hold on

>>8723507
Market never really bottoms on Monday. And it's the beginning of the month, when retirement money comes in. It's ugly.

>>8723507
unless something goes really wrong, today should be sideways or up slightly. i cant see why we would have another day like yesterday. seems clam for now.

>>8723538
look at the holdings that each REITs have. judge which ones you want to hold off of that.

>>8723273
dumb as his voting base.

Is there some kind of leveraged short ETF for these red days?

Is AMD actually worth buying? GPU sales are tanking with crypto and that's why AMD's price was so inflated to begin with.

>>8723570
Build wall with your AMD bags hombre

It's just a ploy to short Amazon

>>8723570
bezos deserves a bullet though desu

>>8723588
thats what i heard

>>8723587

I'd buy at $6/share

>>8723034
Everything is a gamble.

>>8723327
does anyone have this math? id like to see it. i see USPS running amazon shit on sundays all the time now. i cant imagine its profitable to be paying overtime to half staff on what used to be a day off. it simply doesnt make any sense

I wanted Spotify but I bought Shopify instead. Whatever

>>8723313
Did you ever wonder who was on the other end of the line?

>>8723637

kek

>he didnt buy the dip

ICFI has some good momentum building. Pretty easy swing trade this week.

>>8723635
I just heard it on their live stream, don't know if the numbers are available anywhere.

>since one month ago: up 30%
Nice
>since one year ago: down 40%

I'm just not very good at this stock thing, am I?

>>8723619
Well, it's an obvious buy at that price. Crypto would have to really shit the bed to get that far down, though.

It's pretty sad how AMD is at the mercy of crypto rather than what their products are actually supposed to do (make Nvidia/Intel look good).

>>8723682
right.
that kind of shit doesnt sit well with me. id like to see the numbers. fuck this listen and believe shit. its not like bezos owns media outlets or have influence in the field of media or anything like that...

>>8723689
it takes a lot of practice

>>8723689
I went from 25k to 20k since last year. Closed my shorts like UVXY right before the correction and greedily held onto obvious sells like LTBR until I went negative on them.

I mostly blame my job for distracting me.

So is this dip actually the final dip?

>>8723635
I know a postal worker and they have a special package delivery position now where you have to work Sundays at a premium. They don't have big enough trucks like UPS and FedEx so they got used vehicles like crossovers and make multiple runs a day. A lot of the smaller local offices and our regional sorting office had to be shutdown so all mail is routed to the capital main office even if it's intra city and trucked back up here. It's a mess.

>>8723693
>It's pretty sad how AMD is at the mercy of crypto rather than what their products are
do you realize AMD was a penny stock before the crypto hype? you really think the company is that great? seriously fucking think about how it was trading before the crypto hype............ seriously.................................

>>8723727
for now. just stay on your toes. i think tomorrows gonna be really green

Soda stocks dipping while everything else rises again WTF

>>8723637
That's exactly why the stock isn't worth it's current value

>>8723749
It's the dumb fucks $14AMD bag holders are what's causing the "dip" when it's just returning back to it's original worth.

Clear Skies

I want to buy a ton of puts on MU when it peaks today. Sell them tomorrow or the day after when we start dropping again. Thoughts?

>>8723775
Misquote top post was meant for
>>8723693

>>8723727
I'm from the future. The ES bottom is 2450
>>8723792
I'm long from $50. couldn't see it staying under $45 barring any bad news

>>8723775
>It's the dumb fucks $14AMD bag holders are what's causing the "dip" when it's just returning back to it's original worth.
>original worth
original worth will be about.. threefiddy

>>8721915
wishing you luck, i have 11,500 shares

>>8723742
yeah see this is the kind of stuff ive heard too, and from talking to postmen. it seems like a raw deal. it may "keep the doors open" so to speak, but it still cannot be profitable are pleasant for the already overworked staff. it seems more like they (USPS) are cornered into doing the bidding of amazon and running their packages for them for basically nothing in return. they are allowed to continue living

the trades that just went through LIGA.......

Fuck the USPS I haven’t written a letter since my parents made me write birthday thank you notes to my family. That was years ago and I haven’t needed the USPS since then. Just privatize the shipping industry even more if I want to send mail I can pay out of pocket instead of my taxes subsidizing this bullshit piss office crap

>>8723844
It's a very raw deal, burnout and turnover is really high right now. The only constant workers are dudes close to retirement who just can't quit.

>>8723792
the semis short was a good move last week. thats what i did. but be careful. its is a STRONG industry. you never know when people will rush back to buying it up to ATHs. and many of these companies are dirt cheap right now. they havent been down here in months. additionally, a lot of short interest still on many of them. be careful of squeezes

Don't miss the boat

WHO BAGHOLDING FOR LIFE HERE
LOST TOO MUCH TO SELL NOW

HODL

>>8723919
why the oil bullishness?
We are in a Lithium era now.

>>8723954

post screenshot of positons

>>8723954
GE bag holder reporting. Bought the false bottom in Feb and feel like an idiot. But I've already lost too much to sell now.

Will be bag holding for the foreseeable future. So heavy...

>>8723844
Yeah don't change your failed underlying business model or anything just get president Cheeto baby to whine that it's not fair. This empire has run it's course, I'm ready for the fall.

Holy shit Spotify $160.
No way it can maintain it's valuation.

>>8724044
I wish I knew how options worked to take advantage of thi

>>8724044
too bad you can't buy options till after 5 days

>>8723706
if you wanted to see the numbers literally just go to their fucking website, it's not a conspiracy
http://about.usps.com/news/national-releases/2017/pr17_069.htm

revenue for packages has increased

>>8724044
>Holy shit Spotify $160.
>No way it can maintain it's valuation.
whats their valuation?

if there is only 100shares out than thats low, if here are 100000000shares out than sure it might be high

kek
>The New York stock exchange tried to put up the Swedish flag as a good will gesture to Spotify. It put up the Swiss flag instead.

>>8723773
Appetite for soft drinks and snacks transformed into appetite for risk m8

>>8724162
fug

>>8724122
Pandora's Market cap is 1 billion.
This is 30+

if users have a sudden change of taste, it's fucked.

Anyone having brokerage issues? Spotify has zero volume no price change

>>8724101
i was saying it was more a raw deal for the workers

>>8724189
>>8724122

They don't even make money, all they do is bleed out capital to pay for royalties. This is going to be worse than SNAP.

>>8724223
These are Federal Employees.
These niBBas are set for life.

>>8724241
Did SPOT management give some guidance on how to be profitable in the prospectus ?

Maria Purisima madre de Dios

Let there me a Short Squeeze on AMD

>>8723954
Chillin with AMRS, no losses, no drama, every dip comes back up.
Green in a red market.

>tfw contemplated TVIX this morning
Thank fucking Jesus.

>>8723974
Fuck me, same here. I have too much in GE.

So... what should I buy

>>8724223
> muh poor postman dindu muffin
literally they are the only public or private organization in the entire country to have their benefits and benefits guaranteed and prepaid (including future employees) for the next 75 fucking years

spotify indications keep climbing, i see 165+ now.

>>8724335
You realize you can sell that for a loss, then put the money in a 3x leveraged sp500 and most likely make it back, right?

>>8724301
What is funny with AMRS intraday price movement is that somewhere in the morning you see a dip into the 6.5-6.6 territory and then it goes back up to 6.70

It has been like that since the ER.

Next date to monitor : 4/9 for an investor conference in Europe

>>8724380
someone is propping it up to bring up bids and then selling chunks into the bid..

>yfw the optimism dies and today tests a new low

>>8724368
160 X 165 indication. That's crazy.

>>8724417
would not surprise me in the least. we're heading down 10-15% over the next week. all sectors will bleed out

>>8724414
And the fact it is really a repeated patters shoud be a giant red flag right ?

Also, AMRS just issused a notice of late 10-K submission

I want to buy spoofity

the month of april is autism month.... just so all you autist know

>>8722454
You bought some of the most volatile funds on the market, and were surprised they were - wait for it - volatile? And then sold off, and missed the bounce back up, as ETFs are the first to recover, and can swing back higher than they started?

Dang, son. You really don't know what you're doing, do you?

But it's okay, you're the kind of sucker that helps grease the wheels of the real traders.

>>8724414
are you talking about the pre market action? i noticed something going on there. if you see it again and have lvl 2 screencap it for me, if ya could? very interested to see that, and i dont have a way to look at it. but ive been noticing those very early PM spikes that just disappear by the time everyone wakes up.

my other thought was it could be institutional buyers buying at a higher percentage than the market. but i never see volume either way on my charts, so i cant tell if its buy or sell

>>8724241
With that Cash from the Stock Sale on the books it may give it enough Capital to come up with something.

I hope they come up with Lossless streaming and corner the Audiophile market share.

>>8724342
I can tell none of you anons has ever had the 'pleasure' of dealing with your local postal workers. Fuck these entitled, lazy worthless pieces of trash. Fucking postmen who leave packages at the wrong address because they don't want to walk down the block to the right house. Workers at the office who have never heard of customer service or quickly serving someone so the fucking line is always out the door. This is a dying 'service' that should have been put out of it's misery long ago. Use tax money to pay for free flat mail and leave the packages and bigger stuff to the real package delivery companies.

>>8724501
yeah i chuckled when someone said they were "overworked".
public sector employees are never overworked.

comfiest hodls

>>8724501
>>8724519

ive met plenty of people that worked at the post office. it seems incredibly disorganized, mismanaged and fucked up to all hell and back. but thats not necessarily the fault of the workers. im not one to kill the carrier.

>>8723300
It's gonna be a long quarter. My reps for my 401ks both said that they expect it to be choppy, as the market settles down from the couple of weeks. If you're day trading, learn to have balls of steel or get the fuck out. Choppy waters are for the real sharks, you December minnows are gonna get eaten real fast. And I'm gonna laugh my balls off while you do it.
You lost all your money on crypto, now you're gonna lose all of your money on the stock market.

>>8724485
>>8724454
the late 10-k in my opinion is poor management, they are a publicly traded company after all..

the stock price floating up then dropping seems as if whoever is selling their position is waiting for price to come up for them to sell, they can't sell all their shares at once or it'll crash the price so they have to slowly sell it out

>>8724549
delusion

>>8724375
>3x leveraged sp500

You do realise we are no longer in a bull market right? Just buying indices won't cut it anymore, especially if you go in with leverage. I'm also not certain even if I took a loss and got some of the money back, I can trade in a market beating manner. I've got other positions and trading actively this past few weeks, barely breaking even on most of them.

What did they Mean By this?

Are there any kind anons here with access to L2?

LIGA and RSII

fucking love penny stocks

did have to sell some GRCK at a loss tho

>>8724581
breaching the MA is a pretty bearish indicator

>>8724581
probably that the RSI looks overbought. idk man just use real indicators, those speedometers are silly as fuck

>>8724594
>>8724605
I always Buy when these are flashing in the Absolute Red.

>>8721915
F

>>8723273
lmao congrats on this burgers

>>8724550
Management is always fucked up when the government is involved.
Tenure systems that encourage the most incompetent to become the most powerful.
It's impossible to fire anyone

it's no coincidence that the private sector always wins out.

>>8724623
thats probably the right idea. most financial advice and news stuff like that is a lagging indicator to the point that you should do exactly the opposite of it

>>8724580
>we are no longer in a bull market
uhhhh thats where youre wrong
Why the fuck are you in GE if you dont think this is a bull market?

>>8723313
He's not lying. The Post Office has operated in the red for decades, and Amazon is just making it more red. It's not keeping it afloat, it's in the red, period - to be keeping it afloat, it would have to be breaking even, which it's not. Amazon has used every angle they can find to profit, and they do need to be reined in a bit. The whole tax thing is a build up to getting congress to pass an e-commerce bill, which amazon and all the other online retailers are fighting. I use Amazon CONSTANTLY, and I pay very little sales tax, and I always check off the "I did no commerce on the internet" thing on my tax forms. That's what Trump is gonna go after, and this is all just the prelude to that.

Wake the fuck up. Trump ALWAYS has an agenda, and it's always pretty clear what he's thinking.

And, Amazon IS destroying small shops and businesses.

Again, with Trump, you can't take what he says at face value. His agenda is what matters, and he's telegraphing what he's gonna be working on in the future - post office reform, e-commerce taxes, and revitalizing small business. Amazon is just his convenient punching bag - he probably sits in the Oval Office and thinks "They make enough money there, they can afford to take a hit for a while". That's how Trump operates, and has for decades. All you little faggots act like this is new behavior for him.

>>8724473
I actually don't, I'm pretty new to this. I'm a computer science student and don't have all that much cash. This is a hobby for me, but I enjoy gaining in experience.

I learned a lot from that mistake, and I'm glad that it only cost me $500 and not $50,000 like some of these other fools

grats to everyone buying the "dip" i really hope someone will not fuck you in the ass with a new low next week

>>8724677
i think your probably right. its in line with his management style, just unorthodox for a presidency.

regardless of anyones position on the president, amazons horizontal expansion into every type of market is out of control, and should be dealt with.

i have a 15x leveraged short on SNAP im up 210% already lmao, how low can this piece of shit possibly fall? its back to where it was in February before the huge boost, might find support here and i should close my position but god damn I kind of want to ride this garbage straight into the ground they seem to have no idea what they are doing

>>8724715
Ok listen up retard
Whenever the market is down, buy VIX and Gold.
I shouldn't have to explain this basic shit to you.
If you invest now, hoping for a miracle,
Sorry to put this to you but you are buying into a cascading waterfall.
Wait for the optimal time to strike

>>8724677
Wipe that orange cum off your upper lip MAGA fag.

>>8724375
I’m loaded on spxl at 37.75 and sitting comfy as fuck

>>8724755
if his timeframe is long enough he is invariably right though. equities arent nearly as controlled as gold

>>8724755
kill yourself faggot pathetic gold shill

>>8724715
if your pretty new to this, make less moves. You are not smarter than the market, nobody here is, this is exactly waht Buffet says too. Hes not better than the markets, he makes very slow and long term moves, you should be holding shit for at minimum months. You can mess with leveraged ETFs if you want during clear bull or bear markets, but we are moving sideways in a very volatile way right now, this is the exact time you should be OUT of leveraged ETFs.

>>8724750
wasn't Cramer shilling the fuck out of it?

>>8724766
good, 2500 SP500 is most likely the lowest will go

>>8723273

Is he going to come out tomorrow and say the world is flat?

>>8724677
>>8724735
>unorthodox

how in the hell could anyone with eyes or ears believe that Trump has any semblance of a clue to what he's doing.
his strategy is literally "my supporters are too dumb to know the difference"

mind blowing what people let politics do to them

Right now if you haven't moved your money to long-term puts, you are just throwing it away.
Buying this little dip? Retarded.We haven't even dropped to 2017 levels to justify a buy.

>>8724772
Braindead

>>8724750
when someone sounds this confident i know it's time to sell my puts and by some calls, just my honest opinion

>>8724772
golds fun to swing though. its like a clock. especially those triple leveraged gold miner etfs

>>8724805
I know, but I dont tolerate raiding shills

>>8724750
no part of my post was overly confident lol

im curious other peoples opinions on the stock SNAP thats all

>>8724816
T.moron

>>8724820
if youve traded snap before you know this is almost the bottom before they start squeezing again
so... Id take profits

>>8724501
My area is shit for the USPS. If I order off Amazon and the shipping says "USPS", I know it's probably going to be late, not get delivered, or delivered to the wrong place, or it will be in my mailbox, mangled and chewed up. If shipping is by Amazon, it's on time, early, not chewed up, and on my doorstep, with a photo to prove it got delivered.
I know USPS "quality" can vary region to region, and also down to each truck/carrier. We had THE WORST carrier for our area, she (fat sassy black woman" would just shove shit into our mailboxes and wreck shit. I guess enough people complained, because we have an asian dude who does a little better now. A little. He mangles some stuff, but not as much.

Used to worse. Our regional hub must have been completely fucked. I once did a test - I had my mom send a postcard from her place in NY to me here in CA - one to my office half a mile away, and one to my apartment. The one for the office made it in 3 days. The one to my apartment? 3 WEEKS. Turns out they go to different hubs, my office and apartment are on the edge of the line where the two coverage areas meet.
But you keep defending THE MOST dysfunctional department in the entire united states government.

>>8724755
thanks guy, i already have gold bars.

i don't even care about the price, i like how shiny they are

>>8724776
thanks dude, that's the plan now. My longs are all down a little bit, but idgaf.

i am comfy about having shorted Snap Inc. at like 20 bucks, gonna stay in that trade for sure..

>>8724800
he's run over 500 successful companies, how many do you own?

>>8724820
i made bank with my puts, i think SNAP has alot to proove to the market and will continue to fall, but stocks go up and down...

>>8724825
I know you are but what am I?

>>8724800
i dont seem to think things are nearly as out of control as you do, i guess. or atleast, no less or more than it was before. the idea that presidents or global leaders know what theyre doing seems to be a myth. why else would everything be all fucked up? no one person or country specifically is in control of anything, and its constantly shifting.

the fact that you think the current times are any more or less volatile than the last decade shows that you havent been paying attention at all

>>8724633
Don't forget affirmative action hires. The USPS is full of "people of color" who know they can't be fired.

>>8724849
hahahha you poor poor people.

>>8724816
schiffposting is a art

>>8724715
Listen to >>8724776
He's right. If you are new then stop playing with complex financial products like leveraged ETFs, or options, or short positions, or whatever else you've read about on investopedia and think you understand, because you don't.

Buy some shares on a fundamentally strong company, go long for a few months and see how you did. Remember the short term market is just a popularity contest, long term it's a weighing machine. Much easier to bet correctly over long term like Buffet did.

And for the love of God, >>8724715
is absolute NOT the lesson you ought to be learning. Hedging is complicated and don't always work well, even for the pros. If you think you've got it down then prepare to get burned.

>>8724877
0? What a surprise.

>>8724833
o shit, when are earnings gonna come out?

>>8724875

>black people are why the USPS is failing

not in favor of affirmative action, but you are complete retard. Also, I'm pretty sure it's next to impossible to get fired from any government job regardless of your skin color.

Try /pol/

>>8724849
>notorious corporate raider
>Successful

>>8724656
We're in a transitional phase that could go bear very easily. Some say it's a hiccup and that we're in the middle of a 20 year bull run, the other end of the spectrum are the people who are convinced the whole thing is gonna crash.
Pick your spot, and trade accordingly.
Me, I'm all longed with traditional investments. I don't want or need to puke my guts out daily during times like this. I'm going with "hiccup". If my shit goes down, eh, I have plenty of time to wait for it to go back up. I'm not trying to make a living off it day trading.

Remember, you call bear markets after several months of activity, not a week.

>>8724677
Amazon has been collecting state taxes for ages now and Walmart has killed more small businesses than AMZN has. Ironically, the taxes they aren't collecting are for the small business affiliates. Amazon offers services to help collect those taxes, which the affiliates will be forced to use.

>>8724860
are you kidding?
Trump spent a year getting on stage campaigning, speaking for hours
proving Every Single Night that he had no fucking clue about any of the subject matter he was speaking on.

You have zero idea of the ling term effects hes having
half of his cabinet is empty, half of the agency heads haven't been appointed.
China is becoming the new leader of the planet and getting a 10 year head start on alternative power. etc etc etc
I could write you 10 pages right now on how shockingly incompetent he is across all different subjects

Saying he is destructively clueless is The understatement of a lifetime.

>>8724909
We're talking about Trump, not Romney honey.
And Romney was quite successful at what he did, only the numbers matter at EOD.

>>8724755
VIX is down today, stupid. VIX is the horn bet of the stock market (it's a craps term, google it). You're just another December child who read a couple Investopia articles, and think you're a big balls dog day trader.
Both of your suggestions, VIX and gold, are getting hammered like watery shit right now.

Just stop posting, kid.

>>8724913
It cant go bear easily. SP500 would have to go under 2470 for an extended period of time and using all probability tools and historical data theres no reason to think we are even close to a bear market

>>8724939
Buddy. If they dont see it by THIS point, they never ever ever will. Its simple brainwash, they dont know any better.

>Le you can't beat the market meme

Good goy. Just keep holding bags while we pull out. It will really pay off 5 years from now!

>>8724759
Hurrr derrr you got me thar!

>>8724800
Knee jerk politics like yours have no business in business or investing. Back to /pol, retard. They might care there.

It's time for that lunchtime checkup!

What're you eating, how're you doing?

I'm having a taco salad and I'm doing okay. I bought puts on GE and after it hit 13.05 it's dropping again so I'm confident I'll make some cash. I'm honestly having a lot of fun with puts.

why is everyone itt so salty toward each other today??

>>8724990
Fuck the others

>>8724939
yeah... but not signing the bill that would literally let china use as much coal as they wanted while tying the hands of USA.
let's give the sophmore lib arts student control of our economic policy.

anyway, you can't seem to stop blaming him for your losses, have you tried
>>>/pol/
?

>>8724985
i just ate a big breakfast burrito, happy you are here, everyone is being ass holes toward each other itt today

>>8724939
hey im very bearish on the market, but i dont think its nearly as gloom and doom as the rest of you guys. the global powers are shifting thats for sure, but EVERYONE has been making moves. including the US. things are about to change, but i have long term faith in the US

you pay too much attention to fear mongering. the sky isnt falling. in fact its people like you that are bringing the market down selling off of tweets like children. granted we needed a correction anyways, but now every hiccup or fart from the man warrants a crash, its ridiculous. everyone is just fucking obsessed

>>8724990
Because volatility

ICFI is picking up more and more volume. I hope you all listened.

>>8725013
kek
when you stare into the candlesticks too long...

any other canadian options traders here? thinking of taking out some puts on WEED. TO

>>8724489
Is the audiophile niche really that important?

>>8724933
They collect SOME state taxes. Have you even bothered to look into it? The MSM is all over it this morning. Amazon doesn't collect state sales tax for their third party sellers, who make up one third of the sellers on the platform, and growing. That's a pretty significant chunk of tax revenue that's lost - and why the Congress is making noise again about e-commerce taxes.

Stop lecturing people when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>8724942
?

>>8724939
Blah blah blah, another long winded liberal is bloviating again.

Just shut the fuck up, Hillary! fan. She lost. Get the fuck over it.

>>8725006
It's probably people being restless and trying to not look at their portfolio's, they need a distraction so they come here.

>>8724959
I didn't say it was close to a bear market, now did I? I said we're in a transitional phase, and bear markets take months to call. Go neckbeard at someone else.

>>8724942
Peter Lynch Lists him as a Corporate Raider.

>>8724984
>>8725002
haha I make plenty, im up 14k over the last 4 months.
And im not a liberal, i'm just a guy who sits in awe at the stupidity of people who vote against their own self interest.
im begging them to take more of my money in taxes.

"not all gloom and doom"
"its fear mongering"
"its not so bad"
All fucking stupid as all fuck.

there's an emo 13 year old in the white house who didn't give enough of a shit to do his homework or learn about any of the important subject matter of the tests in front of him, who is in all likely hood owned by Russia..
And all you have to say is "not so bad"

but ill say no more, as someone above said if you cant see it by now, im wasting my time.

>>8725037
No. Very low value market.

B-Based

CNBC shills keep talking SPOT price will be like 160$, but my online brokerage is quoting 132, why the hell is that?

>>8725076
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the /smg/ threads, and I’ve been involved in numerous pump and dumps on Nasdaq, and I have over 300% confirmed gains. I am trained in technical analysts, fundamental analyst on memes and I’m the top trader in the entire US stock markets. You are nothing to me but just another retail trader. I will wipe the fuck out of your portfolio with precision the likes of which has never been seen before in this market, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of brokers across the world and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your investments. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I will short all your holdings seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my one hand. Not only am I extensively trained in going long and short on memes, but I have access to the entire arsenal of options on my brokerage account and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable portfolio off the face of the market, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will short stock all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>8725076
i think we got a couple more bumps before we straighten back out though. this schizophrenic market is here to stay in the near term

>>8725084
Blah blah blah, the liberal has more to spout off about.

Go back to /pol, retard. They might care there.

>>8725076
Calm the fuck down dude I wasnt even arguing with you

>>8725084
Never underestimate human stupidity.

>>8725099
And
>calling everyone who isnt blind a liberal
Grow up nigga

>>8725083
my bad. he's a corporate raider. but isn't that a small portion of his profits? he manages tons of hotels.
>>8725084
tl;dr

today fucking sucks, i'm about to go get high and work on my garden

NO NO NO NO!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

My calls and my puts are both doing shitty, fuck this stonk market

>>8725097
Thats what both of my account reps for my 401ks said, and they're usually right for longer term trends. (And yes, I know, they're biased, I'm pretty good at fending off their "I have an idea" calls) They have to be, to keep their clients happy. They both said this quarter will be choppy, but we should be back to stability by Q3. They're not calling a bear market, and I tend to agree with them, with the overall economic outlook.

Spotify to the moon?

>>8725105
i think were getting raided desu. all the chans have been getting fucked with the last couple days. everyone is branching out and messing with the other chans while theirs are down/getting raided

>>8722454
>buy high sell low
You didn’t learn shit and won’t make it.

>>8725121
/pol just called, they're missing a retard. Is it you?

>>8725136
[Ringing Intensifies]

>>8725039
Did you even read my post?

>>8725084
Imagine being this reddit

>>8721995
I'm still bearish on TSLA, he still isn't meeting the promised production goals, not to mention even if he does the margins from Model 3's are basically in the negative.

>>8725146
haha, see>>8725095

>>8722983
It was a split, they didn’t sell everything.

>>8723375
Bought at 9.82 thought it will bounce. I am hurting now. I am holding until 9.08 with a stop limit hopefully it doesn't go that low. God help us all.

>>8725141
yep im just gonna do my research, look for things that will do good with rising rates and inflation, hedge the longs i got for now and wait for a sign. still too early to tell whats gonna happen next

>>8725150
What are you talking about goofball, pol supports trump. People are too dumb to insult.

>>8725183
Don't let your broker know where the Stops are, use a mental stop instead.

https://youtu.be/TzKQwttv9IA?t=159

>>8725056
>>8725076
>>8725056
Ummm, listen sweetie. You can take your argument over to /pol/ to get a nice handy with a side of tendies, or you can stfu and just be short FAANG, while screening for some momentum swing trades to make. Oh and for the record, orange cheeto man is more than willing to crash the market.

>>8725168
This company is about raising more money not any business. If they can't raise money for whatever reason, they are worthless. If they can, they will prolong this pump and dump. You are trading a very hard stock. If you are new at this, find something easier. I wouldn't even hold outright short in it. I buy puts. It's safer. Being short this pos outright is a widowmaker trade.

Fuck Trump and fuck white people
dont forget to buy Gold and the VIX

>26 percent

>>8725145
case in point >>8725345

>>8725356
its the next meme, calling it

>>8725345
>Fuck Trump and fuck white people
heres your (you)

New
>>8725397

>>8725397

>>8725397

>>8725372
no
the next meme is going to be pretending to be russian hackers and invading every mainstream website. the lulz have evloved beyond mere memetics.

>>8725432
stop arguing everyone, SPOT is now trading

>>8725345
>she lost

>>8724077
I've got 1520 shares so unlucky bucko. You can have them for $220 ea if you want

>>8724833
i havent bt i was looking at the past price and yeah we are right at the valuation before the last rocket upwards....ill probably try to get a sell at just under $14 and be happy. What happened in February anyways, why the huge jump? its never seemed like they can figure out how to monetize the app