/biz/ - Business & Finance

Dead cat bounce. It is a scam.

Look at their "solution"

>>8704624

Yeah, can this shit die already and stop pumping?

>>8704624
because btc is going up retard and all alts are tied to btc

>>8704640
Tarek isn't even on the team. He's waiting for clarification via the medium article just like everyone else is.

>>8704624
Because it was hinted at for weeks that JNT wasn't going to be directly backed by institutional money. It's still highly undervalued.

>>8704624
I got the last of my buy orders in at 2.4k last night. Fuck you guys and your lame ass FUD.

>>8704676
>People told me at 8k satoshis it is highly undervalued
>Same story at 7k
>6k
>5k
>4k
>3k
Now the fundamentals of the project have changed and JNT could be obsolete and we dropped to 2.5k satoshis

>Recovery to 2.7k satoshis
MOON MISSION CONFIRMED

>>8704682
Nobody could answer the question why jBond would be prefered over jCash, after jCash failed. Keep on digging your own grave

>>8704624
Taking screenshots for the future reference. Can't wait to laugh at them some months down the road. Keep at it.

not buying your bags

>>8704706
Don't get me wrong I'm not happy about the current news. It went from a potentially 1000-5000 dollar token to a potentially 3-5 dollar token. I still think it's undervalued right now though.

>>8704716
That question's been answered, and if you understand this project, it makes sense.

jBonds do not face the same regulatory hurdles, making them to foreign investors and individuals. They are potentially much more lucrative as well. Get rekt fag.

>>8704761
*making them available

>>8704640

Wait, so they will put in their own money/JNT to try and cover the broken 'proof of solvency' ?(Which will ironically make them insolvent in the long run now)

>>8704761
you think institutional money is going to risk hundreds of mill on volatil jBonds when they can just go with jCash. Don't think they'd be too happy risking a 20% loss everytime btc dumps

>>8704664
Terek is a soyboy cuck getting all defensive and bitchy at anyone questioning this ponzi

>>8704640
Yazan and Talal both fleed the telegram as soon as people started asking why on chain solvency can't work for jcash but would work for jbonds.
Fucking cowards

>>8704761
Hahahah
the typical "regulatory hurdles" meme, explain to me what regulatory hurdles have to do with this.
Onchain solvency is an economical mechanism (BS of course which won't work but whatever), it doesn't care about the regulation. It doesn't matter if you tokenize cash or elehpant horns. It either works or it doesn't.
>well hmmm it work but not in this bear market he he
so it's worthless, no one will put his money in risk because this ponzi tumbles down during a bear market lol
Stop changing subject and fooling others.

>>8704829
They are different instruments for different purposes. I'm not a deluded fanboy.

>they unironically thought the news was bad
you guys are gonna neck yourselves if you don't buy back in. thankfully it will probably continue to bleed until the medium post.

>>8704624
If even 20% of the SEED money is put in jBonds, that'll be enough to send to mcap to almost ATH (and probably would change the sentiment to strongly positive and people will FOMO to breach ATH), people are waiting until next medium update to see details on SEED and ultimately if they'll be massive bagholders or not

>>8704761
>>8704868
Wtf are you talking about? Nobody even closely answered the question.

If you think regulation would result into more jBonds then i feel real sorry for your assumption.

And jNode subscriptions nor jGas can close the shortfall of JNT in a longer bear market. This is just smoke and mirror, but keep up your delusion. A lot of people can learn from you.

>>8704829
>you think institutional money is going to risk hundreds of mill on volatil jBonds when they can just go with jCash. Don't think they'd be too happy risking a 20% loss everytime btc dumps

Tarek (admin) said it will be answered in the medium post.

Large wallets are getting fatter. You idiots fell for the FUD again. Its going to be extra sweet once this takes off and i cant come back and laugh at your dumbasses

>>8705042
I'm a fudder and I agree that it's undervalued.

But the moon potential of this coin is gone. They've always said that they're targeting institutional money. Jcash is their product for institutional money. Jbonds are gonna be a relatively small market share.

I can find a better home for my money. Especially if trhey continue on this trajectory.

>>8704868
Right jCash wont be reflected in the mcap and jBond will be. That's the different. Obviously you have to find out why anybody will use jBond otherwise you will never benefit from any tokenizing.

>But you are not a deluded fanboy

>>8705042
Hi Terek. He literally just posted what you said worded differently in the telegram. He's so full of shit right now kek. He's resorted to whales are accumalating bro xd!! I still think it's undervalued but god dam now I just want the admins to STFU.

>>8705078
Tarek**

>>8705042
why is following the smart money so hard for biz brainlets? these kids truly think they're smarter than the big dogs, kek.

guarantee the medium post will btfo this weak fud.

>>8705001
My bet is that there will be more than 20%, but instead JNT will still continue to sink.

Nobody is ever going to use this token for anything

>>8705072
Yes, that's correct. So what makes jBonds valuable? If you can't answer that for yourself....then don't invest in JNT.

>>8705106
My bet is 0% Because they said the main problem is regulatory hurdles.

>>8705042
whale are acyoumelatiiing

>>8705094
proof how many jnt you have

>>8705126
Nobody can answer this question right now. I am certain that not even the co-founders have one.

The have created jBond in panic mode because the bear market was way too long to overcome the shortfall of JNT. A lot of anons warned about the black swan day and plenty of people laughed at them. Now we have the day and there is no solution.

But, you with your 1k JNT are able to answer the question, sure. :)

Its increasing by the second. Glad i bought @ 0.18, bought a little wish i bought more. Have a feeling the next article is going to be extremely positive

>>8704741
You are just pulling numbers out of your arse pal. The potential of JNT appears to have gone down, but then again jBonds have a larger possible userbase so it's not clear cut. Either way I doubt that this could have been a 1000/1500 dollar token, and I am all in on JNT.

>>8705093
Yes i am Tarek, how original is that? Fucking clown

>>8705061
>>8705072
>>8705126
jBonds gives you actual decentralization. this is what Dubai wants which is why the focus is on jBonds. jCash not being tied to JNT is temporary. read the conversation with Yazan right after the medium post in the telegram. the endgame is still everything tied to JNT. nothing has changed long term unless you just don't believe in the team or project, in which case you were never going to withstand the long term hold anyways.

if tapscott backs out, if big wallets start slowly selling off, if the SEED group dissolves the partnership, etc. that's when you sell. i personally think it could continue to dip so you could always sell now at a loss and buy back in for less if you're so inclined.

all this shit said, if the medium post and AMA are not explicitly clear in answering all of these basic questions i'm out. i'm not emotionally tied to anything but making money and there are much safer projects available at a discount right now. but this is the andromeda mission imo.

Bagholders getting desperate. If jCash can't survive a bear market, neither can jBonds how obvious is that?

>>8705196
You don't think that the admin posting the same shit that /biz/tards post about every single coin is unprofessional? He's literally going look at the wallets. Which can be manipulated by moving part of your stack to another wallet. And whales are accumalating. Which can also be manipulated by just not keeping the tokens on exchanges. He's shooting himself in the foot right now and acting like a retard.

>>8705232
I dont give a fuck what the admins are doing and i never been in Telegram before. I am just following the money and large wallets are increasing thier stacks and thats just a fact that you can easily verify if you keep your eye on Etherscan. This is a legit project in a space full of scams. I have a good feeling about this, just like i had a good feeling about VEN and i bought very early on when biz clowns were fudding it and it turned out to be one of the best decisions ive made in Crypto. Same with OMG, EOS and now JNT

>>8705106
20% would guarantee an increase to the mcap its literally impossible for the price to bleed in this scenario

>>8705126
>So what makes jBonds valuable?

They allow for on-chain/off-chain arbitrage without the cost of double tokenisation or KYC/AML compliance with the trade off of increased risk. Given that plenty of firms utilise leverage which is inherently more risky than normal exposure to markets, I don't think this risk necessarily rules out their use. The question rests more on how the team plan to address the DAO's shortcoming in a bear market, only being able to maintain liquidity upto a 95% contraction isn't good enough

>>8705232
the telegram admin is just some fag fanboy from the community he's not connected to the team or project. you niggers think they give a fuck about the telegram fags? top kek.

>>8705232
He doesn't work for them, he's just some bloke that's been interested in Jibrel for a few months and he seems professional enough so he helps manage their Telegram. Don't really see why you're so agitated by him saying this.

>>8705269
but this was in the ultra hyper bull market where every semi good project gained. This time it is totally different due to the missing fomo.

>>8705030
>>8705094

Ok, I'll tell you exactly what will happen with this "Medium article"
Firs of all it will probably be delayed
It will be the continuation of smoke and mirrors strategy (otherwise why would they need so much time to release it? they're coming up with more damage control strategy as we speak)

The'll say how they will always support and believe in muh jbonds as the SUPERIOR solution (here they will talk about some BS upsides (regulation, innovation, moon fazes etc) to take your attention away from the Onchain solvency questions)

Then they will preach again about the new tasks and branches of the projects which will give JNT tokens INCREDIBLE liquidity, UNGODLY value (through being able to vote for wallet interface and bamboozling you that someone will ever use their jNode that will never exist)

Here with fine print they will say that all the above (somehow, magically) will cause JNT tokens to be valuable and stable enough to not only decouple from btc/eth/entire market and world economy but also to be able to back their beloved jbonds.

And here is what's really gonna happen: of course no one will ever tokenize anything that will supposedly be backed by a volatile purely speculative shitcoin, they will just keep saying
>guys, be patient, as the jnode and jwallet income grows 0.000001% every year, one day it will make JNT valuable enough to back jbonds, they will keep lying and deceiving while NEVER openly admitting to people that JNT token was always a scam and nothing more..

Here is the funny thing: the telegram bagholders are so deluded and so stupid that they will catch this bait from the article as something positive, the price may actually go up by 10-30% on shitty kucoin, but a few days/weeks later they will give up again and start dumping their bags, JNT will never probably go to literally 0 but it will be one of those forgotten shitcoins somewhere out there being traded on obscure exchanges by 3 bots and 2 ultimate bagholders for 3-9c

>>8704624
Big wallets only kept accumulating. Only little fish sold. Learn to think for yourself

>>8705282
>>8705290
That's good. We need to summon Talal.

>>8705135
It was said in Telegram (by that other handsome fellow, not Talaal) that the majority of SEED money would be going into jBonds - we could surmise that means at least 50.1%, but who knows.

>>8704854
How are your DGD bags anon?

>>8705302
Like what are you? A Kek? Cant stand seeing Arabs doing well? Tell us what you're holdings are and ill find 500 issues with your coins

>>8705302
Look, the last news was not positive but you're taking this too far. You are literally assuming the very worst from them.

>>8705208
Off course the endgame is everything tied to JNT, otherwise there is no point in using the Jibrel Network at all, centralized tokenisation is absolutely retarded, banks are already doing it on private blockchains. If some people don't understand that then let them sell and regret it in a year or two.

>>8705327
I Don't even really understand JBonds. The way they explain them it makes it seem like they're backed by JAssets including JNT. So are they 90% backed by JNT? 10% backed by JNT? 1% backed by JNT? They need to explain this.

Well I feel pajeet'd a bit. Not 100% but at least 65% pajeet'd.

My trust has fallen so hard. I just can't take them seriously. Why is only Talal and Yazan giving us any updates. Where is the rest of the team? Why does it feel like a very small team compared to QASH approach (look professional) MatrixAI, iElec, Request team. I mean, it looks more like Devery project with 5 people or so working in the team.

Why does it give us the impression it feels subpar.

>>8705001
where are the insiders? why they no buy

>>8705406
Being this retarded. The whole point of tokenization is increased solvency since literally everyone on the whole world can buy it without limitations. This can only happen on public chains.

>>8705302
Truth be told

>>8704640
This has literally always been the caSe, the only difference is that the dao was going to get recycled jGas as JNT before

even telegram holders are tired and are selling.

I sold it too but look at this

''Cy, [02.04.18 11:35]
Sure is....no updates at all. Check got yourself, 1 update last month. Before then, Feb 12th. Not too promising... hoping we get something soon....slacking movement since the exchanges

Cy, [02.04.18 11:35]
https://github.com/jibrelnetwork/jwallet-web/commits/master''

I feel sad for the 450K JNT marine holder. He used to make threads everyday about it.

>>8705507
Maybe they are buying? Top 100 wallet % ownership has increased 1% in the past few days, and has been for weeks.

This makes me hopeful, but we will all have to wait until their medium post to see.

>>8705578

Top wallets % increased because they include exchange wallets with people playing hot potato on JNT

>>8705508
I know for a fact that they are doing it, I work at CACIB and every investment bank is buying private blockchains. I know it's retarded in the long term, full decentralization with a public chain will be the new paradigm and banks that fail to adjust will get fucked.

>>8705629
>I know for a fact that they are doing it, I work at CACIB and every investment bank is buying private blockchains. I know it's retarded in the long term, full decentralization with a public chain will be the new paradigm and banks that fail to adjust will get fucked.

Redpill us on JNT then.

>>8705302
you've ignored the SEED group though. they're locked in. you will make money on this coin unless the SEED group bails or the jibrel team totally transforms the value proposition. in either of these cases they're toast and everyone will dump.

look at the fucking landscape nig, this is still the best chance at making safe money right now in a bear market that could last all year. i fully agree
that it's lost the "buy 10K and hold til 2019 and you've made it guaranteed" veneer at this point.

>>8705655
>private blockchains
A private blockchain is just a ledger book / database, wtf they have that already.

>>8704624
>5% up
>Following the king, BTC
>Mooning

Jihadi coins sure are a great investment guys

>>8705702
That last line stings anon.
Went all in myself and got 10K. The potential has decreased but I'm still semi hopeful, unless something changes and it's completely dead.

>>8705702
>you've ignored the SEED group though. they're locked in

It will never happen, not in the way JNT holders are hoping for.
Will they ever tokenize something? Possible. Some sheik may one day decide it would be "cool and dope" to have his real money "floating inside the blockchain" for a few weeks. But tokenization that will directly impact JNT market cap (ON chain JNT-backed solvency)? never gonna happen. It will remain as a promise forever.

>>8705736
It's little more than that but the goal is just making some tasks more efficient, it isn't by any means a revolution. I'm phoneposting right now so I won't get into details but basically private banks do not see how a world without them is possible, but it is and it will happen sooner than you think.

>>8705769
It's still possible you can make it with 10k. Only need $15b market cap for that, so we'll need a bit of a push from Bull-san probably, but it's doable. Regardless, it's the most undervalued coin on the market. Binance alone would more or less guarantee a 3-5x.

>>8705828
remember "no big exchanges cause it would add volatility"

>>8705828

They applied for Binance and no words since then, so therefore they got rejected.

Also, they said that they dont want to go on big exchanges because "muh high volatility''.

>>8705865
In a few months Binance will be begging them to come on board

>>8705769
i'm all in too anon for 32K. it all depends on how they plan to reintegrate JNT to jCash and institutional money, and how many institutions are going to adopt jBonds. we REALLY need a fucking explanation for jBonds and why institutional money will use them. i don't give a fuck about normie money getting thru regulations, no normie will ever use this before it's obsolete unless they get major institutional money. if their plan is to start off with this jCash/jBond approach and then somehow slowly back jCash with JNT after several months, then we're right back where we were.

remember their entire pilot took place in a major bear market. none of this shit would happen in a bull market. if they figure out a way to keep the value of JNT from being tied to ETH/BTC then problem is solved. also this pivot is good news in a way. the entire thing still depended on adoption no matter what. this shows that there are legit institutional clients saying "we want this and this from you" rather than things going radio silent for months and then suddenly boom the project doesn't get adopted by anyone beyond a few bucks from SEED, everyone bails, coin tanks.

I srly don't understand why everyone still believes in the word of talal and yazan.

They have promised to launch jCash after token listing, then it was limited to several hand picked institutions. Now jCash wont even be backed b JNT anymore and jBond was created.

How many red flags you need?

And i am not even talking about the B exchanges...now they don't want big exchanges because of volume and volatility.

Not about the new website or the new roadmap

Not about the ton of delays etc etc

They must have an ace in the hole. People are legit still accumulating to cold wallets.

>>8705897
>remember their entire pilot took place in a major bear market. none of this shit would happen in a bull market. i

keep in mind that even a real ponzi like bitconect would work in a bull market.

>>8705914
Wait till people start FOMOing in soon. The faggots fudding this on here will be livid

>>8705865
>They applied for Binance and no words since then, so therefore they got rejected.
What retarded logic is that? They are under NDA if they applied, they can't say "yeah, we're getting listed next month", brainlet. There is not a single valid reason why would they get rejected.
>Also, they said that they dont want to go on big exchanges because "muh high volatility''.
I remember seeing something like that in the telegram group, but not quite. It makes no sense, because it's literally the opposite of that. Big exchange adds liquidity and decreases volatility.

>>8705960
i think they're mostly hodlers just fucking around, maybe a few paid shills.

I really thought they would revolutionize this industry. We don't even know what Talal is up to - and is not even bothered about the concerns of Telegram users.

Where is he and Yazan? Instead of focusing on jBonds+jCash issue, they go about 'heey guys muh jNodes, muh jWallets, muh jGas, muh jSearch''. The foundamentals are not even straights.

Where is the new roadmap promised + website?

Where is Binance? ''not needed because muh volatility''.

I sold my 4.3k jibronis at loss. I am so pissed. I legitelemy believed in that project.

If they delayed or pajeet their next medium post that will be the nail in the coffin.

>>8705998
>that id
>do WW2 anon
/ourcoin/ confirmed

>>8705968
>>They applied for Binance and no words since then, so therefore they got rejected.

Ah get out your brainlet. What NDAs you dumb dumb. That's HIS excuse. If you look at one of the admin, he literally said we PREFER low exchange because of ''muh high volatility''. How come you prefer that? It doesn't even make any sense and you know it.

They got rejected plain and simple and I was a bagholder jibroni brainlet. Try asking that question on Telegram and you will get the same answer.

>>8705995
I for one am legit worried about this tokens future now, for the very first time I feel nervous about it. Although the reaction of some is way over the top making it seem suspicious. Like the one fucker that has 20+ replies to everyone saying the JNT is now a gas coin and the medium post will be delayed every single post.

>>8705998
I find it curious to see you posting FUD in every single JNT thread. You can deny, but you're too obvious.
>>8706044
It's literally in the Binance terms you retarded troll. If you mention listing, the listing will be cancelled. Kys.

Come to think of it they have an office in New York now. Maybe I'll do some scouting for /biz/ when I'm bored.

>>8705998
The jNodes thing seemed to be well-reasoned and probably something that
a: they needed for jibrel to work as intended
b: was a client demand

Jnt as gas and shit like that : well, it was in the whitepaper since the start but I’m not too excited about it.

JClear, whatever the fuck that is: no idea, I hope its something that came up as a client request cuz I have 0 fucks to give about it

>>8706066

Yeah the muh fudding. I was a bagholder and a 100% jibroni lover until I realize all the lies or deception.

>>8706081
do it anon actually that would be a great idea.

>>8706081
Anyone know their NY address? I could've sworn I saw it before but now I can't find it. Does this office even exist?

>>8706081
that faggot hans from the telegram went by and visited them in NYC the other week.

>>8706124
4000 isn't even worth my time responding to your shit post.

Still holding around 270k and no way that i will ever get rid of that shit. Not even if i want to

>>8706124
Buy high, sell low.

>>8706147
he posted a pic of the office too, looked pretty legit desu

>>8706124
>4k
Unironically kys, telegram pajeet.

>>8705906
>>8706152
So are you trying to sell or not?

I WON'T SELL ! I WON'T SELL ! I WON'T SELL !

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>8706124
4k you poor bastard. Your 4k means nothing bud, glad you bought high and sold low....... Clowns like you will never ever make it

>>8706152

Those bag must be heavy. Aren't you the 450k marine who sold 1/3 of his stack? with your 401k retirement money?

kek

>>8706054
idk man, the fact that a major institutional client is requesting these additions is better news than not having any clients. a week ago we just had speculation and the blind hope that it would be adopted.

>>8706124
didn't even wait for the medium article. what the fuck is selling 4K at a loss going to do for your life anon? should have just forgotten about it for a few years.

>>8706207
It's true, at least we know they are in discussions with clients and listening to their feedback. It's a good sign for Jibrel, I just hope they don't fuck token holders over. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I have only 3.5K, I think I'll top it to 5K total and then forget about this.

>>8705998
also pissed. will hold my 30k jnt from ico until it hits 0. fucking shit could have been a real good token - for fcking once with a real value backing it.

thats why we cant have nice things boyz. fcking sand niggers...

>>8706279
40k here and your 30k will be worth millions in the future

>>8706191
If i could, i would have already.

>>8706202
Yes, i was. But i have never touched my 401k.

>>8706318
Good job bud. Give it at least til the next article, have a feeling will shoot up dramatically after

>>8705906
true... and all missed self-set deadlines top kek.

i mean jnt is not my biggest bag and im ok losing that 10eth i put into ico but man im just.. disappointed - was a nobrainer for me. believing in sandniggers.. never again.

>>8706329
lets just hope they dont delay their medium post lol

>>8706247
someone mentioned in the TG that there are institutions holding JNT right now. if that's the case and they get fucked over it will be a death sentence for the team, so doubt they're gonna do that. we just need more info. we have to keep in mind that this isn't your average shitcoin where the team has to suck neet investor peen to look good. they don't give a fuck about the tg or us at all nor should they, it's on another level.

>>8706363
Did they set a date for it?

>>8706318
rip JNT marine

>>8706398
this week but no official date

well obviously they will make their medium post look very VERY good after the debacle of the last one.

go for the jugular on the AMA with Yazan. I know I will.

>>8706419
Lets hope its as good as i think its going to be

lmao at the fucking idiots who sold at 20 cents instead of waiting a few months for the dao to be operational and a pretty much guaranteed 5x

>in before “team lies deception they wont tokenize”

Just fucking admit you bought high and sold low. You stupid fucks thought this was going to 1 trillion market cap and now you think its going to zero since they tweaked the token economics. Truly, I thought biz was a bit smarter than this but holy shit. You just sold a project with a 22.5 million mcap with a 250 million investment behind it, with that being just one of their partnerships.

This thing hasnt even started yet and you let that medium post and all the hivemind fud get to you.
Im glad all you shits who can only think about getting rich quick and cant think through a project outside of what biz is saying sold, god damn. Keep buying high and selling low idiots one day youll make it lol

>>8706399
He was cursed from the start by using that photo. Don't tempt fate

>>8706449
it could go either way. if they had legit good news it seems like it wouldn't come in the form of 2 separate medium posts, the first of which is bad news that creates insane levels of fud and leaves huge questions unanswered. i don't like that this 450K JNT marine just sold half his stack like that.

i'm holding my current position until the end and will probably increase my stack to 100K if the medium article is legit. but once i get paid most of my big money is going into safer projects at this point. mainly just ETH and probably some VEN/NEO/ICX. this was my long term moonshot gamble.

>>8706464
I'll make a big compilation of all the bottom-sellers and then post it every day until they like it.

>>8704741
>It went from a potentially 1000-5000 dollar token
You're a retard if you believed it could have gone this high even before the recent FUD.

>>8706548
Yes it did you faggot, will it would depend how much they'd tokenize and it couldve been much higher than 1000

>>8705655
Jibrel's goal is to become a decentralized bank and that can't happen without JNT acting as a proof of solvency on a public chain period. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn't understand how a banks (and therefore how a decentraliazed one on a blockchain) functions.

Now is that feasible? It's an entire other story. They'd need to make JNT decoupled of BTC and ETH and the rest of the ponzies, because that's what the crypto-market is right now, a huge ponzi collapsing that was created by the ERC20 boom and then the normie rush on Bitcoin. Investing in alts right now is the riskiest gamble you can take, most (and by most I mean 99%) will die.
Jibrel needs to take their token out of that toxic market if they want it to survive in the mid term, hence everything that is happening right now. They'd have to make JNT only tradable with fiat currencies (and with most of them) and other assets non-correlated with the crypto markets and give other exogenous souce of value for JNT (which were already planned with jGas). That'll will be very very complicated to do, and they are trying to do that right now.

Investing in JNT at the moment is very risky, and the perspectives didn't change after that medium post, if your behavior towardq your investment changed fter that post you did not understand this project at all, these issues were there sinc the beginning and anyone who knows a bit about finance would have seen them from a mile away.
It isn't guaranteed at all that all of this will be doable, but if central banks and regulators see in Jibrel the potential to become the first or one of the first decentralized banks they'll give them the ressources to make that happen. Anyone with half a brain knows that Bitcoin will never be used for its intended purpose and that crypto is in a big ass bubble right now, this is always the case with emerging technologies. If Jibrel succeeds they will be among the survivors of the bust, because they will create a new paradigm.

>>8706585
It already has a fiat pair on Palmex iirc, hopefully they can continue with that. Good post anon.

>>8706585
all of this is known by most of us who aren't either brainlets or purposely fudding up the thread. your reasoning is why i invested in JNT instead of just jumping into NEO or whatever.

the question is how do the actual changes they've just implemented affect institutional investors adopting the coin? will big money simply choose jCash over jBonds, thereby fucking over the JNT holders? we have it direct from yazan that the SEED group will be focusing on jBonds, which are backed by JNT. this seems like guaranteed gains imo. that coupled with the idea that Dubai is aiming to be a pioneer in governmental use of blockchain still makes me pretty bullish long term.

what are your thoughts on the actual pivot anon?

>>8706512
Definitely do it. By the end of 2018 it will be comedy gold people sold beloe ICO price in the middle of a huge bear market.

Even if you want to get out of the project why sell now? Lmao jesus

>>8706464
this. retarded to actually sell in a bear market before the seed puts money in.

This account started selling around the time they announced a medium post was coming.. Suspicious? Follow the 730k tx

https://etherscan.io/token/0xa5fd1a791c4dfcaacc963d4f73c6ae5824149ea7?a=0xb3a2553d48e327dc9c86e66446c065c6a7a074f8

>>8705702
Damn. You guys are all hoping that a rich dude will put 250 mil into this and you'll get some of it somehow. If that money goes in there will be mechanisms in place to make sure you never get any. Whales don't give away money for free.

>recovering

zoom out

jnt has been losing sats for months
if the seed announcement couldn't keep it from bleeding there's nothing to stop it from bleeding now

>>8706965
Actually it's not suspicious at all. He probably wanted it to pump so he could sell the news but ended up panic selling instead.

>>8707003
It's well below ICO, only literal brainlets would sell right now.

>>8707011
Why was there no movement for the Sheikh news pump then?

>>8706965
What a lying ass piece of shit. He sold 14 days ago, was that when the article came out? Like you're going to post a link to his/her wallet and straight up LIE? WTF is going on here.
He bought 28 days ago and sold 14 days ago. You can check it out yourself and anyone reading this can. s

>>8706771
Mid term JNT will not be used or barely because of its dependency on the crypto market, and will not moon in the short to mid term, but big money will absolutely want jBonds, that's where the innovation is and JNT is here to stay. This thing with jBonds and jCash will probably see other modifications, they are just ways of moving forwards without the crypto-market killing Jibrel.

>>8706771
You didn't ask me but I'll bite.

The changes are fine. Those who understand the project know the potential here know that the token economics of this project are the cherry on top of an otherwise game-changing project. And those token economics are still largely intact. If you follow what others have said on this thread - the goal is still to be completely decentralized, which necessitates JNT. Ultimately though, what is more significant is their endgame, which I don't know if people have properly assessed. If they pull that off - then yeah, you can be happy you got in at anything less than a dollar because you just invested in one of the first decentralized banks.

Furthermore, anyone invested in this project knows that it completely relies on adoption. If they didn't have the partnerships they did nobody would be talking about this. The fact they have a $250 million dollar investment from the private office of a prominent state functionary in the UAE is telling enough that there is significant interest in this project. Whether or not that $250 million is all tokenized isn't so relevant as the fact that the investment attests to significant interest and support of the project. If you sold below ICO because the medium article and you're mad that the entire $250 million isn't going to be tokenized then I don't know what to tell you...

Also, I would like to ask - what project here has better token economics than JNT? Even after these changes, I'd like to ask people here if they can name 1 project with better token economics. I would say Vechain, but even that is largely speculative. There is nothing out there as far as I know - barring tokens backed by gold, etc - that have the guaranteed gains that JNT has - even with the changes.

>>8707038
He might not have given up on it yet. People sell for lots of reasons. He might have found something he thought was better or maybe he needed money right then and there. It was also up back then in Ethereum. He might have thought that Ethereum was going to perform better. Or he was playing whale games and wanted to buy in cheaper. Or he just couldn't hold the bags any longer.

>>8706965
and that wallet still has over a million JNTs
This is a wierd wallet anyway, he moved out more JNTs that he moved in. This might be an exchange or something, Again more than a million JNTs is in that wallet right now

whatever im just looking for a good exit point now

>>8706145
Message Hans Muller on telegram, he met Talal there. The team is also open to meet people from the community.

>>8707432
Like everyone else.

>>8707108
What the fuck?

I literally said "when they announced a medium post was coming." Not when it was posted you dumbass pajeet; if these are the bagholders holding JNT that can't even read properly then JNT has no hope. Practically only being held by dumbasses

>>8706318

It makes me happy to see you break.

I really just want to buy 10k of this and forget about it and crypto and hope for the best. Tired of following this shit.

Hopefully jibrel tokenizes an asteroid and gets into space.

>>8707153
as long as the orderbooks look like they do now - most people are forced to bag hold until there will be somekind of god news and this thing launches to proxima centauri or it will go to 0 anyways. so duno maybe its a good thing the medium article was so shit and this thing makes us rich because we are not even able to sell kek

gl

>>8707545
Bargaining

>>8707108
Also its not an coming from an exchange storage wallet because if you look at the account it ends up at its a personal account deposit address that feeds into Bibox dumbshit learn to read the blockchain.

>>8707575
fuck off

>>8707575
i dont care about the amount ive invested at ico in jnt but thx for posting ;-)

>>8707601
maybe anger tben

>>8707744
maybe kill yourself

>>8707758
definitely anger

>>8707800
definitely kill yourself you autist

>>8706965
So they're enough of an insider to realise the medium post will be shit but they still need to wait for it to be announced before they sell? Makes sense

??? I thought it's dead? Why are they getting to present this to hundreds of central bank officials?

>>8708476
80% black. probably central banks of africa who have no money and hope hat crypto will solve all their problem

>>8708476
it's not dead

the primary concern is that jnt will just be a gas token

we know that talal and yazan said it won't but they've said a lot of things

>>8708476
Niggers and arabs? Definitely the central banks of MENA and Africa region

>>8708476
Its going to be amazing once i dump my bags on people FOMOing in when its already too late

>>8706464
>muh dao
>muh jbonds

Hey retard, this team has trouble putting out a fucking mediujm post. You honestly think there's ever gonna be a DAO or there was ever a plan to have one?

This whole project was a vague ponzi from the get go. It's starting to unravel and you're sitting here thinking they're gonna deliver. The first thread has been pulled out now the whole thing is starting to unravel.

We're fucked. I'm not gonnna sell at a loss but I really suspect the next medium post will push us much closer to zero, if it even comes.

Teasing instead of explaining it. Classic bait and switch.

>>8708904
You're going to have nightmares once the new article is released you faggot. Stay poor bitch

>>8708904
He isn't able to explain it because you need another medium post to explain the use case of jBonds. But don't worry, after some delays and broken promises we will get jHedge. It is better than jCash and jBond together.

>>8708904
how many times do we have to wait for a fucking medium article? are they writing an novel or shit

>>8708980
it is hard to come up with bullshit explantation how it works. Give him some more time.

I hope to god this thing absolutely explodes so that
A. I make it
B. Every bottom seller gets BTFO
This latest news hasn't been great but the backlash has been unbelievable. Not sure why anyone would sell at these prices, even if they fuck up even more selling in the middle of this market is fucking stupid. (Unless you intend to buy back in, then fair enough).

>>8709035
I suspect alot of people were all in.I myself had a large stack and sold a large amount of it, still kept a large amount.Its gone from being far and away the best shot in crypto, to just the best shot in crypto to moon hard.Either way Im not comfortable being mostly all in, and have put the money I took out in to more stable options as a backup.

>>8704624
im going to laugh so hard watching you all lose money as this shitcoin plummets into the ground. this shit will be 5 cents in a week lmao

It's all good boys, Jibrel just wants Link's status on biz.
$1000 EOY on track

>>8708534
This is a coin aimed at the MENA market you brainlet

>>8709508
i unironically think JNT can reach at least $1