/biz/ - Business & Finance

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>>8590951
Actually, i was first ;-)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I trust my brain over all other things on earth. We are in a bull market. Trump is the greatest president of all time. Short term volatility is fine but everyone needs to realize

The two markets worth investing in right now:
Large-scale plots of land in remote areas at cheapest price.
Stock Market in tech-related areas

That's it. Stock market will continue to do great. Europe is shit, no tech sector. China and USA are the two big markets to put money into and China lul

This is a Buy nvidia/AMD moment. AMD is a juicy 10/10 right now walking home alone and drunk.

DO WE BELIEVE THE COMPUTERS OR THE HUMANS?

HELP

i bought the dip

>>8590918
i am just a dumb shit poor millienials waiting for zuck and bezos be fucked.

>>8590970

>>8590969
based intuition bro

>>8590969
t. Brainlet

>>8590802
i gotta wait and see how this is all unfolding. but GOOG, FB, AMZN etc all use the same method to harvest data. cambridge analytica is the one who came up with it (or some spook in the IC more likely). cyber phrenology was what it was nicknamed as by an anon called cultstate. he managed to find a way to expose that what they are doing actually violates the civil rights of everyone online (atleast in the US). so he has them cornered. i honestly thought it was just a conspiracy till eric schmidt stepped down. then FB got targeted last week, and CA got a sting on em. whoever the fuck this guy is, he was not full of shit.

this is why ive been saying do not touch FB. at this point, if things continue the way they are going, then this will also extend to google. but the best part of this happening to google is if it DOES happen, and were sitting atop a mountain of cheap OTM puts....

i think you see where im going with this. this is a bigger trade than anyone has ever had the chance to do.

were actually gonna fucking make it holy shit

>>8590824
surprised they didnt tank months ago desu, as the major shareholder al-waleed is currently getting tortured by blackwater in some saudi prison.

IS TOMORROW THE DAY OF THE ROPE???

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>>8590969
when investing in a company, you have to evaluate and trust the management. It is the same for a country. I do believe the USA is on the right path.

What we are experiencing is a gift from Emperor Trump, deflating the Obongo bubble for us to buy. Expect volatility.

As for tech, I think this is already a boomer mature sector. Big players will cuck the smaller ones before cucking among themselves.

The next growth will come by leveraging the actual humans, not the data surrounding them.

Go long AI, robotics, automation and genetic engineering sectors.

Fucking help me biz. My portfolio is too small for me to be dropping this hard

>>8591022
I'm putting all my money in far OTM google puts tomorrow. If they crash a good 25% within 6 months, it's like you can grab 25000% gains.

>>8590969
>Trump is the greatest president of all time

>>8591053
Nah
Buy a little bit of the dip tomorrow
Then maybe thursday too

But only good deep value stocks like BGFV

>>8591074
Got any picks in the sector besides Illumina? It will be a few years imo before AMD gets cucked so I think it's fine long for 1-1.5 years

>>8590972

me too

Has anyone here done any analysis on whether bloomberg posts/news predict price movements?

Would be fairly tough, but not that difficult to use machine learning to analyse sentiment of bloomberg articles and act accordingly.

>>8591053
no anon. this is the beginning of a new era. we might actually see these fucking tech giants fall. i cannot overstate how fucking excited i am

>>8591080
well you do you, but im unsure of the timeline this is all gonna happen on, so im going to wait till i see a sign. but im expecting all of these tech giants to fall at some point.

just dont get mad at me if ya get wrecked by going to early. remember theta. im honestly looking into getting some multi year contracts (LEAPS) and having this be the last trade i ever have to make.

>>8590969
> We are in a bull market. Trump is the greatest president of all time.

>>8591106
news is a lagging indicator.
Stock market is down big today! Sell!
Stock market is recovering! Buy!
100% worthless

>>8590969
>t. AMD is a juicy 10/10 right now

>>8591117
My intuitions on the market have never been wrong. I'm super long AMD, super heavy weighted into AMD.

>>8591106
the problem i have with all "analysis" that isnt done by myself, is that its very likely that you are being manipulated into buying things that the big guys are trying to get rid of. its just too easy to be manipulated. and i only trust what i can see happening in front of me

>>8591151
>I'm super long AMD, super heavy weighted into AMD.
>>8591096
>It will be a few years imo before AMD gets cucked so I think it's fine long for 1-1.5 years


Please tell me you guys are just trolling

>>8591096
As for AI, automation and robotics, BOTZ is pretty cool with a nice exposure to Japan (~40% of the holding). But you can look into the content of the ETF holding.
Biotech sector :
SGMO, QURE, BMRN, ONCE for the CAR-T hemophilia play
GILD for the CART-T oncology sector

Genetic engineering in the specialty chemicals industry : AMRS
XON is an interesting play.

For all these stocks, DO YOUR OWN DILIGENCE

>>8591117
He's right you know

>>8591174
I would never pick from that many stocks. sadly. My advantage comes from intense study of a very small search area.

>>8591117
A man who rustles the jimmies of so many people must be doing something great and right

We've had historically overbought P/Es on indexes, all we needed was a catalyst for a correction.
We've found the catalyst in a facebook story "Surprise! facebook sells your data"
Except this time people seem to care.

now my only question is if low P/E will recover faster or if everyone is fucked. BGFV being up today could be a good sign. Kneepads are going to sell like hotcakes in the coming months

Best of luck to anyone holding MYOS for earnings, I’m hoping it will help get me out of the hole I am in.

Stocks are extremely undervalued right now.
Buy as much as possible.
It'll never be below this amount ever.

>>8591171
>AMD is over because of cryptocoins
>AMD is over because Nvidia paused testing of cars
>AMD is over because CHINA competition

yeah those things are scary

>>8591193
As for CAR-T, GILD is a pretty safe play : currently, it has a shrinking revenue due to its drugs actually curing its patients. So GILD's very profitable metrics are being heavily discounted. In my opinion, the current price only takes into account its current cash flows and dividends. The gene therapy is almost free (but it won't be kicking in fully until 2020)

> Could've had another 8 years of comfy biopharma plays under Clinton
> Have to deal with insane volatility in every sector brought on by spastic loud mouthed cheeto instead
Trump cucks >>>/out/

>>8591263
2020 is too long away, Im predicting singularity by end of 2019

>see FNGU start to recover in after hours to $48.68
>dumps to $47 a few minutes
h-hahahaha i love the false hope pranks

h-hahahahahaha......AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>8591243
>We've found the catalyst in a facebook story "Surprise! facebook sells your data"
Except this time people seem to care
is it just me or does this whole outrage seem manufactured. im struggling to accept that all these fucking droolers whove been knowingly giving all their personal info to FB are suddenly actually upset about it. even more confused by the fact that people are even aware of CA outside of the conspirosphere, let alone being upset with them.

its fucking weird is all

>>8591077
Quick! Hit the "Start Over" button!

things better start looking up after this lunchbreak

>>8591317
>lunchbreak
>tfw lunchbro didn't post his meal today

>>8591077
>-$0.73

>>8591293
FACEBOOK WAS HELPING LITERALLY HITLER WITH THE RUSSIANS.

>>8590969
>We are in a bull market

You can go to fbook.com/ads/preferences scroll to "my information", then click "my categories" to see what facebook thinks your political affiliation is.

>very liberal
based

Can /smg/ after hours be a thing now?

>>8591401
only the days /smg/ get FEDed

>>8591293
Manufactured as fuck, people didn't even care when the NSA was literally watching them touch their dicks at night with baked in access on everything but now some company participating in what Facebook ADMITTEDLY did for years is the end of the fucking world.

is robinhood crypto useful?
I just got invited

So uhh when is VTGN going to finish trials?

>>8591384
obviously replace fbook with facebook. some other interesting tidbits in there as well

>multicultural affinity: african american
based

>>8591426
No

>>8591426
EVERY FUCKING DAY SAME SHIT. YOU HAVE A WHOLE BOARD YOU FUCKING CRYPTOFAGGOT!!!!!

>>8591426
this

Has anyone used it

The Robinhood Web application is absolute GARBAGE so I feel like the crypto app will be just as useless

>>8591432
with in the next year.

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/FB/x9k3trkH-FAANNG-Trendline/

Worth keeping an eye on this. The guy who made it forgot to normalize it but the fact still stands, if that trend breaks then the market goes with it.

I CANT FUCKING TAKE IT ANYMORE IS IT A BEAR MARKET AGAIN???

>tfw should have bought Dominoes Pizza

>>8591481
nah just FB doing its thing
just buy the dip tomorrow and thursday

>>8591401
So like everyday?

>>8591384
Commie

>>8591077
Damn bro, hope you recover tough day

>>8591408
There's a huge difference between letting the NSA know and letting private businesses know.

>>8591106
Financial news is 100% entertainment completely worthless

>>8591254
PE 25+, debt up to eye balls, share buy backs stopped, interest rate threat, china trade war response. This crash will be gloriois.

>>8591384
nothing on politics for me.
i guess not posting ever does that

>>8591532
>he lets facebook know his power level

>>8590969
>Trump is the greatest president of all time

What happened on US markets today?
Euro markets went great and US markets opened great but when I checked after dinner is was all in red.
All? No, the one thing I shorted (GE) was up 5%.
What a day...

>>8591585
says i'm liberal

>>8591590
Trump won and theres nothing you can do about it :v)

So anyways, anyone buying Spotify on April 3rd?
After the dropbox blowup I am looking forward to another popular webservice going public.

>>8591643
compare Spotify to Pandora. Spotify is extremely overvalued.

>>8591408
its just because politics. they are politicizing it. and for whatever reason, all of a sudden, normies are violently interested in politics (they arent, as their grasp on political shit is close to nil, but they were told to care by their tvs and phones, so now they do). but whatever. it plays in perfectly with what im doing right now, and since i dont give a fuck about politics either way, as long as my FB puts get ITM, then i care even less what happens. i want more money.

AAAAAHHHHH fucking MU piece of shit I should have bought GE like Buffet said!

>>8590969
I'm thinking about property but I don't want to get JUSTed the way my mom did buying a house literally right before the recession. She still owns it thankfully but only recently stopped being upside down.

Is now a good or bad time to invest in property?

General question for the thread.

>>8591433
This just gave me the best content i've had in 5yrs on facebook hahahahahahahaha

>>8590969
unironically

Looks like the Nasdaq leading this whole thing down now.

>>8591473
exactly. a bull market literally cant happen if the industry leaders go down. for fucks sake think how many billions of dollars are hedged in that shit right now. and they still havent even begun to move. there is a long way to fall on all of this shit

>>8591666
Its just all about user numbers, thats why facebook is so valuable and could buy Whatsapp for 17 billion. Its not the product, its the underlying network effects
Look how awful apples music streaming service is doing. Maybe spotofy is a next buy candidate for fb, Apple or another company that has billions laying around

But who am I to argue with Satans trips, btw checked!

why are people panicking about bear market when shorts exist? you should be happy stuff has so far to go DOWN, get a leveraged account and short everything into oblivion. i dont give a fuck what happens to these companies, i just want to know which way it goes and profit off it

>>8591775
its FAANG

like i said the other day FNGD is 3x short the FAANG stocks. this will come in handy

>>8591758
I think real estate to be a bother and more risky than one would think.

But there is one main advantage to it and that is leverage. You can literally buy real estate with almost no money down as long as the rents cover the loan payments.

If your city is growing and/or has an economic upside coming, it may be a good idea.

>>8591820

>>8591796
pandora has more listener hours than spotify in north america. regardless I wouldnt put money on any music service, they're gonna bleed money until the end of time

>>8591813
because i don't know how to time it.

Do I short today? or wait for it t go up tomorrow? What if it goes up 3 days in a row?

>>8591758
There is a bit more downside, but a lot of upside on the horizon.

t. Real Estate Trust investor

>>8591813
bear markets suck if you already have all your shit hedged in long. especially if you have a lot of it and dont want to get taxed to hell and back when you cash out. i agree that its way easier to look for companies that are running like shit and just take up a short position, or load em up with puts, than it is to do the inverse, but you can definitely still get burned on shorts. you stay too long and you get the horns. and it fucking HURTS when you get squeezed

>>8591865
well im not gonna do it right now. im gonna do it after a rally

>>8591900
i was trying to get the /smg/ hedge to look at some REITs but everyone still thought we were in a bull market

>>8591524
>just buy the dip

Every day is now a dip.

>>8591929
REITs are a long term play. /smg/ fund is like weekly, can't argue with that really

>>8591952
You buy the dip and you sell the rally
Rinse and repeat until America is strong again and cleansed from its nigger president bubble shit

>>8591962
yeah but were gonna need something long term with good divs to hedge against this shit. i think we should do a 60/40 portfolio of 60% memes and 40% hard assets with divs for longterm holds

>>8592005
I don't run it haha. My "hedgefund" is doing just fine with it though :-)

>>8592005
How about oil trusts?

>>8591889
how is this different than a bull market? shit lasts for months to years dude lol

>>8591962
I try to be a Barren Buffet fag and do fundamental analysis (reading the 10-Ks, DCF models and shit)

But I don't know how you do it for financials like the banks or the REITs.

What do you look at in a REIT ? Also, I used to be a retail business owner in a shopping mall, so I kinda know how leases work. Is this kind of knowledge useful ?

>>8591929
>/smg/ hedge
Does /smg/ actually have its own hedgefund or is this a meme? Don't usually look into these threads but getting close to getting out of crypto and looking at other things. Cashed out 1/3 of my crypto portfolio the other day and have another 1/3 shorting bitcoin.

Started trading options of AMD. I'm in the money boys.

>>8592056
https://autismincorporated.org

>>8592026
My entire portfolio is made up of REITs and midstream pipelines haha. My dividends pay my bills. Draw your own conclusions from that.

>>8592046
Payout ratio is key to me. Is the dividend sustainable. If you have a 10% yield, do you think it can sustain for 10yrs to recoup your original investment?

>>8592056
Yes. AutismIncorporated.org

Guys have you heard about Tesla?

>>8592024
kek yeah you must be stoked about all this. ive been browsing looking for good REITs since the weekend. care to shill me anything worthwhile?

>>8592026
oil is definitely going up from here so this is probably a good idea. any hard asset really. but since the US is about to become one of the leading producers of oil, i would imagine this will cause oil to rise dramatically

>>8592105
It's going redder.

>>8592034
what if it only lasts a month or 2?
i can hold long knowing the sm has a long term bull bias.

If i short an index right now, maybe I'll cash in on a 1000 point drop. Or maybe it will bounce back up 500 points, then drop 1000, and keep repeating...

>tfw opening an account with Raymond James soon
Oh boy I can’t wait to get jewed like a big boy

>>8591900
Id love to invest in some US REITs but EUR/USD fucks up the dividends right now so I'm stuck with some local REITS

>>8592188
Think in longer term you euronigger fag
Euro will be toast
Diversify your currencies

>>8592154
good rule of thumb is to keep your shorts short, and your longs long. i would not recommend going short just yet, as we just crashed. tomorrow could very well be green as fuck again. wait until the bell and judge for yourself. i ALWAYS fuck myself up if i take positions before the bell.

>>8592123
I gave you my entire portfolio yesterday :-)

>>8592080
How do I throw money at this

>>8592262
was it the pie chart with 15 positions ?

>>8592286
Talk to ((comfy))

>>8592303
That was it. I'll probably do a full q1 update friday

>>8592262
oh shit didnt know it was you div-senpai. theres some good shit in there too. just gonna wait until things settle down (and im hopefully rich from OTM puts on tech giants) and then go majorly long for div growth. you definitely have the right idea longterm. no way i can continue timing shit as well as i have been. i would much rather relax on a fat stack and not care about the direction of shit. but first, i need to get that fat stack

>>8592250
in this vein, do you almost always trade on at least the daily chart, or weekly or even longer?

>>8592286
comfy already pulled a pharmabro once and emptied the fund. (he later replaced the money) now he's addicted to options. its a matter of time before the fund goes to zero.

>>8592380
Thats how i did it. Options for a year to get a nice stack, dividends to pay my bills. Its working so far

>>8592101
Redpill me on the MLPs.

I want to invest in VR. Suggestions?

>>8592425
I remember long time ago some fag using AMLP as a money printer to buy more expensive stuff

I have been following AMLP. The SP just keeps tanking and the dividends keep shrinking :(

>>8591573
if you drop the financial qualifier that number is pretty much just as applicable. muh DRUMPFs and all that.

>Nikkei

>>8592427
FB owns Oculus btw

>>8592407
>pharmabro
He made me money so I'm not complaining

>>8592503
>pharmabro
Are you bagholding REGN too ?

>>8592425
A lot of the industry has unsustainable dividends, but it sure is nice getting those checks all the time. Financial research is key. You have to watch the earnings call slideshows and shit. Also, its only really profitable with a large stack to invest with. I have 80k in it, 11.5% yield overall, it pays my bills.

>>8592472
>Nikkei Rape Incoming Edition

title checks out

>>8592525
No, I got completely out of the stock market last March and went all in on crypto.

>>8592286
>>8592080
AYO

HOL UP

theres people with actual money in the /smg/ hedge? i thought it was just a meme?

>>8592406
when im looking for reversals for my entry points on positions, yeah. ill definitely use daily and weekly candles for that to spot when momentum is turning. but i think the longest short ive ever done was 3 days in a row on semiconductors last week. ill hold my long positions for a while generally, but havent since february because ive been convinced it was going to get bearish. took longer than i expected.

but once im IN a position that i plan on holding for a while, i generally just watch the daily and the 5min, and sometimes 15min if i need to zoom out a little. i think i answered your question, right?

Hello /biz/. New here and interested in stocks but I'm pretty fresh on all the vocabulary.

Bought some NTDOY stock, only based on what the company had been doing with the Switch and what I see it will do with E3. (Really wish I would have bought some when they were down to $12 after their huge crash).

I'm asking for tips or what helped you guys out besides trial and error, seeing how the majority of their board has become /crypto/ and there's no way I'm touching that.

Basically if the company does good I am to receive a small monetary sum for very share I own? Or is it for every full stock/share as I believe it is 8 NTDOY as 1 stock.

>>8592472
delete this

>>8591862
Atlanta. In the center of the city. Amazon is potentially coming and even without them the city has been growing like crazy because land is cheap and taxes are low.

>popped a bunch of xannax
>went to nursery to pick up plants to plant (jalapenos, zuchini, bell peppers)
>stopped at liquer store to grab some stella
>got home chugged a beer right when i walked in and cracked opened another
>smoked a fat bowl
>getting my groove on about to get some fresh air gardening
>tenant at one of my rental properties calls me 2 cities over says they're locked out of house

atleast i had a good day with my AMD puts

>>8592472

>>8592576
why do you watch the 5min if you are holding for weeks to months? doest that just create emotional biases you want to avoid?

>>8592650
> Against drinking

Come on big5guy, i was one of the people who gave you credit month's ago. Have a dam drink

>>8592665
>>8592650

I didn't read the whole thing lol. Shouts out. You /drinkboys/ now!

Someone talk me out of buying a short term put on SPY. I know it will be above $258 on the 29th but its so tempting.

>>8592616
investopedia
>>8592677
where is the booze ETF? i think it should spike given how many people are bleeding

>>8592639
Get info on the average level of rents in the area and see if it covers the loan
Usually, you have to buy for cheap a rundown to shit building, refurbish it and rent it.
But it is all so tiresome because you have to go out and do shit.

>>8591758
if it's just for personal use instead of renting don't even think of it as an investment, because it's not a good one typically. bing "why your house is a terrible investment" - a JL Collins post should be the top result.

as for timing, it depends on location and prices. in expensive parts of CA I'd expect drops due to people fleeing the shitstate after tax reform, but that might not apply to your local area.

>>8592616
By owning a stock, you own a very tiny piece of the company. You’re entitled to receive a share of the profits, if any, and can also vote.
You make money either holding the stock and getting paid dividends, or selling the stock to someone else for more money than you paid for it.

>>8592616
Check em

>>8592699
booze companies are a decent bet during bear markets overall btw, nobody is goign to drink less when everything is tanking lol

wish there was a strip club ETF, same concept

>>8592650
At least you had some human interaction.
I just spend all day looking at funny moving lines on my screen while barely making enough money to pay rent and eat

>>8592616
i dont wanna sound like a dick, but this market
and the way its been acting recently is NOT for beginners. i would honestly suggest papertrading for a little through this tumultuous. we just drove off of a fucking cliff, and things look insanely bearish. keep your positions small and quick until things calm down.

also, E3 is a LONG ways away. if youre super bullish on them, give them a couple days to settle down and check again on monday. all of tech is sinking like crazy right now alongside FB, so you might get a better price for them later down the road

>>8592726
>t. beginner

>>8592658
no sorry i watch that shit for shorts. im sorry that was a shitty rambling response im in the middle of doing shit right now

>>8592699
tfw priced in :-(

>>8592726
Nah bro
He has to do just like me at the time : fall for the shitty memes shilled here (PIP and AMRS at the time) and gamble on triple leveraged ETF on binary events (it was JDST just before a Yellen speech)

An now, I am riding on Warren Bufett's shoulders

Good times

>>8592658
I watch 1min for the excitement and I'm literally the longest-term investor on /smg/

>>8592154
>sm has a long term bull bias.
I wonder if that will survive a generation of snowflake SJW bullshit and the decline of white America. not even joking. they always warn that past returns arw not indicative of future returns, and the last century was pretty exceptional for the US as a whole. might be overdue for reversion to the mean, with someone like China driving markets more.

>>8592771
Why ride buffet's shoulders when you can apply his philosophy to the modern era?

>>8592743
you caught me. but im coming up. been making some spot on calls these past few weeks and am up to 12k from 9k two weeks ago. just trying to keep that other anon from nuking himself. it seemed he didnt know what he was getting into, what with all of tech being super bearish right now, and him placing investments now, to speculate on E3 which is in the summer.

>>8592793
people will always desperately buy shit, even if it looks terrible, so as long as money, and the markets exist, the market will have a bullish bias over the long term

>>8592793
The demographic analysis got me having a very bearish thesis on France

>>8592816
riding his shoulders is fun brah

>>8592837
"Fun" is subjective. Money is objective.

>>8592777
no, I am the longest term investor on /smg/.

>>8592848
And what is your term broski?

Dow futures -60 btw

>>8592844
in all seriousness, I want to believe that I pick my stocks seriously
I read 10-K, do DCF models in Excel, try to read news and facts about the relevant sector etc

>>8592665
i never said i was against drinking...?

>>8592858
multi-generational view

>>8592793
54% of births are still white, so we've still got another 30 years of domination imo.
if it drops to 20%-40% though we will see some shit
whether usa becomes a brazil or some sort of balkanization i don't know.

>>8592726
I'm looking to cash out a portion when Pokemon Switch has been in stores for a month which might be 2018-2019. Currently the shares rise or drop $1-2.

Expecting Nintendo to show Smash Bros and new controllers and third party games as big sellers.

I'm expecting Nintendo to sell out on LABO in april.

I'm also curious as to how much income will the company receive when their subscription service arrives in September 2018.

The harware has been doing well and in turn I've heard Nvidia has been doing well because they provide the GPU.

>>8592702
>Get info on the average level of rents in the area and see if it covers the loan
i've been a rental property owner for 7 years, i have 3 properties and ima tell you this secret. Don't start off in the rental game getting a loan... like at all..do all cash for first few properties then pick on and leverage it.

>>8592894
thats all well and good, but seriously, go look at the tech sector right now. its on fire. keep an eye on the stocks you like for now, but with todays close im assuming that shit will slide all week (and im also bearish overall for the longterm). NVDA got fucking HAMMERED today, as did the rest of em. i just think you should wait for a better price, and i think you will get it if youre patient.

but do your own shit. if you think that they will crush it down the road, accumulate them on the way down, and then when it pops, youll be stoked. just be prepared for a long painful drawdown on your position.

>>8592891
Too big to hold together if local and state government goes to shit. More borders are good for business in any case. Imagine if you had five governments to buy and sell resources and export local culture instead of one.

>>8592880
Fair enough, i can't argue with that.

>>8592884
You mentioned it last week, you said you were quitting drinking. Same shit right?

>>8592886
Top 3 holdings?

I'm 4% in the red boys, what should be my first move be tomorrow? Should I set everything to market sells to liquidate everything I have?

>>8592927
I see where you want to go because of the risk the tenant fails to pay his rents.
Since I don't like real estate that much and that the only redeeming quality I find is the extreme leverage, I think there is 2 ways to be safer :
- a higher rent/loan repayment coverage
- put down some money instead of borrowing all the money

I am an europoor, I have seen some... exotic opportunities yielding 15% per year which more than covers any unforseen events.

>exterior looked like a regular mansion
>but inside the landlord redesigned entirely the rooms so that it has TWELVE functional flats inside
>the tenants were mostly immigrants from Africa or Eastern Europe who most likely didn't have many choices to rent a place
>landloard was from Romania and at the end of the visit he told me about his visceral hatred of the mudslimes and his idea of crowdfunding a project of modern day concentration camps with camera and shit

>>8593034
us market index, ex-us market index, bond index ;)

>>8593089
Only indexes? Where's your risk at?

>>8593089
are you jack bogle

>>8593089
so you just buy more SPY and do nothing else, sounds pretty cringy boring man

do you have a trading portfolio for memes and losing money on getting chopped up from? thats what we do here

>>8591643
I will probably buy. Been using Spotify since it came out and I strongly believe in that company.

>>8593138
of course! but anon asked for my 3 biggest holdings

>>8593089
Now where have I heard this before?

>>8593241
im just memeing its probably the best bet compared to what we all do here. were you buying a bunch in 07 08 09? your cost average must be like well under 150 lol nice work

WHY ARE ARGIE FUTURES SO NEGATIVE???

Literally at 17% annualized growth right now, thats less than the expected inflation.

Maybe it has to do with the witching tomorrow but if these cucks truly believe Argentina is not getting in Emerging markets in June I will be laughing with all the money im going to get.

>>8593310
Wait, what's happening in Argentina?

>>8593287
not enough, I was too young. recessions are also when you're the most cash strapped.

its a bear market. Sorry but Trump threw all long term planning and analytics into the shitter. The worst thing for markets ever is uncertainty and all we have now is uncertainty

Who else got destroyed by Trump?

Only keeping my head above water thanks to the jews.

Also fell for the Pepsico meme, the stock only goes up with they announce buying more Tesla trucks.

>>8593756
based intel

>>8593756

Hilldog would have made that portfolio soar

>>8593756
Umm do you average up?

>>8593829
she would have started a world war cuz she's mad putin wont allow monsantos and rothchild banks in... lol at idiots supporting killery and her end the world ways. stay a useless idiot

>>8593879
no she would not have. Hilldog is a proffesional lifetime career politician who is extremely corrupt she would have been best friends with Putin they are birds of a feather thays why she sold him all the uranium. She had a private posotion and a public position for the pleb scum to get elected she hates fags and niggers but publicly supports them to get elected because thats what plebs like.Trump on the other hand is a dangerous unpredictable brainlet shitposter

>>8593653
>>8593756
yeah, im sure the greater market and all the smart money is over-reacting to every trump tweet like the rest of the fucking morons (and yourself). take some fucking responsibility for your positions. and look to the FED (and primarily what the previous FED chair did (or did not, amirite?) while in office) for the answers of why you are getting royally fucked buying shit that has P/Es of 20 and 30+

you fucking faggot

>>8593829
kek
yeah she wouldve made lockheed and martin the best stock on the whole market. but no guns for you goys.

>>8593879
anon, we are still likely headed for global conflict. a different one, perhaps, but conflict nonetheless. dont place too much importance on politicians. also
>mad putin wont allow monsantos and rothchild banks in
if you think that russia doesnt have a central bank you are fucking dreaming, or retarded

Nikkei broskis report in!

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

>>8593939
>lockheed and martin
fuckin g MORON

>>8593938
BHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH *breathes*
BHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA


oh wow the lies you spew out of your cunthole.

killery is not a professional she is not a good person she is not anything positive.
hold on thinking about the mass stupid going on in your brain...
BHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHH


>>8593939
lol another brainlet not researching. Stick to your autism and studying charts sport

>>8593979
>fuckin g
theres no space in fucking
.
.
faggot

>>8593653
So, let me get this straight

>The drumpf made promises during his campaign to do a tax reform and impose tariffs
>The market is all bullish, like, fuck yeah greatest thing ever, that tax reform is DOPE
>shit is priced for a whole fucking year of bull run
>in the meantime, the market can see the guy is keeping is campaign promises, so that tax reform that was priced in was actually the right move by the market
>somehow, the market forgot about his tariffs promise
>the guy keeps his promises
>shit happens

So, why is it said markets are "efficient"? Cause that sure isn't what I'd call efficiency. It's just retardation.

>>8593544
The big thing right now is wether Arg is going to be incluided in Goldman Sachs list of Emergent Markets. It was expected to happen last year but they were snubbed. Its supposed to happen this year, but apparently some Bloomberg analysts or whatever say it might not be happening this year again (Emergent market review happens in march).

Also Easter holidays are starting thursday ending after monday, so March futures expire tomorrow, so bigger volatity I guess.

>>8593879
litterall russian propaganda. fuck off and be a commie somewhere else.

>>8593990
at least im profitable you stupid fucking faggot

and at the very least im not whining trying to make excuses for why my stocks r no gud. cry more faggot

>>8594006
everyone forgot about the FED because they didnt do anything for almost ten years. thats literally it

>>8594006
yeah trade war isnt priced in because you dont know what the fuck could happen. Drumpf puts tarrifs China puts tarrifs Drumpf puts more tarrifs and on it goes China could just dump all its treasuries or someshit then what

>>8592639
>be in atl
>hate fucking Yankees shitting up the state
>just a few years until it turns blue and I fuck off to South Dakota
Please jew all those fuckers for every penny

>>8593756
>fell for the pepsico meme

yeah youll be eating your words when you eat mad gains you nigger

Like China could just ban Google and Facebook from China. All the apple chink ractories are propwrty of China they just rent it to them. They can just ban iphones like US banned HUAWEI in the US So China could crush the tech sector if it wants

>>8593653
They could have listened, they didn't have to choose the chaos candidate.

>>8594048
Then it shouldn't have been bullish for a whole fucking year, because he said he'd put tariffs on China, and he actually shat on China since the beginning. So, from fucking day 1 we knew there would be uncertainty and we couldn't know what the fuck could happen.

>>8594109
yeah but nobody thought he would fucking do it like nobody thinks he will make Mexico pay for a wall evwryone thought thats just pleb bait

>>8594048
personally i think neither side wants any of that shit. trump seems to be trying to corner the chinese into either playing ball and re-negotiating trade, or force them to have to go full trade war, dump the US treasuries, crash our dollar, and strengthen theirs.

the problem (for the chinese) is that if their yuan is revalued, and ours is weakened, we will be able to massively outperform them and well be able to undercut them in manufacturing, as they have done to us.

imo this is all a balk, and an attempt to corner china into a deal where no matter what happens, they will not be able to continue to take advantage of the US

>>8594109
again, very little of this has to do with politics. there was plenty of crazy shit last year, and everything just went straight up for no goddamned reason.

>>8594082
both of those websites ARE banned in china and have been for a while. look into the great firewall of china

>>8594008
fuck its MSCI not Goldman. Rest applies.

What the fuck is with Robinhood options trading? You have to open and close every leg individually? On my damn phone? Are they insane? Am I taking crazy pills?

fuck drumpf and fuck white people

>>8594159
dont worry man just hold and buy that dip ull b fine

>>8594159

Everything is fucked

based gamers

>>8594149
robinhoods options GUI is fucking garbage. youd be better off with literally any other brokerage

>>8594094
Literally anyone other than Trump would have been good for the markets. The economy was already recovering, all he needed to do was fucking nothing.

>>8594173
I have little money left to buy the dip, I bought the dip yesterday. How can I keep buying dips if I have no more money?

baaased

>>8594328
then what the fuck happened last year? was it a fluke?

>>8594337
i was fucking with him because its /leftypol/ notice the google charts and catchphrase. do not buy any of these dips and do not go long until we find a bottom

>>8594135
i checked Faceshit is banned but google isnt but thats besides the point. They are commies with all the factories they can just kick all the US tech shit out they will have to rwlocate and set up operations again in the US and elswhere it will be a major clusterfuck that will fuck up their prices all top institutions and their clients own faceshit and Appleshit Microshit Googleshit and other shit

Dow futures +50 with nikkei about to open

>>8594362
>then what the fuck happened last year? was it a fluke?
Literally fucking nothing.

anybody here specialize in trading forex markets and charts? im interested in learning more but not sure where to continue from where im currently at

Who else shorting the markets for the rest of the year and hoping to make bank

>>8594056
That's really the plan. Things are cheap now and I figure all the fucking commie cucks are going to pour in come 2020 when the state flips blue again. I just want to own property in the gay side of town to collect rent until the end times.

>Mfw my grandparents owned a home in NYC and sold it in the 90s
That place must be worth millions...

>>8594368
>They are commies
dont say that too loud, youll anger /leftypol/
>kick all the US tech shit out they will have to rwlocate and set up operations again in the US and elswhere
good. this is literally the point.
>major clusterfuck that will fuck up their prices all top institutions and their clients own faceshit and Appleshit Microshit Googleshit and other shit
good. thats why ive been short all month. i want their money.

>>8594410
what did i tell you guys back in the dow is crashing thread in your little commune a month ago? dont use google charts, youre missing all the carnage.

>Literally fucking nothing.
it was literally the best year for the stock markets ever. zoom out you tard

you commies always forget about the FED. half the shit you complain about is because of the FED. and last years rally was due to the FEDs 8 year vacation they went on, and every single one of those dumps this year coincided with FED FUD. dont you remember when i was i your thread and called that first one on the nose?

>>8594450
im doin it day to day. when this thing rallies, i dont want to be on the wrong side of it. 3% a day on the major indexes is normal now

>>8594362
it wasnt a fluke the markets went up on expectations of tax cuts and tax reform. and a pro business administration as well as positive data o. the US economy. Lets not give Drumpf a lot of credit here tho. He deserves credit for winning but the tax cuts were Paul Ryans soing and would have happened under any republican president

Im going to be bagholding the nikkei the rest of my foresaken life

>>8594550
Probably. But thats ok. Moon right now :-)

>>8594506
>it was literally the best year for the stock markets ever. zoom out you tard
Why do trumptards insist on disputing easily provable facts?

>>8594543
he definitely did excite the street given the jump that it had right after the election results.

but really political mumbo jumbo may be tied into some of the action weve seen, but the reason its so violent is because after nearly ten years of calm waters and placid scenery, the FED has to unwind QE and hike rates leaving us to wake up from the dream and realize, we are still in 2008. that problem never got solved. it got nationalized. and since then, its become internationalized. european banks never recovered from 08. and thats where we will see it start this time, im certain of it

>pic related

can anyone of you brainiacs PLS explain to me why the nasdaq and nasdaq futures are so out of line when the sp500/sp500 futures and the dow/dow futures are basically at the same levels (+/- a little bit)???

what does this mean

im a little fucked up right now, this thread doesn't usually go after hours... but what do you guys think about a long term straddle with SPY? any serious thoughts about how to trade it over the course of the next 3-6 months would be great

DRYS to 1.4B again r-right /biz/?

>>8594652
>that pic
lmao

>>8594634
Don't think of futures as directly related to the index. Changes in futures are pretty indicative of changes to the index upon open, but the actual value isn't as indicative

>>8594651
I'm pretty fucked up too broski. Making some fuckin tacos. 3-6months is a bit long for a straddle. I'd look narrow and short term, but thats just me

>>8594634
Proof of the wrong timeline.

>Nikkei

>>8594716
the japs usually copy america if we have a bad day

why are you surprised

>>8594680
>3-6months is a bit long for a straddle. I'd look narrow and short term
but a down trend could happen for another 3 months then uptrend within another three months tho right? im really just trying to capture gains on the premiums, what would be your time frame?

>>8594607
28% on the S&P is a lot my dude. im pretty sure it was the record. you can go check, but it gets all fucked because of how much the currency has fluctuated from the 20s

does anybody have anygood ideas for plants to put in front of a house the grows some time of fruit or vegetable and looks good at the same time?

I got high on coke awhile ago and ripped all the plants out in the front yard and now i need something to replace it because the hoa is getting on me because there needs so be some sort of landscape (besideds just grass) and i want to make my whole yard edible, any suggestions?

>>8594808
depends on your climate, Olive trees look pretty good, pistachios too

>>8594808
hibiscus bush. Flowers make good tea too.

>>8594835
its gotta be lower than a window. I live in southern california i was think strawberrys for ground cover but idk what for window height that would look good

>>8594950

Blueberries and dwarf citrus.

>>8594950
sage and lemongrass, Good for cooking pork

>>8594453
Please be the worst landlord and money grabber possible. I want them to suffer for making our fair state into a mess

So is it worth buying or do you guys think it'll go down further? Monday everything seemed fine.

>>8594988
blueberries might be my choice then strawberries below
>>8595008
they both kinda look like weeds tho..

>Literally spent this morning debating shorting Nasdaq/tech or buying Amazon
>Decided last week's dip was all FUD and now that tariffs turned out to be less than expected it was all good
>Bought Amazon at 1568

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
I'VE MADE MY MISTAKES

God damn I am bad at this.

>>8595292
dont get chopped up, just avoid shit until the variance ends and you get a clearer picture about where the market is going

it sucks making no moves one day feels like a 'wasted day' but you cant lose anything as long as your staying in USD

>>8595229
dunno m8
shits fucked

>>8595229
I feel like Institutions will do some buying and shorts could get squeezed.

it TQQQ jumps 10% i'm fucking off with my profits.

>>8591551

Imagine being dumb enough to believe this kek

>>8596503
oiamlaffinm8

though to be fair hiroshimoot sells all our data and always fuckin did.

>>8596503
I don't think anyone expected them to sell their data to anyone except the govt agencies. It's basically giving away their competitive advantage in advertising.

>SPY Is gong up afterhours

OH SHIT IT'S GONNA GAP UP. EXIT YOUR SHORTS (((THEY))) ARE PANNING TO SQUEEZE THE SHIT OUT OF EVERY ONE.
BEAR TRAP
BEAR TRAP
BEAR TRAP

Literally everything is already priced in. Price movements are an illusion, the market is not only efficient but meta-efficient: it has already accounted for the things it can't account for.

>>8596861
This but unironically

>>8596853
No, it will go up tomorrow but back down Thursday. I closed all the bearshit at close, I learned my leason monday

>>8597011
R8 M8

>>8597071
Seems probable

>>8597071
Probably gonna trend lower. Too much volatility will spook investors.

>>8597071
shits goin down man. no way it holds any kind of resistance who wants to buy shit when the markets just oscillating up and down 3% a day

>>8597185
*support

>>8597137
Daily Chart suggests a Bearish Reversal. But there is always a last gasp of volume before shit hits the fan.

So when it goes up under high volume, I'm gonna do a 100x leveraged short. If not I'll probably get evicted and self deport to mexico.

>>8591077
I was down nearly 7% today and I recovered.

Thanks a lot ALT

>>8597210
>I'm gonna do a 100x leveraged short. If not I'll probably get evicted and self deport to mexico.
i like your style

>>8597234
thou shalt not buy pajeet shit

>>8597185
The volatility seems a bit a above average, but It should not spook people right away.

The current catalyst may do us in soon. But how much damage can he really do in 4 years?

>>8597295
think this has more to do with FED than trump desu
big money isnt scared by politics. big money is scared of scandals in major industry leaders whos stock they hold, and bank problems. where theres smoke, theres fire

Just a friendly reminder that this forum has no expert knowledge nor should you take advice from anyone here.

That being said, I do work at an IB in New York and can tell you we have been recieving some big buy orders in GE and ABBV.

The 2-10 year is very tight right now, and we may see a negative spread flash. We have on average 18 months after the negative spread before a recession hits.

>>8597347
Shouldn't the markets already discounted the rate hikes before they where even announced?
I mean why would they keep telling people that it's a great time to buy?

>>8597387
> I do work at an IB in New York

stop lying bro

>>8597392
>I mean why would they keep telling people that it's a great time to buy?
to get out at a reasonable price.
nothings priced in. were up like a gajillion dollars. we have a long ways to fall, and to be honest, we need it. the fuck am i supposed to do? go long on a company thats $400/shr. shits retarded and it doesnt real

>>8597071
tea leaf reading

>>8597387
Dont mind us, we're just an underwater basket mining listserv

>>8597462
what the fuck was all that muh goldilocks scenario every one was spewing out? Every book I've read tells me if there is nothing wrong with the underlying business itself there is no real reason to sell.

>go long on a company thats $400/shr

They can always do a split and make it .04 cent ;^)

>>8597502
My tea leafs where giving me perfect entry and exit signals I choose to ignore.

>>8597347
It's both. This could end very badly if both rates and Trump happen simultaneously.

>>8597543
>muh goldilocks
i have no idea what the fuck everyones been smoking, but if that insane volatility snap didnt set off any alarms two months ago, then i guess it was bound to take a couple more before it sunk in. ive been bearish since the sell off on the end of january.

>nothing wrong with the underlying business itself there is no real reason to sell
and after the initial panic i bet a lot of things will do ok. but you just cant get around the fact that if the biggest corps in the market are floundering, pretty much everything will step into line too. sideways for some, horribly bearish for aforementioned overvalued dogshit companies.

the violent corrections and swings have a lot to do with all the wild stuff thats happening to our currency right now that havent happened in a long while. like i said. nothings priced in. especially when the underlying currency is going in a unexpected direction

>>8597639
trumps not gonna "happen". turn of the televivision and think about this logically. if you wanna be actually scared, go look at some charts for europoor banks. euro is fucked

>>8592072
Good luck with that moody unpredictable shit. Swing trade shares between 11 and 13 sure, but I'm not touching those options. Poison.

>>8591293
>>8591348
They still haven't understood why they lost and now that the Facebook stuff came to light, they're all blaming them. Zuckerberg is a traitor to the left and an enemy to the right. Literally no one likes him now.

Is going all in on spotify once it becomes public a good idea?

>>8597775
No.

>>8597756
i cant imagine why anyone liked him before. he was a fucking freak. a lizard. malevolent as they come.

everyones insane, retarded, or both. its the only explanation. clearly, given current market trends (oscillations?) this extends to investors too

Check out this new drone meme UAVS
stock twits telling this has a market cap of 130K

anyone else afraid to buy anything?

>>8597893
Yea it feels like the market got speed wobbles and its too scared to stop.

>>8597814
I don't think anyone beside his investors have ever liked him. Only difference now is that they hate him.

>>8597387
I'll buy all the GE I can when it hits $12. Please keep going down.

What do you think about REITs in this environment? i have my eyes on a couple, and in a bear market i've read they perform ok. Looking to get into some with good dividends that i can hold

is the nasdaq ponzi over, fellas?

Yesterday was pretty ok

>>8597387
>GE
when have they made a good decision last time ?

eurobros whats a good etf that tracks physical gold with low expense?google doesnt help that much

>tfw fell for the bull trap

how do i use robinhood if i live in europe but have american citizenship?

do i need an american credit card to have access to the US apple store?

also, how to quickly sign up for american credit card online?

>>8598899
Absolutely no idea. What is your bank ?

>>8598915
Try entropay. Not really american but yfw

>>8598915
You can get a capital one checking account online.

Night night everyone. I'll see you in hell in the morning

>>8598899
I'm a Mexican national (illegal kek), I just used an ID with my US address.

I would recommend sure trader, you can day trade without 20K deposit.

>>8598971
You have to go back

>>8598967

goodnight hunny

>>8598935
i only have a euro bank

>>8598940
>>8598938
thanks for the response

>>8598971
nice, so robinhood has that shitty ass limit thing for day trading???

Is sure trader the best? Are they only for American? Do they have fees? How do you deposit?


Should i use *degiro* instead senpai?.. i dont have 20k at the moment to deposit and that's what all the plebs on redit use.. and it would be directly linked to my bank.

>>8598996
I'm actually thinking about it. Lets go down to TJ and fuck some hookers and overdose on coke ;^)

What do you guys think of investments like MORL or CEFL with big yields? do you consider these good long holds, or is the market too risky right now?

>>8599044
Euro banks generally have plans allowing you to trade on US markets for relatively cheap. I know my bank (LBP) has.

>>8599044
>Is sure trader the best? Are they only for American? Do they have fees? How do you deposit?

Firm is located in the Caribbean, it's open to US persons.
It's $50 max per trade, they offer 6:1 and you can wire the funds to your bank account and deposit from your credit card. It's shitty compared to other brokers but the 20K exemption make up for it.

I deposited $1,000 but I can use leverage and trade $6,000 at a time, so a 10% is actually 60%. Minimum is $500 but no leverage.

You can go Long and Short. I haven't tried options though.

>Those Dojis

That did they mean by this?

>>8599108
Oh shit wow i feel like an idiot for not knowing this lol.

>>8599137
Thanks bud. I think the trading fees might eat me up but i'll look into it.

>>8599262
bulls and bears having a low volume tug of war

>>8599272
>trading fees

Just don't over trade and make sure every trade you make has a good risk/reward ratio, I started by Shorting shit that has gone 150%+ in one day.

>>8599282
Looks like bears might get squeezed tomorrow.
TVIX is packed with scrubs.

>meme growth stock you picked drops 8% despite no relevant price affecting news
>its almost purely cause bunch of fags use it as a kick ball on the markets

The absolute shantytown of the ASX.

>>8599606
>going long in a bear market
desu senpai

>>8599320
>Just don't over trade and make sure every trade you make has a good risk/reward ratio
i like scalping desu

>>8599346
so the opening candles are the most important?

Just.