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By popular request.

>inb4 AMD shilling

If you received $40,000 US dollars, how would you invest it?

>>848145
AMD, now is clearly the time to buy.

It would depends on each anons situation. I'm a university student but I have good income from other ventures so I'd probably put 80% in various index and tracker funds and 20% 'play money'. That might be too aggressive for some, or not passive enough for others.

If I had any outlying debts, I'd pay them off.

>>848147
What sort of other ventures?

>>848149
I've bet on football (mostly lower div, youth, women) for years and do it full time over holiday periods.

>>848147
>clear downtrend

short this shit

Why scalping is not the best strategy?

Scalping strategy has around 80% accuracy.

I'm talking about markets with great volatility, such as indexes.

>>848159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0akBdQa55b4

>>848136
vnrap

>>848165
It is if you make it work.

>>848169
Whats the dip?

>>848136

AAPL Is about to skyrocket. You're welcome

>>848173
>>848212
>no reasoning

>>848260
>preferred
>extreme dip
>implied 40% return
>12% dividend rate

>>848260
OMG IS UGLY
KILL IT!

>>848267
>insulting pepesso

Well the thread could have been a bit more active but good to get it back and running.

Hmm......

>>848136
VTL and AVXL poised for takeoff like AQXP did.

VTL releasing results of liver drug in september. Sitting on tons of cash recently for research, so they obviously put it to some use.

AVXL just received a grant for more cash for research. Good leadership team and just check the trend. The trend is your friend.

newfag fx questions allowed?
How far back should I backtest my system?
Backtesting by hand is very tedious.
From what I can tell, my system would have made 70% profit it was applied since april. But I doubt it would work like this forever, as I still haven't figured out a way to cut losses in a ranging market
It's based on H4 timeframe btw

>>848147
>not candlesticks
>no volume
this is what I get for looking at a business board on 4chan

>>848619
It was sarcasm m8, see earlier post.

>>848142
>Two posts
>"By popular request"
kek

Here's a free bump. I enjoy watching bad threads burn and fail.

>>848645
>I enjoy watching bad threads burn and fail.

Get a load of this guy pmsl

>>848136
> all beginners welcome

I'm a Finance student, but I learn nothing about trading at school. Where to start?

>>848618
H4 is such a bad time frame. Use time frames that other traders use
1M 5M 15M 30M 1H 1D 1W etc

>>848653
lrn2internet

What is happening to GOOGL/GOOG. Why +4% after-hours?

>>848709
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2015/08/10/what-the-heck-google-restructures-as-alphabet-shares-up-4-a-h/

>the company this afternoon announced a restructuring in which its public equity will be reconstituted under a company called “Alphabet,” which will replace Google Inc. as the public entity.

>>848147
Wipe please. Go fund paki terror with other pump and dump AMD meme is old

>>848657
>>848659
woah there keyboard ceo

>>848709
>>848717
Nice.

Sup nerds, I'm basically blank when it comes to stocks and investment and would like to get into it. I recently looked at binary options and realized its a meme, so I was thinking stocks is the way to go to invest money. I've read a little about forex trading and whatnot but could use a little more in depth knowledge on trading stocks. Things like how do you trade them? Where to look for resources etc. How did you start? Do you read news regarding your stocks, and if, does it influence it majorly? How to actually know when to buy or sell if it isnt obvious?
>inb4 google it

alphabet
AlphaBet
Alpha Bet
Sky Bet
Alpha Net
Sky Net

Happening.

>>848810
first of all, you dont want to invest in 3rd longest bullmarket in history. Now is the time to swingrade/daytrade
next you need to get some books and learn about fundamental and technical analysis. Then you need to read some more books. Then after you get some basic knowledge you need to rely on your own formulated opinion from the basic knowledge you accumulated earlier. Basically dont take advice on a specific stock and always take your own thinking into effect. Learning about technical trading is not the same as recommending or listening to recommendations of stocks. If you listen to other people and when something goes wrong you will not know why or where to learn from. If something goes wrong and it is your fault well at least you can learn and correct it.
From there experience is the only thing that will forge the iron. You can try using a demo account or you can just jump in heads first with your own cash.
Cash is king for a reason and it's better to be holding cash and moving in and out of a play than holding a play as an investment when it can turn into bag holding.
If you really want to hold long term and have investments, do this. When you make any profits, Do not sell out all. Leave a small % of the profits behind. This way it is houses money and you are not too concerned if it is going up or down in the short term as that is what your major capital is for while you can let this small profit holdings accumulate over time.

Read about Jesse Livermore. Read the book 'born to steal:when the mafia hit wallstreet' read the book ugly americans about the 80s asian markets. read about J. Welles Wilder, Jr..
Keep reading but never take advice in the specifics unless you want to be a weak minded drone.

>>848819
Seems like solid advice to me. I knew there's a lot to learn and I've already looked at demo accounts and such but I know there's not point doing anything yet because I dont know what the fuck I am doing. Thanks though

>>848835
It's a demo though. Trial by fire. You shouldn't expect to know any game right away as soon as you start playing. But especially with this game you need to learn by doing and not watching. Even demo will not be actuality because when you switch to cash even if it is only 5,000$ it will be totally different feeling from live cash to fake demo. But it is still a step and you can learn the systems and strategy.

Never invest with emotion. Think if you are some emotionless being, you do not even exist. Trade like you do not exist is the key.

>>848835
http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school

>>848136
SGYP, MRGE, EBIO, BBEP, NFLX, NBG,COST,JBLU

>>849019
Your portfolio or what? Also where's Alphabet (google) heading to? How much upside potential is there now, or is it time to sell (the news)?

I'm reading the Intelligent Investor by Graham.
Like it so far, a good intro book to investing.

Also, how bad is it if a company has more total liabilities than current assets?

What do you guys think about investing in the marijuana industry atm

>>848136
These are the 3 that I'm currently watching
http://www.fool.com/quote/nyse/chesapeake-energy/chk
http://www.fool.com/quote/nyse/range-resources/rrc
http://www.fool.com/quote/nyse/monsanto/mon

>>849383
I owned MRGE before it went up up up, same with nflx. COST is a safe bet, so is JBLU.

SGYP and BBEP I have some stock but its speculative. EBIO I dropped, I held on to it for too long.

>>849457
range and chesapeake are ok

monsonto? what a fag. FAG FAG FAG.

Finally, we're coming off these highs.

Fuck oil. It's going to $10

>>849463
Why? Monsanto has no debt, they're profitable, they have new product lines and aren't afraid of innovation.

>>849476
Range Resources isn't oil, you big retard. It's natural gas.

>>848136
I found a company with pretty solid financials that is grossly undervalued. It happened all of a sudden when a few execs left the company all at once.

http://quote.morningstar.com/stock-filing/Announcement/2015/6/25/t.aspx?t=:GEEK&ft=8-K&d=53e8dc16e47339392195c170b6b6424d

why did this happen? The fundamentals are still decent, and two owners just bought about 200K worth of stock recently. Is this a good buy?

>>849481
https://www.google.com/finance/historical?q=OTCMKTS%3AGEEK&ei=pinKVaCKB-qxiwKDgq2oDg

funties are solid five years running

>>849442
heard a guy made 20 grand a while ago from 200 bucks. He bought penny stocks

>>849487
marijuana penny fad is long over. It was over when all those idiots were hyping it up. That is the blow off phase. Now they are in perpetual downtrends and if you think that is the worst they can throw at you, just wait until they R/S.

>>849442
You best off investing in legit biotech stocks since they too are researching and investing into potential use of mary jane.

>>848819
>first of all, you dont want to invest in 3rd longest bullmarket in history
This is my biggest issue, just starting up. I wish we were in a trough, I feel like market sentient and confidence is so low at the moment. There again, I also believe that a lot of so called issues like Fed rate hikes are essentially priced in. It's so talked about and worried about, by the time it comes nothing will happen.

>>849765
market can price it in all it wants. but nobody knows how far or how fast they will try to raise rates. also the #1 risk factor is the debt level that will be put upon the debt can grow so fast that it alone can bring it all crashing down, and this is only talking a few point moves to 2-3% fed fund rate. if they try to go to 4-6% historical norms it will crush economy to debt payments. none of this is even considering also unfunded liabilities that are around 100trillion give or take a few fucking trillion. all while inside a global currency war where everyone is pretending they are not fighting the race to the bottom. this reset moment should it come is a very rare moment but has happened before in history, this time it is on a global scale as before it was limited to a country(s). Yuan trying to decouple so they can get into the IMF SDR but its just too late, and the NWO horizon is fast approaching.

>>848757
>$707.5
is that in US dollars? why is it so high, yahoo finance says it's highest it traded was $678

>>849442
it's hard for any company to get needed funding due to federal legislation. which means, once the funding problem is taken care of, a number of stocks will start going up.

>>849940
high of day for monday was 712 you dweeb. learn to read a chart

>>848212
No the shit it isn't. It always goes down right before an announcement

You guys better hop on the TBEV gravy train. Starts sales on the 18th.

>>850002
used to own 1million shares tbev
now just 100k shares after their BS R/S
They are scammers and have billions of shares outstanding now. Good luck getting anywhere substantial for any amount of time above that 200dma.
But sure the groups behind it will pump it for another 300-500% but when the liquidity vanishes overnight someone will be left holding the bag, as always.
best coarse of action would be buying 10million shares and selling on a 50% pop keeping 2million shares behind to ride longterm. if it happens to drop to .0004 then you buy 10million more shares and if .0003 you also do 10million more and then you hold the bag until some coke snorting group comes along to pump it up above .001 for you. If you actually believe in the company story then you are just a fucking tool. But its more likley you are a low level pumper strolling the random boards to name drop doing a numbers game.

Atlas Resource Partners (ARP)
>2.89
>$0.1083 monthly dividend

I sold all my preferred Cliffs Natural Resources CLV. I made $40 so i didn't feel so bad getting rid of it so quickly. I should have realized that investing in an iron and coal company with $1.3B in debt while almost every commodity price is in the tank.

These are just my small "gambling" holdings. high risk/high dividend. but if they tank, oh well I'm not out much

>>850002
>>850006

wait wait wait
>quote $0.0006

one share is six hundredths of on cent?

>>850032
No its on tripple 0's thats a million.

Tenths, hundredths, thousandths, then a million.

Pay 100 bucks on a trip 1 and you got yourself a million shares.... and yes if it goes to .0002 off of .0001 you double your money.

5000 shares of AMD here.... GOOOO AMD!!!

Hey /biz/raelis, what do you think about sector specific etfs?

I'm a candle following the Canadian couch potato portfolio. 25% to us index, intl index, can index and can bond index. I have a few grand that I'm willing to increase my risk with. I am considering a water etf, cww, which is on the TSE. It's a smaller fund but I'd like to increase my exposure while the dustbowl of this century forms and threatens us all.

>>850032
well if it helps your astonishment .0001 is the lowest you can quote on level2. I hear stories of market makers getting .00005 before but I do not have verification.
The guy spouting TBEV was likely paid in shares or paid in fiat by someone who was paid in shares, to pump the company. I've been watching it already and its setting up technically so this makes sense. you should stay away it's plenty of other plays to fuck around with but if you do fuck around i wouldn't put more than 2k$ and id sell half shares on 100% pop. and or whatever profits leave behind in shares. But in the OTCBB it is best to just take the money and run. Do it again in the next momo play. GL

>>848136

So is AMD a good buy? Can someone explain.

>>850163
no. if you fuck with AMD you are fucking with garbage on the level of SIRI
and if you do not know how garbage siri is then just put your own damn self into the fucking trash
AMD IS FUCKING TRASH they are constantly dumping shares onto the public and have been for over 10 years.
MAYBE only after a R/S would AMD be worth a look, but then they would just ago abusing issuing shares to increase the shares outstanding count and do it all over again. While you suckers fall in love with the story and let your cash sit idle for months, and even worse years.

>>848136
How do I stock invest?

>>850188
With currency

>>850188
>>850197

He definitely means
>what are the basics of investing in the stock market?
Ins and outs, starts and ends. dos and don'ts.

Not buying anything right now. I've been getting stopped out left and right. Some at a loss and some profit. Overall down 4% YTD but my short positions are starting to move big time. Sell you sonsabitches sell.

Apple down to 110

IT'S CRASHENING

Where's the guy that put his live savings into BABA?

>>850455
fell off a cliff, died on impact.

>buy jnug yesterday
>pulls entire portfolio up 10% today

jesus christ

>>848173

Last time I posted in one of these threads in fall 2013 I suggested Under Armour for long term investors, who listened?

>>851080
that's look like a nice bubble there... could we see a few years back and see if it was trading under 10?

>>851092
>could we see a few years back
sure np here is close up view.

>>851092
I sold last week right before it hit 100$ and had a little sell off

>>850067
Unless windows 10 really brings up PC sales AMD is a goner. The PC market in general is consolidating AMD is fighting on two fronts and losing both. I guess a buyout is possible but due to anti-competition I guess it can't be Nvidia or Intel and after Microsoft's nokia and Google's Motorola right down i doubt their looking to get into the hardware space again.

>>851111
yeah that's a total bubble

I have 40k to invest currently
what companies should i invest in?
How do i earn money from this shit?
does buy low sell high always work?
thanks for the help goyim

>>851162
Windows 10 won't do shit for MSFT:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3364715-windows-10-matters-not-a-statistical-study-of-windows-releases-on-earnings

>>851327
preferreds
buy under call and coupon
dividends are the way to go for a stress-free investment

So, Olive Garden's stocks have skyrocketed. I've officially been with the company for a year now and have the option to invest in stocks within the company. Price was about $42 when I started working for them, and is up to $75ish per stock now. I know basically nothing about the stock market. Should I spend my vacation pay on it? Looks like it's going to keep going for another year or so.

When's the China crash coming boys. I'm waiting to buy the dip.

Where do you guys use to research stocks? Finviz?

Anyone know what's going on in obscure microcap CAPN right now? No position, and believe it's far too late to chase, but what the fuck +90% on no news?

>>848136
RXII long

>>851327
give me 10% and i'll teach you all i know.

I've just put all my savings into bitcoins a few days ago @ $275 (about 12k). I've read on Bitcoin forums that a future value of ~$1000 is realistic. Hope it's gonna happen.

Umm... I forgot I bought stocks years ago when I was fucking around and just checked on ETRADE. I have over $16,000 now. Do I keep it in there? I mean, I don't really need it right now...

>>851859
Pics or you're a liar

>>851861
Seriously? Isn't that unsafe?

>>851867
>>851859
Shut up. Here is the two realities.
Either you are a stupid cunt to ever forget about stocks you got years ago and only to just check now.
Or you are a liar.

You are a stupid cunt or a liar. Those are your choices. As to what you should do? Kill yourself.

>>851875
HOLY SHIT

>>851867
FUCKING REKT. SON YOU JUST GOT REKT FUCK.

I'm long on Scholastic (SCHL) and UrtheCast Corp (TSX:UR)

>>851875
>>851889
Do all poor people get this mad? Now I'm really afraid to post it... you might seriously hurt yourself or someone else

>>851898
Only an idiot would let cash sit around in an account without checking it, doesn't matter if it is 1,600 16,000 or 16million. Then you come here asking what you should do. How about check your account more often and have some fucking motivation you lazy shit.

>>851111

>dividend yield
>0.0%

LMAO, nice "investment" you made there buddy.

Absolute newfag here. Is it possible to buy low sell high the same stock every day and earn a profit if it's jumping up and down in a relatively the same pattern?

>>851965
No the FBI will arrest you for excessive trading

>>851965
No; my friend found this out the hard way. He didn't get in trouble, but he was warned and his account was suspended for a bit.