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Yes

>>841370

every kid will have to take a programming class, like they do keyboarding.


So it's a 50/50, get in while it's still hard.

>>841377
and that is somehow going to allow every kid to be able to really program?

>>841378

No, but you're going to have kids that can make angry birds for homework. Yes you will be able to create a miniature world of war craft all by yourself by then, but then there will be more of you.

So it's best you get in while people are still dumb.

>>841381
kids have trouble programming "Hello, world!", you think they are going to be able to program something like angry birds? come on m8

>>841377
Kids already struggle with basic math and science. A programming course will just add to the headache.

>>841387
>>841383

Okay with how everything looks now with everyone viewing people based on their Instagram followers or whatever bs, you're right.


But then I visit /r9k/, we still have to remember there's an ever growing population of NEETs. Angry ones that want a fembot so bad they might as well use all that hate to make one themselves.

lol wtf am I talking about

You understand

No it all of a sudden collapsed and is worthless now despite no "future events" that would negatively impact it being announced.

Who do you think is going to replace the ever-evolving fields and the people that write software for it?

There are fuck tons of shit coders. Good coders are still in demand and probably will be for a long time.

There has been a growing problem of shit coders trying to get jobs in droves though. It's hard to get recognized for what you are because of the mass amounts of people faking it.

>>841406

This is what I was trying to say :^)

Bump

All computer programming jobs will lead to this by 2017

yeah, it is. as long as you dont shoq up with that haircut and goatee.

>>842061
He literally looks like a goat. Do people really think that haircut/facial hair is attractive on that face?

>>841370
Northern europe here. Yes. They always need programmers.

What can I do with a Computer Programming and Analysis diploma. What are my options to transfer into?

Sorry for the retarded question, I'm fucking lost

How do I enjoy programming?
It makes me want to kill myself.
Alternatively what is a decent paying career related to IT that's still relatively niche but needed?

>>841406
Exactly. If you're a very skilled programmer, you will have no trouble getting a decently paid job. However, that means having at least a STEM degree, and preferably something like a PhD in comp sci. And sometimes you will still have shit coders who somehow manage to take your place.

>mfw am a skilled coder who worked for a while with a shit coder and we got paid the same

Prepare for immediate saturation as the LoL generation suddenly finishes university.

>>842202
i can confirm that people who play LoL dont finish anything

>>842176
>mfw i am a shit coder who runs a team of good coders
My boss likes me because my team meets deadlines, my team likes me because i deal with normies so they don't have to.

>>842202
Why are LoL players such subhuman degenerates?

>>842176
>and preferably something like a PhD in comp sci
Why in the world would you waste time and money on a PhD in comp sci when you could be getting hands-on experience instead? The PhD isn't going to teach you how to work in a team, work with other people's code, deal with deadlines and client expectations.

>>843618
Agreed. My old boss is now a director at Facebook book and told me to not even wast time going back to school for a masters because i am already in the industry working. not saying a masters would hurt but a PhDs I feel is more academic related.

>>842916
>>842916
kek you are just a good manager then, leave that coding shit behind and make your millions that way

Coding is a viable career path. Just make sure you get an internship in college. I can't emphasize enough how important your first step is in the tech industry.

>wanting to be 'the IT guy'

>>844319
>IT guy
>Programmer
This is not the same thing.

>>844324

it will be :^)

>>844332
your shitty jew memes dont even make sense idiot

>>844338

Couldn't find the "Theyfoundout.jpg"

Still, he's going to be doing everything IT related even if they only hired him to be a programmer.

>>844342
Silly anon, installing adobe and unfucking PCs is what college interns are for.

>>843618
You're right. All those programmers who write the low-level, high-performance systems learned it from reading one book and then hands-on experience. Nobody needs to understand the complicated theoretical concepts and the mathematics required to get a PhD.

http://www.troyhunt.com/2013/02/the-ghost-who-codes-how-anonymity-is.html

sup guys, should I still bother with CS?

I got a B only because professor curved in my Java class. I having a lot of self doubt cause I just wasn't getting this language and just barely made it through. This shouldve been another easy A

It should be noted I had the highest grade in the class when I did C++. I found it so easy. Scared I won't make it especially compared to some of the guys here that are on another level

>>845104

how the fuck do you ace C++ but fail Java? that doesn't even make sense..

>>843618
>>843627
>>844380
A PhD is useful in the higher levels of software engineering. This is where you need to know pure science and maths with your coding skills.

>>845197
Java is a shit language.

>>845205

true, but it's most definitely simpler.

>>844499
Is Iris Classon really a good example? Women tend to get a lot of hype just for being a woman if she's in a STEM area.

Overall, this was very nice read as I myself could've easily have been a "ghost".

>>845220
> it's most definitely simpler.
Not at all. If you are on the left side, it just seems easier because you are basically copy/pasting functions other people created.

There will always be demand for programmers because most programming jobs are pretty shitty. Sure you get paid well but it can be soul sucking and very unrewarding.

>>845240

whatever they are going to cover in a college course is most definitely easier in Java. also 99% of everything else.

>>845294

haha yeah, good one! less competition for us.

>>845240
This, Java is filled with shitty programmers. I understand C, Python, and Sql much better than Java. Java forces me to copy and paste which pisses me off because I want to know why this or that happens.
>>845220
Its not "simpler", its idiot proof by just copying and pasting. This is why C is recommended by experienced software engineers for beginners.

>>841377
>>841381
> programming world of warcraft

Seriously you don't even know how much a tenth of the work is to program a game like that. You need a huge foundation of physics and math to even begin the task, there is a lot more to it than you think. It is a hard game to program.

Same with angry birds, there is some math involved that you would need either a lot of experience with to program correctly or have a great mathematics and physics base to make it work.
>>841406
Its because there isn't enough supply for the job market.

>>842176
> Needing a Phd to get a decently paid job in CS
The next part of your post entirely contradicts the first part you said, obviously the unskilled person you had to work with didn't have a Phd.

>>842202
> League players
> Programming anything
They can't even make good scripts and bots for the game they play. To add on that playing games =/= enjoying programming.

>>842116
pls respond

>>842116
A job in web or software development.

Or you can transfer to a university and get a bachelors.