/biz/ - Business & Finance

Stocks?
More like cocks :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
why you guys aren't like real men and invest in speculative crypto?

>>8177811
bretty ebin :))))))

Bend over lads. Today's going to get interesting

Morning all

>>8177902
That's ok because I have been riding on /smg/-sama's shoulders and have solid stock picks

>>8177904
sup bill

Will INPX ever recover?

Trading is retarded. You have two options:

A) Make it a fulltime job and be insanely good at it and you'll only make 5~15% per year which is literally less than you'll make at McDonalds (unless you're somekinda rich faggot)

B) Gamble and maybe get lucky until you eventually lose everything when your luck runs out.

Is everything gonna drop today?

>>8177938
Oh ok thanks

>>8177938
Personally I don't trade m8
I am currently researching Nissin Foods because ramen will be all we can afford to eat in a near future

>>8177957
Looking at the futures and yesternight's AH, seems so

>>8177957
I feels like it might drop before close.

>>8177938
>not trading whilst working full time to maximize gains
Never gonna make it.

>>8177938
>gamble till you make a few hundred thousand
>invest in dividends
>live comfy in a cheap house innawoods hunt’n n fish’n all day
It’s not hard to figure out

>>8177982
>gamble till you make a few hundred thousand

kek
the absolute state of this place

Tell me why i should invest in badCrypto beyond my 401k

>>8177938
>one weird trick that grantees money fore life

Curious to see what Sun RUN does today. Looks like we recovered a bit overnight.

SNR and GNL almost have me in the green for the year. Someone shill me a good long term hdividend hold for $25 or less. Bonus points if it isn't a REIT.

How are we all doing this morning? Sipping an espresso but tired as fuck. Probably have another right after.

Sell all the shorts and buy the dip on longs today is the plan right? Tariffs+Jew resignation means it's going to come tumbling down a bit as I take it

CLSD
CLSD
CLSD
CLSD

PHASE 3 RESULTS

>>8177938
That's the point mong

most daytraders are pretty rich already which is why they do that to begin with

>>8177938
>Oy ve, goyim. You can't beat the market or make a living. Just stay in your cubicle farm and put all of your money into your (((401k)))

>>8178153
teach me senpai

>>8178179
>that drop

kek show the whole thing nigger

>>8178045

same, tired from pulling a double yesterday. liking all these FUD events though they keep moving this bull market sideways which is great because i get to accumulate with more of my paychecks for longer before the next leg higher. feels good keep the cuck panics coming pls

What the hell is going on? Everything was green yesterday.

>>8178194
People capturing profits
And short sellers

>>8178153

You fall under option B) shitlord. You're not fooling anybody.

I jack off before market open.
What do you guys do?

>>8178187
>>8178215
Your salty tears fuel my gains.

>>8178194

you actually trip and pretend to know anything about the market and you don't even know gary cohn resigned? lmfao

>>8178215
Why does luck have to run out before some one from option B) goes into option A)?

>>8178261
Oh shit that's right that came out after close yesterday.

>>8178261
Remember that all tripfags are larpers. They never even have the balls to screen cap their portfolios.

already made about $300 before the day started

shorted UVXY last night at 18.40, covered at 17.60

>>8178279

yeah just learned a lot from his 1 post. larpers...

>>8178248

you literally proved his point idiot

you made a thousand bucks in 3 months

could have made it in a week with a steady job

Buy the dip

Fuck AMRS and their (((shills)))

What do you guys has playing has background noise?

I'm listening to Bloomberg live

>>8178358

rich homie quan

>>8178332
I really wish everyone would quit shitting themselves everytime he tweets. He always throws out the worse to force them to negotiate. Everytime. Anyone on either side who hasn’t figured this out is a retard. Just sit back and see where it goes.

>>8178339
>Taking advice from /smg/
It's gambling and memes son.


>>8178358
Roxy Music

>>8177788
More quality work from OP. Saved once again. I'm making an /smg/ folder.

>>8178380
Listen to this man

Trump is a businessman. He knows how to negotiate. Evaluate his leverage and the odds to success regarding the objectives, hit them hard and drink the tears of the other parties.

>>8178358
CNBC. I love listening to the Boomers argue about bonds and whatnot. They also make some good calls from time to time.

>>8178263
It's statistically extremely unlikely to be that lucky. Need proof? Try it yourself.

>inb4 i already made it.
no you didnt. post proof or stfu

>>8178452
>Filed for bankruptcy 6 times
>Businessman

We're fucked, but it's alright.

>imagine investing literally any money into something that isn't crypto
Are you guys just hyper risk averse soy boys, over diversifying cucks or actually mentally retarded?

VTGN did it again.

>>8178452
He is a real estate troll and corporate raider. far from an actual business man

>>8178479
>experienced failures
>still billionnaire
>still became president

You shouldn't trust people who never make mistakes
The greatest mark of a leader is to experience catastrophic failures, deal with them and carry on

Like John Melo with AMRS

>>8178483
You have the whole board to post ruskie and pajeet scams. Leave our single thread alone.

>>8178530
>AMRS AND Trump shill

I'm sorry for your brain damage. Trump is a fucking wizzard. His followers are retards, however.

>>8178539
I'm asking a genuine question. I'm not shilling a coin or telling you to get in. I'm asking why when you are so clearly aware of crypto (you must be as you are on /biz/) do you ignore it for Stock Markets?

>>8178479
>>8178519
>>8178530
Either way his entire strategy is forcing the other side to call his bluff. Then shitting on them for not compromising when they do. It’s not hard to figure out.

Also, what’s with the anti stock shills today? Did crypto take a shit again?

>>8178589
I don't know man, crypto currency seems like a scam. Like aren't they just ponzi schemes?

>>8178589
Most people here (myself included) trade both. This thread is about STOCKS. Keep crypto discussion out.

>tfw I still can't re-enter BPMX

>>8178261
I'm not happy about the tariff shit either, it'll drive the cost of steel up; which may 'help' the 200,000ish However, in the steel/aluminum industry. Now there are about 6,000,000+ workers that are employed by businesses that USE steel. They're going to have to be paying higher costs now so it'll hurt them. It's a losing situation for politicians to flout around like this. Tariffs result in a tax on the country imposing them through higher prices. That being said Cohn was a proto-globalist Goldman boy so I have mixed feelings about him being gone. Regardless, the markets dont like it.

P.S. me every time I buy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Q6wWu5ziY

>>8178696
sold half of my stack yesterday for mad gains. Its probably gonna dip to the 20s again before the ER so just wait it out boi

>>8178027
It's been a roller coaster with sunrun

FUUUUCCCCKKK DRUUUUMPPFFFFFFF

dow futures down 1.11% at the bell

>>8178849
>Literally Buying at the Top

kek

TVIX niBBa

Looks like I wrong about a dump taking place today. I'm glad about that.

>>8178795
you know (((who))) to blame

Bears gonna get BTFO by end of day

I feel it

>>8178849
>$13k
Get on MORL senpai, enjoy generous dividend yield.

>>8178849
>buy high sell low
the memes just write themselves at this point.

Who wants to buy some JDST with me and live on the edge today?

YES TIME TO START LOADING

TSLA almost to buy point boys

Is there any way to transfer money faster? Like to E-Trade.

>>8179011
Isn't tesla gona get rekt by the tariffs?

>>8179051
they don't make money anyway, what do they care if they lose more money?

>>8177788
pls OP i need those logos in high quality size!

>>8179011
What TA makes you say it is a buy ?
The 50d MA just crossed the 20d MA in a bullish manner ?

>a stock's price gone high
>sell it
>buy another dip
>repeat

>>8179088

>>8179051
TSLA follows hype cycles. Until they make money just buy low sell high. Look at the 2yr chart for guidance

>buy mainstream stocks
YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW!

>>8179120
MOAR!!

>>8179088
Herpshire Derpaway

big thing coming up for XXII

>>8179088
Krapos Defecation

>>8179168
is it YUGE??

true if big

>>8179094
Pick it up if it goes below 310

it will bounce to at least 350 in another month. Thats been the pattern the last couple years at least, the buy and sell point have been steadily creeping up.

So happy I picked up CRM at the dip

>>8179088
Pepepsi

Sold BPMX for 20% gains. Just bought back in. Wish me luck.

>>8179088
Top Keks

Autism is here >>8178530

GunJew is here >>8178894

im just not looking at my portolio today. i saw i was already down 1.5 percent i the premarket. i assume my only stock doing well is my private water source ETF becasue the end is neigh.

>>8179088
Goatse Electric

>>8179196
Ok I see
Buy TSLA when it is near the lower Bollinger Bands on the 3 month chart
I will give it a try
Thx m8

oh snap i checked.

square and sony are killing it!

We Boomer now

>>8179067
kek

>buy puts on GE
>price goes down
>price of options doesn't go up
Weird

>>8179283
>>8179088
Here have some

Fuck im in the red fellas. are the bogs just lubing me up or is it just mild penetration?

>>8178723
Why not lower taxes for companies that support US industries?

>>8179329
Thanks doc, guess this is a hodl kind of day

>>8179361
>lower taxes even more
>inflation and debt increases

we need to take dollars out of circulation to increase consumer purchasing power, one way is jacking up taxes instead of interests rates.

>>8179250
i'd buy 100

DOWN DOW DOWN

>>8179329
>>8179250
>>8179223
>>8179205
>>8179177
>>8179160
>>8179120
>>8178894
>>8178530
thx

We've got top notch meme Crafters ITT

>>8179453
You’re welcome m8

Big things coming for our favorite block chain beverage company. LBCC

>>8179595

https://cointelegraph.com/news/beverages-gone-blockchain-announce-new-ceo-and-spinoff-after-second-nasdaq-delist-notice

>LIBB, now a wholly owned subsidiary of Long Blockchain, will split from Long Blockchain in the most appropriate manner: a “hard fork” if you will, which will allow stockholders equal claim to LIBB stocks and LBCC stocks at the time of the spin-off.

BASED Pep

>>8177957
no the pussies already sold after hours and only strong hands are left.

alright ive got an extra 300 to throw at shit, meme me up bois

>>8179815
HLIT

>>8179815
Withdrawal and start a dildo collection

>>8179815
INPX

>>8179815
SOYB

TEUM muthafrackers

Oh and AMD is the eternal meme

but our Goldman Sachs overlords were supposed to crash the market

>>8179849
Ah, the old "buy-high" technique. A staple of the /smg/ clan.

>>8177788
Just dont buy VTC, ENG, or XLM. They all suck.

>>8179906
Its gonna go higher

>>8179890
We really could have, and if a trade war actually does take place, the stock market is not going to be as friendly a place. But it seems buyers are still showing up to maintain prices, for now.

just go all in on Netflix full leverage and you will make free money

>not buying underpriced fundamentals and holding them forever or until they're overpriced

>>8179999
Those digits...
Buyout news coming today?

Apple? Tesla? Qualcomm?

>>8179982
>PE 227
>literally buying at the top.

You can't be this raterted. If it dips to 240 then it's a buy.

>>8179980
nice meme

>>8180047
there is no "top" you bafoon
learn to stock. something that keeps breaking all time high is likely to continue to do so

>>8180077
Netflix Tanked -80% back in 2011
a P/E that high is highly speculative.

141 Billion feels a little high for me. How much of that is committed capital and not speculative?

>Crypto is imploding because a whale's account got hacked

>Today I'm having unparalleled gains

Post good feels and gains cats /smg/

I thought there was supposed to be wailing and gnashing of teeth today but my portfolio looks alright now. What happened?

SPY EOD predictions, post em

>274

WHERE ARE MY FAT FUCKING CATS???????!!!!

what happens if you short something and it gets delisted?

>>8180033
My sekret strat

>>8180199
BIG CAT
BIG GAINS

>>8180047
>PE of 227
Holy fuck. Bubble burst when..

>>8180157
2011 market cant be compared to today in any way shape or form
also Im not holding it, Im trading it

>>8180158

>Crypto is imploding because a whale's account got hacked

pls be true.

I want all coinfags to off themselves.

>>8180157
That's not how market cap works.

Fuck this, I'm out.

How to trade?
>>8179913
Please someone guide me. Is it all about luck?

Talking about the Netflix PE of 227, how do you factor in the future PE of 77? Of course the past matters to predict the future, but isnt it more important to talk about what a stock is trading at now relative to what they anticipate to make in the future? 77 is still way high most stuff trades in like the 20s or 30s but it makes more sense than 200+

>>8178479
He didn't personally file for bankruptcy, just 6/500 of his companies.

>>8180230
Oh yes, multiple accounts got hacked and a bunch of their HODL's are flash crashing

>>8180282
PE means nothing its a meme

>>8180282
Netflix seems absurdly overvalued roght now
But it is taking the entertainment sector by storm and at one point, it will have enough subscriptions to sustain its enormous expenses to create contents

Plus, it is like drugs : the first few doses are free or cheap and once you are hooked, you will be willing to pay higher prices
NFLX is far from being a short and should be bought at every dip

Get in NVCN today it will go up by 15% at least!
Also buy AKER.

Buy the AMRS dip?

WERE GOIN DOWN

Jesus AMD

>>8180371
>tfw contemplating on opening a quarter if a million leveraged short.

>>8180371
I may even speculate that content creation costs can very well come down in the near future

For example, actors in overall are holding less and less bargaining power. The symptoms of this can be seen in the recent slump in the Oscar ceremony viewership or the sex scandals (which means producers have now less to offer per blowjob compared to the past). And you have plenty of people on youtube and such who can compete with them

There is also the rise of CGI. Look at GTA V, nobody gives a fuck about the real actors behind the characters (except Steven Ogg maybe) but the story is still enjoyable. That would be the next stage.

>>8179283
>buying options without checking the IV

>>8180471
Short Squeeze.

no sane person would go long on AMD

>>8180512
Do it faggot

>>8180512
just put in a leveraged long
see you on my private island

>>8180391
CTRV too.

>>8180543
>>8180545
Did you gentle men see that drop?

Do we buy calls on SPY during this dip?

>>8180638

Well fuck. Wiped out my gains from yesterday.

>>8180371
I didn't say it shouldnt be bought, just I was confused why only the 227 number is being memed about and now the 77. Who cares how a company did in the past if they ahve a future earnings projections that can reasonably be trusted?

Hope you guys bought the dip

>>8180667
you would be trading with current intra-day momentum if you did so

>>8180595
Good stock! Buying 2000$ worth of CTRV and NVCN now!

Thanks anon!

>>8180715
Sorry to hear. What did you invest in?

>>8180715

How are you not making money today?

>>8180753
Yeah it was a good call, postion is up 10% in under 30 minutes.

>>8180077
>previous trends predict future returns

Might want to rethink that one champ

ZSAN

For the people that have options on robinhood.. how long did it take for them to review your application?

INPX
INPX
INPX
INPX

>>8180831
Way to take something complex like Netflix stock and PE ratios and dumb it down to a Legal Phrase used by advisors

>>8180774
>>8180793
Because I gambled like an idiot.

>>8180809
nice

>medicinal weed/mining company

Would you?

Buy reversalfag here. Only bought two stocks - JAGX and NSTG. Made modest gains and put about $3.20 in my pocket.

>>8180953
>$3.20

LOL

>>8180953
What is that percentage wise?

>>8180953
Also made good gains on GEN but that wasn't part of the model

>>8180977
1.2%. JAGX was extremely volitile at close yesterday so I only got half of the order in

Anyone else want to buy the JNUG dip with me? When is inflation supposed to kick in?

Should I go Balls deep into CEI?

>>8178953
If only I had more money to invest

>>8181027
>115%

Holy shit
SELL SELL SELL

Vix about to retest 18 soon. Buy UVXY and get a quick 10k in 30 minutes with no hassle.

>>8181011
That’s not bad though. At least your concept is being proven right.

>>8181027

Nice!

long netflix, it is time

LIGA could continue to .02 still very under the radar

>>8178949
>was too scared to actually buy and now up almost 7 percent today

>>8180741
Alr8 m8
Besides, Netflix keeps creating great contents but didn’t care until now to capitalise on it. Like selling goodies, license them for other ventures etc
Anything that has to do with subscription is worth your time in DD

I wouldn’t be so enthusiastic about TSLA (another PE meme stock). But Musk’s story is far from over and all he has to do is announe new models. I can’t wait for him to make a compact car and an electric motorbike/scooter.

>Expected the worst
>Pleasant surprise
What a nice day.
No jinx.

UVXY
V
X
Y

>>8181311
once Jap car companies announce their own electric vehicles Tesla will go to 0 and the Nikkei will double
screen it

>>8181367
until Trump slaps a 50% tarrif on all chink cars to protect American auto manufacturing.

>>8181329
Time to short

>>8181367
Japanese brands don’t have Tesla’s aura

Believe it or not but people view Tesla as premium and a sign that «you made it»kek

awwww FUCK

>>8181367
Nissan Leaf
Honda Fit EV
Mazda working on HCCI gas engines

Maybe Toyota can do something, but they have announced literally nothing concrete of a full EV.
The Chevy Bolt is a great EV car yet it has no marketing stick whatsoever.

>>8181139
>>8181355
First time messing with leverage, pray for my sanity

>>8180768
I’m still too comfy in RHE

>>8179885
What the FUCK is up with AMD?

>You will never experience in buying anaheim electronics stocks

>>8181519
Those cars don’t have charisma. Those cars are bought by those who always want to apologize for being born

Besides Sudoku Fukumahasu design this car to respect Mother Earth ? Who the fuck wants that.

I want a car design by the former Aston Martin art fag and made by a guy who fucks pornstars, send shit into space and sells flamethrowers

>>8181684
Don't do this to me Anon

ok boys whats crashing the djia now

daaamn buy the dollar tree dip boys no joke pure profit from here

>>8181713
I WANT TO FEEL IT ANON
I WANT TO FEEL WHEN ANAHEIM STOCKS (ANEL) GET SKYROCKETING EVERYTIME ZEON ATTACKING FEDERATION

Oooof based netflix recovering at high speeds

Tfw bought Netflix a year ago

Which meme stocks should I buy today? Im up 151% on BPMX and 3% on GCAP from taking advice here

>>8181684
>You'll never do space blow all day while trading space stocks from Von Braun or Granada
>feeling feels you never thought you'd feel

W-what if the real gains were the friends we made in /smg/?

>>8181820
>>8181895
Maybe someday Anons, maybe someday

>>8181955
DONt makeme cry

>>8181895
>You'll never invest in the company that creates the first sanctuary cities on Mars.

>>8181955
Nah, up 4% on my entire portfolio. Besides we're more like acquaintances. Not real, got your back forever, friends

>>8181955
This is what I want to do by making my retarded /smg/ memes

Crude oil DROP

>>8181311
Of course subs are godly, Amazon prime one reason thats so svaluable. Im still learning so i was just curious why people were saying what they are

>>8181733
Who the fuck knows
Markets are retarded and make no sense short term

>>8182049
>You'll never be a space trucker dealing with refugees trying to stow away in your cargo hold a la France

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=facdLL_Vqak

Space trucking sounds neat though desu

>>8182140
Also biotechs
The only things chinks can do is to copy, cheat and enslave other people to reduce costs
But biotechs actually takes intellect and genuine knowledge
The USA surprisingly has a lot of that

someone call the bogs pls, we need a pump

Garbage in, garbage out.

>>8181849
God bless the BPMX shill. Did research on them and AMYRIS and they’re actually amazing companies. No shit.

But yeah what else do I waste my money on? Help anons, I get money today.

so . . . how do u do this stocks market thing ?

>>8181733
seeing as it's completely wiped today's gains, it was either a stop hunt, or an actual reversal of sentiment

not sure of any news that caused it

>>8182305
You buy, I sell
you sell, I buy.

t. Broker

Im buying crude oil I dont give a fuck nigger

>>8181733
BITCOIN

>>8182318
press buy and grab yer nuts

>>8182375
wtf why did the image preview become a galaxy

>>8182413
I Like it

>>8182305

>3300 shares of MYOS

>>8182413
IIRC it's some sort of bug caused by two people making posts at the exact same instance. Someone on another board has had their image of a galaxy's preview switched with uh, "Top Rape." I could be wrong though.

No lunch time check up?

>>8182413
2 people posting images at the exact same time causes this.

>>8182318
Basically faceroll your keyboard.

>>8182512
At 12:30? I eat lunch closer to 2PM.

>>8182413
>>8182487
>>8182514
oh jesus christ I remember the /sp/ guy that tried to post something about sport and it changed it to two anime lesbians kissing. that screencap was golden

>>8177788

INPX today boys, we going to two dollars

>>8182553
Some east coast anon usually post a lunch time check up at noon est

>>8182512

>3-4 pieces of lettuce

literally whats the point

>>8182512
Take a late lunch when my shift ends at 130 so I usually skip lunch check up here. Thinking an Italian sandwich on foccacia and a Miller high life.

Not so hot today but I expected as much. KMI keeps going down so that's frustrating but I feel like it just makes it a more interesting buy. No idea how or if the steel tariffs will impact their new pipeline.

Mother of kek I bought AMD Monday and I didn't think I would see a return. All heil news

>>8182615

Hmmmmmm

Ive been trying to sell covered calls on robinhood for the last 2 days and the orders always place but never fill. What the fuck? Does anyone else have this problem?

All in in TVIX & JNUG let's go flash crash

>>8182703
>eez trying to sell

>>8182703
They're probably not filling because there is no buyer. What are the specifics I can see if I can see it listed.

>>8182584
found it

>>8182703

Yeah I have that problem too since Faggothood still hasn’t granted me options

>>8182482

I’m strapping on the ol’ special needs helmet and hoping for magic, that’s always my strategy

well this Oil long is going well
thanks based EIA

This market is fuckin' wild.

>>8182990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rTJSjSKn0g

>>8182615

Excellent call.

Thank you sir

>>8181733
>guy quits his job
>OH FUCK SELL ITS THE APOCALYPSE
>markets down because some guy quits his job
>OH FUCK OH FUCK
I read recently that there are more people invested now with zero prior experience than ever before. Market is literally a bunch of retards right now. Smart money will exploit that

>>8182615
Mah niguuu

CTRV
T
R
V

>>8182887
I was trying to do a SDRL $0.5 call 3/9 sell, limit price of 0.06

I want off John Melo's wild ride.

hope some day traders are getting these easy ZSAN gains

How do you day trade? Realistically, how much do you make per day?

>>8183566
Have faith, dubslord. And strong hands.

>>8183603
Most people lose money day trading
Like 90%

>>8183603
>suspicious questions

That's it. We're officially in a bear market.

>>8178153
>not taking advantage of tax breaks and putting money into your 401k
>roll your 401k over into a traditional IRA where you can invest in whatever you want
you are the true cuck for paying taxes

>>8183667
no You

Just cashed out of most of my stocks, shill me on some new ones /smg/.

>>8178849
retard. there are massive problems when hodling a 3x etf for longer than a day. enjoy your gain slippage.

>>8183565
Some ones selling them for 3 cents. A couple orders filled today for 2 cents.

>>8178030
>REIT
Why no REITs?

>>8183453
>I read recently that there are more people invested now with zero prior experience than ever before.
shit we're at the top boys. buy bonds

> tfw the returns are strong but you expect stronger

>>8183453
>I read recently that there are more people invested now with zero prior experience than ever before.
people have to start somewhere no?

>>8183761
really, like what? TECL was up over 340% in the last under 2 years part of this bull run, why would you not be in leveraged ETFs during obvious market trends? If we go into a bear run then get into TECS, problem solved. Using these things using overall market trends i cant imagine any way you dont retire within a decade or two no matter where your starting.

>>8183875
pretty sure he is talking about decay fees

>>8183667
Many blue chips are still expected to have good earnings through much of 2018, stocks are still fundamentally strong, but with potential trade tensions and interest rates going up, the broad market is going to get far more volatile.

>>8183927
bear markets also dont happen after a blow off
its more than likely we will go to all time highs on the dow/sp500 before dropping below last corrections point

>>8183918
what do you mean by this?

what does it matter what fees something is charging if we are in teh right market for the fund? im willing to take those fees in exchange for not having to be trading on margin, it seems like a worthwhile tradeoff to me and these things absolutely skyrocket if you are buying and selling intelligently as the market dictates

>>8184030
t. never experienced a flat and/or high vol market

>>8184030
say you have a 3x etf and the market goes down 5% one day and up 5.27% the next day. if you just owned the underlying etf, you'd be slightly up and would have made money. But the 3x etf went down 15% then up 15.81% for a net movement of -1.5%(!!!)

>>8184057
of course i understand how moving up and down kills a leveraged ETF, but we arent yet currently in a chopping people up sideways moving market. if we were then yes im not sitting in a leveraged ETF. Clear bear or bull markets though, whats exactly wrong with them? Gains are more than worth the variance on a daily basis....

>>8184086
>>8184092
Yes this is what I meant I know this, but in clear markets either way this doesn't *really* affect 2x or 3x ETFs. Sideways market sure Im barely wanting to own anything but thats not a leveraged ETF problem thats just a market problem lol

Lift the ask.

Is GCAP going to do a Sun Run tomorrow on earnings?

>>8184116
>we arent in a choppy high volatility market right now

>>8184129
Ask is currently being lifted sir, we expect new ATH by EOD.

>>8184129
Oh shit it's working!

>>8184162
>84162▶
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>>>8184116 (You)
>>we arent in a choppy high volatility market right now
its been like a month man, yeah its getting close to getting out of 3x ETFs but im still in TECL. Im looking at trends at least that long, imagine if you were in 3x over the last decade, the chart looks great. TECL has gone up over 1400% since 2010 man, its worth it as part of your portfolio IMO.

YES!

>>8184198
That's what the XIV guys thought to themselves too.

My discount T buy was a good call so far, cheap dividends! we boomer now.

NO
THE BUYWALL IS CRACKING

>>8184139
No, it might do a VIRT

They became hopeful. Dump it.

Day trading is profitable. Swing trading is definitely not.

As long as you understand day trade = 30 mins, you can make easy and safe money while the market is volatile like it is now.

>>8184292
Your life ends now bog boy

>>8184316
He's a fake. Real bogs are lifting.

>>8184227
XIV has nothign to do with normal leveraged ETFs, trading off volatility is stupid and has nothing to do with real assets like 2x 3x ETFs do

>>8184309
You have that shit backwards.

>>8184240
Holy fuck, glad i got out this morning. This is not looking good, just as i anticipated. The real bloodbath everyone thought was behind us is coming.

>>8184377
>he says just as we recover todays dip

>>8184401
The phonecall that saved equities.

>>8183867
Yes but it doesn’t stop them from making stupid decisions.
It is actually a net win because of more money entering the market, but that brings volatility along with it.

Get ready to make a new thread

>>8184370
you got your life backwards friend. Holding anything longer than a day without the intention of investing is just leaving your money in the hands of dark pools and Illuminati.

Market Makers are mere babies when it comes to manipulating the market.

>>8184457
it also brings in new money

>>8184457
Retail doesn't cause volatility it just exacerbates it. It is still retarded boomers at institutions having kneejerk reactions to Bloomberg headlines who think they are sophisticates for reading financial press.

ZSAN my niggas told yall

>>8184475
that depends, swing trading on the Sp500 is much safer than day trading, because the trend will always be up

>>8184475
>dark pools
spooky name, not a spooky thing at all
>Illuminati
this is the true enemy

>>8183867
I suppose. But we live in a time where you can gain a plethora of knowledge just from your phone. There's investopedia, plenty of YouTube channels, and financial news sites. People don't wanna wait two weeks to learn some of the basics before jumping in.

>>8184524
>trend will always be up

>>8184544
we need new people in the market, it's a zero sum game

Fucking give me options already you lopsided Frankenfaced fuckfurters

>>8184562
Do you even know what "risk premium" is? If not google it. If not then neck yourself.

>>8184564
>it's a zero sum game

>>8184564
>Zero sum game

How embarrassing.

See this post:

>>8184580

>>8184562
Thats right nignog

>>8184524
In this current market Swing trading and Day trading are difficult as fuck. We might not be in a bear market, but the days of the eternal bull are over.

>>8184564
The crypto audience, everyone.

>>8184580
>he thinks he can get paid for taking on risk without taking any risk

>>8184608
>implying this bull market isn't going to continue for another 20 years.

>>8184608
no, the eternal bull is not over, not sure why anyone would think this

Indexes are made specifically to go up forever... it sounds crazy but thats a basic fact. They are made as investments to retire on

>>8184621
>He thinks variance is the same thing as expected value

Oops

>>8184564
I actually like you Big5guy. I have nothing to say regarding your last post. I'm just stating that people who jump straight in are lazy above anything else to include naive and stupid

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>>8184600
>>8184592
you guys must not understand what zero sum game is and how new money feeds the market, without new people to lose their money there would be no money to be made.........

>>8184670
>I'm just stating that people who jump straight in are lazy above anything else to include naive and stupid
we need the naive and stupid... just don't be the naive and stupid

>>8184675
>buy big 5 for $10
>earn $1 dividend every quarter
>5 years later have $20
tell me, who lost money in this scenario?

>>8184711
It comes out of retained earnings.. not sure what you are getting at, im looking at the trading aspect of it, people are talking about volatility due to new traders.. we need new traders.. new traders means new money..... that is the bottom line.. if we didn't need new money then there wouldn't be brokers trying to get people to get involved in the market...

>>8184813
>buy a company at a $1,000,000 market cap
>company does well and adds $1,000,000 to its balance sheet
your shares have fundamentally gained value. it doesn't matter if there are no other buyers, you can just liquidate to get your $2,000,000.

>>8184878
>it doesn't matter if there are no other buyers, you can just liquidate to get your $2,000,000.
lol no

you are an idiot.

>>8184925
nice argument

>>8184934
lets say stock is trading at $1 and has O/S count of 1,000,000 shares. The companies market cap is at $1,000,000. The value of the company though is $2,000,000 how in the fuck are you going to liquidate $2,000,000 dollars when the sp is sitting at $1 as well as the bid??

please think about what you are saying...